Minamoto WORTH IT in Rise of Kingdoms? BEST Talents & Pairs

[@OmniarchOfficial]

What do YOU think of Minamoto in 2024? Did you get him? 🤔🤔 Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! :)

[@richiearagonjr2981]

Minamoto is the motha Fckn man!

[@roksenpai]

I still use mina every time I make a new start and he's still impressive, even in kvk2 he's still wow, So i don't think Lilith wants people to stop buying him 😂

[@GolfNation_OnTop]

Still use him in SoC 😂

[@Bblackout1]

Im surprised no one talks about bastion quests or SOC skills whenever Mina is brought up

[@JamesRoosevelt-kj6ub]

THIS IS EXCACTLY WHAT I NEED WOOOOOOOOOOOO THANKS SO MUCH

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Glad to help! :)

[@alexpetry9374]

I'm using Mina/Wiliam, and he swarms as soon as he appears on the field. I know Huo is much better but I don't think about spending my GH on Huo because I know he will be swarmed instantly too. Inf is always the last to be focus, so In fact I prefer the enemy to focus on Mina first and let my Zug/Her and Nev/Joan do the kps

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Smart! Use all T4 if you want a cheaper hospital bill then :)

[@janihaavisto79]

Yep, use t5 only if you're a whale or got better primary commander

[@AloneinNewYork]

@@janihaavisto79or for defending forts ,flags and garrisons of city players

[@cmlcml415]

Legendary Omniarch with Integration, Versatility, Mobility talent tree 😏

[@OmniarchOfficial]

LMAO wooow those are fighting words bro 😤😤

[@MimiNekoNya]

I really wish ROK would add more Japanese commanders. Again, that's just my opinion but I would love to see more.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Honestly me too! Oda Nobunaga or Hattori Hanzo are easy shoe-ins that people would love

[@Seoulmoonrhee]

Nah, we need more Chinese Commanders, there's barely any!

[@Flattithefish]

@@muratahimekopyroarchon3617*need Mongolian commanders

[@sabextsulukidze4734]

Bro Just check Georgia’s history

[@bradgilbert6718]

No, they need North American commanders to truly capture that audience. But, Lilith, being CCP-bound, will likely never admit that America has heroes.

[@whoareyou-xb5xf]

Minamoto is really worth it if you spend. At 50$ less you can have him 5511 that you cant do with other commander if you spend that little. You can pair him with Sun tzu, aethel, baibars even ysg. Hes a great comm in early game to make your transistion easy for late game. Lots of you says dont invest on this and that but what do you want new kingdom players do? Run with epic till they get into soc? Thats messed up suggestion. I would say if you can buy mina to 5511 go for it, better if you can expertise, Run him with aethel, baibars/beli or Sun tzu till kvk 2. Save up heads for Nevsky-Joan but still run mina with aethel as 2nd march. After 5515 nevsky and 5115 joan, go for diff troop type pair like scipio-lc, hermann prime-zl, etc. PS: there will be different meta depends on how many days you are playing now coz Lilith is releasing new heroes everytime. So if you dont have anything to invest early game your account will still be shit in late game.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Agreed 100%

[@GolfNation_OnTop]

I’m in SoC and run my Mina with Nevsky, both expertised and double relic for Mina, I must say works well!

[@janihaavisto79]

When i started rok i was a true f2p. And so never had him in any of my account's at first. However after awhile i did buy him on my main and re-start account. Did not max him obviously at that stage, but bought enough to get it to 5551 on main and 5511 in re-start(which is in kvk1 currently)

[@atanasargirov6292]

Тhank you Omniarch for this great video . Personally I bought Minamoto , used him in early kvks and saved enough gold heads for SOC commanders. Once I reached KVK3 I got my hands on Nevsky and directly expertised him. I am currently using my Nevsky + double relic MInamoto and keeping in mind that I am still T4 fighting many whales on the field , this pairing is doing good for me. I have even decided to start my inf pairing Scipio + Liu and skip Joan for now because I just don't want to bench my Mina on which I have spent money.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Makes sense! Yeah he's a great choice for saving sculptures in the early game for sure

[@DominickPianoWizardry]

I think the mugs idea is really cool!!

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! Glad you think so :)

[@DoubleAC1]

What skills do you put on the Cao Cao secondary? Thank you so much.

[@adhibuwana1396]

Minamoto was my first love when I started playing this game, so I definitely made him expertise. But now I haven't found the right pairing for him so that he can be relied on in open battles, so for the time being I'm using for barbarians only.

[@kpcofvs911]

Wow, for a long time player of Rise of Kingdoms, we love ROK merch

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thanks for the feedback! :)

[@xiomaramena3811]

Hey omni. What aborto a 5111 minamoto. Is it a good investment? Or does it has to be a 5511 in other to use in the open field?

[@greenisop7413]

He gets marginally better at 5511 versus 5111 and the cost difference is only like 30-40$

[@richiearagonjr2981]

Yooo the big homie, just dropping a comment for some support

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! 😁 I really appreciate that man!

[@BasuSSJ]

Hello, I'm kinda new player, this is my first experience with RoK (180 days). I am currently at VIP15 level (close to VIP16), I wanted to ask you which VIP chests are worth buying? I can't find a proper video anywhere on YT that would help with this decision. Currently I know that Minamoto is very helpful in KvK1&2, that Hanibal is useless, but what next?

[@HyperBloom_]

Im not omni but i can tell that you dont realy need to buy anything...Or maybe the ones that gives you books of covenant, if you didnt max the castle)) but its still worthless

[@dedw8farmer]

I also had a hard time benching my expertise Mina, given the money I invested in for him. I now run Nevski/William & Huo/Joan for the AoE benefit. But if you didn't have a 5515 Joan or 5551 William, Mina is a great secondary to either Nevski or Huo

[@dawittikuye307]

What if I have purchased him for a dollar and I don't want to not spend anymore money than I already have , would he still be worth it to invest time into?

[@edwinng7313]

I used Minamoto for peacekeeping, as in my kingdom, the alliances preparing for kvk instead of civil war.

[@alerion9452]

Nice video. Whats the best civilization for mina? I think I failed as I started with ottoman

[@goddessofidk4394]

We must get an Austrian painter as a commander

[@Economican]

I have mina expertise and should I invest one cav commander on kvk 3 to pair with him and then focus on infa and arch or should I get 2 new cav commander?

[@Eden_378]

Hey Omniarch which is the best commander in 2024 for city defense in KvK 1?

[@Cuzzo317]

Martel

[@valar8949]

Why not talk about Mina/YSG in kvk1/2 and a possible transition into arch after kvk1 using the investment in ysg to pair him with aethel or others as arch. Since its the meta now to play arch in kvk3+

[@Veneficusx]

Hi Omniarch! In your opinion, which is better: Minamoto or Saladin for SOC?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Ooooo that's hard tbh... neither are particularly good. Minamoto deals more damage for sure but saladin is tanky with his 3rd skill so it depends on what you want.

[@arcana722]

early game mina max ysg max is the best so if u only gonna run 1 march u can use that i personally think sun tzu with max ysg is better if ur mina is 5511 since they both got huge aoe damage plus skill damage buffs but cav march speed is much better so u can chase thoose low hp marches for free kp

[@d00msday83]

My first wheel is about to come around how much should i spin cause I heard Richard isint that good

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I would get his first skill to 5 and then stop there. No point in investing more because like you said, he's not very good

[@SawyerFreeman]

I never see any recommendations for Pelagius. I’m only a few weeks in to playing but I feel like his healing factor would be really beneficial for minamoto no? Also, crossing my fingers for a musashi infantry commander soon 🤞🏻

[@Paul-uv6mb]

I dont have a lot money just a classic worker from south europe but i will maxed him for kvk 1 and kvk 2,for kvk 3 of i Will continue with cslvary main probably i will used him second..

[@spacy4578]

would rather give $200 to charity

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Respect 🫡

[@robertdunsby6879]

Omni, great video bro... one thing I would add to this would be; Commanders are coming and going always.. game needs money always, if you're a player in kvk 2 >> mino is amazing.. come kvk 2+ he falls... but in soc he is usable .. concentrate on gear and armenents

[@michaellucas8426]

Do the debuffs stack though? Like if I debuff with Moneymotto can Bela P’s debuff also take effect?

[@johnpoolejr]

excellent content once again Omni! Some potential future content I'd like to see is addressing the need for multiple accounts simply for farming to be relevant in KvK's. Having several farms, I too, suffer from time consumption doing all the 'main account' things with these...also what game almost demands so many accounts just to have enough RSS to fight through KL with tough opponents, its just ridiculous. Why not have 10+ farming marches with level 10+ nodes to collect from. Lilith almost drives us to RSS sellers with this current system. Also why be limited to 5m assist of RSS to main accounts? When transferring hundreds of millions this takes forfreakingever and is a complete waste of time imo. Just some thoughts of common frustrations with RoK and trying to improve to keep folks around. Lastly...where's our update on the graphics Lilith! 2D is so ancient when comparing to modern up to date gaming...say something Lilith, anything ffs! Thanks again amigo, love your channels and content.

[@ITZY.Staedt]

Imagine if Moneymoto got another tier on his relic(like buff to his active skill) 😆

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Omg that'd be amazing lol I'd love that

[@fatbardh2]

based on the tier 3 relics they have shown to us, it will simply be the same stats but more, in case of mina, it will probably be 35 defense, 40 attack

[@jimibones178]

I wrecked people with Mina at kvk1. The only other march I had that compared was CM/YSG. I also had t5 and legendary gear though

[@cacotnk]

Guys, please help me. I have a question. When it comes to the equipments it will only be considered the primary comander right? The skills of the secondary commander are considered?

[@formersimp-v9g]

is 5-5-1-1 minamoto better than 5-1-1-5? obviously requires a lot of luck to get 5-1-1-5, but assuming it's possible, isn't the 4th skill's buff to all damage (even if only a % chance) better than a buff to attack and march speed?

[@gunit3230]

why everytime i upgrade i need to speend more ?? so 5 5 1 1 is now more expensive?

[@LordFrey19]

Phyrrus Guide? Love the vids!

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! 😁 one day 🙏🙏

[@gunit3230]

why when i skill something its go up now? he is not that cheap anymore?

[@cameronholmes2002]

150 likes on 2 hours? My boy is GROWING

[@bubblebaath7840]

My soc march is 5511 nev and 5521 mina with museum buff and it gives much better trades than nev with 5222 joan

[@robinvdb05]

What about a 5-2-1-1 Mina for $11, is that also worth it?

[@theirregularadventurers]

i had my mina 5411. it was decent, , didn't have a great pair him and early t4 is not helping much but still one of the best commanders to play with kvk1-2. 5211 is going to be a bit weaker, but i guess still better than most 5211 combo pair. problem is that his single target active skill is a bit underwhelming in group fights. one of the best pairs is mina with ysg, to buff that skill damage even further and he really needs the aoe skill from ysg. of course best case is to have ysg expertised, but it's going to be impossible to do that in time as f2p player or low budget spender that can't afford to invest more than 5211 mina. if you have the budget 20-25 more $ to get him to arund a 5511 that would be best value for mina and in my opinion there is no need to spend further into him. try him with secondary baibarbs expertiesed if your caocao is weak, and best case from my perspective is to pair him with ysg (expertised best) but even 5111 is good. you get that 1400 aoe skill damage (15%reduction per extra target it's true but still good early game) to up to 5 targets in a fan shape in front of you and also 20% skill damage increase just by unlocking his 4th skill. that's already over the big skill damage that both minamoto and ysg has. it works. now is it going to be the best? probably not, but that's your mina super budget build. otherwise you can just skip mina all together, and go for something else

[@robinvdb05]

All right bro thanks

[@sabextsulukidze4734]

i look forward to see more Georgian Commanders also, just check their history, if you agree with me please reply

[@luckycsupreme4993]

I'd buy one 🤣 those mugs are awesome 👌

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thanks for the feedback! :)

[@XolNico]

I'm telling you, wait till he gets a 3rd museum buff

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I hope it's good!

[@mburg10]

​@@OmniarchOfficialIt will be as Mina costs$$$$😂😂

[@XolNico]

@OmniarchOfficial I think he might be realy good in kvk3

[@VolidHimself]

hu joan of ark is a epic commander right?

[@ImSoCoolNya]

I just wonder if minamoto is still usable in kvk 2???

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yes definitely!

[@ImSoCoolNya]

@@OmniarchOfficial thanks i can breathe easily now 😁

[@jimibones178]

i thought skill tree of secondary didnt have any effect?

[@Seoulmoonrhee]

Technically speaking, would Minamoto be cheaper to max than Aethelfled?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

No, Aethelflaed is free 100% basically

[@Seoulmoonrhee]

@OmniarchOfficial I am proudly F2P, but in terms of time could we make a case for Mina??

[@vickmichel5770]

What about joan/mina?

[@1093김민정]

although im in the endgame im still excited to watch this video :)

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Thank you! :) He's still great for PvE in end game

[@glatteben]

Wheres the hannibal guide?👀

[@Kickerofgrams]

The question is, Huo or Nevsky? Lol

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Nevsky!

[@plusROK]

I think I need to restart Rok because I got zeroed😢

[@OmniarchOfficial]

No need to restart! All you lose are resources and troops and you can get those back over time :)

[@xiomaramena3811]

I wish i had acces to this video before 😢

[@ant5454]

I still use minamoto 😅😂 only cause he's double relic tho

[@johnlandrigan6578]

Minimoto is not worth any money. He used to be ok with his museum buff. But now that u are limited to museum purchases he is nowhere close to buying. His single target limit makes him a barb fort expert. Just pass on this guy. If u are buying anyway focus on purchases that actually help u late game.

[@flybone100]

MONEYMOTO!! Leave the mug, take the Cafe Bustelo.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Always bustelo! Thanks for the feedback 😎

[@vasilisnatsos815]

Omni i play for 8 months...I watched many of yours vids and Chi's to learn some things and avoid mistakes in game..with that being said you are out of content bro...not only you everyone making vids about ROK... It's like is it Mina worth it every couple months...mistakes to avoid every couple months...best investments every couple months..best f2p...get Ethel cause It's free to exp.. it's like watching the same vid over and over again... it's a circle and it's mostly the developers to blame cause game goes a circle and they should consider things and new events to add...for now its a repeating circle...

[@d0sxxgaming94]

We need American commanders! Yeeee haaaa America!!

[@johnpoolejr]

merch is cool, I'd say run with it but find a larger demographic...I mean at one point in time a 'Pet Rock' turned some folks into millionaires

[@mrBrixW]

Nah hes not worth anymore, invest only if you really really want a very good commander for early game

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah he's great early game!

[@whoareyou-xb5xf]

Minamoto is really worth it if you can spend. At 50$ less you can have him 5511 that you cant do wito other commander if you spend that little. You can pair him with Sun tzu, aethel, baibars even ysg. Great comms in early game to make your transistion easy for late game. Lots of you says dont invest on this and that but what do you want new kingdom players do? Run with epic till they get into soc? Thats messed up suggestion. I would say if you can buy mina to 5511 go for it, better if you can expertise, Run him with aethel, baibars/beli or Sun tzu till kvk 2. Save up heads for Nevsky-Joan but still run mina with aethel as 2nd. After 5515 nevsky and 5115 joan, go for diff troop type pair like scipio-lc, hermann prime-zl, etc. PS: there will be different meta depends on how many days you are playing now coz Lilith is releasing new heroes everytime. So if you dont have anything to invest early game your account will still be shit in late game.

[@theirregularadventurers]

@@whoareyou-xb5xf not sure if it is worth the extra investment if you are gonna run it with aethel... you get very good results pairing aethel with cc and they get almost all the time the extra 20% damage from cc's marchspeed reduction on her expertised skill that bsically covers up for the mina aditional single target aditional damage, plus cc's small heal is helpful as well. personally i'd rather use mina with ysg (especially if ysg is expertised but decent even as a 5111 because you get the 20% skill damage bonus only by unlocking his 4th skill and that applies to both mina and ysg's high skill damage)

[@whoareyou-xb5xf]

@@theirregularadventurers but the question is how much would it cost you to get a good cc? Cc needs to be 5151 to be decent and for sure its not below $50 to achieve that. Yes, cc can get from keys but needs you to be extremely lucky. Cc also on daily chests and wheel but it would cost you more then you wont even use them in the future.

[@theirregularadventurers]

@@whoareyou-xb5xf a 5111 cc i meant might actually be as effective with aethel expertised as a mina 5511. why? both their skills are 1400 single target. the additional damage on mina's on a 50% chance on average is basically only around 35% extra on his lone skill damage, while cc triggering aethle's expertised skill that's 20% all damage, he has 10% att only unlocking his 3rd skill that puts him only at a difference at 10% attack to a mina 5511, not to mention his 40% attack reduction on his active skill. ten there is also the rage generation engine on his 4th skill 50rage + healing 500 on chance it's arguably more powerful and might keep him in the battle more than mina's 10% to deal few extra damage. might not be better still but based on my experience it really does great with Ethel early game. yes it is a chance to get him on chests, and you might be totally unlucky but in reality it costs 50 statues to get him to 5111. and that's let's face it not hard to get even if you have to put few statues in no matter that you won't use him after kvk2. sure if you have 35$ to get a mina to a 5511, do it, but what i mean is that it's not too much worth investing any dollar just to pair him with aethel.

[@YMSM-f1q]

꿀잼

[@OmniarchOfficial]

😎😎

[@alfredvillarica784]

200€ just to make barbforts 😭

[@sssoouunndd]

First!

[@plusROK]

Oh no you don’t

[@OmniarchOfficial]

LMAO LETS GOOO looks like you and @plus1472 were tied

[@ArchShadOw48]

Not gonna lie I've seen expertised minas and I've beaten expertised minas. Honestly I have never needed him passed 5511. Unless he becomes META I don't think he's worth $200 😅

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Agreed 5511 is amazing value

[@Hydrobladegiyuu]

F2P..... 😥😥

[@ProKillerNoah]

i got him for 1 euro

[@egg1913]

I hate how he pronounces Minamoto

[@plusROK]

First

[@sssoouunndd]

Not today!

[@sssoouunndd]

i won, i had the high ground!

[@plusROK]

@@sssoouunnddWho is at bottom for the latest comment wins

[@OmniarchOfficial]

LETS GOOOOO! Tbh it looks like you and @sssoouunndd were basically tied LOL

[@plusROK]

Bruh

[@lightning2796]

You have caught the same commander again. He is the old commander and videos are being made on him again and again. Bring something new.🙈🤦

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Please understand that new players join the game and want updated content for KVK 1 commanders ;) It's not all about us end game players