State of Garrisons in Rise of Kingdoms Summer 2024: Top Summer Garrisons for Objective Defense

[@commodoreboris]

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[@istenmeyen_tuy]

Which one is better? Gorgo hera or jan zizka hera or elanor hera? İ am playing mix. 2 troops cavalary 2 troops infantary 1 troop archer.

[@commodoreboris]

In order I would say Gorgo Hera then Eleanor Hera then Jan Hera, but Gorgo and Eleanor are fairly close trade quality wise so if you are significantly better in cavs you can roll with Eleanor and still get good trades 🙂, Hera is just really solid overall with that 30% normal damage reduction 🙂

[@derburgerr7416]

great vid. I garrisoned a lot with dido zhuge and i have to say that thing obliterates any rally XD. only problem is running out of archers

[@commodoreboris]

Yeah it almost feels like mutually assured destruction, you deal a lot of damage but take a lot of it as well 😅. It's definitely still a solid option even though she's the oldest of the meta commanders 🙂

[@Reg101st]

Using a Theodora + YSS any feedback appreciate?

[@commodoreboris]

Theo/YSS was not included here as it is just not very good in the current meta, meta has come a long way so they've fallen very behind as a pair. I would use Theo/YSS only as a city defense if you don't have Hera or Lapu or in extreme emergencies where you have no other garrisons available for objectives, it breaks my heart to say that, believe me, but just not as strong as they once were and it shows 😅

[@johnlandrigan6578]

very nice clear short video without a 5 minute ad for another game

[@commodoreboris]

Glad you enjoyed it! I'll take credit for the short part but I have no control over the ads part 😂😂

[@JM-jc8ew]

During our KVK, Zeno+Gorgo is only good on paper against Ashurbanipal, and is not that strong unless you swarm/counter rally to get those debuff, Gorgo+Constatine - maintains that attack debuff and damage mitigation.

[@commodoreboris]

That's interesting, even then I wonder if it still warrants Constantine being built now just because of the sheer gold head investment or if its only for those who have them built already. If you have it, sure it's terrific, but if not, it almost feels like you're better off with Zeno, or saving, or with Hera even, if not for today then for months in the future, it's a weird situation for sure in the infantry side 😅

[@JM-jc8ew]

@@commodoreboris don't invest in both, but rather go with Hera (and use full infantry Gorgo+Hera) Constantine also got a 2-star museum buff and it's still meta in both field and garrison I'm personally running Expertised Constantine+Alex on the field and it's winning against metapairs if you really want, you can spend the daily bundle on constantine, but I will wait in case next infantry season if Guan/Leonidas/Pakal/Harald gets museum

[@commodoreboris]

Full infantry with Gorgo Hera is interesting, so ditch the normal damage reduction of 3 troops for hera with hold the line on Gorgo, interesting conceptually but hinges on accurate reinforcement, either way it works 🙂, daily chest builds are rough because you almost have to slow build and then you're stuck with a half built commander as the heads trickle in, which is tough for anything you plan on throwing in garrison 😅

[@miroslavschubert8439]

I need someone who will try Nevsky/Eleanor :DD, it shouldnt be as bad combo for garrisons imo, and in ARK you can use your best equip on Nevsky for both rally and garrison if it works

[@commodoreboris]

It should work along the avenue of Jan Nevsky but with less swarm resist and more 1v1 damage, you'd probably want Eleanor primary but it's definitely an option, but with the stacked mixed unit and cav garrison roster its probably not super long term. If you do decide to run Eleanor nevsky, just make sure no infantry or archers slip into that defense 🙂

[@susanxia]

Thanks for the video! For a city garrison which is mixed, would you recommend Eleanor/Hera or Jan/Hera?

[@commodoreboris]

Thanks for the support and Great question! Both would work, Eleanor would probably be the better option but if you already have Jan maxed and don't plan on building Eleanor you probably don't need to build her for city defense only 🙂, but if you're already working on garrisons or starting from scratch Eleanor will have the longer shelf life in theory so is the better option 🙂

[@xxdiekeksxx795]

Really helpful thanks for the video. But I would like so see some of the skills from the commanders too not every skill in detail just quick summary and click trough them

[@commodoreboris]

Glad you enjoyed it! If you're looking for the commanders skills reviewed slill by skill I usually focus on that in detail for each commanders review video on the channel, so when I go over the meta I try to gloss over that unless there's a specific benefit or drawback of a pair based on a skill (like Dido and Hera conflicting on troop type requirements). But I'd be happy to expand a little more in detail in the future as well 🙂

[@samuelmay7716]

I’m trying to build a city garrison but I don’t know what garrison commanders to invest in. I wanted to max dido and pair her with ysg or ZL but I have very mixed troops in my city. What garrison commander would be my best bet to invest in??

[@commodoreboris]

Awesome question! Archers definitely have it rough because of the archer only type defense that's meta for them. If you are absolutely committed to building a city defense, you can use Dido, but it should be with Hera, since his normal damage reduction offsets the losses Dido gets. It's not the best pairing in the world, but it's the best for archer mixed Defenses and hera gives some nice boosts for city defense. That pair also does solid in objective defense which is a nice bonus 🙂.

[@samuelmay7716]

@@commodoreborisI also have a 5551 YSS. Would a max dido work with a non maxed YSS? Or would Hera be the better option even if it takes longer to max?

[@commodoreboris]

I guess it depends, Hera is the better option but if your YSS is already 5551 it frees up those sculptures for other things, is this for city defense against a rally or more for shadow legion use? For Shadow legion- that's 100% fine, will do work and get you to the end fairly easily. For city defense- it's up to you, if you get rallied in kvk chances aren't great for you to come out okay in either case, so the best policy is to avoid getting rallied in either case 😅. If you also have potential to help defend objectives I'd go hera but if not YSS will do okay just suboptimal especially against heavy swarm and new rally

[@samuelmay7716]

@@commodoreborismy main goal was to be able to random teleport in kvk at the start of each zones without the fear of not having at least even a decent garrison if I get swarmed.

[@commodoreboris]

Okay if swarm is your worry, I'd say Dido YSS would do a good enough job, so long as you are attentive to your surroundings and don't get locked with imprison, but at that point no pair will really help much 😅, best to save the heads and invest elsewhere I'd say 🙂

[@danielpanps]

I currently have Hera Full, and I would like to create a duo for CITY defense, what would be the best option? I have Lapulapu, Jan Ziska, jadwiga and Eleonor (are not full)

[@commodoreboris]

For city defense exclusively, lapu is the best option, but you'd need leadership gear to make it truly shine. If you have good cav gear Jan Hera is crazy solid as an option too that also works as an objective defense 🙂, Eleanor is good too if you want dual value in objective defense as well 🙂

[@danielpanps]

@@commodoreboris Thanks friend, I have a set Full cavalry specialization, so I'll opt for janzika. My year trim equipment is specialized.

[@commodoreboris]

Perfect sounds good, glad to help 🙂

[@dexo5905]

I am in an open MGE at the moment and I will place Top 10 it seems. I am only 40m power but i want to build my Garrisson for the long run. Options are: Eleanor, Justinian, Jan, Jadwiga, Bertrand, Chandragupta, Attila, GKhan. I would like to go for Jan. I cant really tell if Eleanor would be better for me or Jadwiga. I know they are all pretty good but i feel like Jan is so cool. Any help?

[@commodoreboris]

Of the 3 you mentioned Jan and Eleanor are the 2 best. I personally prefer Jan for defense, and Eleanor will do well with Jan as well if you end up building more into garrisons later on, Jan is a good choice, good talents that at a minimum will make him great for shadow legion even if he falls out of the meta, Eleanor will probably be Meta for longer but even if next cav gen is garrisons that's 4 months away before a potential threat to Jan. So if you prefer Jan, I'd go with him. Jan with Eleanor is incredibly solid, Jan Nevsky is good as well and Jan Hera is still good too 🙂. I would avoid Jadwiga though, as she has just fallen off significantly in the current meta

[@dexo5905]

@@commodoreboris i will go for Jan. He is just so cool. Obviously im building my open field and im way behind in SOC. Does not matter. Its for the fun right? So i will build him later. I wont have a chance in MGE in the future i suppose so now i get him and im happy. Maybe i get a hold of eleanor one day too. My nevsky will do well tho.

[@commodoreboris]

Exactly, ultimately it's for your enjoyment so keep that in mind as well, just take your time and you'll get there 🙂, saving heads doesn't hurt either if you're ever unsure 🙂, Nevsky is crazy versatile, garrisons, field, rallies, he does it all 😅

[@dexo5905]

@@commodoreboris im trying to push 5115 joan at the moment. So it will take time for me to push Jan. But im very very happy to be able to get him. Have a good day!

[@commodoreboris]

Absolutely a good pick too 🙂, happy to help and have a good day too! 🙂

[@TheVantaLord69]

What about scipio/hera or hera/zhuge for city defence, a few people swear by these combos for their cities

[@commodoreboris]

Anything with hera will naturally do very well since he has mixed unit bonuses and increased abilities in city defense, so for the likes of shadow legion either of those could work, but both are fairly heavy on field specific skills, so it might be a dangerous option there if you are getting rallied by an enemy. Generally speaking, it's better than no city defense and better if all you need to worry about is swarming but versus a traditional rally it won't do as well as a regular garrison pair 🙂

[@FlylyfeMC]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Jan/hera. I didn't realize eleanor had entered meta, she seemed like a weaker/pass only garrison. Lapulapu is very much a whale luxury for a city defense, I wouldn't invest in him at

[@commodoreboris]

Jan/Hera is another one that is super solid, one of my favorite mixed Defenses, and a more traditional option that I would use for city defense (and still do), Eleanor is more field reliant is what I'd say, the more field control or presence in general you have, the better, what really hurts her ultimately is poor talent tree with the defense tree, but she is surprisingly pretty good versus what was expected, had a couple of major defensive runs with her in flags during KvK fighting on both sides so she's definitely not a pushover by any means 🙂 Lapu is.... interesting, for objectives he is a little fragile versus swarm but has great damage output, I feel like he's a victim of the swarm meta more than outright weak, just a ton of swarm out there right now making it hard to not run anti swarm garrisons 😅

[@FeBreezeRok]

Dido/Zhuge is easily the best city garrison. Especially if your enemy and your allies are fighting right next to your city, such good AOE

[@FeBreezeRok]

Best city garrison for archer

[@commodoreboris]

Yeah it's a great archer option, the only thing you lose out on is normal damage reduction from Dido and some skill damage from Liang, but sheer numbers in city defense will cover that shortfall well I'd say 🙂

[@DDKKAY]

No , the AOE of Lapu Lapu is also 2000 , for 5 targets . So Lapu/Hera is best .

[@commodoreboris]

Yeah as a mixed city defense (as long as you have the leadership gear) lapu hera is the best since both have city defense specific boosts to their skills, the downside of the pair there is to maximize potential you need the leadership gear as well, but as far as archers in city defense Dido Liang does do a nice chunk of damage at the cost of not really having to divert off of the archer build path much if at all 🙂

[@NordicArrow]

I use elenor ysg for my cavalry work well

[@commodoreboris]

That sounds like it could work with the skill damage boost. I definitely love YSG 4 for Auxiliary Skills at a minimum for that reason for Siege of Orleans 🙂

[@batuhanbilgi2644]

Great vid but what about Gorgo\Yss?

[@commodoreboris]

Good question! With Gorgo/YSS it just doesn't translate as well as Gorgo Hera so you're just better off using that. The only situation where you would use Gorgo YSS is if you're still building Hera in most cases. That 30% normal damage reduction for Hera is massive, especially right now with the release of scipio aemilianus, it negates essentially 30% of his damage output which is totally massive. YSS can be used in certain situations, mostly in ark for second and third defenses, but most of the time you're just better off rolling with Hera

[@batuhanbilgi2644]

@@commodoreboris Thanks for your answer, but I don't have a Hera yet so does it make sense to develop YSS or would it be a waste of time?

[@commodoreboris]

No problem! If you have YSS expertised already you can use him with Gorgo, but if not it's just generally worth waiting if you can manage to, if you use sculptures on YSS you can run the risk of putting yourself behind on future releases. Luckily Hera is on Leadership MGE so a much less competitive MGE overall. In the meantime Constantine or Zenobia works well, or Liu Che in a pinch if you have him expertised already as well

[@viettoanle9831]

Great content ty so much!

[@commodoreboris]

Glad you enjoyed the content! 🙂, glad you found it helpful 🙂

[@robb7802]

super amazing video

[@commodoreboris]

Glad you enjoyed it! Happy to be able to cover garrison meta right now 🙂

[@ulisesfabian3217]

What about Jan Zizka / Hera?

[@commodoreboris]

Jan/Hera wasn't mentioned here, but he's a slightly worse version of Eleanor Hera, good mixed unit wise, slightly better talent tree but just weaker 1v1. I still use Jan Hera when I expect heavy swarm, as he does do pretty well against normal damage and swarm though, just no longer the top dog, as much as I'd like him to be 🙁

[@ulisesfabian3217]

@@commodoreboris thank you 🙏🏽

[@commodoreboris]

Absolutely! Happy to help 🙂

[@BrunoSantos-xg7fv]

Eleanor/Hera

[@commodoreboris]

I very much like that pairing in general, great survivability, flexibility, the only real downside I see in the pair is mediocre talent selection, but that hera shield and Eleanor's crazy single target damage with her active skill reuse are no joke 😅, very steady and low stress as far as garrisons are concerned 🙂

[@AndrewLloyd-sp4fk]

What about Zeno + YSS?

[@commodoreboris]

It's old school, not terrible, but just doesn't scale as strongly as Zeno Hera or Gorgo Zeno or Gorgo Hera, as a city defense for shadow legion and whatnot it would be alright but the trades are rough in objective defense unfortunately 🙁

[@AndrewLloyd-sp4fk]

Ok, thanks 👍

[@commodoreboris]

Absolutely! Happy to help 🙂

[@drew4018]

What about YSS/Hera?

[@commodoreboris]

Great question! Hera/YSS is a solid option but more so for when you already have YSS built. If you're building from scratch it's probably a safer investment to go Lapu or one of the main unit Defenses (Eleanor, Gorgo, Dido) since the shelf life will be much greater. But if you already have YSS it's a solid option 🙂

[@drew4018]

@@commodoreboris you mean gorgo is much better than yss? I have gorgo.

[@commodoreboris]

I mean Gorgo Hera is better than Hera YSS, but that's only if they are also all expertised 🙂

[@drew4018]

@@commodoreboris thanks my friend for the info ❤️

[@commodoreboris]

Absolutely! Happy to help 🙂