Mind-Blowing 😱 Spiritual Beliefs that Will Shock You! LDS McKinney Temple Public Meeting (Audio)

The Fairview, TX Planning & Zoning held a meeting on Thursday, May 9th, 2024 to hear public comment regarding the proposed LDS McKinney, TX temple. There is controversy surround the temple because at 213 ft. tall, it far exceeds the current zoning codes in the residential area they are trying to build it in.
During the last month, the LDS church had sent out letters to members in the area encouraging them to email city officials to show support for the temple. They were told to emphasize that the height of the temple steeple was the most important part of their religious worship in the temple.
This is a legal workaround to claim religious exemption because the steeple height is integral to the LDS right to worship. The height of the temple steeple has never been known as a central focus of LDS religious worship. This clip for the Fairview community meeting shows all of this in action! And I just have to say, "Don't mess with Texas!"
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[@topbrent]

That same reasoning is what drives fundamentalism...and the terrible deeds that often accompany LDS fundamentalism.

[@mormonishpodcast1036]

Agreed

[@kerkyra4eva]

As an active member... the lies that are being told by members is disgusting

[@CandlewickLibrary]

Amazing how fast members think the church has always believed things based on what they are told now

[@IAmJustOneMom]

She does not even realize she is lying. Steeple height is irrelevant to JC. So just because you feel JC tells you to want something, it is okay to threaten others until you get your way?

[@elizabethrehm470]

That is the fattest line of BS I have ever heard. The leadership has no problem making their followers sound and look like fools. I hope someone took a picture of the Meridian temple, or the Hawaii temple, or the Paris temple or a few others--no spires.

[@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua]

Yes, also Cardston Temple, Mesa Temple never had spires.

[@dalesnow1761]

This isn’t BS it’s next level hog effluent. If the height of the steeple makes the temple more valid then I want a refund or a do over since there were no steeples on the temples I went through or got married in. Wow just wow!!

[@sheliabryant3997]

​@@dalesnow1761 LOVE "hog effluent"! 🌈🌈🌈🌈

[@robbiefl58]

@@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua Nor does the Laie Hawaii Temple. And, in my opinion, those three temples are the most beautiful architecturally.

[@aredesuyo]

I remember when I might have actually kind of agreed with her, and that makes the personal facepalming and cringing even stronger.

[@eclipse-sh1qmZ3mOtcua]

True Believer Mormons (TBMs) always think they're special.

[@yijumiller5659]

This is result of following the “prophet” not Jesus. Jesus teach to love thy neighbors and treat others as you would like to be treated. This is bullying your neighbors

[@funkyfreshtx]

yeah jesus wants us to follow him and ramrod this steeple through because it’s so damn important to mormonism so screw all the neighbors. choose jesus instead of being good neighbors!! anybody want to get baptized?

[@funkyfreshtx]

Isn’t the whole point of the Temple the things that are done inside the temple and not how tall is steeple is 🤦‍♂️

[@Bazcole93]

Not anymore

[@funkyfreshtx]

@@Bazcole93 constant changing doctrine in mormon jesus’s never changing doctrine

[@eliza619]

And mormons wonder why they were exterminated out of Missouri and expelled from Nauvoo. Well here you have it. This was why.

[@sheliabryant3997]

@eliza. X 93 million 🌈

[@Rckcasa4118]

It is all making sense now. boy that Legacy movie really bamboozled me.

[@geonerd]

"Because PERSECUTION!!!!!!" FFS.... 🙄

[@leiliyahdecotta]

What is she even talking about? Omg.

[@tenny810]

My local Temple isn’t a true local temple because it doesn’t have one does that make does that make my temple ordinances legit?

[@RIO4LIFE]

The spire height must mean more to Utah and Idaho Mormons than outside of those areas - The members I know were never taught that the spire height had ANYTHING to do with the faith - I, was a member missionary out in the mission field of life - most of the people I know have never met a Mormon -

[@funkyfreshtx]

not to mention there are temples that have no spire.

[@IAmJustOneMom]

For 35 yrs I taught Seminary, Institute, and SS for the church ed’l system. NEVER was a steeple (or its height) taught as an element of mormon faith. NEVER.

[@kerkyra4eva]

​@@IAmJustOneMomexactly... like literally never

[@MrRaythMandblues]

@@IAmJustOneMom I did. 4 yrs old in primary: Here's the church, here's the steeple, open the doors, where's all the people? Nothing after that, though.

[@sdfotodude]

I am a nudist. It is my deeply held belief that I was born in the image of God and every single human in history. Can I practice my faith openly in public? Are my beliefs any crazier than if someone believes that Rusty talks to God?

[@robbiefl58]

God would never ask Rusty to take his clothes off. ...Neither would anyone else.

[@ksparks689]

They weren’t buying the bs. Does the steeple need to be tall so the prophet has an antenna to talk to god? Seriously. Go help the needy.

[@jonjahr3403]

This womans statement... just ugh just makes me wanna 🤦‍♂️

[@amybaker1880]

Thought testimonies were first Sunday.

[@rachelricks4890]

She’s using the “sisters in Zion” voice

[@amybaker1880]

@@rachelricks4890 Encourages, and proves, what antis say about them.

[@robbiefl58]

The Laie Hawaii Temple (built in 1913), the Cardston Alberta Temple (built in 1923), and the Mesa Temple (built in 1927) do not have steeples. Architecturally and artistically, I think they are the most beautiful of all the LDS Temples. I was in Utah in March for the first time in 16 years, and I was astounded by the utter UGLINESS of the huge white blocks with steeples that one could see every mile or so while driving along the freeway from Salt Lake to Provo. They are as soulless as the buildings erected throughout Germany by the Third Riech in the 1930s. My opinion: the spires on current LDS Temples are like the Golden Arches that use to grace every McDonalds drive-in. They're nothing more than a corporate logo. And in 40 to 50 years, the LDS Church will come through and "renovate" these God-awful, ugly white blocks so that they look like whatever design their corporate architects think will make them more appealing to the masses at that time. These 90-year-old men and the PR machine they operate (or does the PR machine operate them?) have DESTROYED the greatest work of art created by the Mormon pioneers--the Salt Lake Temple, and they are now dropping the sectarian equivalent of giant McDonald drive-ins across the national landscape. THEY'RE NOT BUILDING TEMPLES TO GOD. THEY'RE ERECTING 3D, GLOW-IN-THE-DARK ADVERTISING.

[@Jsppydays]

I hope to shout the city council's read the text Fr m the pod casts. Even the members are upset at the lds gaslighting that has been presented at the meetings. In my opinion, the church is wrong and should no longer build their temples or churches in neighborhoods. I just built a house in the neighborhood and i had to go by the covenants which they imposed upon me. I could not fight or manipulate the code. Now why in the world can't the LDS church just obey the law?

[@cynthianelson9244]

I grew up in very active LDS family, but I never remember such beliefs. I have since resigned my membership, in part because of the "fluctuating" Mormon beliefs, as well as the treatment of the LGBTQ community, and the lies about the unbelievable amount of money horded in the Ensign Peak Investment arm of the church.

[@Bazcole93]

She really thought she was making a great point

[@dalesnow1761]

Unfortunately members are taught to believe and then comply, without exercising cognitive thinking. Their world is big to them, if there are 17 million members that works out to less than a 1/4 of one percent of the nearly 8 billion people living in this planet. So 99.9975% of the earth’s inhabitants could care less about the temple, what goes on there or how tall the spire is. The TBMs soldier on in all their righteous endeavours and the world continues to turn in spite of mine or anyone else’s influence.

[@djnorman1970]

213 feet tall spire…as a date 213 leaves 322 days in non leap years a skull and bones temple. Like Nelson’s wife died 2.12 the day leaving 322 days in non leap years

[@2latesmart62]

It is so hard to listen to this!!!! Rusty Nelson talks to Jesus Christ??????????????? Talk about being hood winked.

[@robbiefl58]

Yes! Rusty talks to Jesus the Architect/Christ.... which doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus is talking back to him.

[@MPIndy]

Robotic voice. Cult cult cult!

[@sheliabryant3997]

"... Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. And STUBBORNNESS is as INIQUITY and IDOLATRY." I Sam. 15: 23 (NON-jst)

[@geonerd]

WTF are you babbling about?????

[@goodshepard00]

You might be watching the wrong channel for your beliefs. There are many TBM oriented channels. Peace.