Tensions running high due to proposed LDS temple in Lone Mountain area

The debate continues over a proposed LDS temple in the Lone Mountain area. Channel 13's Abel Garcia spoke to neighbors and church officials about how the new building could affect the area. READ MORE: www.ktnv.com/news/tensions-ru...

[@USSResolute]

"To try to avoid it." You mean, prevent it. Well, you need to realize that eventually that land will be sold and developed. She clearly has no idea how much traffic a temple produces. If you don't get a temple, you'll get a shopping center probably. That would be worse.

[@RichardChappell1]

"It has nothing to do with the LDS community, it is only...with this piece of property" while standing in an empty lot surrounded by buildings, including a roller hockey rink, the freeway, a Redi-Mix concrete plant and a school bus yard. It's a little late to be worrying about the pristine area...

[@remmymafia3889]

precisely

[@dcarts5616]

I was thinking the same. Curious what will be built there if they’re successful in rejecting the construction of this temple. I’m driving by the spot today after conference, I don’t think I’ve actually seen the spot selected yet.

[@dcarts5616]

Ok, I sat at the lot for about two hours today after conference. They have a legit case against it. I see how it WILL affect traffic and how it WILL affect the lighting in the area. But lighting only will affect them if the temple is lit up during all dark hours, which it’s not. We’ll see what happens. I wish they could build it in the southwest somewhere, but I’m sure land is harder to come by and much more expensive.

[@shepatown]

Maybe the members of the church can purchase those homes nearby and move in to reduce resistance to the new temple proposal. I'm all for the temple being there.

[@jonjahr3403]

So how are you gonna purchase something that's not for sale???

[@shepatown]

@@jonjahr3403 Not me. Did you mean "they?"

[@jonjahr3403]

In a way, yes! Not to say you actually would do it. I used you as an example since you brought up the idea.

[@shepatown]

@@jonjahr3403 Hypothetically speaking, potential buyers, should they be for the LDS Temple, may find it in their best interest to purchase a home that comes up for sale there. I suspect that would be a form of gentrification. Not meaning to offend anyone. Just describing it. How's that explanation?

[@jonjahr3403]

@@shepatown That's good! As long as the home is for sale and nothing was done to try to force the sale.

[@Illinois12]

The irony is that in 2019 the developer who later sold this lot to the Church had tried to develop homes on it, but his application was shut down by the same neighborhood group that is now opposed to this. Ultimately you have no right to control what someone else builds on property you don’t own, so if you’re going to try to block development, . . . be careful what you wish for.

[@loganv0410]

Hmmm - what if folks don't want their property values "drive(n) up"?? Too many people who should know better treat increased property values, and taxes, as an unmitigated good thing. Logan, LDS

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

It's better than fentanyl addicts and gangsters flooding your neighborhood. I can deal with a tiny 3% annual increase in property tax. For me that's $90 more each year.

[@hpagalla]

the leaders of LDS church doesn't understand that the Lord doesn't like any form of contentions.

[@alainagreen2459]

If they only knew the peace it will bring. Also, traffic won't be crazy at all.

[@Tiny-Cabin]

How does a big building like an lds temple bring peace to non members?

[@Lululila67]

many Mormons don't like non Mormons unless they can recruit you. Similar to other fundamental xtian sects. Also, not alot of racial equality views in orginal mormon propaganda. We need more culture here like hindu, and earth based beliefs here brining this state into the 21st century.

[@JoshButtSr]

Every single time a temple is built, this happens. Every single time. Then it’s built and home values sky rocket and all of the sudden concerns disappear 🫠

[@janerockstar]

I don't know about that....I was going to do a new home build in this area of Las Vegas. I dont want a shinny temple lighted up in my backyard,

[@wendellsurpr4987]

The oldest lie "it will bring up the value land developer home builder here.

[@rboddington]

Skyrocketing home prices only benefit the owner if they sell and move to a new, cheaper area. If home price skyrockets and you stay in your home, you will be paying higher property taxes every month. And that is not a good thing.

[@dcarts5616]

Sometimes the value of a home isn’t that it increases in monetary value. Temples built by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints do more than simply increase the *monetary* value of the homes in the area. Just my $.02.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

@@rboddington They can only increase them a tiny percent each year. I would rather see property values increase by $100,000 and have to pay an extra $100 tax than get a bunch of other stuff on this lot.

[@KevinReeve]

I see a Costco, Walmart, car wash, and a gas station built there instead. That is what happens in these expansion areas. So if I lived there, I would choose the temple.

[@Tubedog8]

Oh my - their property values just went up!

[@lpsbullion]

higher taxes , increased home values is a farce

[@spencerbeard3904]

The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few. The entire country is set up like that but it's only because this is religious that people are so outraged which frankly is prejudice.

[@danieljosephdelta44semperfi]

The needs of the many do not outweigh the needs of the few you communist piece of garbage

[@Tiny-Cabin]

This has nothing to do with prejudice

[@introvertsrock9843]

The sunrise mtn temple was built in 1989. Should interview ppl who lived in the area in the 80s & ask what they & neighbors thought. The neighborhoods are just different. The church should just find another location or stay with one (the drive isn't really that bad, occasionally)

[@scottpetersonwesternhs9905]

This is not the first time the Church has run into opposition with building a temple. Boston, Hartford and if I´m not mistaken Paris all received opposition similar to this. In Boston, the Church built the temple without the steeple. After 2-3 years the citizens saw what the temple did for their area and allowed the steeple to go up. It´s an inspiring structure. I understand these people´s concerns. I would encourage them to spend 5 minutes looking into what happened in Boston.

[@dcarts5616]

I just sat at the temple site after conference today, I spent about two hours there, hoping actually to prove them wrong. Well, legitimate lightning and traffic concerns exist. Yes, there are those who are against it simply for their hatred of anything LDS or religious, but there’s a strong case that traffic will be much worse for those on the one mile stretch of road getting from Lone Mountain to Hickman. Lightning is a minor issue, the temples usually dim after 10 or 11 pm.

[@nspencer257]

On one side, I think it's really crazy that so many church members can so easily disregard a whole community they don't even live in, have never visited or experienced. 'They'll love it they just don't know it' 'there concerns are silly' like, what? One the other hand, there are many people who are saying and even creating petitions saying they don't want a temple built anywhere at all, no matter the location in the valley. So this neighborhood says 'please build somewhere else' but other areas are saying the same thing 'no we don't want you either' So what's the compromise? How does this get worked out? I do think the concerns with the current location are valid though. I don't know the answer but it's just a really complicated situation.

[@Agdry1]

What are they so worried about? The cost of their home’s growing in value by huge margins?!

[@lpsbullion]

Why would people want higher taxes? lol

[@Aaron-SLC]

People care more then money

[@JoeMeservy]

Temples bless lives, families, and communities. I own a home just a couple minutes away and have driven by that site daily for a couple years. I am in full support of this temple.

[@Tiny-Cabin]

How does it bless families and communities of non members?

[@JoeMeservy]

@@Tiny-Cabin, there are a myriad of ways. Among them, they create centers of peace in communities that call community members to a remembrance of covenants they made to be better people-people with integrity and charity, people who also sacrifice time, talents, and means for the greater good and the help heal and strengthen others. Everything done in temples focuses on Jesus Christ, and inevitably that focus brings goodness. Temples are also typically built to high quality standards and maintained in perpetuity. Their surrounding landscaping is likewise carefully maintained, and so they tend to increase surrounding property values. Non-members are invited to visit and reverently walk temple grounds during operating hours and experience the peaceful spirit there. Some temples, including the Las Vegas Temple also allow non-members to enter the lobby/atrium and experience the clean, peaceful beauty and spirit of inside of the temple there. But, all people of all walks of life are invited to prepare themselves to visit other areas of the temple, by following a path that begins with meeting with missionaries and preparing to make covenants such as baptism.

[@joemarpolinio1739]

We cannot blame them, they do not share the same faith we have. They have their own preferences and we cannot simply take it from them. However, it won't hurt them when the temple is built in their area. If their only problem is the scenic view of the Lone Mountain, then the temple adds up to it. The Church will take down the Lone Mountain, it is by revelation upon the minds of the prophet to where the exact location of the temple would be built. Sometimes, these people have to feel it.

[@janerockstar]

the Mormons will win, they have the money and the power. I was going to build a new home here, I don't want that in my backyard. I don't want a building with extreme lighting in my backyard. They need a central location, this building will increase traffic,

[@danieljosephdelta44semperfi]

More idiotic words of nonsense from a demonic deceived, deceiver / cult member

[@dcarts5616]

What do you mean that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints *will take down* the Lone Mountain?

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

@@janerockstar The other temple has nice lighting about the same level as street lights. This is not a casino.

[@janerockstar]

@@The_Savage_Wombat sorry I disagree - look at other Temples. Just build your church in an area that does not need to be rezoned. Build the Temple in central valley in the proper zoning. Not in a residential Neiborhood that has absolutely no street lights. This area of Vegas has no street lights, it's so special. Nice and dark and very quite.

[@kathrinebeeder9892]

Well, they will lose blessings.

[@Illinois12]

Better than a casino a bar or section 8 housing. Catholic here I support 100% this temple. The crimes is the highest here in Vegas that I don't want a getho casino. Yes to Jesus!!

[@rboddington]

Tend to be in the nicer neighbourhoods.....translation, we are not building one in Compton. 🤣

[@janerockstar]

maybe they need to build in a place like Compton, bring the light of Jesus to a dark crime filled area like Compton, that's right, they don't believe in Jesus. But still are not poor repressed areas in need of help from the Church?

[@justelleslife507]

But we built one in Tijuana, Mexico, which btw is stunning!

[@rboddington]

@@janerockstar Why were the missionaries pulled out of Haiti?

[@janerockstar]

@@justelleslife507 I sure hope you don't ask the local TJ members for a single penny. The people their live in poverty. I would expect your powerful rich church donates to the members for attending church. If the church takes money from these people it would be really a terrible thing and show the true colors of your organization.

[@dcarts5616]

@@janerockstar The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints easily could donate $5k-$10k to all its members and then be broke and serve no purpose, or it could live true by the law of the tithe and continue to donate $1 billion + a year to the needy and destitute worldwide be they members or not while still serving spiritual nourishment needed also.

[@bisonhorne7211]

After discovering that temples make the nearby property values skyrocket, all the individuals we interviewed instantly changed their views and now welcome the Lone Mountain Temple.

[@michaelbrown12345]

No it won’t and no they don’t want it.

[@GeadheadNV]

I hike out there. It's definitely the wrong area for a bright white building of that magnitude. After it's built all the Mormans will build subdivisions and crowd the area even more. No thank you, I like it how it is.

[@dagandalton4658]

I kinda wonder how long it really will ‘stay like it is’, the way property is being bought and developed so rapidly nowadays. No matter the decision now, it will be interesting for us outsiders to look back a few years from now, and wonder again.

[@dcarts5616]

It’s more likely that many members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints already live in subdivisions near and around the temple site. We’re 180,000 members in Las Vegas, nearly 10% of the Las Vegas population. Trust me, we’re already out there. The temple will be beautiful and it won’t bother you as much as you fear it will. I hope you all make it to the open house in 3-5 years when it’s finished being built. That’s if the country still exists then. ;) Edit: After sitting at the lot for about two hours today (honestly I thought it was in a different spot when I commented earlier) I think the people have a legitimate concern. Lighting will be an issue but the temple isn’t lit up all night, so this is a minor issue, doesn’t sway me much. The main issue and one I could be swayed to agree with, is going to be the one mile stretch of road from Lone Mountain Rd to Hickman. I could see a noticeable increase in traffic that would be bothersome to some people on that road. We will see what happens I guess. Hopefully nobody for or against the temple gets angry whatever the outcome.

[@danrolle]

​​@@dcarts5616how democratic of you to command that 10% of the population gets to have its way over the rest.

[@vegasmarc7252]

Wah wah wah same nimby junk that ultimately goes nowhere.

[@bidensucks6792]

So basically a NIMBY situation!

[@Robert-wd1mw]

Exactly , In another news story on of the residents said, it jsut not good for this AREA . So yea NIMBY.

[@justelleslife507]

His gospel is one of peace, if they really oppose it this badly we really want to keep the peace, so the location may be moved, most people don't understand what a Temple does for those living near one, it brings blessings to its neighborhood, and the members are quiet, as well as the traffic, I won't be surprised if the site is moved.

[@dcarts5616]

Yep. Traffic and the fact that it is being rezoned are legitimate concerns. I’m sad that it’s not ideal, but it is what it is. The size and the lighting issues are minor issues.

[@yruqrem9]

I don't live in the area but I like to hike the mountain. That area has a unique beauty, quiet, and friendly surrounding. I feel for the residents there. They have something very special over there. The city is changing so fast and so much already. I'm glad I got to experience before the massive migration and population boom

[@dcarts5616]

It is beautiful out there. I lived out there for 10 years, and I’ll take the temple being built over a 700 unit apartment complex any day. That land will be used either way, I advise people to take the temple. Edit: I just visited the proposed site today, I thought it was on another part over there before I found the actual site. Traffic is the only real concern that I think could present a problem, I sat there for about two hours and saw maybe 7-11 cars drive by during what should have been busy traffic for any place in town. The lighting not so much, we dim the bright lights around 10pm. Rezoning it could leave a bad taste in the mouths of those in the area. We’ll see what happens.

[@SheenaOfTheJungle]

The current temple is NOT filled to capacity, far from it. The number of members on record rolls are not reflective of participating members. Conservatively cut by a third. Of the 2/3rds remaining half of that are meeting the high behavioral standards REQUIRED to be allowed entrance and use of a temple. The numbers do not reflect a need.

[@MiMi_MoMo]

And you know this how??? The LDS Church keeps their temple recommend numbers very private, as well as how many people attend the temple. The only way you would know the correct information is if you were a bishop or stake president in the area or if you worked for the church; and if you were either, you would know sharing stats like this is strictly prohibited. Stop making up stuff.

[@user-gc8pc3ol6l]

Typical religion. Instead of spending the money on those that need help build a flashy temple. I'm sure Jesus would be proud.

[@wildad104]

You have no idea the blessings that will come from this temple. And yes, Jesus will be proud.

[@Lululila67]

@@wildad104 why not give some of the money used to the homeless people? Isnt that what Jesus taught in the bible? But no, instead make your parishioners pay 10% of their earnings to a church for aesthetic and ego reasons to look good and look flashy. Women don't even have too many rights in that belief sister. Nothing here has anything to do with God.

[@michaelbrown12345]

This thing will be 217 ft the same height as the massive flagship temple in Salt Lake City. A mini skyscraper should not be set up in an already established residential neighborhood. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@kellybrandon1179]

Brief cases of money will soften the city council hearts. Lets go team zion!!

[@janerockstar]

the Mormon church is the biggest owner of fam land in the USA, even when you combined the other big owners like China and Mr Bill Gates.

[@dcarts5616]

That, or re-zoning takes place all the time and it will be approved just like other things are approved in a sprawling city like Las Vegas, without the money bribes.

[@janerockstar]

@@dcarts5616 lets keep one area of Vegas from being ruined by re-zoning, just because the rules can be ignored or changed doesn't mean they should.....move to an area that has the zoning needed for such a building. Nobody is asking not to build the church.

[@dcarts5616]

@@janerockstar Again, I’m sorry that you’re against a religious temple being built there. I know you’d prefer another 1,000 unit unaffordable apartment complex to be built there or another storage building or maybe even a school. All would obstruct the flow of that area far worse than a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[@joshuamusicant]

Exodus 20:23-25

[@sst5688]

This is good for their neighborhood. Mormon temples are beautiful and create a very Holy feel to the area they’re in. Go take a drive to the one up on the East Side. It is stunning. You feel close to heaven. Absolutely beautiful. If it wasn’t there the homes in that area would be worthless. Also, sorry to say but Mormons still run this town. Discreetly, but they certainly have a huge presence in our politics, zoning, economic prowess etc. they alway$$$ get their way

[@BABALAGAJIGAPOO]

No, they are not good for your neighborhood. They are huge satanic and a false religion. Why would we put this in our town? Go drive-through St. George and see how that looks absolutely disgusting.

[@janerockstar]

We were planning on building a new home in this area. Yes the Temple is interesting to look, that's why it needs to be located in a place for all to enjoy the beauty. We were planning a new home build in this specific area but not anymore, I don't want a shinny building with very bright lights shinning into the night. It's a rural area and it needs to stay that way. Why do we have to commercialize every corner of Vegas? Why should I have increased traffic in my quite neighborhood to accommodate the Mormons?

[@dcarts5616]

@@janerockstarYou must be wealthy if you’re planning on building your own home on land in this area. Can’t you build your house anywhere with that kind of cash? I think you should build in a less expensive part of town, a smaller house, and donate the rest that you would have spent to the needy. I’m being facetious obviously but my goodness, it’s not Las Vegas strip casino level “shinny” and you’ll be surprised how well it blends in when it’s built. I invite you to go to the one on Bonanza and Hollywood at night, during the day, and check out for yourself what it’s like to have a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints temple in the neighborhood.

[@janerockstar]

@@dcarts5616 been up that way at night, the temple is a eye sore. It looks out of place. There was a cool home for sale that backed up to the temple, the home had a pool and would have made a cool place for pool parties ect. It was explained to me that any noise or loud music would be any issue because the church would complain. As far as your 2 cents about helping the needy, that was a foolish comment, your making an assumption.... you have no clue. It's ok, its easy to shout thing out sitting behind a keyboard, I'm sure I have done the same. Have a Nice Day!

[@dcarts5616]

@@janerockstar I disagree. It’s not an eyesore. I also said I was being facetious, please re-read my comment. I’m sorry you are against people practicing their religion and building temples to their god. I have to put up with the religion of secularism being shoved in my face all day every day so I do feel your pain actually.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

They need to build some section 8 housing for all those homeless people living in the storm drains on this site instead. Maybe 1,000 apartments could make a dent in the homeless population.

[@dcarts5616]

The LDS church does? Why?

[@checkoutmyyoutubepage]

@@dcarts5616they just shut down and sold a church near my house. They don’t care. They’re a business cult.

[@janerockstar]

so it a shinny church with mad lighting or apartments... NO We don't need to change zoning we have plenty of areas in Vegas for both and this is Not one of them!

[@dcarts5616]

@@checkoutmyyoutubepageTo operate, it has to have structure. I don’t see anything wrong with a church having an organized structure to operate. LDS have 17 million members, only half live in the US, we’re worldwide. It will be a beautiful building for the area, and the people going there will not disturb anyone. This is simply a case of prejudice and hatred towards LDS.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

@@dcarts5616 And the lady in the video lives a mile away and won't even be able to see this church. It's good thing there's a separation of church and state. Unfortunately, some people don't believe in the Constitution and discriminate against some religions. We all suffer when this happens.

[@ronaldrothchild4068]

Tell Mitt Romney to take his Temple back to Utah

[@cwn89015]

Take your hate back to where you got it from!!!

[@dcarts5616]

You mean back to Massachusetts? lol. I’m not a fan of whiny Mitt “Trump didn’t give me the spot in his cabinet I *begged and groveled* for” Romney either but I think the temples built by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are beautiful and don’t do half the things people are afraid they do when they are built. I hope you’ll attend the open house when it’s built, come see what’s inside, hear about what we do there. I hope that you enjoy the weekend and your sabbath at your church.

[@DanielRivera_124]

take them tamples to utah

[@juliaweber212]

We have members in Nevada Las Vegas

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

The church is worldwide and we have 27 temples in utah, temples are beautiful whether or not you are a member.

[@Lululila67]

@@AdamThygerson-lm1gt and think of the money it took to build it! I dont think Jesus would be too proud of that. He would want that money to go to the needy. But religion make up their own rules as they go along.

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

@@Lululila67 The lds church gave 1.36 billion dollars in humanitarian efforts across the world and yeah temples are not cheap to build but the covenants made and work done inside of them are worth a infinite amount of money. And if you are so worried about money being spent poorly in the world maybe you should start asking huge companies why they build many million dollar casinos just to make money evilly.

[@Pensivelyexpensive]

Property value? That area is already near the millions. I’m all for freedom to worship but obstruction of natural beauty is ridiculous and outright nettlesome when unnecessary.

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

it doesnt distract from lone mountain it enhances it, when it is built you will see that

[@Pensivelyexpensive]

@@AdamThygerson-lm1gt would you say the same were it a mosque? Or Catholic cathedral?

[@dcarts5616]

@@PensivelyexpensiveYes. I would.

[@Pensivelyexpensive]

@@dcarts5616 well I wouldn’t. There are certain things that should just be as they are.

[@Pensivelyexpensive]

@@dcarts5616 plus there is a Mormon Tabernacle down the street from there on Alexander and Durango.

[@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059]

No thanks. We don't need more fanatics....

[@dcarts5616]

They’re not all woke. Why call them fanatics?

[@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059]

@@dcarts5616 Conservativism is also fanaticism. It isn't one sided. The f-ing Plymouth pioneers (and John Smith and Brigham Young) were fanatics too. Look it up.

[@dcarts5616]

@@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059 Look what up? What should I search?

[@kh5603]

@@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059 Smartest comment! Fanaticism fuels endless wars

[@bradytadd5522]

Mormons gonna morm

[@johnklinger943]

These gawdy disgusting buildings ruin natural landscapes. So sick!! What is so sick is because it’s a private club and you can’t even go inside it!!!

[@andyg806]

Why would you want to go inside if it's so gawdy and disgusting? Or are you just a bitter and hateful little beaver?

[@dillon7748]

Do you believe in the bible?

[@sst5688]

He’s right. Unless you are a part of the church and have been deemed in “good standing” of the church will you be granted access into any Mormon temple. They’ve got some creepy things in there like an indoor pool of elephant statues. Not sure the relevance but it’s strange. Seems very culty

[@johnklinger943]

@@dillon7748 I don’t answer Mormon tongue twisters. Try again

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

@@johnklinger943 the evil will be destroyed at the last day

[@checkoutmyyoutubepage]

Can anything look like a middle finger to a community by blocking a view of a beautiful area with a tall building and not allowing the public in? I’ve seen more beautiful and historical churches in Mexico that allow everybody in. Wake up people!

[@straubury5991]

It’s not going to block even 1% of the view of that mountain. What about the city building it’s one thousandth casino, hotel, or strip club? No problem with that?

[@checkoutmyyoutubepage]

@@straubury5991 it’s not blocking views of a mountain…