Mindgames in Competitive Pokemon.

[@jimothycool]

Leo vs BluesEnergy full set: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqmZgXyda5qffJI

[@Munby1]

Great.

[@chess]

chess mentioned

[@Adam-iw9dr]

Chess is here? Appreciating the goat?!!

[@J0ulez5]

Chess mentioned

[@roadrunner5549]

Wtf??? Chess the game is in jimmy cool comments section. Is this due to his connection to the "knight" through the horse council?

[@ViraLCyclopes]

No fucking way

[@NonyaBsnes]

:O

[@solomonpnq]

Instructions unclear, my opponent agreed to play Solitaire instead.

[@tsawy6]

I'll be red, you be black?

[@D461Sage]

Skill issue

[@DarrellKareem-sz4cl]

DO YA THING i guess my dude

[@CMDRPF69]

So, full Baton Pass then?

[@dreadfury2485]

“Pokemon is a bit like chess mixed with poker in that sense.” When you’re up 5-1 against a single Toxapex and your Melmetal gets burned, that combination is condensed into a single word: “choker.”

[@Triattack007]

As you can see the agency is up 5 to 1

[@swagmeat]

😔

[@RuijsNL]

Choker? I hardly know her!

[@pengwino828]

@@Triattack007Swaps out into clef like he’s already won

[@tecul1]

i've been mindgamed when i see a lead magneton

[@traceyiusmemton8768]

Rip skarm leads 😭

[@BKCplaysPokemon]

Superb video idea and execution. The Calm Mind finish was thematically perfect. Poetic cinema.

[@solomonpnq]

my favorite cinematographer

[@SnakeSeeker]

It feels so good when you can read your opponent’s moves and get the predictions right but there is nothing more frustrating than feeling like you can’t make a right move against an opponent who is reading you like a book. Great video!

[@philibertyt2844]

Been there

[@TooMuchDad]

Or when you make a hard read, and the right move all along was to make the obvious play

[@Lumix_Corrupt]

This is why i don’t play against my friends, they know me too well and how much i overpredict everything so they move accordingly

[@haveagreatday6952]

I’ve been bumping into a lot of the people playing in the tournament on gen 3 rand bats and it is wildly interesting to see just how many people playing in these tournies simply refuse to make reads altogether. Equal parts surprising and hilarious to see.

[@ggFreeFall]

The biggest mindgame is when the Magcargo hits the field.

[@windego64]

what did the field do to magcargo

[@Steph_N]

Poor field, I hope they recover from Magcargo's onslaught.

[@vdun]

Strongest horse pokemon of all time

[@elianwyn]

It may have died instantly to earthquake but the psychological damage is already done

[@cabrondemente1]

That's a horse-type.

[@GoldGuard]

Wow, Jim hit me with the 50/50, I thought this was gonna upload tomorrow. Great play Jim

[@chess_fella]

Mindgames always begin when I lead with Lickitung.

[@LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII]

Bonus points if you call it “Zoroark”

[@matthewlong7547]

In Gen 3, ofc​@@LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII

[@ticklezcat5191]

@@LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII The only Pokemon in the team not named "Zoroark" is a Ditto named "Not Zoroark".

[@joefarrow1599]

Zigzagoon

[@FirstLastname604]

Watching this video gave magcargo the mindgame of calling his old college buddy clodsire, who also knows high horsepower, to join the horse council so he can tank horseas incoming water attacks

[@TheMightyNaryar]

Salamence actually surviving an ice attack and then getting freezed... oof Jirachi bullshit indeed

[@tecul1]

what would mence have done back?

[@ramonpena872]

True, even watching that set a few days back, i thought "aren't we watching one of the greatest gen 3 sets ever?" Amazingly back and forth, spectacular plays all around. Insane set

[@watchbavaria]

Skarmory with HP Ground to kill a Magneton must be the most satisfying moment in Gen 3 OU

[@helter1234]

It's called YOLO Skarm. It was really big for awhile but fell out of vouge because some people started making their magnetons bulky which made it too inconsistent.

[@UnoriginalFish]

Getting sick of all the stealth rock+ ghost type rapid spin counters happening in gen 4 ou, I opted for choice band pursuit umbreon which tbh resulted in many of my most satisfying ohkos in singles :)

[@georgemedia1069]

Skrelp would also like to be part of the mighty Horse Council, but he is still being treated unfairly. Like to bring this matter to the council's attention. Thanks, folks.

[@kayoh9364]

I thought with how heavily Moltres was getting mixed on at the start there that Blues was going to be out for sure but then. Mindgamed right back. Truly shows why he's one of the most famous adv players.

[@FrostGlader]

In VGC rulesets, mindgames can also play a huge role in winning. During my climb up the ladder, I was using an Incineroar with a moveset of Flare Blitz, Fake Out, Parting Shot and Helping Hand. The main reasoning I run Helping Hand over the more traditional Knock Off or Snarl is that it synergises well with the rest of my team (a Hyper Offensive team that can operate in Trick Room) and provides a useful countermeasure against getting Faked Out or KOd that plays heavily into the prediction game. When paired with my Dialga Origin, Calyrex Shadow Rider weirdly fell into the trap of Tera Fairy, predicting Dialga will either go for Draco Meteor or a set up move like its Trick Room, while protecting itself from a Dark Move (probably Knock Off) from Incineroar. This was so weirdly consistent that I killed like 7-8 of them with Dialga’s Flash Cannon alone, because it happens Flash Cannon and Flare Blitz naturally KO it when combined, and Calyrex isn’t an immediate threat to either of them.

[@floralpatterns21]

I saw this set yesterday and was absolutely blown away by the level of reading going on. Truly a game for the ages

[@ryanmcconnell3932]

Chrono Trigger + FF6 for background music? I'm subbed to a man of impeccable culture.

[@EidinAegis]

Mindgames are a healthy yet satisfying way to spicen up competitive play in any game with a PvP format

[@DyxoXinoro]

Bro the use of Chrono Trigger's soundtrack in this video got a STAB on how hype these mindgames are

[@deneuvethestupid8044]

I came to my own birth late but came soon to watch the strondous emotions of this battle. Amazing

[@blackabe111]

Jim, I really appreciate adding the mini boss battle theme from FFVI.

[@3godzilla3]

"Decisive Battle" is what it's called!! FFVI is my favorite 😭

[@zer0_674]

The Calm Mind Spinda causes the biggest mindgames.

[@Rubbly]

The mindgames were in full force this whole set! Really great games, he's right about checking it out!

[@sethnaffziger1402]

One of my favorite moves is when you fail a prediction, but just double down on it even though it's still a bad play... so many times the other player is like "HAHA GOTTEM" and then just goes for the play you predicted thinking there's no way you're bullheaded enough to do it again when they just "beat" you. Wrong good sir I will die eqing your Charizard!!

[@TheGamemonkey505]

I'm here so early I beat the video quoters

[@mimikyuliker946]

Imagine if there was an anime/manga about these kinds of Pokémon battles, with all the mind games and whatnot. It would be like jujutsu Kaisen and death note rolled into one

[@Sonicfan640]

Surprised that this video only focuses on ADV. Sucker Punch alone makes it worth talking about mind games in later gens.

[@420OngBak]

This humble pokeboomer appreciates FF6/Chrono Trigger music. Thank you Jimmothy for your great taste in music

[@ladonmccabe]

This match shows, more than anything, how important it is for a player to adapt.

[@snasman6168]

Sometimes the best mind game is the most obvious play

[@ciciosweep]

Instructions unclear, i'm spaming Earthquake

[@MuffinWeeb125]

Where is Iron Mugulis? I kinda miss him…

[@jimothycool]

He could still be at large, little is known

[@usernametaken017]

​@@jimothycoolcould he be an important member of the cup council?

[@glitchedoom]

Magcargo joined the Horse Council to procure enough horsepower for Jim to defeat the villainous mug. The nefarious Horsea must be dealt with first.

[@StormlordOG]

Remember, High Horsepower is 4x effective against Mugulis... Is this Foreshadowing?

[@usernametaken017]

@@StormlordOG nice argument, unfortunately focus sash + endeavour + quick attack

[@tepigninja7198]

See this is why turn based RPGs like Etrian Odyssey and the first two Bravely Default games (the ones on the 3DS, not BDII) are often times my favorites. The fact that both sides take their turn together with who going first depending on speed or other factors I think adds a lot of depth that a simple "your turn then its theirs" could achieve. Your plan of attack for that turn could get crippled or out right prevented if the enemy uses the right move, but likewise you can do the same. It adds an element of higher unpredictability, but in turn this also forces you to think about how you plan each of your turns more carefully, do you play it safe and go on the defense? Or do attempt to crush your opponent now and risk a retaliation?

[@subtodicerat8305]

mind games are all fun and good untill your predict gets thrown out the window by something stupid

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

You deal with the mind game I deal with the mind goblin We are not the same.

[@philtommygino1]

I mind the goblin deals personally.

[@tecul1]

what's that

[@chefdunsparce4254]

Thank you bestie for not spoiling the set 🙏

[@draymondstreamz8268]

Great video Jim!

[@dm9910]

like in poker, a lot of hay is made about specific "soul reads" in single moments, but imo this is the wrong way to think about the game. in a game between strong players, any single prediction comes down to luck because both players are purposefully randomizing their choices. the mark of a strong player isn't whether they can "read" their opponents but whether they can balance their range to avoid exploitability. in pokemon, this means you don't click shadow ball against snorlax because you've read their mind and are sure they're switching to gengar this turn. you click shadow ball at random, just often enough that your opponent has to choose between risking either gengar or snorlax, or going to a more passive middle ground option that lets you keep the initiative. sometimes your opponent goes to gengar and you look like a genius, but even if they don't, the threat of shadowball is preventing gengar from getting free switchins and maybe even baiting snorlax to stay in on a brick break in the future.

[@tecul1]

this is very perfect, linear also describes it exactly this way

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

Understood. I will be mindful of the many games in Competitive Pokemon.

[@kiracite]

Was a sick set tbh, one of my favorites

[@mattlucier9740]

That chrono trigger music! Beautiful…

[@aydeniswise4081]

Woah, this is a cool video

[@SuperNintendawg]

Great commentary! I would love to see you have your podcast partners commentate on games with you.

[@nSenuh]

Jimothy Cool

[@jimothycool]

Hi.

[@nSenuh]

Thank you for the new video

[@josenobi3022]

I'm disappointed in Leo for not predicting the double down on the offensive read, and then the third offensive read. It was just logical to do because blue needed it to get back into the game.

[@combatseawolf]

He could’ve had the winning edge if he kept metagross in the field instead of switching ‘zard in

[@miked5163]

BluesEnergy is an example of a Gen3 OU player

[@veryconfusedidiot]

Nothing beats the mindgame of that one VGC player, (don’t remember their name sorry) who bought and showed off a Charizard X plush to trick his opponent into bringing counterplay for it when he actually used Y.

[@spectrum_7257]

W chrono trigger music

[@silvervirio3642]

4:12 your video get recommended to me after watching poker video lol

[@jykatyk567]

Missed opportunity to play Last Surprise over the video I'd never see it coming

[@AngryAyrab]

We gaming, boys.

[@CoralReaper707]

One of my favorite cases of mind games has to be when I ran regieleki alongside competitive wigglytuff in gen 8. People would go to their landorus at the sight of regieleki like they're npcs, only for them to die to a 2+ wigglytuff ice beam

[@erich_ika]

match so crazy it got a double switch in the first turn

[@buttp0under420]

How will this match affect LeBron's legacy?

[@TheNikKon]

Looking back on it, that swap to metagross instead of clicking substitute cost him so much.

[@nothankyou4859]

I have been running Qwilfish with both boom and destiny bond. Makes for some interesting mindgames, Gengar is another mon who could run both at once (dont do this)

[@GabeLucario]

Competitive Pokemon really stands out in the world of turn based strategy games

[@keckingcatears9655]

because of its emphasis on psychological warfare and mind games

[@IceCreamKatGaming]

Because of its emphasis on psychological warfare, and mindgames,

[@pageclayton6850]

​@@IceCreamKatGaming because turns are taken simultaneously, instead of sequentially

[@bmxney3143]

Maplestory music, instant like

[@yvendous]

I didn't expect the Pocahontas lead

[@DarthNoshitam]

You're not playing against the pokemon, you're playing against the trainer

[@migg9777]

I have always enjoyed the variety of moves that Pokémon can have, adding into the unpredictability of a battle. Its just sad to see that some of them are just outright banned by an unofficial metagame as of recent, citing unpredictability as the core reason behind such actions. If Terastalization was banned from the inception of SV OU, I would have most likely stopped playing in PS! by now

[@charliebartlett5768]

Hey Jim, maybe a video on the advantages and disadvantages of Gyarados vs Salamence in gen 3?

[@EDFHLFLFF]

jimothy my beloved 🥰🥰🥰

[@cinders11037]

the ultimate mindgame is to play like an 8 year old who just wants to click attacks

[@asdfzxcv12345]

Mr Cool, was that the Golden Sun OST I heard there?

[@TheStrongestBaka]

Mindgames were what got me burned out on competitive pokemon and turned me into a watcher rather than a player. Doesn't mean the game is bad, of course.

[@wrongbat5511]

7:56 Jirachi farter than salamence 🗣️🔥

[@franciscovaldes4107]

0:34 "pokemon is a bit like check mixed with poker" But those are two games where turns are taken secuencially, you just said that what makes pokemon like this is taking turns simultanely (Sorry for bad english)

[@stephensardinha6750]

You forgot to mention Magcargo

[@jimothycool]

That's true. My mistake

[@jorhey9346]

Holy gaming epic video

[@darko-man8549]

Sucker punch - the eternal kind game

[@armorbearer9702]

I am a bit suprised Leo did not Meteor Mash the Tyranitar.

[@benjulesrun9057]

mindgames are fun and all but sometimes you just gotta rock slide the charizard to keep em honest iykwim

[@leonardobarbosatelles2779]

Epic and insane gaming

[@UnoriginalFish]

Shout out to all sucker punch victors and sufferers out there, waiting for the excitable coinflip at the end of each turn :)

[@justcallmeleonardo]

I've played vs Blues a lot. That Slaking never stops being the bane of my existence. Apparte se readdo corretto ovviamente...e Jira riesce ad haxxare neh?

[@Culk-kb4fn]

Honse 🫁

[@datboikuronite]

Terry Bogtar is an amazing nickname

[@HighOnLithium]

please keep up with the chrono trigger ost

[@susguyfromamongus]

It's over kid. I'm 5 yomi layers ahead of you

[@tumultuous]

What level does Skarmory get Slash Blast and Hyper Body?

[@tecul1]

Level 100

[@dogman7776]

Yes video

[@techknight3753]

This kind of game is why I will never touch vgc again until open team sheet is good and gone. I understand tera has left things a bit chaotic but open team sheet ruins my favorite part of the game.

[@belnades7315]

Name of the song in 3:06?

[@2000Vincius]

Hey Jim I am the creator of the DD Smeargle Marowak team currently in the 1700s. Would you like to have the team for a vid.

[@HazeOfHaz]

7:56 "Jirachi farted than Salamence"?

[@vyktorehon5995]

the balls on Leo

[@kopv1827]

How much did that salamence freeze matter?

[@jimothycool]

Not at all, Rachi lives anything except perhaps a Crit EQ

[@kopv1827]

@@jimothycool i see, thanks for the info. Amazing video btw!

[@Ash-jv9gx]

​@@jimothycoolbro this is the most bestest video ,I want more videos on prediction and mindgames

[@june9914]

I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I knew you would cheat. So I hid fake swords all over the place!

[@echo5172]

oh my gyatt

[@halogamer41]

I doubled there.

[@usernametaken017]

no nonsense vs all nonsense

[@senpai2.054]

specs tyranitar

[@ibidysphoriaqueen]

To truly be good at mind games you have to clear your mind and vibe, this is something I learned from fighting games

[@azeria1]

Pokermon

[@triviszla1536]

Definitely my weakest attribute. Can't read people worth a damn.

[@jamesh7469]

0 views in less than a minute, you fell off

[@ibidysphoriaqueen]

To truly be good at mind games you have to clear your mind and vibe, this is something I learned from fighting games