Boxing Is Useless Against BJJ

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[@michaelmuss397]

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[@JoeMama-zx1gu]

​@jrmartinez1354 hail Satan lmaooo ⁶6⁶

[@warrenbfeagins]

Boxing is useful. Grappling is useful. Kicking, kneeing, elbowing and headbutting is useful. All can end a fight.

[@jbthatsfire]

💯💯💯💯

[@person4585]

facts, the danger of these skills is wielder and situational dependent

[@Plutonic_Blue]

It’s amazing how this isn’t common sense. Everyone just watches UFC and suddenly become experts on it and say the dumbest shit like “a boxer would never sleep an MMA fighter in a street fight” like my guy; it literally just depends on the fighter; all tools are useful as the other. One punch, one kick, one takedown, one of any of these is all it takes for a fight to be over

[@tfGypsyKing]

​@idfan3143 that's true but everybody with some experience gotta tell you rule no1 is to stay on your feet in a street fight. Some coward gonna soccer kick you while you try to grabble your opponent, it happens all the time

[@warrenbfeagins]

@@Plutonic_Blue CORRECTAMUNDO

[@tonywackett326]

It feels silly to choke someone out while 3 people kick you in the head.

[@maxk880]

No single martial arts is gonna help you 1v4. Martial art is not for self defence, it's for confidence and health. Every 1v1 or 1v2 scenario van be talked out without violence and 1v3 or more you should just give your money or run

[@tonywackett326]

@@maxk880 true, but it's rather be able to punch hard and accurately than wrestle

[@uriel6873]

@@tonywackett326ima be honest with you, yes if you’re in a street setting and dude has his friends, deascilate. But if you’re at work or one on one with somebody road raging or just any scenario when you know it’s the two of you only, grappling is gonna FUCK THAT DUDE UP. Like trust me bro, I’ve seen too many videos where boxers get too confident and next thing you know they’re getting rear naked choked by a JiuJitsu Blue Belt (Not even a Purple, Brown or Black belt).

[@mattball7074]

Exactly, to each their own, but BJJ guys talk the most shit and never factor in this. It works best 1 vs.1. With rules and a soft surface

[@akaInfamous]

​@mattball7074 factor in what, that multiple people will be involved. Think about that logically, if there are multiple people why would you try to take on to the ground and choke him out? That's not the only aspect of bjj, so you and the OP are a bit mistaken.

[@SunBearDabs]

“100% of fights start on the ground”~ Some random homeless dude I met

[@davemeads859]

Bill "SuperFoot" Wallace said exactly this 💯 🔥🔥

[@williamsmith8790]

Don Wilson said, “100% of fights start standing up.”

[@saferabies]

​@@williamsmith8790if the guy just lays on the ground I won. And it'll embarrass the hell out of him in front of everyone when you point it out.

[@Uneke]

⁠@@saferabiesI’d sit on the ground and laugh if you tried to “embarrass” me and reply “you’re standing and scared to come at me, who’s the one who is really embarrassing”.

[@jessetorralba]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@anwarsentinel1752]

Boxing should be learned regardless of what martial art you do.

[@Sean-c1k]

Yes! Every martial artist should learn boxing.

[@SINdaBlock411]

same with wrestling as well

[@mildyCMF]

I agree ​@@SINdaBlock411

[@philyip4432]

I totally agree.

[@juicebokz7743]

Jiu Jitsu and boxing period.

[@carolinagoldbug983]

I DO like that Joe gives some guests pushback when they're being arrogant assholes.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

The guest was right

[@ryantogo8359]

​@@dragonballjiujitsuok bjj nerd

[@bobronsons5780]

Here Joe was being the arrogant asshole

[@gladiator_gamerbr6061]

@@dragonballjiujitsusure buddy

[@gorillawhale1046]

@@dragonballjiujitsu okay Karen

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

This guy has 150% never been cracked in the nose by a set of toughened knuckles.

[@jayslice4371]

He’s actually had a couple amateur mma fights. At least 2 I’m pretty sure

[@aarkproductions]

Plus he's talking about closing the distance... But With a boxer? Not happening, they are the best at distance management

[@jayslice4371]

@@aarkproductions if you’re talking about the crème of the crop boxers yeah but in reality the average boxer isnt that good RELATIVE to the top boxers you see on tv. I’m not trying to be a tough guy but I actually train mma. About 2 years striking on/off and 3 years bjj. When I spar with boxers who have been boxing for 7 years plus it’s not hard to take them down. And that’s just me with 3 years of grappling against grown men who have close to a decade of striking experience. If it was canelo yeah I’m not getting close but the average boxer is more than likely not that elite. That’s why you see keyboard warriors critique trained fighters in street fights. It takes a lifetime to become as good as the boxers you see on tv

[@dgal5478]

​​@@jayslice4371seems you are wrong. It's like saying average BJJ couldn't wrestle cos he is not top one. BJJ goes about grappling, muai Thai goes a lot about conditioning, Taekwando and karate - kicks. So is the movement and footwork in boxing. It's the essential, if are not good on foot, you are not an average boxer, that's it. If you are average, you will outplay average bjj when it goes about keeping the right distance and position in stance

[@aarkproductions]

@@jayslice4371 No I get what you mean, especially when you have a lot of pro boxers that surround themselves with journey men and like can have zero losses. Cause they could kinda be up against regular guys And it's an interesting topic 🤔 And there record is never REALLY put to the test In a way that's prob why some people say going pro is relatively "easy" I'm just a hobbyist and I could sense my hands were faster, when trading blows with an MMA guy So when it came to perrying and slipping his shots, it was kinda easy But he was a tough dude, very short, and we were kinda just kickboxing sparring so no grappling One time he played a trick on me, gesturing his hand for me to shake it And this little dude had me on the mat in seconds For me I've never viewed myself as a "tough guy" And I've always said this: "I train because I DON'T think I'm a tough guy" Ya know?

[@vengarlof7033]

Fights almost never occur with a soft mat, and almost always on your feet

[@SirTunaFish69]

Exactly in the street boxing is way better because your main goal should be stay on your feet and find an opertunity to run

[@oasis9665]

@@SirTunaFish69lol as someone who’s been in multiple street fights while boxing is good the moment you get on the ground with me it doesn’t matter fight is over. I will snap both your arms and kamora your legs lol

[@aidanpage452]

@@SirTunaFish69 you have the opportunity to run before the fight starts, it all changes when someone grabs you

[@ZippyG]

Usually over in flash.

[@pinkydavis6113]

So???

[@chadlaflamme7942]

"Putting on gloves just feels silly".. lays on the ground with his legs spread and invites his buddy to climb on top of him.

[@JonBlack413]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tmayorca8770]

Exactly

[@NIKINNIT]

Yeah and then they kick there ass

[@umxltiii9796]

Aye man it's always a good time 👍😂

[@matthewmontalvo5066]

bruh

[@zekehernandez2397]

If you have a good 1 2, and can sprawl, you’ll fuck up 90% of the planet

[@colecampbell1906]

If you know how to block and can wrestle well, you'll fuck up like 95%

[@RainbowBandana]

And if you have a gun I'm thinking 98%

[@robertopics]

​@@colecampbell1906over simplistic specially if you're a rather small guy, grappling or boxing will give you a good chance to survive a fight, but if you're under 5'9" and under 160lbs you're not beating 90+% of the population unless you're available l above solid/average.

[@justjarvis106]

@@RainbowBandanaif you have a tank you’ll be the guy with a gun If you have a atom bomb you’ll disintegrate you opponent and his country

[@MuchoNoBueno]

@@robertopicsI bet you’re 260

[@germanrud9904]

These BJJ nerds are getting so delusional omg

[@danielfenton1686]

They literally sniff crotch all day. What do you expect those swamp fumes to do someone's brain

[@SBrown-ti8xe]

It's so fucking funny

[@uriel6873]

Nah it’s just facts. Seen videos where Jiujitsu blue belts are actively choking out boxers left and right

[@jd8226]

@@uriel6873well you definitely ain’t choking out anyone so zip it

[@jakesock58]

@@uriel6873😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

[@sammyjoebob859]

I’ve seen boxers knock 3\4 people out without breaking a sweat within seconds. Never seen a bjj guy take on 4 people and win.

[@TheChuky18]

Thats the point! In a street fight you often face multiple opponents, jiu jitsu doesnt do shit then..

[@jamesbaker3153]

Also works a little better than grappling if someone has a knife and doesnt advertise it.

[@neilrogers6767]

Boxers can't take on 4 determined guys either so chill. Learn to run at an athletics club and you'll survive most drunken groups by out running them.

[@TheChuky18]

@@neilrogers6767 great advice, just run and let your girlfriend do the work for you?

[@0111-k9m]

​​@@neilrogers6767running is situational, you won't run if you have a duty to be where you are, have kids with you, etc..

[@mr.tomatohead3709]

Jiu jitsu guys feel like supermen until they're walking with bambi legs

[@HtheKing]

That's why I train muay Thai too

[@GuillermoSanchez-jr6mp]

People call me a Jiu Jitsu guy because I train BJJ but I trained boxing many years ago. Boxers are silly and close minded.

[@Yourmom-sb9lk]

Hey the og japanese jj can strike man. Remember judo comes from jj. Judo is arguably one of the greatest self defense martial arts and it comes from the original jj

[@Yourmom-sb9lk]

And another thing against bjj In my experiences as a boxer sparing with them it's simple. If they take you down just stand up Literally forcefully stand up . It's that simple

[@poochiboy]

@@GuillermoSanchez-jr6mpYeah but punch knockout to a bjj

[@josholdham1033]

Even as a BJJ practitioner Joe admits you need more. Good for him

[@reubinthomas]

That's the beauty of Joe. He never limits himself to one thing, whether it's an idea or a martial arts. He always tries to keep an open mind.

[@StevenLashonWilliams]

Joe is a mma person. Black belts in Karate, taekwondo and Juitsu!

[@josholdham1033]

@@StevenLashonWilliams absolutely, but I’m pretty sure he has basically said they were trash and he wishes he’d never done karate or taekwondo.

[@JesRocWitMe]

​@@josholdham1033well that's odd of him to say considering it made him a more complete martial artist

[@josholdham1033]

@@JesRocWitMe don’t quote me on that, I’m going by a memory of him saying that and I don’t know where to find the clip necessarily . You are absolutely correct in the sense of being useful, as he credits practicing Taekwondo for his powerful kicks obviously. And, to clarify it wasn’t that he said they were trash, more that he was sorry he invested so much time in them early on, as BJJ and MMA hadn’t reached the popularity and accessibility back then that they enjoy today

[@thepinkbucket6250]

I’m glad Rogan shot down that idea quickly, because boxing is a lot more useful on a daily basis than bjj is

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

No it's not lol. I prefer boxing to BJJ but most street fights end up on the ground.

[@guusgeluk3693]

Every fights starts standing what's your point.

[@theforce5191]

​@@guusgeluk3693in a competition, both competitors are standing at the beginning. It's about who wins at the END, and most street fights END ON THE GROUND.

[@person4585]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 u must be an idealist, cause in the streets anything can happen, if u on the ground choking him out and homie pulls a knife, a gun, or one of his homies tries to sneak u, ur done, if ur on yp feet piecing him up u at least have a chance

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

@@person4585 No you don't lmao. If da hommie come up cappin dat blap blap wit da nukes and M2, you gotta go slat slat blamm ting tang.

[@Bli-qr3gg]

Bjj nerds are forgetting that boxers have otherworldly distance management so good luck getting in close without getting pieced up

[@smockingbard]

“I can just grab you” Gets knocked down with the first swing, tries to pull guard, gets kicked in the head by a random pedestrian

[@monkeeeking2114]

@@smockingbardnot what happened in ufc 1.

[@neart2810]

I seen it at my club . Their was bjj their as well and one guy challenge our top guy style vs style. It was interesting till my teamate timed his takedown and throw and upper cut then left hook to the dome and that was the end of that. It was wild buddy was snoring

[@Skyx5m50]

Dude haha in high school a shorter wrestler tried to fight a taller guy who trained boxing and the taller guy literally took a step back and launched the meanest uppercut I’ve seen in real life. Safe to say ole wrestler and his friends were given a huge piece of humble pie.

[@neart2810]

@@Skyx5m50 🤣 it ia crazy the hate boxing gets in these comments. The go on about too many rules or something. It is a sport it needs rules but to think some of those skills wouldnt work in real life situations is insane.

[@dexterboyz4023]

Bjj guys, always so sure that they will just grab someone and get them to the ground…

[@iam-retarded-but]

Boxers are delusional about their street fighting capabilities

[@silverjaguar6744]

​@@iam-retarded-butStanding is infinitely better. First of all, do the BJJ people not realise they'd likely be fighting on a hard ground? Try rolling around and jumping on that... As a boxer you can land a shot and probably end the scuffle. Most people aren't used to getting a 100% shot on the face with no gloves. It hurts badly. In the time it takes them to sort of recover, the boxer can be long gone. Boxing is vastly superior to any kind of wrestling

[@iam-retarded-but]

@silverjaguar6744 lol okay so somehow every boxer has 1 punch ko power now? Most fights will go to the ground, it doesn't matter how hard the ground is even if you're rolling on glass, all it yakes for a bjj practitioner to put you out is to get on your back for a second, standup is absolutely not better, grappling is infinitely better against untrained people is most situations

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Yeah because it takes someone with serious skills to prevent them from getting the take down. Stand up fights only happen when both parties agree to it, otherwise fights basically always end up on the ground.

[@zetta1200]

​@@iam-retarded-butdefinitely not, watch some videos of boxers fighting on the streets, guys fighting 1v4 and still KO'ing grown men with one punch

[@corwintrigg3002]

If someone's got a knife, or a friend, I'd much rather know boxing than try to grab or take down anyone.

[@philh2932]

How are your fists going to beat a knife?

[@corwintrigg3002]

They're not, they're going to hopefully help keep them at around length and be on my feet till I can run. I'd rather have a stiff jab and good footwork in that situation than a solid takedown. But both are nice. One will just get you stabbed or your head stomped in.

[@JaedenCage]

​@@philh2932why dafaq do you assume I'm gonna punch the knife?

[@anotherinternetperson8495]

​@@philh2932how is lying on the floor gonna stop a knife

[@HoniTheCircleMaker13]

​@@anotherinternetperson8495 people have so many weird views on Jiu Jitsu. Playing guard is a style of Jiu Jitsu Helio Gracie created because he was frail and couldn't do anything else. The first technique used by Royce Gracie in the UFC was a double leg takedown. Go train 🤦

[@T9RX3]

Rogan talked some sense into that guy

[@andrewtregoning]

louis has competeted in mma and boxing more than joe at this point

[@suryashissubba4032]

Not Professional boxing, talk is cheap boy!

[@marrami2059]

@@andrewtregoningthat doesn’t meant squat though . I know a few people who are some savages but have no need or desire to compete. They simply do it for the love of the sport & self defense . You can have 1000 competitions and still lose to a guy who never competed.

[@boboallin]

@@suryashissubba4032 boxing is great but it’s just a reality kickboxing, wrestling and bjj win 99/100 times. Punching power is something you’re born with idgaf what anyone says professional or not some boxers just can’t hit hard enough to be able to keep someone off of them so as soon as it isn’t strict boxing rules they’re essentially fucked. Much of what boxers are taught defensively completely goes out the window when the other guy can kick, knee or take you down. Boxing is extremely limited Ryan Garcia for example thinking he has any chance whatsoever against Sean omalley in mma is pure delusion he would have literally 0 chance and would get stopped within a round

[@wtuatary]

@@marrami2059no you can’t and That’s never happened lmao competing and practicing with people who compete are what takes you to the next level, no one that you know that doesn’t compete would beat a pro mma fighter 😂😂😂😂

[@JonnyNonsenseUK]

I’ve been training BJJ for 5 years and I have zero confidence in my ability to beat a half-decent boxer of my own size.

[@mynameisjeff6988]

Your coach must be teaching more of a sport BJJ then. He should be teaching takedowns and takedown defense. This is the problem with the argument of boxing vs bjj Boxers are thinking of BJJ as guys in gi’s doing butt-scoots everywhere and not in a wrestling aspect where he is just as dangerous on his feet as he is on the ground. Standing guillotines and chokes are pretty easy for most trained no-gi guys

[@georgefromgreece4119]

​@@mynameisjeff6988 That's true

[@renatolaranja3850]

1st rule of a street fight: stay on your feet

[@LPSpooks]

1st rule in a Street Fight, 😄 THERE ARE NO RULES!!

[@ObitoUchiha_106]

punch and run kids… just punch and run

[@JosephBiesty]

How are you gonna stay on your feet if you don’t know how to defend takedowns 👀

[@mvas1l]

​@JosephBiesty if they take you down u pull out a knife and win

[@ObitoUchiha_106]

@@mvas1l I wanted to say it, I didnt… Im glad you said it

[@fireandiron4181]

“Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own.” - Bruce Lee

[@tattooninja]

Discard BJJ

[@fireandiron4181]

@@tattooninja Claiming that all of BJJ is useless is a good recipe to get your ass whooped by a fully rounded martial artist.

[@tattooninja]

@@fireandiron4181 BJJ cultists always back up their empty martial art with threats and big talk, those are the main moves of BJJ. Nobody who does BJJ ever "whoops" anyone outside their fantasy and the mat.

[@marcusbullock630]

"My legs! I cant feel my legs!!" -Bruce Lee, a short time later.

[@Deussmorte]

Didn't work for him in a street fight did it? All it took was a cuppa tea :-/

[@volts400]

Most bjj guys have never been punched in the face. They would be shook meeting an intermediate boxer

[@jwperez-hester6624]

I’ve trained and competed at Muay Thai, boxing, and bjj. I was shook rolling with a white belt for the first time. If you don’t know how to grapple then your standup will mean nothing

[@volts400]

@@jwperez-hester6624 rolling with someone better is surprising, but it's not the complete state of shock as getting punched in the mouth

[@buttnuttz6119]

Most boxers haven’t had their skulls cracked open on the pavement from a takedown

[@mowgli6345]

Welcome all to a concept in MMA called "a puncher's chance." The striker always has a chance of knocking out the grappler before the grappler can secure a takedown, but if the strike gets taken down and doesn't know any grappling, they will drown. The general strategies have been to be stylistic purists, or generalists that learn a little bit about everything to defend against different styles. There is no superior style. All depends on how the events of the fight transpire. All the striking experience in the world won't help you when you're being held down in side control, and all the grappling experience in the world won't protect you from leg kicks or lethal KO strikes.

[@jessef88]

It even funnier if those dudes do fight and get hit and just think they can take a punch like in mma and then grab ahold but reality is once you get hit closing distance and you're not use to takin shots good luck finishing your shot against a boxer who can get a punch off on you first. Once he grabs the boxer sure, I agree, but not all fights so simple that how I know he don't fight much

[@3dfxvoodoocards6]

Boxers are always dangerous, one punch delivered in a fraction of a second can KO you.

[@Vladimir66616]

Unless they get taken down

[@jimgonewild909]

@@Vladimir66616like he said a fraction of a second which is obviously faster than someone shooting for a take down dummy

[@N1TRRR0]

@@Vladimir66616shut up nerd

[@PITV1P3R]

@@Vladimir66616wont happen boxers have fast feet movement to evade that then punish you for the miss

[@FakeAndTrolled]

A trained boxer doesn’t even have to hit you cleanly to hurt you. A cuffing shot will have the average BJJ practitioner not know what planet he’s on.

[@mikey4512]

They better land their shot , because as soon as the grappler reaches striking distance, they can take down the boxer and smash them with strikes , strangle, or break their joints . It all depends

[@angryktulhu]

@@mikey4512”they can take” ok bro watch King of the streets fights to see grapplers losing coz their opponents were poking their eyes out 😂

[@mikey4512]

@@angryktulhu good luck eye poking someone when your getting choked out 🤣. Like I said , you better do damage before the grappler gets you down and puts you in a dominant position.

[@irishninja2009]

@@mikey4512try it on a 6’5” 250lb guy who can throw any sort of shot

[@3756hans]

exactly@@angryktulhu

[@SnakesWrath]

Joe just gave this guy a dose of reality.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

Not really

[@DARKFELINE190]

​@dragonballjiujitsu not really 🤡

[@Vladimir66616]

Reality is boxer will be taken down lol

[@benjaminturner3884]

Guy is living in a vacuum where he starts all fights from the floor.

[@rgonzalo511]

It wouldn't be that hard to take down a person not trained in grappling. So that point becomes kinda irrelevant

[@Vladimir66616]

Nah he’ll take you down to his world

[@ZippyG]

Joe always keeps it real.

[@TheWolfnman]

Here though. The guy says "I could easily take down boxers", and Joe responds with "but what about Crawford, who can box AND wrestle!?" No shit, if they wrestle, they can't be taken down.

[@folksurvival]

Like when he said Rousey could beat Mayweather and many lower weight make MMA fighters?

[@greyk610]

He does, but he's kind of annoying sometimes. Thinks he knows everything and has a condescending ass tone.

[@justinhearst]

No he fucking doesn't

[@benjaminwright-rj9xc]

Joe goes off the deep end with conspiracy theories on a regular basis.

[@SlappoLS]

Boxing is super relevant in real life, I’m not trying to roll with 5 drunk dudes at a bar, I’m throwing some big over hands and running away before people start glassing each other! BJJ athletes have the biggest chip on their shoulder it’s hilarious 😂

[@leedutch5155]

Don’t say bjj athlete they’re leg humpers

[@thatpersiandude7386]

Calling them soy boy’s athletes are exaggerating

[@Matt-zp1jn]

b jay -jutsu ! 😂 So much man-on-man leg humping goin on for months , nay years even in training lol. 😂

[@humann5682]

I worked at bars in university for 4 years. There the bouncers explained the 3 second rule: 99% of fights like OP describes last 3 seconds or less. It's not some prolonged altercation. It's vicious bash and dash. No one us rolling round on the ground. Also good luck shrimping and bridging and berimboling in a crowded bar where you have tables and peoples legs and walls surrounding you. You can barely move around on the ground because of the obstacles. BJJ guys certain they would kick ass in a bar are those skinny nerds you see in BJJ classes who never had anything close to a real fight ever. They do BJJ specifically to get to feel tough but *without fighting*

[@gracialonignasiver6302]

BJJ guys never take into account actually getting hit. They're used to being able to grab someone by the legs and not get punched in the back of the head, or take a knee to the face. BJJ guys' sparring sessions are very constrained and doesn't account for taking crazy hits like that.

[@misaelestrada5370]

Some people don't understand how fast a boxer can fuck you up before you even come close to grab him.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

People don't understand a shitty grappler can put you to sleep in 6 seconds

[@what9plus10_]

if your close enough to hit your close enough to grab

[@swappedoutZ71]

​@@what9plus10_not if I have a longer reach than you

[@DAVAND23]

Some people don't understand that most dudes who practice BJJ can't wrestle. You gotta take the fight to the ground for any BJJ training to be worth a damn.

[@jaredmackey4511]

@@DAVAND23That’s like saying most wrestlers can’t do judo. It always comes back to how that individual trains. Not everyone is training for “the streets”. Plus, the entire premise of jiu jitsu is for when or if you end up on the ground. It’s not like you can only grapple if that’s the sport you train in. Hit the mf!

[@TsarFrancisDrake]

Don't give the BJJ nerds more of an ego than they already have. They're already the biggest shit-talkers in martial arts.

[@WatWarrior22]

Seriously, their egos are out of this fuckin world, grapplers in general are like this

[@TravellerTinker]

​@@WatWarrior22judo is a good grappling martial art, u can fight multiple people with judo cuz its stand up

[@Boxingsmart]

@@TravellerTinker it doesn’t work in a street fight though and boxings just more cool to watch then wrestling

[@TravellerTinker]

@@Boxingsmart judo and wrestling is not the same

[@CharlesMonroe-fr4vx]

​@@mateopribyl9218I learnt this quite recently but Judo/sweeps/takedowns was heavily useful in ancient warfare when fighting multiple opponents because, well... if someone's on the ground then they're not a threat anymore. You don't have to put yourself on the ground, you'll still be standing upright and can move about and it's a quick 1 second interaction which will eliminate 1 of the group either for a short time or a long time (Judo on concrete is lethal). If your opponents aren't getting KO'd left and right with each punch you throw then very quick Judo sweeps will be more effective since Concrete floor is more effective than a punch and quick sweeps are almost as fast.

[@averagezyzzenjoyer5630]

What people seem not to get is how hard jiujitsu is when your constantly being punched or kicked.

[@cameronwhittwrestling]

punches become less powerful though when ur on the ground of ur body weight is shifted. the boxing stance is not very good at protecting against weight shift

[@carlbjorling6058]

Mate, a striker who has no take down defense would be taken down ridiculously easy by a BJJ guy.

[@C0d0ps]

@@lujitsu1251 This is assuming you train bjj with strikes involved. Most people sit on their @ss in a gi. You can’t berimbolo on asphalt. Mma and Muay Thai is the best for self defense, bjj is just backup.

[@C0d0ps]

@@carlbjorling6058 Assuming they train no gi then yes. In gi people just do not wrestle. - Getting good at double leg, single leg, high single leg, ankle pick, high ankle pick, low ankle pick. That is not gi training.

[@lujitsu1251]

@@C0d0ps mma. That stands for Mixed . I would want a mix of Many martial arts, ideally. I will rank them in order of precedent of what I think wins a fight one on one. 1- wrestling 2-Jiu Jitsu 3-judo 4- Mui tai 5-boxing

[@jesussotelo4775]

Im a bjj brown belt and even i wouldn't be stupid enough to underestimate a good striker.

[@kesenaememere8520]

facts.

[@keithhall8045]

Your humble I respect bbj never did it myself yet not sure if 31 too old to join tbh

[@Monkey45983]

@@keithhall8045im 15 my dad is 38 we both been doing it for about 2 months ur not too old to join

[@mynameisjeff6988]

@@keithhall8045Go and join, you’ll regret not starting sooner

[@rashadwoods1269]

​@@keithhall8045 Not even close to being too old man. Find a good school, coach and you'll be good. I started at 38 after 15 years of karate (Tang Soo Do) and TKD. Any, ANY style in someone dedicated to their craft is dangerous. And your area of expertise can be neutralized by someone who knows what to counter you with.

[@MyDk2009]

This guy is the one that will try to pull guard on concrete with his "super power".

[@ballshippin3809]

And will also complain about a "d*ck move" when he's not able to counter your attack

[@EnriquePerez-u1s]

boxing isnt really as effective for average people training it so idk why yall think your some elite high level boxers that can generate enough power to one shot ko people or have mayweathers speed and defense when your average ass is basically slightly better than some who isnt skilled but faster and stronger just buy a gun to protect yourself or run if you cant run then boxing OR bjj should do the job in a 1v1 1v1+ scenarios unless you have a gun your fucked and dont even think your gonna one shot ko people when in reality your just gonna break your hand and get destroyed unless your punches are like francis ngannou or your very skilled under large amounts of pressure which even trained boxers are gonna struggle with and bjj in 1v1+ is useless so basically just run in those scenarios

[@Archone666]

I was in a streetfight as a teenager with a wrestler who decided to take it to the ground... and by "streetfight" I mean "in a parking lot." In July. I didn't take any damage from anything he did. I DID take some damage from the hot asphalt burning my shoulder. Meanwhile, he took a fair bit of damage to his face from what I was doing to him.

[@MyDk2009]

@@Archone666 You took some and definitely gave some back. Good for you.

[@tas4u93]

@@EnriquePerez-u1s even a basic punch landed the right way can knock someone out. Its way easier to forget how to hump your opponent the right way to make him caress you as the safety word

[@matthewmontalvo5066]

this dude must have never been a fist fight

[@Vladimir66616]

I’ve subbed every boxer at my gym lol as a blue belt

[@winybiny]

@@Vladimir66616 probably because they weren't trying to knock you out.

[@williamsmith8790]

It’s situationally dependent. Just like anything else.

[@jumbothompson]

Absolutely. That's what people don't seem to understand. A wrestler beats a boxer 8/10 times in a ring or on a mat. But does that make wrestling a better form of self defense. Not necessarily. In reality you want to be able to both wrestle and box.

[@BWater-yq3jx]

Go outside & practise shooting takedowns on concrete.

[@williamsmith8790]

@@BWater-yq3jx What would that have to do with boxing?

[@LS-fd6tl]

​@@jumbothompsonimagine a wrestler taking you down on slamming you on concrete! 😮

[@jumbothompson]

@@LS-fd6tl I can imagine . It would suck.

[@ryanking3634]

A boxer without jiu-jitsu will do better than a jiu-jitsu guy without boxing

[@kesenaememere8520]

facts better footwork, that could help you withdraw from a fight.

[@YhuriAndrei]

Doing both could help, Boxing+Judo is a good combination too

[@agookchild]

100% agree I’m so disappointed that most Bjj schools now (9 out of 10) don’t have wrestling as a requirement in their curriculum. You can watch these backyard mma fights where Bjj black belts get lit up by a kickboxer with minimal wrestling. 😢

[@scd881]

On the street yes

[@Cobracouncil]

That is my point

[@danielfox3399]

"Everyone has a plan, until it punches you in the face" ~Mike Tyson

[@yurifrommw215]

Lol

[@jackiechun5817]

THEN when you're staggered from the face punch... it's time to lock down on them ears(like a buffet👀),homie🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯💪🏾🧔🏾‍♂️

[@im_that_guy]

Wow, so profound. Never heard this quote repeated like 1000000 times

[@mcfarlanect]

@@jackiechun5817 ROFL. NOM NOM NOM!

[@erosthespacesoldier1712]

A woman who quotes boxers... awesome!

[@myjobistoshootfire7703]

One punch from Mr. Tyson and the career is over for any BJJ artist.

[@MrCmon113]

Not what we see in reality.

[@gojiyfan7008]

​@@MrCmon113correction not what YOU see in reality.

[@Ryan30z]

Grappling has proven to be extremely effective, but God damn is BJJ culty.

[@l3loodforpride426]

Like karate and Kung fu was lol its getting creepy 😂😂😂

[@johnathanadams3632]

karate and kung fu are still culty lol just not as popular as they used to be @@l3loodforpride426

[@Superpig500]

​@l3loodforpride426 there is weird people in any kind of discipline but most people in all martial arts are just there for a workout or some recreational activity

[@cameronforbes2649]

yeah it's this generations Karate. I'm a purple belt, so I'm not against BJJ, but most training lacks any real context and has become too much of a sport. Self defense BJJ is almost as bad as the sport stuff. I've been fortunate enough to find a good Judo place and have switched over the past year or so. I think it's a much better use of my time, and far less ego.

[@SeraphsWitness]

​@@cameronforbes2649except karate is a joke in the MMA world. Nothing is going to be the best solo compared to mixing systems, but if you had to pick, BJJ is the clear winner. There's a reason it's the #1 most trained across MMA tournaments. Karate never was and never will be.

[@NSB25445]

I'm glad Joe shuts BJJ nerds up.

[@what9plus10_]

joe is a bjj black belt and bjj guys would frick a boxer in a fight 9 times out of 10

[@reubinthomas]

Yeah. Joe is a no nonsense guy. He is truly a mixed martial artist. He has learned many disciplines and absorbed the good out of all of them.

[@SmokyOle]

Joe got the whole obsession with BJJ started talking about it everyday

[@NSB25445]

​@@SmokyOlebut he's not delusional about it, even though bjj is very effective on the ground, he knows that a BJJ guy will get his ass handed to him by a striker. BJJ is useless on it's own. Boxing isn't.

[@Artaxerxes.]

He's a big bjj dickrider himself.

[@kvas6255]

Grapplers thinking they could beat strikers on the street is hilarious. Do both, both is good.

[@Aristotle111]

Grapplers do win . But boxing is harder to get good at then bjj so I suggest boxers if you’re doing it for self defense then start rolling 3 X a week it’s fun it’s not really any fear involved there are doctors and lawyers at every bjj gym if you crazy enough to spar multiple times a week then bjj a cake walk

[@King-oj8hr]

@@Aristotle111😂🤦🏽‍♂️ what

[@pryncetheking5680]

@@Aristotle111 what are you even saying😑

[@danieldowney7692]

@@Aristotle111huh?

[@Aristotle111]

@@danieldowney7692 are y’all illiterate or what ?? I’m saying guys like doctors and lawyers practice jiu jitstu so obviously it’s not that dangerous to practice you wouldn’t catch those type of guys at a boxing gym. It takes balls to spar so if you are boxing regularly why wouldn’t you be going to a Jiu jitstu class 3 times a week to make yourself even more dangerous ? Cause it shouldn’t be fear stopping you and jiu jitstu is very important in the streets .

[@callmeacutekitten8106]

I swear grapplers think they gonna win every fight until they get knocked out

[@BugVall]

If youre grappling on the street, what stops the other guy from pulling a knife and planting it into you? Boxing gives you the distance to potentially run away, which is the best self defense tactic ever

[@KrikZ32]

just carry a gun, then you can beat brock lesnar in a fight

[@LS-fd6tl]

Do you know how hard it would be to reach into your pocket and grab a weapon while getting choked, strangled or armbarred? Even if you did somehow manage the feat, you would struggle to plunge the weapon with the same velocity that you would whilst standing - so it would be a lot easier to grab that wrist tha it would if you were standing

[@hananokuni2580]

Disarm the guy first. Knives can be thrown.

[@fdevaa]

​@@LS-fd6tllol what if the guy is standing 6 feet away from you?

[@LS-fd6tl]

@@fdevaa what do mean mate? Like in a 1 on 1?

[@MZ-zu7wk]

People need to stop this notion that boxing is useless in "a real fight". Boxing requires INSANE conditioning, reflexes, power, precision, speed, and aggression. These men are in supreme condition, and are literally trained to strike with the most powerful, precise, and effective punches that one can possibly throw in combination. Fighting a boxer in a street fight is a good way to get knocked unconscious fast. All they need to do is slip your first punch and land a hook and its lights out. They won't even break a sweat.

[@deeznutz8320]

Look up the footage of the Russian boxer knocking out 3 in a row at a club after being attacked

[@whiteflame24]

Boxing and wrestling are definitively the best skills you can have in a street fight bar none. Anyone that says anything else is just delusional.

[@pietromacarovpierremac4908]

Yes a very good boxer who have some years of training is a killer indeed. But we all know the best are guys that can decently mix punchs, kicks, grappling, wrestling. Well MMA or sambo by exemple. Because they're not expert in one thing but can perfectly mix the whole thing. In real life you d'nt have the space, your not facing like in sparring, there is sucker punch it can come from the back with few space and you can't throw punch decently.

[@publiusthefederalist6843]

i feel like you need both to win street fights bjj may be gay, but pulling guard is actually really effective and there's nothing the boxer can do to prepare for that situation except practice bjj however as soon as you teach the boxer basic bjj, the bjj guy who doesn't box is screwed because now the boxer can get in his guard and maybe even pass it while throwing punches and not getting arm bared in half a second. unlike ufc, there's no ref to stop the between rounds, and you aren't on canvas you are likely on pavement, so you are going to just keep getting punched until you are unconsious so yea, i think martial arts should be treated as a sport, i don't get this obsession mma guys have with who would win in a street fight, but if someone is practicing them for self defense and street fights, I say do some muy thai just to learn to defend against elbows and kicks, wrestle to learn to sprawl and avoid takedowns, bjj just to learn how to fight in the guard, but most of all box so that when its all said and done and you know how to avoid all the gay shit like guard pulling and karate kicks/elbows (except wrestling, wrestling isn't gay all them suplexes and throws are cool), you are able to punch tf out of them while they try to rely on their "martial arts" to save them

[@pietromacarovpierremac4908]

@@publiusthefederalist6843 well i feel it's more a boxing, a jiujitsu or a muay thaï stuff to compare who is the best. MMA guys know you Can be fucked by all of that! I don't do specificaly grappling or jiujitsu but i think you underestimate two facts : punching in thé floor IS harder than you think ang grappling IS unbelievably tough and physic. And Being choke is efficient.

[@doloinc]

Will never forget the day a BJJ guy wanted to prove he could take our Muay Thai teacher down. Dude tried but couldn't get anywhere; even smashed his face (unintentionally) into Ajarn's knee trying a double leg. Funny thing was Ajarn Kham NEVER hit anyone in the years I trained with him, to include all the people that came to challenge him. His defense was impeccable and he didn't believe in hurting anyone, be they students or challengers. People basically hurt themselves trying to get a strike on him (while he laughed and joked ) because his shins and forearms were as hard as telephone poles, and he was literally built like a tank for most of his life; even well into his 60s. I can only imagine what would have happened to people, particularly the grapplers, if he decided to go on the offensive. Much love to Ajarn Kham.

[@Wavyso]

No shit bjj guys suck at takedowns. If it was a college wrestler your coach would be down on the ground

[@SN0WG00NS]

ask rodtang what happened

[@silverfox8801]

@@SN0WG00NS😂

[@JoshAllenberg]

BJJ guys don't know just how slow they are on the feet. Some random drunk dude definitely doesn't know how to keep his hips away, so using that as an example of getting a takedown in a fight is pretty stupid. Everyone from the BJJ class at my gym had such slow footwork that I almost guarantee you had to WANT to grapple to get taken down by them

[@ancientdarkness3102]

​@@SN0WG00NSyeah coz rodtang fought his mma round against an absolute nobody, right? Oh maybe not, he fought one of the Best mma Fighters ever who is also a good grappler

[@bradsanders407]

Wrestlers and grapplers always crack me up when they say they could easily beat a boxer. They seem to forget in order for a take down you have to drop you hands and lower your head. 2 things that are huge no nos' in boxing.

[@ginoe987]

No matter how good your BJJ is, you'd still have to: 1. Get close to your opponent without getting knocked out 2. Take him to the ground without getting knocked out 3. Get into an advantageous position without getting knocked out 4. Realize your opponent can STILL knock you the fuck out somewhere around steps 1 to 5

[@Marrow040]

Eh you’re right in the first half but when on the ground you don’t have to worry about getting knocked out. When on the ground bjj has full advantage but getting the fight to the ground is the real challenge

[@Titan-so1kh]

It’s very simple honestly. You come in and as soon as he throws a punch you go for double leg takedown, mount and ground and pound, it’s pretty much wraps after that. Done it a couple times to ppl who don’t know how to wrestle.

[@Migoladon]

⁠@@Marrow040so in a street fight you dropping straight to the ground ? 😭

[@Marrow040]

@@Migoladon Well no, in a street fight you run like hell

[@martinmere1999]

​@@Titan-so1kh I know it is possible to pull it out but your opponent could bend his knees to get lower and very beautifully give you an uppercut or an hook or simply step back. You moving right in into his punch. Better you should try to got behind him or on the side where his front leg is.

[@headbobgunpants4858]

Gets smacked in the face: "no, not like that, throw a punch like this"

[@michaeltucker1860]

As someone who has trained BJJ; I feel as a lot of people forget that BJJ is not fighting. If there are not strikes being thrown…you’re in a submission match, not a fight.

[@Italian_goober]

FINALLY ANOTHER PERSON GETS IT. People also shit talk Krav Maga saying it’s a bad martial art. BECAUSE ITS NOT. It teaches you to hit people in the balls and hit the bridge of the nose with your phone. You can’t compare the two because they aren’t the same thing. I also do bjj and would much rather be kicking somebody in the balls and running than getting myself on the ground for other people to use a weapon and hurt me

[@Asoka-eb8ru]

However in a real situation about 95% of fights end on the ground so either submission wrestling or bjj will work, of course like the video says it helps to know how to box. I did MMA which is closest thing to a real fight.

[@nikes4444]

@@Italian_gooberof course genius, but what happens if you fall on the ground ?

[@nikes4444]

@@Italian_gooberso by that logic other people can jump in the fight with knifes while you’re trying to hit him with the edge of your phone right?

[@mr.tomatohead3709]

​@@Italian_gooberthe reason Krav Maga is bad is because you can't do sparring with it, there's also nothing stopping a boxer or kickboxer with much better tuned reflexes from kicking in the groin or eye gouging when they also have a lot more fighting experience, same for jiu jitsu and wrestling, both can just get on top of you and turn you into a vegetable

[@rhythmtreble7311]

"Walking in the park is useless i can just ride my bike" boxing is an art and nobody will regret learning some

[@tonypaella]

This is the first time I've seen Joe Rogan make sense in regards to bjj vs striking.

[@ScientificAdvisortotheDefenceM]

who tf are you to say whether joe is right or wrong. he's a lifelong martial artist, done taekwondo and bjj, striking and grappling. commentates ufc too. he definitely knows what he's talking about.

[@tonypaella]

@@ScientificAdvisortotheDefenceM OK first of all relax. And I didn't say he was right or wrong. I said he made sense and it's the first time for me to see that. I will elaborate, so that you understand my point and calm down. Very often he comes across as a BJJ nutswinger, talking about it like it's some kind of bullet proof superpower, a trait only BJJ players seem to have. It's not a superpower and in this video he comes across way more balanced. And you don't know my background, therefore you are in no position to question whether I know what I'm talking about or not.

[@sp1r1tcrsh3r]

​@@tonypaellaI was about to defend you but nevermind, del us ion al

[@tonypaella]

@@sp1r1tcrsh3r I don't need to be defended. It's a comments section under a KZbin video, not the front lines dude. It's differing opinions, that's all.

[@bmsuperstar1]

Yeah. That's why he said Rhonda Rousey can beat male fighters. Ya know, right before she got her ass HANDED to her by Holly Holm, a female fighter who can't fight men. Not to mention what happened afterwards, with Amanda Nunes. That's was just a massacre. Joe also said that boxers are harmless compared to MMA guys, but he was so mortally terrified of Mike Tyson that he built a bigger table, so that Mike can't get to him before he escapes. I was like, why are you scared? You can just kick him in the leg and he'd be done. Joe doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time.

[@simonevans5562]

I bet when he street fights, he lays on his back and pulls guard. And the other guy is just standing there like wtf lol.

[@daivonclark5151]

Then he says "put it in me" 😂😂😂

[@Urmomma5f4t]

I bet he doesn’t and would probably put you to sleep in a “street fight”. You literally don’t train if that’s what you think people with half a brain would do. There’s a lot of videos of BJJ guys fighting and yet outside of the UFC I don’t see any of them pulling guard. It’s almost as if they don’t do that in the real world situations 🤔

[@pupper5580]

I just imagine a bjj pulling guard and then some drunk guy whos on neithers side just coming and soccer kicking him to hospital

[@humann5682]

​@@Urmomma5f4tBJJ "self defence videos" are 99% BS though. They are just BJJ guys actually acting like assholes. It's usually a verbal argument, not physical, between BJJ guy and someone clearly drunk or mentally ill, then the BJJ guy slaps on a chokehold without physical provocation. Anything will work of you do it do someone who isn't even attacking you and you hurt them first. Christ Aukido would probably work vs someone not doing anything. It's just a dick move by insecure BJJ asshats who want to try what they learned on a vulnerable person so they can see if the $250 a month they pay is worth anything. It's reeks of insecurity and bully boy tactics, and it's not reflective of actual fighting.

[@Superpig500]

Why are adults street fighting? 😅 there is no good reason to street fight once over the age of 18

[@johnmcbruce215]

That first sentence translates to me as: I got worked until I get frustrated when I box 😂😂😂

[@bettybunbun9664]

Sometimes when I'm doing BJJ and I'm shrimping around on the ground I'm like "Wtf am I doing? Is this even fighting? 😅"

[@MrCmon113]

Shrimping is the bjj version of the speedbag.

[@lltempire3719]

100% of fights include hands thrown, know your boxing

[@philh2932]

Not true. Plenty of fights are just shoving matches.

[@Dc-kk9bd]

Wrong. I saw a guy put his hands up and get kicked in the gut and immediately went down. No hands were thrown. I've also seen people get choked out without ever throwing a ounch

[@jasondavis1615]

If you can't box, you can't fight.

[@dethdaemon]

Not true, let's not take it the other way 😂 If you lack 1 aspect of fighting, then you lack that aspect. If you're an olympic level wrestler, ofc you can fight without boxing, don't be dense

[@jasondavis1615]

@@dethdaemon I didn't come up with it, it's an old saying, and it is true. Don't be silly.

[@Diddyty_MMA]

So why James Toney can't beat Randy Couture? Uh uh don't mention Tim Sylvia he's the most overrated and most douchebag UFC champ of all time, ​@@dethdaemon

[@bahj3758]

@@Diddyty_MMA maybe bc Randy Couture can box?

[@oakHellberg]

FIGHT at top level? Or fight 99 percent of the people in the street. Becouse I'm pretty sure Alexander Karelin would be able to "fight" 99.9999 percent of all people with wrestling. He had about 500 straight wins 🏆 and Competed at 140 kg bodyweight. But back to the track: When can a person fight according to you? Becouse I'm also pretty sure that a Taekwondo champion also can beat 99.99999 percent of the people on earth with just kicks... When is a man a a fighter (Kickboxer asking)

[@read.learn.think.3251]

Going to ground is the LAST thing you should do in a street fight.

[@kesenaememere8520]

facts.

[@laurenzb.1919]

Well that's not what bjj is. You just pick them up and slam them. That's it.

[@scd881]

What kind of bjj school do u go too? 🤣

[@read.learn.think.3251]

@scd881 the one that taught me that in street fights, there are no soft mats, no rules & that if you end up on the ground you can't retreat & it is almost certain that you will be kicked in the head (or chocked out by some BJJ nut case). You must ALWAYS stay on your feet.

[@davidegaruti2582]

Yup , so sumo it is ... What ? Boxers don't train against ground and pound ... Sumo guys lose if they go there , so they train to stand up ... And you're not pretending to stand up against one of them are you ?

[@primetimegametime7831]

Martial Arts is Not a super power, it’s a gift and a privilege to use as a self defense

[@DirectorHMAN]

"Everyone has a face until they get punched in the plan" - mike tyson

[@Scorpion-pm7lv]

💀

[@TheSoulBlossom]

Fathe*

[@JUSTREGULARSCREAMINGAAHH]

You didn't even get the overused comment right

[@lainhikaru5657]

That's Tike Myson

[@Shadow-bs1iu]

😂

[@lukepower743]

Most people that do bjj are lifetime hobbyists like myself. Yes Gordan Ryan will snap most humans in half but when it comes to the 99% of the every day man - a smack in the nose is going to really mess up the idea of bjj super power where they train with no concept of getting hit. It’s a great tool to have and know and it is a super power but violence is violent and random which really messes up your idea of what works

[@thatpersiandude7386]

Real talk, Even a bjj black belt could absolutely get clapped by 2 average guys in a street fight. Can’t say that about strickers

[@lukepower743]

@@thatpersiandude7386100% bro agreed

[@mattball7074]

I agree with this

[@akaInfamous]

​@@thatpersiandude7386 if you genuinely think that. You have never trained bjj.

[@Zendvious]

​@@akaInfamoushave You ever seen what a glass bottle or a brick does to a human face? The moment You grab My buddy to choke him i'll break your skull and that's it The streets ain't a bjj gym where You behave like grandmas that smoke pot all day

[@BWater-yq3jx]

If you're a nerd who took up BJJ because you heard it was a 'superpower', and have never fought on hard ground against a good striker who really wants to hurt you... well I'm gonna suggest that won't go like you hoped.

[@pupper5580]

Joe talking endlessly about "130 lb nerds in bjj being killers". I bet he made a lot of nerds get into bjj. And I bet he made a lot of nerds get stomped in a street fight because of it.

[@razorsmash29]

@@pupper5580I would stomp both of you lmao all u keyboard warriors who never even boxed or did any sport think u have a say in this💀

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

Yea probably, but thats their lives. I was taught from young that BJJ is a trap. Generally a fight is not going to be fair and the LAST THING ON EARTH you want to do.. is go to the ground. @@pupper5580

[@pogchungus]

Every fight I've been in has started on my feet, and been quickly ended with some quick joint manipulation and then a slam. Just looked at tidbits of different martial arts, with Wing Chun mostly in mind for stand up fighting. I've really only used wing chun to get in position to break a finger, wrist, or elbow, not to strike all that much. Boxing seems incredibly mundane as an art itself, it's like a woman getting the barcode bangs haircut; even if she can pull it off, there's something else that would work much better for her.

[@Rjbatz22567]

It depends on the individual, there’s nerds in boxing that could whop some ass.

[@christophernewton8474]

Got my orange belt in Judo when I was 10, came second in a regional tournament, but never really felt confident fighting until I learned some basic boxing. There is no superpower martial art, you just gotta train hard and stay well rounded.

[@External_XS]

If you can box and have takedown defense. You will destroy a grappler in a fight🤷🏾‍♂️

[@person4585]

a pure ground grappler, yeah, a wrestler is a lot more of a threat

[@fireandiron4181]

You say “Have takedown defense” as if that’s such a easy thing to have. It will take you YEARS of training just to have the ability to not instantly go airborne within a second of stepping in arms reach of a Judo black belt.

[@External_XS]

@@fireandiron4181 "stepping in arms reach of a Judo black belt." A Kick boxer's main tool in tool in his arsenal is his reach. I've done judo myself and let me tell you judos aren't explosive what they are, are opportunity takers. If you even slip up for a moment it's wraps, but at the same time they lack what's essential and that's explosive power something wrestlers have. That is why imo you should focus on 1 primary martial art, while learning the basis of the others.

[@fireandiron4181]

@@External_XS Judokas are like that against other Judokas who know the game. Go watch some videos of Judokas in street fights and watch people get dropped on their skulls within 5 seconds of the altercation happening. Matter of fact, spar with a black belt Judoka and tell him to not go easy on you.

[@External_XS]

"Go watch some videos of Judokas in street fights and watch people get dropped on their skulls within 5 seconds of the altercation happening. " Because those are people who aren't well versed in the art? I took judo for a year, and have spoke to black belts and have deduced that judo is mostly for closed environments or areas you know you can close the gap in. Judo is also more close ranged, as a striker I would never rush in. You would gauge the distance something that judoka isn't made for. Also why would I spar with a judoka this is a street fight scenario? If I'm sparring with one, I would be on their playing field. And it also depends on where we're fighting, If we're in a closed scenario the odds don't favor me as much. But if I'm in the open street, I'm very confident I can pull off the win.@@fireandiron4181

[@peted7891]

The top 10 fastest wins in UFC history have never been submissions. Just saying.

[@kethankatim6008]

Yea because you start in your feet 😂

[@bobross4616]

Well, yeah. Knocking someone out is obviously going to be fastest on your feet. And getting your opponent on the ground, and submitting is obviously a process. Just look at MMA(UFC), it’s pretty close to real fighting. Who are the goats? In the lighter weight divisions Khabib, Mighty Mouse, and GSP are all grapplers, wrestlers and BJJ fighters predominately. The middle weight goat is Anderson Silva who was very well versed still on his ground game: the light heavy weight goat is Jon Jones an Olympic wrestler originally. Boxers aren’t the best fighters in the world. Boxing is solid, but it’s no longer the best definitively…:

[@cheesybeast1721]

Go look at prime Ronda rousey buddy 😂

[@allenchang6185]

That doesn’t prove pure strikers beats pure grapplers in a 1v1 match, it’s not a race

[@Zugzzzwang]

@@kethankatim6008 i think basically all fights start on the feet lol

[@romesrepublic]

Most fights start on the feet. A lot of BJJ guys forget that. Also, most BJJ students don't practice take downs, more importantly, takedowns against opponents throwing punches, kicks, or knees.

[@Akz2Reckless]

Lowkey would like to see Terrence Crawford do an MMA match

[@Todo_fighting]

Too old for high level, but imagen if he started mma in his early 20s as talented as he is and than base of wrestling and boxing.

[@lurchorum]

Maybe. Mighty Mouse said he'd fight him.

[@yousef-asem2001]

bjj feels like a superpower untill the other guy starts slapping the shit out of you😂😂 while trying to put him in a triangle shock

[@allenchang6185]

Slapping won’t stop a guy putting you in a triangle choke, or stop a takedown…

[@JayMade_]

@@allenchang6185lmfaoo😭bro dosent know how fights work

[@TFB97]

Love Joes response put him in his place lol.

[@BillyBob-tr3jr]

Its almost like UFC solved this problem years ago, the answer is train MMA, kicking, punching, clenching/takedowns, grappling, all have their place.

[@Dr.KarenMarsh]

Everyone has a plan until I fall on my back like a crab and wait for you to engage.

[@redberries8039]

football kicks

[@SBrown-ti8xe]

I will literally call you a nerd and walk away.

[@Zendvious]

Have You ever seen what a 1lbs+ rock/Brock/piece of concrete can do to a human face? Because i've seen it and that's why bjj is F useless in the streets

[@StrengthScholar0]

That's going to be incredibly useful when somebody is attacking your wife or kids.

[@tomjordan6092]

everybody that has commented whoosh

[@coreyh7323]

I know an 80 year old that spared with Ali. He can still F... people up. He trains and instructs every day. He took on 3 teen bullies and when the cops looked this white-haired old man and these 3 17-18 year old teens on the ground holding their faces they started laughing their **ses off. Bjj has its place, but not 3 v 1

[@Marashm]

“Everyone has a plan.. till he gets punched in the nose 👃 🩸 😴 “ - Mike Tyson

[@FR-ty5vn]

“…in the face.”

[@_davidboxing]

🤦🏽‍♂️ how you gon’ quote someone wrong so confidently

[@Marashm]

@@_davidboxing😂 remix

[@shanebodnar9861]

You aren’t Mike Tyson lol. A blue belt or higher would submit you in 10 seconds

[@Marashm]

@@shanebodnar9861you’d have to get close enough to attempt. But believe you’ll eat 2-4 strikes that might make your legs feel like soup 🍜

[@tomfurey9062]

That definitely felt like the talk of a man who hasnt been in a real fight and hasn't been punched in the face.

[@graywolfgaming2722]

As a guy who trains in BJJ and grappling regularly, Rogan is right about this

[@kourtneyhanley]

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face

[@thereplay5929]

A simple jab disrupts any game plan whether it involves wrestling or any other form of martial arts. The jab throws your timing off, makes you lose sight of your target and before you know it, a guy like Bud, could follow up with a hook, uppercut or a straight shot.

[@andrebryant5081]

Yep and if the jab has power it makes people second guess their wrestling plan because it hurts

[@V12509]

Man I swear these people only talk out of their a55es. Never been in any gym whatsoever, even the ones claiming they train are liars. A 38 years old alcoholic that I sit with occasionally in the bar in summers was passive aggressive with me because I box, telling me how grappling is ALWAYS better and MMA is always better. B1tch I can fold your 1.65cm 55kg with a jab… There are no absolutes, but boxing gives you a huge advantage, I’m not even the biggest puncher but I can make people step back from my jab alone in sparring (not even close to a full power jab). I one time made someone who outweighs me with 15kg and 5cm taller run away after I jabbed his teeth in (I only got a suture that healed in 2 weeks, he couldn’t chew properly for 2 weeks and I actually worried that I might’ve broken his teeth but fortunately I did not).

[@rumblerock5620]

NOPE, a jab won't be effective against a double leg takedown.

[@hmmm4784]

@@rumblerock5620Every fight starts standing up. You dive and And the boxer uppercuts

[@davidegaruti2582]

​@@hmmm4784yeah as we know boxers famously defend double leg takedowns in mma ... Oh wait , they get folded like chumps ... Also what is your plan if the guy clinches you in ? Wait for the referee to break it up ? Or wait for the guy to sweep you ?

[@fofao681]

Getting a quick 3 peace ,one to the nose eye and chin without gloves will make you reconsider trying to grab,it's amazing how many dudes back down once you hit them with a quick accurate jab without gloves in a fight ,it makes them realise the difference in speed and power.

[@totenfurwotan4478]

Exactly a nice sharp cross can really change someone’s tune when it slips their mount open

[@cansifertharan6611]

If you have the training advantage, you can do anything you want and still win lol

[@fofao681]

@@totenfurwotan4478 facts ,the thing people that never ,sparred in boxing or any other form of striking and only did like bjj judo or wrestling think they are fast enough or have the skills to to slip punches and get to you, or think they can take the power from someone that knows the mechanics of throwing shots.

[@williamhofman7844]

Youve never been in a fight. Shut up.

[@critcal]

​@@fofao681you do both wrestling and boxing i never wanna fight you. Not only can you beat my ass standing you can break my neck with a slam after.

[@stuff485]

I love how Joe always gives the reality check. Truth is you should train both. Ironically I only train bjj but I have tight schedule so if I only get to do one I definatly go bjj.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

Not needed unless you wanna compete in MMA

[@ryantogo8359]

​@@dragonballjiujitsuwrong, bjj nerd

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

@@ryantogo8359 Yep, 23 years Gracie Jiu-jitsu and 30 years Muay thai.

[@Forexking222]

Bro literally having good hands is the best superpower. Nothing more badass than knowing how to put knuckles on peoples chin

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

Unless you face a good grappler and can't get up. lol

[@GIN.356.A]

My super power is called "Beretta 92".

[@nicoleowens2318]

Actually, the most badass thing is avoiding a fight through diplomacy 😊

[@GIN.356.A]

@@nicoleowens2318 yeah, but it gets pretty awkward when someone get a mouthful of knuckles before they get to their point. Not everyone can be reasoned with, but everyone can feel pain.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

@@nicoleowens2318 Agreed.

[@pongopea]

I love when Joe gives people these wake up calls right to their faces

[@MrFraiche]

The best combo is: Boxing for hands and slipping, Muai Thai for kicks and BJJ for grappling.

[@saferabies]

Everyone has a plan till they get popped in the mouth.

[@gobdor4579]

Could say the same thing about tasting pavement

[@Brawler22100]

Say that to a wrestler lol

[@micaylapresley]

Every boxer has a plan until they get taken down.

[@0326Vet]

​@@micaylapresleyevery bjj guy has a plan till he eats an elbow to the head against concrete.......

[@rzrwiresunrise]

Holly Holm beat TF out of Ronda Rousey

[@Cheatersmasher82]

Great example but there are examples of bbj or wrestling winning but in general striking is superior.

[@badz4855]

Randy couture beat james tony, what’s ur point ?

[@paulobyrne8584]

Rhonda tried to stand with holm her big mistake was believing everyone telling her she had good boxing

[@Cheatersmasher82]

@@paulobyrne8584 this is very true I won't argue that but that also emphasized my point as did your statement lol.she stood a bbj fighter with a decent boxer she got wrecked I can't remember if Ronda did try and fail to take her down.but I do remember her getting bashed up and then there was Nunez the less said about that in the case of bbj the better lol

[@stevejamieson8468]

Holly had excellent takedown defense and had the overall game to shut down Ronda, she even took Ronda down.

[@RandomGuy42016]

Imagine trying to fight a guy and he lays down for you. 😂

[@angryktulhu]

yeah that's super gay...remember, you can't say BJJ without saying BJ :D

[@dirkdiggler2379]

they pull guard and kicked in the head lol

[@Adamjames175]

@@dirkdiggler2379 Good luck grabbing a guy when you’re getting punch in the face 15 times in 5 seconds. People really think you can just walk up to a boxer and grab them. Like Joe said a boxer can mess you up before you can even get close enough to grab them. What do they think will happen. The boxer to just stand there and do nothing 😂. As soon as these wrestlers and bjj guy try and get close they will get hit 10-15 times before they can even realize what’s happening. And wrestlers and bjj guys don’t get punched in the face so they don’t know how to take a shot. Boxer are used to getting hit.

[@dirkdiggler2379]

@@Adamjames175 lol i agree, BJJ guys are lazy they just pull guard. And before they go to the ground they leave their arms out trying to grab your Gi/shirt. lmfao!!

[@YouTubeistheworst]

Can't grapple if you're unconscious

[@johnsxn661]

I hate all these wrestlers and ju-jitsu guys trying to discredit boxing. Who in the right mind would take someone down in the street. Rules change, weapons and you could get jumped etc… boxing is far superior for real word fighting as you stay on your feet your balanced and ready to move and run if necessary. Even kicks are dodgy and you give up balance, expend a lot of energy and if you miss your completely open to be hit. Ju-jitsu and mma and all that are great like in 1 on 1 fights if their good enough they could fuck up most people but you can’t guarantee these conditions in a real fight.

[@baseballproyo]

Boxers never differentiate between self defence and a street fight. Sure there is a lot of overlap but the important difference is that a street fight is voluntary. Obviously in a street fight where two guys square up it makes no sense to use BJJ. However BJJ is much more useful when someone grabs or tackles you from behind. Boxers also seem to think that every street altercation is a superhero movie. The villain will snap his fingers and his goons appear and they take turns trying to knock you out giving you enough time to fight each one individually. In reality 5 guys will swarm in at once most likely from all angles and break your skull from behind making your boxing skills as useless as BJJ.

[@johnsxn661]

@@baseballproyo na that’s fair but I’d rather have boxing than bjj as you do learn about clinches so you can break out of them and proper head and arm positions. But if your rushed by 5 guys at once if you can get two good shots off on one and circle to the side of them then you stand a greater chance than having only bjj and not having the ability to punch one clean and correctly so you can create a bit of shock and room for yourself. It’s all situational dependant but I just think staying on your feet and having boxing gives you the highest probability of being able to escape or at least limit damage you would take.

[@92pittsburgsteelers]

This why mma is king aspects of every style

[@nathanbedfordforrest9546]

Grappling is nothing but clinching.

[@jessetorralba]

​@@johnsxn661what are you talking about there plenty of dudes who have knocked out multiple attackers in street fights , never seen a grappler submit 3 guys at the same time 😂 on cement at that haha you made zero sense , u thought u were making a point but you weren't bro

[@lawrenceberny4490]

Luis Gomez ain’t choking out shit but his chicken

[@eightiesbabynintiesmademe]

Lifelong boxer here that started jujitsu late in life. I have to say for me I got good at avoiding submissions, scrambling and getting back to my feet not necessarily stopping takedowns. Oh and that myth that a smaller wrestler would smash a bigger boxer easily was wrong in my case at least. I found I was strong and athletic enough to fight off high school level wrestlers that were smaller than me. Not being arrogant about that at all I was just pleasantly surprised because I had just bought into the common thinking that any wrestler at any size and skill level was supposed to smash me because I was just a boxer.

[@Uberkeko.]

Abesolutely, size matters in wrestling while I'd knock the shhht out anyone being middleweight boxer (not even pro) . But also boxing style is very important in order to beat a bigger guy. Maidana style is much more suited than billy joe saunders

[@MrKeeyt-jm3ji]

Kinda same. I’ve boxed since 6 I’m 28 now doing MMA. And I was quite surprised at how strong/athletic I was for guys my size that were wrestlers. They had the technique no doubt about it , but I was and am always able to “force the issue”. Make it not easy. On feet, my god, they squared up with their hands away from their face, my wet dream as a boxer 😂😂 so until they shoot or go for the clinch it’s a 1, 2 festival for quite a while and I can go from there

[@youngblackking3255]

This thought process will get you seriously hurt. Boxing is standing which is where the fight starts not grappling rolling around on the ground I like bjj but never say boxing is useless.

[@demetriuscooksey7147]

Joe's 100% correct. You gotta have a standing game AND a ground game against anyone who knows what they're doing.

[@conor7179]

Sports for self defence in order of effectiveness: 1. Sprinting (get away safe) 2. Boxing (fast jab, range, footwork for escapes) 3. Muay thai (if attackers get too close use elbows/knees) 4. Soccer (kick their legs out and sprint like a hyena) 5. Grappling (a last line of defence. Like a saftey harness for if you fall)

[@enriquemontanez445]

In real life situations boxing is more useful especially dealing with multiple people

[@thatboybear]

Who, in their right mind, WANTS to end up on the ground in a fight? Answer: dudes with a closet full of Affliction shirts. Mfs just delusional.

[@deeznutz8320]

Not too long ago a BJJ practioner attacked some random dude on the street fought him to the ground and tried to choke him Only to be stabbed in the stomach by the guy on the ground

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

You wont have a choice

[@i.c.wiener2750]

@@deeznutz8320 so? If you don't KO him as a boxer with the first punch he'll pull out the same knife and stab you lmao

[@noahoraporfavor2432]

@@i.c.wiener2750the boxer can keep the distance

[@erosthespacesoldier1712]

@@i.c.wiener2750 I'm betting you've had your lights put out by a boxer...

[@mrchubzdathird5449]

“I CAN’T LET YOU GET CLOSE!!!”-Chael Sonnen Undefeated Undisputed The man with the biggest arms the greatest charm and does all the harm

[@vulpineboriqua]

Old saying still holds true: 9/10 fights might end up on the ground, but 10/10 fights start standing up

[@abdurrahmanqureshi3030]

True but it implies that those 9 out of 10 fights ended by grappling

[@Makerzunite1415]

Remember, every combat martial art has wisdom behind them, that's why they work, no matter what type of style.

[@breadiusloafus5068]

I mean, a single good punch can knock someone out instantly.

[@macfrankist]

Nothing more tragic than a jujitsu guy trying to stubbornly get you down while you are too agile and their face is getting broken down.

[@i.c.wiener2750]

In Germany we say: Geschichten ausm Paulanergarten.

[@strangeman9362]

Yeah like when James toney got choked out by randy couture in the cage 😂

[@macfrankist]

@@strangeman9362 No like all the other cases that actually apply.

[@THISISLolesh]

BJJ is the martial art for dorks, we all know it.. Most of them would flinch and shell up like a beaten dog the second punches get thrown.

[@Dc-kk9bd]

I'd love to see you fight a black belt ur size in an MMA fight. U have 0 chance. Even if ur a top ranked boxer

[@THISISLolesh]

@@Dc-kk9bd cool bro, you liked your own comment.

[@Dc-kk9bd]

@@THISISLolesh i really didn't. But I will just to show you that I have 2 likes. Ur the one that liked your own comment

[@spacemann1425]

Go ahead, throw punches on a BJJ guy then. See what happens.