Pseudo-Wisdom Exposed: When Christians Botch Biology and the Bible

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey all, there was so much to cover here! can't believe I got to it all in 16 min. Hope you enjoy!

[@n.c.1201]

@@MindShift-Brandon I find so many people who don't care about what the Bible says, but pull crap outta their bums like the Bible is just a scrap book and God wants you to ART doodle all over it with these gravity defying birds and escargot. The references are very pretty and much more entertaining tha the Bible is, that's for sure. Not many people care about the Bible anymore-- hence why he didn't use a Bible and had it wrong and no one else called him out on it. I am sure that Off-Air they are laughing and don't care about anything except the income.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

@@n.c.1201 agree with everything till the last sentiment. its possible they are both grifters for sure, but ive simply seen too many christians who really do believe this blindly.

[@n.c.1201]

@@MindShift-Brandon Yes, I was not happy with my last sentence either...

[@tomsenior7405]

I am so glad you got round to this. Fish can fly (Exocoetidae) and birds can swim (Spheniscidae), therefore something, eggs, something god. It's Mental.

[@rokkitserjun]

Being in Oklahoma and seeing what the schools here produce I see where these guys get their simpleton ideas. Sadly, I really like Oklahoma, but it's rough having to deal with so many people having this level of thinking. I don't know what's scarier, that many grifters are leaders of the flock, or that the flock truly believes the grift.

[@hamobu]

Janko: fish swim while birds defy gravity Penguin: am I a joke to you?

[@alistairmackintosh9412]

Flying fish...

[@ZimmZutinZayai]

Birds are so gravity-defying, they rely on their wings and the atmospheric pressure of Earth for the creation of flight. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@johnmcgraw3568]

​@ZimmZutinZayai so when I jump that's not defying gravity? Gravity does win but for a split second I actively defied it. A bird and a airplane use thirst , drag and lift to defying gravity.

[@ZimmZutinZayai]

​@@johnmcgraw3568 Perhaps your meaning of "defy" is less pedantic than mine. In that case, sure. However, if birds could truly defy gravity, they'd have no use for atmospheric pressure.

[@nsbd90now]

@@johnmcgraw3568 Something about mass.... you aren't defying gravity, you are displaying a relationship among objects. All objects have some gravity, including your body. It just isn't strong gravity like a black hole has...

[@mcdopper]

"whooaah, the atom is like a solar system with the electrons orbiting the nucleus like the planets orbit the sun! So, God!" Whoooah... sounds like teens after their first joint.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol, if only the bible had any indication of a solar system ha!

[@vlastermaster]

LMAO

[@BluStarGalaxy]

It reminded me of the circle in that 70’s show. Guy: “I heard about this bird and it runs on water man!”

[@discontinuedmodel232]

@@MindShift-Brandon Wait - so stars CAN'T fall down to Earth? 😲 And the sun CAN'T hang in the sky longer to give Joshua more daylight to continue his successful battle? 😲 You really do learn something new every day, I guess.

[@pineapplepenumbra]

They sound like the ones who claim that because Laminin is shaped like a cross (in text books, anyway), that it's a sign that their gods designed us. However, someone pointed out that we are carbon based life forms, and carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons, so we must have been designed by Satan...

[@mattakudesu]

These guys were reaching so hard for a metaphor that I'm surprised we didn't hear their shoulders randomly dislocate during recording.

[@mens-body-my-choice]

😂

[@somexp12]

They could edit that sound out.

[@sauron69447]

The people going "whoaaa!!" In the first clip are the prefect representations of the vast majority of Christians, they don't stop to think & just blindly agrees with their pastors.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

EXACTLY!

[@tiburd7]

As Dan McClellan says, identity politics (aka groupthink).

[@rokkitserjun]

In any cult you will find a few charismatic charlatans guiding a flock of sheep who lack critical thinking skills. Sadly, with time and numbers, any cult can gain the legitimacy of becoming a 'Religion'.

[@dayd6383]

They have to if they are going to stick to their belief. Speaking from experience, the moment I stop n think about what is being said and what I am reading in the bible, is the moment my belief start to crumble.

[@sauron69447]

@dayd6383 thinking has always been the bane of belief. I'm glad you escaped from being indoctrinated.

[@danielsmith2447]

Holy mackerel, that conversation would have made me cringe even when I was a believer.

[@EarnestApostate]

The holy mackerel is made of water and can swim upstream...

[@pineapplepenumbra]

@@EarnestApostate The Holy Mackerel can levitate above water...

[@danielsmith2447]

@EarnestApostate ha! yes

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

definitely

[@MattWhite-vh6xh]

No neurons were hurt in the making of that video.

[@davidmgilbreath]

We are all dumber for having seen it though. They are awarded no points, and may god have mercy on their souls. 😓😂

[@phillprieto]

Mine were.

[@jaycrocker3812]

I believe they had none left to hurt?

[@KatMo7121]

Neglect is considered abuse!

[@sordidknifeparty]

Funny

[@ZanyCat]

Hey guys, I found a connection between ice cream and crime! Crime rates increase in the Summer, and ice cream sales also increase in the Summer, therefore ice cream causes crime! The ice cream represents how the morals of our society are melting! *mic drop*

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Lol!

[@judethree4405]

Whoa, bars…😂

[@KatMo7121]

If you used that in a video, you'd probably get a lot of "Whoa(s)" and views, lol!

[@BluStarGalaxy]

Provides new meaning for, “What would you do for a Klondike bar?”

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Whooooohh 🤯 All hail the great Neapolitan

[@Badficwriter]

My whole body cringed, watching those people. This is what happens when people think "doing their own research" is superior, without bothering with the hard work of scholarship.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

yup! indeed.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Its deeply embarrassing for em

[@JasonHenderson]

"doing your own research" aka listening to Christian podcasts

[@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV]

2:02 Was hilarious. Yeah, birds are totally defying gravity. They're just flapping those huge wings to throw us off. They don't actually need them to fly at all.😅

[@RichWoods23]

@@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV God just nudges them with his magic finger and they readily take to the air. (The birds left on the ground are stuck there until God has finished nudging all the nearby electrons along their ordained paths too.)

[@Warrior-re5fn]

I'm so glad you made this video. I have christian family who post this guys crap and anytime I try to explain how ridiculous it is they ignore and have a excuse to justify it. I feel you when you say you feel bad for christians who fall for it. Love ya Brandon you freaking rock bro.

[@NYKim_NY]

Most Christians barely know the new testament let alone the old. They have a vague overview, can quote half a dozen scriptures and refuse to entertain anything outside of the echo chamber. I watch you and I'm constantly saying "yes!" It's frustrating to be told "God's ways are higher than ours." That's code for "I refuse to listen to anything that challenges my belief." I was there once upon a time, so were you. Eventually a person who desires truth and understanding above everything else will start to question the inconsistencies and frankly the silliness of it all. Another great video thank you!!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

well put and thanks so much!

[@sharicox9937]

💯🎯🌿

[@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV]

The amount of Christians who don't even seem to know their God's name is mind numbing.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@NYKim_NY yes, like you it seems, I was too much in pursuit of truth and understanding to remain a Christian. In retrospect I feel a little bad for the pastors and elders I tormented with my youthful inquisitions. 😅

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@davidmgilbreath I don't! If they're meant to be some kind of expert on the subject, answering questions ought to be right up their alley.

[@TrevonFoxxx]

This was me back in youth church, man I really thought I was hitting deep, turns out I wasn’t even hitting anything 😂😂😂

[@MindShift-Brandon]

i cringe because it was also me, though at least more biblically accurate, but still the reaching!

[@TrevonFoxxx]

@@MindShift-Brandon lol exactly! Like Atleast get the verses right 💀

[@mitsukirobin]

They're all low hanging fruit at this point. You can find so many people who think their favorite evangelist is brilliant but there are rarely any new arguments that haven't been repeated for thousands of years. You do a great job dissecting any argument. Keep up the good work.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

hey thanks so much for that!

[@franciswalsh8416]

This is borderline unwatchable!!! I agree with you 100%. There is the constant affirming that convinces people that the Emperor is wearing splendid Garments!!

[@floccinaucinihilipilifications]

Sounded like a clip from a Beavis & Butt-head Bible Study.

[@michaelevans3942]

Good work Brandon. I have a very busy work life but these 15 minutes were worth every second of listening.

[@paulorr4896]

Favorite part. Regarding salmon, "Ye know what they do when they're done? THEY DIE!" Your delivery was perfect. 😆

[@FeliciaByNature]

birds don't defy gravity >:[ But these christians defy logic and reason that's for damn sure.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol, indeed.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Lucky all they need is faith. Yet they're constantly searching for more for some odd reason

[@maggienewton8518]

phrase of the day: "geeking each other up."

[@2pacaveli257]

😂😂😂

[@glorificus929]

YESSS

[@NikkiLifeInBloom]

lol 😂😂

[@szymonwalczak3574]

Flies are born 3 times (eggs, larva, and flies). Isn't it a great sign of Trinity😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidmgilbreath]

Praise be to the Lord of the Flies! 🙏🤴🦟

[@yarati4584]

"It's so deep, bro" he said before plunging headfirst into the proverbial children's pool that is genesis. Meanwhile the mariana trench aka biology goes "am I a joke to you?"

[@MindShift-Brandon]

ohhh love that.

[@Groffili]

The creation story in Genesis, from the beginning of the universe to the rise of life to the problematic condition of humankind is just a handfull of pages. That's all there is, and everything else they think they "know" has to come from other, outside sources. These sources encompass the totality of human knowledge about cosmology, geology, biology, history, sociology, psychology, etc. It takes years to get a rough overview in one field, decades to become proficient, and there still will be things people don't know. To be knowledgable in all fields is basically impossible. But to these people... they just ignore that. They don't want to spend all that time and effort. They stick to the three pages, fill it up with "something I once heard somewhere"... and go "whoa!", impressed by their own deep wisdom and understanding.

[@Firestorm12345678910]

@@Groffili They're not willing to investigate further then the DNA. What if the DNA had a precursor such as the RNA? If humans were created in the image and likeness of God then at what resolution would that be true? The eyes evolved only to see visible light (some with ability to see a little bit of UV) but if we look at ourselves at other magnifications we see a completely different body. With proper instruments we would see our bodies at the cellular, atomic, subatomic levels and humans (human's bodies) would look like tiny dots when viewed from afar at macro resolutions. So then if you can't zoom in and out of God's body (that is if God has a body) at scales then again how could humans be created in the image and likeness of God(s)? If God can reduce itself to the size of an atom or increase itself to the size of a hyper giant star then why can't humans do the same? If the human body has some sort of special-ness to it due to the claim made in God's image/likeness then where is that quality hiding? While humans can unlock the secrets of biology Theists still have not proven how Biology (natural world) has/had a creator.

[@RobertZellers]

Nice. I see what you did there.

[@TheNamesFathom]

dude this resonates hard with me because I remember thinking “if ‘mas’ means ‘more’ in Spanish, does Christmas mean ‘more christ’?” in hindsight that’s such an embarrassing “connection” to make

[@davidmgilbreath]

Yeah, but people do this all the time in all seriousness. My fav so far is: “Say Jesus in Spanish. What does that tell you?” 😂

[@DavidRichardson153]

​@@davidmgilbreathI actually did that a few times, and every time I did, my mind immediately jumped to Die Hard With a Vengeance - and perhaps naturally, specifically to Samuel L Jackson.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

😂 religion makes you talk like an idiot.

[@Llortnerof]

Well, christ means anointed one, anointing somebody is to smear (holy) oils on them, so christmas "obviously" means "more oil smears".

[@TheNamesFathom]

I like this and I’m stealing it

[@Andre-qo5ek]

Pseudo-Wisdom ... definitely one of my fears.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

The internet is full of it

[@exoplanet11]

When Chang said "birds in the air" for some reason I actually thought he would next say "see...God knew that birds were in the air! Nobody could have known that! That proves God's perfect". His listeners would have gone along with that too, probably.

[@ziploc2000]

Frogs are laid as eggs, hatch as tadpoles, then those tadpoles slowly transform into frogs. Christian mind blown!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol i was tempted to make this a 30 min video and give like 20 more animal metaphors at the end then the 3 or 4 that i did.

[@tiburd7]

Ah yes, that Christian process of Sanctification.

[@HeWhoWatchesTheStars]

I was actually in a Christian musical through my church growing up, and I still remember the lyrics: "Bull frogs and butterflies, they've both been born again." Because apparently metamorphosis is the same thing as being reborn as well. As well as acorns growing into oak trees: "He's changing the acorn into a mighty oak; he's making me holy and teaching me to grow. Learning to trust and obey, I'm getting stronger each day." I still remember these lyrics, and I was five when I was in that play.....

[@MindShift-Brandon]

@@tiburd7 lol! i loved this.

[@What_If_We_Tried]

Woahhhh!

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

The reach was so great and then everyone was reaching and it spread around to everyone. So we had a really great biblical reach around.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol, didnt want to laugh at this one, but i did.

[@tiburd7]

It's how groupthink works, whether in religion or anything else.

[@Jon45678]

He forgot a part of his fish analogy: When someone goes fishing it is a picture of Satan trying to lure and catch people. Whoa! Mic drop!

[@KatMo7121]

Awesome! Next time someone asks me about my hobbies, I'm gonna finish with "I play Satan on the weekends!"

[@suicune2001]

That logical mess of a video got 500,000 views???? That makes me so sad.

[@stevenpike7857]

OMG - I am just one chapter in and I want to vomit. The dude making a connection between birds and fish = to born again is delusional. And the people there tossing his salad going, "oooh aaahhh!!" like it's some profound revelation is crazy.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

it gets worse!

[@alfresco8442]

Yup! The ironic thing is that he dismisses the fetal stage as being a life in his eagerness to add an extra 'born again' life. By that logic there shouldn't be any religious objection to abortion, as he's just said it doesn't count.

[@KatMo7121]

I see what you did there! Eewww...

[@aldoraines8085]

Usually such types of "logic" and "wisdom" annoy me so much that I develop a fever after listening! However this time it just made me laugh a lot. Perhaps because of all the "Whoaaa"s. Thanks for another great episode.

[@pinky9440]

That "whoaahh's" made me feel second-hand embarrassment. Realy cringe.

[@panjandrum.conundrum]

Joe Rogan's favorite word.

[@jamie5mauser]

Wow, the mental gymnastics of the guy with the tear drop tattoo…

[@NoChance18]

14:21 "It's BIRD-ining me to hear so much FISH-information and untruth"

[@9ja9ite]

Stopped to comment at the birds and fish part - Brandon you have a super human tolerance for BS and utter stupidity. There’s no way on earth I could take 2 hours of this 🤡

[@MindShift-Brandon]

luckily this gem came toward the end, but again there was so much rough terrain before that too.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@9ja9ite completely agree; there’s no way in hell I could put myself through that kind of thing on a regular basis. Hats off to Brandon! 🫡🙇🏻

[@dasbus9834]

It all makes sense now: _"with painful labor you will give birth to children"_ - so before the fall, Eve was supposed to lay eggs!

[@davidmgilbreath]

Howdy 👋🤠 Read another fiction book (sci-fi) where in the future humans evolved to lay eggs. 🤔😂

[@davidmgilbreath]

It was “The Wraiths of Will and Pleasure” if you’re interested. 🤓

[@dasbus9834]

@@davidmgilbreath Thanks, sounds bizarre but interesting - just looking at the summary. And unlike with the Bible, sci-fi and fantasy authors usually make some effort at worldbuilding and internal consistency.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@ oh, it’s pretty bizarre for sure, in fact when I first picked it up I thought “wth IS this?!” since it was so far outside of the usual hard sci-fi I’d read - the nearest thing would’ve been Octavia E. Butler’s “Lilith’s Brood”. As you said though, the world building was good enough to make the strange tale immersive despite the unnerving feel it gave. Maybe the Bible would make more sense if a modern sci-fi/fantasy writer rewrote it, maybe someone like Brandon Sanderson (sorry @Mindshift, I think you’d do an awesome job too ofc).

[@dasbus9834]

​@@davidmgilbreath I'm not sure how much of the original characters and motifs would remain in that case... anyway, better to write new stories than to have yet another reboot or sequel 😉

[@michaelhenry1763]

14:05 😂😂😂😂😂 love it, “ you know what they do after they finished swimming upstream? They die”. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bobbydobalina]

And those are the lucky ones that didn’t fly into the jaws of feeding bears waiting for them 😂

[@michaelhenry1763]

@ 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

Deep? That's kindergarten level rationalization LOL

[@MindShift-Brandon]

don't beat up the 5 year olds!

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

@@MindShift-Brandon it's appropriate for 5 year olds lol 🤣

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

True

[@anjafrohlich1170]

Or, you know, on-drugs level

[@DavidRichardson153]

​@@CatDaddyGuitarYou sure? At least 5-years-olds actually ask "Why?" - and keep asking it, to the point that we momentarily turn into apologists and tell/scream at them to shut up.

[@derreckwalls7508]

"The biggest fools are the ones convinced they are wise." ~ me, just now, after three cocktails... paraphrasing pretty much every philosopher since Plato.

[@JasonHenderson]

Humans have eggs too.

[@Vadjong]

Indeed. Women are just pre-cracked wholebody eggs with metaphorical hard shells. [Ducking real fast]

[@JasonHenderson]

@Vadjong mic drop 😎😎

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Stop it, you're blowing my theist mind

[@bobbydobalina]

Brandon, I have to ask, but how did you manage to edit out the dense clouds of smoke and gutted Dorito bags from that video clip?

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol

[@PokemonRules333]

Oh those poor gutted Dorito bags

[@floccinaucinihilipilifications]

It actually made me ache & groan… “bro, mic drop.”

[@riluna3695]

Here's what you do when you have a thought like this: 1) Ask yourself if anything on the list didn't fit the theme. If so, you're off-base and need to rethink. 2) Ask yourself if anything NOT on the list _does_ fit the theme, that God just forgot about in his infinite wisdom. 3) Ask yourself if this connection is something that makes sense to make in this circumstance. Why are we reading a list of types of animals that exist, thinking of the methods of their birth when they weren't mentioned, and tying that to the idea of being Born Again when _that_ wasn't mentioned? Is it more reasonable to believe this is just a simple list? 4) Remind yourself that coincidences definitively exist. Because if you assume they don't, then every single seeming coincidence across all of space and time MUST all have a deeper meaning, and all of those deeper meanings must build towards the same one noncontradictory worldview. So if even a single one doesn't have a deeper meaning, or if the only deeper meanings lead it in the opposite direction, the "there are no coincidences" belief is proven unequivocably false. And if any coincidences exist, remember that this could just be one of them, and rate that chance against the likelihood from point 3. 5) Even after all of this, double-check with a friend who will also go through this list rather than blindly accept that you're correct. They may have information you lack that weakens or strengthens the idea, or changes the "how likely is it?" math in a meaningful way. Do all of that, fairly and without bias towards your cool new idea you really want to believe in, without the idea breaking at any point in the process, and you MIGHT be onto something. Even then it hasn't been proven conclusively true. And as sad and unfulfilling as that sounds, this is just a small fraction of the crap scientific ideas put themselves through on a regular basis, to weed out bad ideas, leaving only the good. If Science can do all of THAT, the Word of your God is capable of surviving at least this much. To disagree is to call your God weak. To try it and have him fail is for him to BE weak. If an untrue-idea-destroyer threatens you (as it seems to threaten so many apologists with how fervently they fight to avoid it), then that is a very bad sign for your ideas.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

what a lovely list, and how utterly said how far off it is from how most believers process their religion.

[@riluna3695]

@@MindShift-Brandon I mean, it's not just them either. This sort of thoughtlessness is pretty standard human behavior. (Though an unhealthy amount of people are encouraged to play into this human shortcoming deliberately) The Scientific Method's claim to fame is being the only way we have of putting that bias aside long enough to see the world without our bad-prescription rainbow-tinted glasses we all wear. And despite the "Us vs Them" some sects get caught up in about science vs religion, anyone can use the scientific method to come to their conclusions, and any scientist can falter and fail to apply it properly. It's just up to all the others doing it right to call them out on it when they mess up (or even try lying). Gotta make sure their work gets Reviewed by a few of their Peers. If only there were a name for that process.... :P Incidentally, I'm starting to like that mental image of a paper shredder than only tears up incorrect ideas, and lets true ones pass through safely. Could make for a fun metaphor to explore further. (This is more or less how all my ideas for books first form :P)

[@hopelessidealist]

Completely unrelated, I recently learned that 54% of American adults have a literacy level below a 6th-grade level. Not sure what made me think of that right now.

[@RichWoods23]

"Whoooooaaahhh!"

[@DavidRichardson153]

Did you learn this before or after watching a few episodes of Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? That was the timing for when I first learned that.

[@MarkSheeres]

The human mind is an amazing connection-making machine. The fortune-teller at the fair this summer made some astounding connections between the King of Cups, the Seven of Pentacles, and my career aspirations.

[@Kelley_X]

Did you say “2 girls 1 cup and 7 tentacles”? Either you need to change your career aspirations or I need to get my ears checked ;p

[@MarkSheeres]

😂

[@MarkSheeres]

I probably should have said that my comment was tongue in cheek. Great, now everybody probably thinks I’m a nut. 😂

[@survive323]

Deception is a powerful phycological tool. Usually used for bad intentions. I believe your work helps expose the bad intentions. Thinking is important in order to make good decisions and having someone help explain the problems is essential. Thanks for your wisdom!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that, always glad to encourage thinking!

[@garryfounds3737]

Oh dude. So damn hilarious. It’s like a bunch of Christians decided to smoke a few doobies!

[@zacharylehocki]

I had to stop and put down my Coffee and actually scream ``Oh cmon!`` when they made the connection about fish and birds having two births (not even true) as metaphoric of Christians being born again. The overreaching Christians need to do, a real God wouldn`t need people to do this for him.

[@ziploc2000]

The less you pay attention in school the more really basic biological facts appear to be mystical.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

education is absolutely an issue for where faith flourishes.

[@sundayoliver3147]

I think it's fine to consider basic biological facts to be mystical-- as long as you are actually sticking to the basic biological facts. It's certainly true that science is about exploring the unknown (at least when it's not driven by grant money), which is why we have scientific advancement-- so sometimes what was once a fact ("can't split the atom") is no longer a fact.

[@ziploc2000]

@@sundayoliver3147 I don't, but maybe we have a different idea of what mystical means.

[@tofuxtim]

Commenting for the Algorithm. Hopefully your video(s) will appear at people's YT when watching this kind of stuff!

[@Pinkaphrodite123]

Oh god this was so cringey it hurt🤕🤢🥴Especially when she said “bars”🤦‍♀️

[@tinyshepherdess7710]

Starting in the 80s, homeschooling took over evangelical households so you have millennials and younger who have essentially never had a decent science lesson, nor have they had any instruction on how to think critically. They are taught to NOT think too much, that it's sinful to ask questions.

[@purple_oak]

Wow, that's terrifying. No wonder we got a second Trump term. I'm trying to understand how the other side thinks and it's worse than I thought.

[@gamecrusher2024]

Responding to timestamp 4:13 - My former Pastor always quoted the 2nd half of 2 Corinthians 9:7. Which states: For God loves a cheerful giver. However, he always left out the 1st part of that verse, which states, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity". The entire verse goes like this: "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." SO DECEPTIVE!

[@jaflenbond7854]

The real and raging BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth is still ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and believe his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 but will also be hated, dishonored, mocked, and slandered by arrogant, cruel, merciless, and deceitful Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly filling the world with Satanic LIE and claim that GOD doesn't exist and Satanic LIES, tricks, deceits, and false teachings about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation". Arrogant, cruel, merciless, and deceitful Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of Religions will just turn into worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their inescapable deaths while LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@kettei7743]

Just watched the whole thing, and honestly, no notes. The connections were incredibly bad a were overeaching, and its my first time watching someone make such a point. If this is all of their content, they should 100% do better, and as religious it made me cringe... Happy tuesday

[@MindShift-Brandon]

indeed, happy tuesday! Though this may seem like a sillier or more extreme example, its still the same thinking that goes on everyday for many christians who use personal experience or bad bible reading to bolster their faith.

[@stevewebber707]

I know it's common and popular to read between the lines of the bible in Christianity. But he's wandering off into fan fiction genre.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

a wild ride indeed.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@stevewebber707 not really out of character though, considering how much of the Bible could fall into the fan-fic genre. 🤷

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@davidmgilbreath Very true. A mishmash of mythology which somehow we are meant to take as some kind of plan.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@sundayoliver3147 oh boy, can already see apologists saying “But THAT’S part of the plan!” 😂

[@johnysimps1191]

Yeah I'm just genuinely speechless. I've been there though. It really is superstition. I think you should make a video breaking down WHY people would submit to such idiocy. I don't think I've seen you do that kind of video or if you have then someone please let me know There used to be a time in life when i was faced with so much stress i would throw my hands up to god and hope for better outcomes. I think this is the best practical use for god.

[@wild-blue-02]

Hello, thank you for launching this channel, I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on Christianity! I've never converted to the religion due to the same thoughts you've stated in previous videos. Would love to see your thoughts on physical evidence for/against Christianity and similarities/differences between various NDEs/visions/dreams from people if you ever plan to tackle those subjects!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

thanks for that, will do.

[@tiburd7]

Yes, I'm particularly intrigued by detailed NDEs from devout Christians - including in some cases wives or daughters of pastors - who report never encountering any entity they could identify as Jesus, contrary to their confident expectations.

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

Random thought from talking about birds...why do angels have wings? Does gravity affect them? 🤷🏼

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol last time i talked about angels, christians told me over and over in the comments, i couldnt possibly understand them or gods mind when he made them.

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

@MindShift-Brandon but they're cool with it lol... Don't question the Maker haha

[@QueenBoadicea]

In the buybull, angels aren't usually stated to have wings. They're often mistaken for humans meaning they couldn't have wings or anything that would mark them as being non-human beings.

[@mightiestalone9851]

Most angel sightings are reported as wingless. I don't think the Bible mentions them with wings either.

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

@QueenBoadicea they are supposed to be able to change form or something too, so there's that. I mean, if they were real lol

[@sauron69447]

Happy Tuesday!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey there!

[@sugakukata]

This type of far-reaching symbolic reasoning sounds similar to what Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Pageau do, though significantly less sophisticated. On that note, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on Pageau's 'hyperreal' interpretation of Biblical texts.

[@mayito8531]

😂 I found so ridiculous the genesis explanation, to the point I started laughing lol so very stupid AF 😅

[@MindShift-Brandon]

pretty darn rough.

[@Lord.alucarD]

Wooooooow 😮 THAT'S CRAZY🎉

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol

[@brightargyle8950]

Oof, that clip was laughably bad, you nailed it. I see this stuff all the time, it's supposed to sound profound and leave you in awe, but that clip... I can't believe they weren't just exaggerating for the views.

[@dylanc4376]

With the US election today, I can't help but connect this Christian pseudo-wisdom to the multitude of politicians who also think this way, both Republican and Democrat. I seem to be in the minority of people who has been and still is very concerned about the faith and superstition of politicians. These are people who, in many ways, have our wellbeing and lives in their hands. How refreshing would it be to see a candidate who hears stuff like this and says, "Although I respect their faith, we have gotta grow up and move away from this stuff. This is obviously not true" When social media influencers make these wide connections, I laugh. When politicians do it, I can't help but feel a pit in my stomach.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So well said! agreed.

[@doctorfox1592]

@MindShift-Brandon Can you do a video reaction on the following videos? The subject matter has to do with concupiscence, Side A/Side B gay Christians, and how some Christians are pushing back against it. I would find it interesting to hear your take on the matter. Regardless of the views of homosexuality, I find it interesting as the idea of concuspcious as defined by the Catholic and Protestant Church. The videos are called: Big Conversation on Same-Sex Attraction and Sin (w/ Rosaria Butterfield) Is Same-Sex Attraction a Sin? The dangers of Side B Theology with Christopher Yuan

[@sundayoliver3147]

There's so much packed into this one example, appreciate it.

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

Ugh. So much cringe and eye roll from me just hearing their pattern seeking video. I felt that just as you did, Brandon! Great vid as always!

[@jeffbenelli6999]

Loved the episode, Brandon. The cringe factor was really high for these guys! Hard to listen to, lol

[@cymatiste]

I used to do so much of this creative biblical metaphor stretching for my youth group newsletter when I was 13, and the adults ate it up.

[@jaflenbond7854]

The BIBLE is the only book in the world that exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of LIES and Murderer of Human beings as written in John 8: 44 and the EVIDENCE that Satan the Devil is using ATHEISM, CHRISTIANITY and ALL RELIGIONS to LIE, DECEIVE, and MURDER human beings is Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their Satanic LIE and claim that GOD doesn't exist and Satanic LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring and cause themselves their own DISHONOR, disgrace, shame, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and humiliations, degradations, SUFFERINGS, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS to their own families and neighbors. The BIBLICAL TRUTHS that HUMAN BEINGS were created to LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER are - 1. LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the LOVING, KIND, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@purple_oak]

that's hilarious

[@2msystems740]

It is morbidly satisfying to see and hear this much stupid absurd crap strung together, spewed and then received with so much awe. Wow! You've blown my mind. Thank gawd I have a brain cell left to resume the mockery.

[@thunderbird3694]

"woah... mic drop". ROFLMAO

[@janicelemasters7614]

Brandon this was hilarious. You are doing a great service.

[@KarmasAB123]

Reminds me of a Sam O'Nella quote: It's like they heard about metaphors, but didn't understand what they were

[@SCP-SAM]

Boom! Here we go!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Hey man!

[@SeekingTruth2023]

Late today. Nice to see you here 😊

[@SCP-SAM]

@@SeekingTruth2023 nice to see you Seeking....sipping coffee?

[@SeekingTruth2023]

@SCP-SAM It's too late for coffee here (6:14pm) 😅 And I am very excited anyway, because I will get a cat on Saturday morning. 😊🤗

[@birdmann9197]

I'm losing my fvcking mind!!! (3.5 mins in)

[@lylez00]

Some fish are born live, not from eggs.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@lylez00 and some fish defy gravity by flying (sort of anyway).

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@lylez00 oh and frogs, snakes, lizards, squirrels and other mammals too; lots of animals have the ability to “defy” gravity (at least to a certain degree). 🤓

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@davidmgilbreath Human beings, too, if you count pole-vaulting and airplanes...

[@davidmgilbreath]

@ hahaha! Look mom! No hands! 😅

[@Vadjong]

@lylez00 Yeah, totally. Like dolphins 'n stuff. Just sayin'.

[@RambleMaven]

I’m so tired of you 🤣🤣🤣 That octopus backsliding comment was uncalled for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MindShift-Brandon]

lol, just showing how faulty this kind of metaphor making can be.

[@tiburd7]

The octopus wasn't a Calvinist.

[@adamrspears1981]

"Mind drop dude, mind drop!" -Yup they definately dropped their minds!😂

[@docmychedelic9153]

It’s so funny. I could give you a “miracle” that Jerry Garcia performed that is more impressive. Gratefully (actually came back to edit from thankfully, how could I miss that?) Jerry was adamant that no one worship him and that any magical shit you perceived wasn’t coming from him. Finding cosmic coincidence was a big Deadhead thing and I have a few, but between you and Matt D. I’ve come to appreciate they may indeed be just coincidence.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Cosmic Coincidence is an excellent term for this.

[@sordidknifeparty]

Some people can find meaning anywhere, even in the absolutely meaningless.

[@Churchill00Burns]

We might as well just call all denominations "Christianity of convenience." They all seem to use it to serve whatever purpose they choose.

[@RichWoods23]

Cafeteria Christianity. Also used to enable each Christian to separately make their God in their own image.

[@Explodington]

WHOOOOOAAAAA!

[@prodigal_southerner]

Isnt it amazing how all living things are made of water? It's almost like life started in water then adapted ways to retain water while no longer living in water. The Lord truly works in mysterious and predictable ways.

[@dasbus9834]

Failing so utterly in such a holistic way about both simple biology _and_ what the Bible says _and_ at making any meaningful observation about both surely must be some sort of performance art?

[@MindShift-Brandon]

now imaging these two in the studio, but you zoom out and its behind glass in a pseudo-science museum. And the little id tag simply says my new favorite word, "Apophenia"

[@dasbus9834]

@@MindShift-Brandon If only... but unfortunately they're out there in the wild.

[@maggienewton8518]

yeah. I think the "whoaaa's" confirm your theory

[@Jon45678]

It’s a dirty job, but someone needs to do these takedowns. Thanks for taking one for the team. Where do you find all these clowns? I never heard of these guys. That first clip was so cringworthy, a Christian should hear that and realize what an embarrassing cult they are part of. It is so ridiculous when you look at it from the outside.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

thank you. man George Janko is huge right now! its insane the reach he has and the individuals he has on.

[@Jon45678]

@@MindShift-Brandon I was really into Christian KZbinrs about a year ago. Glad I never found that one. Now my playlist has done a 180 thanks to your channel. The evil satanic KZbin algorithm pushed one of your videos to me and it validated all the questions about the Bible I suppressed for decades, causing an unexpected but liberating MINDSHIFT 👊🏻

[@elilane8627]

Props to you for sitting through the whole video, I was already facepalming after the first exchange about birds and fish being “born twice” 😂 In all seriousness though it’s really concerning to watch 3 grown adults sitting around oohing and ahhing as if there was some grand revelation while they bounce increasingly ridiculous ideas back and forth trying to one up each other with their profundity. And they never even get past Genesis. I wonder what hidden messages they think are hiding in something numbers 31 lol

[@MindShift-Brandon]

right? and thanks so much!

[@alfresco8442]

If you look at Genesis 1 it states, right out of the gate, that Day and Night were created on the first day, yet the sun wasn't created until the fourth day. How exactly does that work? It tends to go downhill from there.

[@sundayoliver3147]

God works in mysterious ways??? /s

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

light without the sun

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

I thought it was Jesus (he is the light of the world)

[@alfresco8442]

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr It wasn't light without the sun. That was the original "Fiat Lux!." Nor was is Jesus...he wouldn't even be born until thousands of years later. The light was divided from the darkness and they were specifically named Night and Day before the sun was even created. It makes no sense whatsoever.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

@@alfresco8442 Christians say Jesus was there at creation.

[@The4Headed_Dragon]

They're going "whoa, that's so deep and profound." and I'm thinking "that's the dumbest thing that I have heard all week ."

[@cccar67]

Thanks!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Appreciate that so much!

[@FinPhysio]

My big moment was when I realized that for many truth means nothing. It's all about what fits your narrative and what makes money. As a truth seeker I left christianity couple years ago.

[@shriggs55]

Well said. As you know, the Bible warns against "adding to" it's original words.But interpretations do just that. Interpreters are basically saying, "This is the way I would have put it or wrote it down if I would have written this passage or verse." Whether they are conscious of it or not, they are saying that their interpretation, or, what they've added,is superior to the plain text-and that's the way it should have been written down in the first place.

[@davidmgilbreath]

The “Bible” has been add to, and taken away from, since before it’s inception. 🤷

[@sundayoliver3147]

Not to mention the bajillion different translations of the Bible, in many languages and from many eras. Translations are interpretations. And then there are the books that get left out or left in, depending on the religio-political zeitgeist of the times...

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@sundayoliver3147 exactly!

[@Mefbuz]

Totally love it!

[@MindShift-Brandon]

Thanks for being here for it!

[@BluStarGalaxy]

I had the lowest of expectations for the Christian short you showed and I was still disappointed.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

ha! made me actually laugh out loud.

[@BluStarGalaxy]

Nice! 😂👏👏 When that guy started talking about birds coming from water I was wondering if we were reacting to a conspiracy theory video. I’m was like, “Oh no.”

[@davidmgilbreath]

Lol should’ve lowered the bar further @BluStarGslaxy 😝

[@BluStarGalaxy]

I didn’t know it was possible.

[@davidmgilbreath]

@@BluStarGalaxy oh Satan, lead me not into temptation! 😂

[@winros]

Salad talk... that's what I'm hearing.

[@JediMediator]

Hey Brandon, have you made any videos offering perspectives on being a parent when your partner is still a Christian? I know you've mentioned it, but can't recall if you've gone into detail. That's my situation right now and I'm not really sure how to go about certain things in a fair way.

[@DavidRichardson153]

I'm just glad that (for the time being) none of my evangelical/born-again relatives have tried to push this around or to me. Maybe it is because I am a microbiologist and chemist as well as someone who has had quite a bit of practice along with a few years of actual experience studying, handling, and even (to a degree) manipulating infectious diseases. Perhaps they are somehow aware that I could give them quite the impactful lesson of what "playing God" actually looks like and why it is better for everyone if people like me continue to, as I put it, be more like the Devil.

[@TonyLambregts]

The confirmation bias is a strong factor when believing unsupported claims. These fellows are prime examples.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

100%!

[@DannyS177]

That clip was so deep that it was scientificly inaccurate and absurd. Sadly, when I was a Christian, so of those things worked on me and I thought they were deep at the time.

[@ivangordy8957]

That’s bars fam, mic drop my bro. My guy. Frfr no cap.

[@SocomElite]

Thee amount of mental gymnastics it takes to believe in the unbelievable is astonishing. I'm tired of explaining this crap to my family members.

[@mrsmax3071]

That chameleon analogy? Nice job, brother Brandon.