Minecraft doesn't need you.

Minecraft is a game that allows the player to have almost unlimited creativity. But what would happen if there never was a player? Could the random events that occur in the game ever result in anything useful? Tonight, we are going to aim to answer that question.
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[@RetroGamingNow]

Hey everyone! Thanks for checking out the video! Obviously, this is a thought experiment more than anything - there are many reasons that an infinite time world is clearly impossible. It's also pretty cool to hear from people who have more technical programming experience regarding RNG - that is an aspect that I didn't cover whatsoever. Nonetheless, I had a ton of fun thinking of crazy ways for things to happen - do you have any ideas I didn't mention?

[@clutchnitey3434]

Good Video!

[@mkks4559]

You should ask IBM to use their quantum computer for a couple of hours to run this experiment.

[@the-letter_s]

this reminds me of Xeelee Sequence and similar works of fiction on unimaginable timescales. imagine the society of endermen working under tirelessly their limitations for billions of years to reach this goal.

[@aymericwielemans2912]

If a wolf kills the fox with the elytra or the egg a zombie could pick them up.

[@router_BasedUser]

Spawn chunks ruin everything. Sorry. The next step is to figure out how to load anything that isn't a spawn chunk (and fitting inside the default mobcap). Also, after a bit of watching, there would be a lot more entropy to deal with, but I guess infinite time could set it up well enough.

[@glanni]

I love how the Skeleton's sole job is to be bad at archery.

[@Bluetaill]

The stormtrooper of Minecraft

[@dukdukproductions6294]

i don't know, the skeletons i encounter could rival the white death

[@milkdrinker6728]

@@acevant7535wither skeletons ate too many sweet rolls :(

[@sleepforever8378]

​@@milkdrinker6728how do sweet rolls make you tall

[@milkdrinker6728]

@@sleepforever8378 ill b real i was high when i commented that idk what i meant

[@pewfss]

Props to the cameraman for playing minecraft 40 trillion years in the future to record all of this happening

[@Garviel_Loken.]

He's the true hero of this video 👏✊

[@uncommonsense360]

not even close to the actual length of time required here

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

@@uncommonsense360 How can you be so sure? Chance is random after all, with no proof either way 40 trillion years, despite extremely unlikely is possible

​@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 With an avarage luck this would take years that has billions of zeros in it. Getting that tnts to end will take so long. It is not gonna be done by only one enderman it is gonna be done by many many hundreds. Bc we need a lot of different mansions and they all are really far away from the end portal

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

@ But what if we substituted average luck for dream luck?

[@LUNE.44]

Imagine spawing in a world, then getting distracted and ending up cryogenically freezing yourself for a thousand years, accidentally leaving your computer on the whole time. When you wake up, you realise you left it on and look at the screen and see a fox with an elytra in its mouth next to another fox with a dragon egg

[@Qwerka]

Completely possible

[@Tay10rd]

Virtually Inconceivable

[@mahmaddoesgaming]

ooh....... spooky..... scary........ OOH...... MARIO'S TUNNEL OF DOOM AND DESTRUCTION AND OP FOXES

[@LUNE.44]

@@mahmaddoesgaming true

[@mattaku9430]

It's not possible in vanilla minecraft, end and nether wouldn't load without the player. Mobs too far away from the player don't pathfind.

[@jebek_]

This reminds me of a famous quote from a Brothers Grimm story: “In Lower Pomerania is the Diamond Mountain, which is two miles and a half high, two miles and a half wide, and two miles and a half in depth; every hundred years a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on it, and when the whole mountain is worn away by this, then the first second of eternity will be over.”

[@juanignacioc994]

Something similar in Buddhism, if we got a mountain 10 KM high, wide, and deep, and once every hundred years someone rubs a silk cloth on it's peak, once the entire mountain ceases to exist, an eon happened.

[@DanielYapHZ]

@@juanignacioc994 I was just thinking of the Buddhist story as well! Thanks for sharing!

[@paradox9551]

You may think that's a hell of a long time. Personally, I think that's a hell of a bird.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@cavedmanjim249 Ooooof, this hurts to read. Everything started so great, but then you implied that you're _certain_ you know there's an afterlife, despite their being quite literally zero evidence to support that hypothesis. The truth is... you *don't* know where you'll be spending eternity (don't know why you capitalized it either), and neither I or anyone else knows either. I do hope you're right because that'd be pretty darn cool, but you probably aren't. In all likelihood, we're all going to spend eternity in the dirt. Eventually, maybe our original matter could be reincorporated into a new organism, and that's kinda neat to think about! P.S. this is not what they meant by "spread the good word of god" 😂 (what you _do_ have is FAITH that you'll go to heaven. My point was that that is not the same as knowing because knowing requires evidence, while faith requires none. That's kinda the whole point... wouldn't be very difficult if you could point at the fossil record and go "no dude, look. Heaven exists, and here's the proof!", ya know? It would defeat the entire point of organized religion.. My second point is just that from a practical standpoint, you should stop doing this. It has the exact _opposite_ effect that you think it does. Seriously, go look into it)

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@paradox9551 I would NOT want to be they prey of the bird with the sharpest beak in the universe 😂

[@Go_ing]

There is already a minecraft seed where the obby from a woodland mansion finishes a portal that can also light itself. That avoids this complicated mess but its fun to think about!

[@NummyGD]

What’s the seed

[@AstroBlakeD]

Seed or fake

[@rz2374]

Unfortunately that seed better have a fully lit end portal as well, otherwise a large portion of the possibilities are gone

[@cllncl]

Source?

[@Surfboarder4]

This didn't come up during our research, awesome find though

[@helmie6619]

Imagine playing in a world and suddenly getting the "Free the End" achievement... and then you realize that you're in singleplayer... O.o

[@pyrical3570]

im not sure if you would get the achievement since you didn't directly kill the dragon but it maybe possible

[@Copperkaiju]

I don't know if this happens in newer versions but in the PS3 version, when you're in Overworld, you can still hear the explosion when the Ender Dragon dies.

[@Nyerguds]

Only happens if you actually kill the dragon, yea. (Though if it's been killed you can still get it by re-summoning it with End Crystals)

[@daniellewilson8527]

@@Nyerguds how? I don’t think it’s possible to get the crystals

[@Nyerguds]

@@daniellewilson8527 Eh? They can simply be crafted. Eye of Ender in the center, ghast tear below, and surround with glass.

[@freshprinceoffrance754]

Imagine stepping away from your computer for 40 trillion years and you come back and the game is beaten

[@theairaccumulator7144]

Wouldn't work because a player needs to load chunks.

[@crimumb4839]

@@theairaccumulator7144 shhh its a joke

[@nescafeblend43]

half this reply section aint getting the joke 😭

[@vacb]

​@@nescafeblend43I mean you ain't wrong

[@pyramidteam9961]

@@nescafeblend43 Now it's only 20%

[@crimsonsakura2184]

10:29 - At this moment, the phrase "the chances are low, but they're never zero" is being taken to a whole another level. There's not just one astronomically low chance, there's thousands of them, requiring to happen one by one.

[@chubokuay590]

This isn’t a speed run, its a slow run. Or maybe theres no ‘run’ at all considering no player input. Just the natural forces of RNG spending eternity beating the enderdragon.

[@andrewnicholas291]

100

[@whothefrickareyou8106]

Hey the mobs are trying their best

[@myselft36yearsago]

It would be interesting to see a solid drawn animation based on this Similar to "an object and rest"

[@meaningfulmindfulness15]

Like a giant Minecraft Cosmos just creating and destroying the infinite worlds.

[@flandyc4513]

Imagine a stream of MC just playing itself Edit You could code an AI that's learned to play it to work with one of those chat bots. And the chat bot will place signs to talk to the chat

[@eliad6543]

I want a mod that makes the mobs actually try to do this intentionally

[@skullybones720]

yes

[@frandurrieu6477]

That mod would be some hell of a work if somone ever does it

[@JauntyDaftod]

Saturday plans

[@cheesegreater5739]

And maybe speeds up the game. That would be really fun to spectate

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

I can only imagine how much the computer you ran it on would hate you...

[@RvB_Fan_since_8]

Could you imagine, playing solo you go through the whole process of getting eyes, armor, weapons, ect. Then you find the portal, and it’s completed. You go through it, there’s massive stair cases to the tops of the pillars, and the dragon is already dead.

[@th3xact]

lmfao, you see that and you will be asking for a refund

[@James2210]

Endermen can only pick up blocks with the sides exposed, not the top. That's why you don't find random holes in the ground everywhere

[@gamesgamesgamesgay4847]

Do all four sides need to be exposed? Or just some?

[@James2210]

@@gamesgamesgamesgay4847 Just one side

[@rexdino7405]

so the enderman could make a path to a block they want, then get the block and fill the path back in@@James2210

[@HeadHunter697]

I don't think this applies to bedrock, the outside of my base has 1 blocks holes everywhere and randomly placed grass blocks

[@person3171]

I feel like this would make a really cute kids book. An enderman, a skeleton, and a snow golem going on a journey to defeat the ender dragon

[@abrario]

There’s a video about this by evbo, here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJfRdJt5e66CqMk (glad to help :) )

[@moonwalkhi]

I think there are kids Minecraft books on those

[@lucaswallo8127]

yeah

[@Roescoe]

@@abrario Nice, That's a pretty endearing video.

[@Mr_Erutrot]

I might write this into a book, That would be a good hobby this summer

[@retardednotoriousmf7902]

"Minecraft doesn't need you" Understandable, have a nice day.

[@knox9739]

player: *i always come back*

[@joysonbaretto3690]

@@knox9739 checkmate

[@knox9739]

@@joysonbaretto3690 acces denied

[@VixYW]

When not even the games you play needs you anymore...

[@spectorcsm]

All I could think of when I read the title was the sad cat meme with the thumbs up lol

[@minecraftoutrage]

"Gentlemen! We are going to obtain an elytra!" "What's the plan?" *takes a deep breath*

[@renakunisaki]

"just wait" "...okay, will you tell us the plan now?" "I already did."

[@blizzard_the_seal9863]

@@renakunisaki omg

[@conorprendergast5035]

reminds me of the "library of babel" a story about an infinite library filled with books with completely random letters printed on them. Because it is infinite, it would somewhere contain any work of text you can imagine. Jacob Geller did a great video on it called the shape of infinity.

[@chrispy5249]

It actually exists as a website

[@MrSchoscho1]

​@@chrispy5249 Wtf, it's incredible. Ty for the discover ! I'm already playing with it

[@theduck1447]

i also read it, fictions by Luis borges

[@Issam-od4pg]

Yeah I saw that on a Vsauce video, it's actually really intresting

[@schwingedeshaehers]

It depends. If you say, you have completed random book, with random letters, it depends on the letters, as you can't build a book, that has a letter, that is not in that list

[@ghhs9292]

Imagine making it to the end only to realize the enderman beat you to it already killing the dragon

[@Periwinkleaccount]

@@melissaliechty2923 yes, it’s a joke.

[@whatthetutorial9829]

@@melissaliechty2923 yes it can when the dragon comes down it hits endermen which then attack it till they die so if the dragon gets so many endermen after it that it can't healfast enough the enderman can kill it

[@minophilic6577]

Yeah, just some perfect RNG.

[@Edward_7th]

Not on bedrock edition he comes down but when the dragon comes down with all crystals you probably won’t kill it without breaking crystals also enderman cant hit it when it swoops down

[@khiemgom]

@@melissaliechty2923 sometimes they are connected to the end island

[@c.o.y9418]

RGN took "The chances are low, But never zero" to a whole another level

[@drialflame5047]

U mean RNG

[@someedumbasss]

@@drialflame5047 His username is Retro Gaming Now so its RGN

[@gdavid]

Fun fact: zero chance still doesn't mean impossible

[@angrydorito3252]

@@someedumbasss its a joke

[@2wr633]

@@gdavid wait how ?

[@LD-dt1sk]

"Wanna play Minecraft" "Nah, Ill just go and exist, itll play itself"

[@kevinfeiring8029]

Imagine spawning in a world and seeing a fox with a elytra

[@Gabrocol]

Player in hardcore: fails to complete the game Mobs: fine, I'll do myself

[@t34calliope]

Mobs: ye just give us 4 billion endermans, a one in a trillion chance and 47 years

[@Bloopy]

@@t34calliope I think it would be closer to something like 47 quintillion years

[@tookiecar1]

@@gan1 deciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadeciennadecilion years

[@Jx_-]

It's now canon (to me) that on failed Hardcore worlds, the mobs beat the game and finish every project the player had in mind (as close as possible at least)

[@gageadams8662]

This is top teir

[@xenoraptor4714]

I like too imagine this happens when a player fails hardcore minecraft

[@WendigoRin]

There's still a chance that my wolf won't be forever alone, stuck in an eternal hell in which every other mob ignores it leaving it there alone and in pain that its owner died.

[@pandasabotage7943]

hardy har har cant believe evbo stole that for his title of one of his videoes

[@zombathinlostleghackercat5233]

"Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@shroove4312]

@@WendigoRin or a enderman blew it up with tnt or killed it with sand or a creeper vs snow golem

[@theinfernus9912]

Player: *dies trying to defeat the ender dragon* Enderman: Fine i'll do it myself

[@Syrenova]

And let's not forget that at a point in time, endermen could pick up pretty much everything. It became a nightmare for builds, so it got changed to the current limitation.

[@oliverhaward]

This video, conceptually, is incredible, and I'm very glad I happened to find it. The idea of infinite Minecraft, or a game playing itself independent from any player is super intriguing; what kind of stories could happen in this kind of world? Would the mobs build their own structures? (What would they make, and why?) Would they explore the entire world together, or destroy it all? Imagine this is a hardcore world, and the player died a very long time ago. Life goes on in their absence, and the creatures put into motion their own world, more impressive than anything any player could ever imagine. Monuments and towers dedicated to nothing tower over the endless horizon, shrouding the sun, and everything that anybody thought was possible. Imagine a new player joins this world, somehow, someday, and they walk through this foreign place, and they realise there, in that moment, that Minecraft really doesn't need them. It just needs time.

[@OverTheStarx]

Underrated comment

[@memiix]

"It just needs time" ✍🔥

[@peter_pinguin]

Try Dwarf Fortress! ;)

[@I_Love_Learning]

@@tagar8332 What, 2 paragraphs?

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

@@tagar8332 "Look at me, everyone! I'm bad at reading!"

[@salvale9184]

"Sir you have been in a coma for several trillion years, fortunately you left your minecraft world open the whole time" "Oh boy, can't wait to check on my favourite ender dragon, ocean monument, and elytra!"

[@NickoTHPS]

HELL FOR YOU!

[@ooffilipinopatriot7605]

degradation: *Imma stop you right there. Your computer is now just rust*

[@lewischrismichealdomonical2216]

Wow that's a meme format I haven't seen for a long time, thanks for reminding me it exists

[@Diaming787]

More likely you just see random littered grass blocks everywhere covering up much terrain in a haphazard way.

[@coolwarfare]

Electric bill be like

[@MrBruh-dv9fv]

Actually, it's astronomically more likely that all matter in the universe decays into nothingness before the mobs even have the chance to destroy their first end crystal.

[@remainprofane7732]

Do you know what infinite means

[@MrBruh-dv9fv]

@@remainprofane7732 of course I do. I'm just saying you can't run a computer for eternity, making the whole probability pointless.

[@terrellmccray4704]

that's kinda the point though

[@angrywolfjr7164]

@@MrBruh-dv9fv actually, if we code the game in such a way that we can speed up time real high (like 1k Minecraft days in a milli second) and have the game run on a super quantum computer, is it possible in our universe lifespan?

[@MrBruh-dv9fv]

@@angrywolfjr7164 well, it's also impossible because of two other factors. Minecraft is not truly random and there is no infinite TNT. If we removed those two factors then it should be possible on super ultra mega sped up time in one universe lifetime.

[@someth1ngstupid]

At this point moving your hand through a wall is more likely. Quite an interesting thing to think about

[@TheGreatSeraphim]

OG Endermen used to actually be programmed to build makeshift structures and not just random placements.

[@slugg8378]

That's so awesome I wish they still did that 😭

[@ishakplayz8008]

I thought i dreamt that 😳

[@tfwnoyandere]

source?

[@Cr1tical5tr1ke]

​@@tfwnoyandereit was showed to him in a dream.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

@@Cr1tical5tr1ke the well known cheater Dream?

[@Thete]

15:15 It actually goes further! The fox could return to the overworld and be killed by a skeleton arrow, dropping the elytra, which could then be picked up and worn by a zombie!.

[@knox9739]

i once see a wolf killing fox :(

[@Thete]

@@knox9739 That would work too

[@danksmemington362]

He wouldn't be able to reach the returning End gateway to the main island

[@RavDeBest]

@@danksmemington362 what if it is right top of the ship

[@Thete]

@@danksmemington362 He could get Levitation from a shulker.

[@shrimp258]

It official everyone we’ve finally found something more statistically unlikely than dreams speed run luck

[@ruchikapandey6836]

LOL

[@clauteletuby]

fax

[@clauteletuby]

actually dreams lucks bigger lol as expected, some people took this reply seriously. guys im kidding dude. im just making fun of dream cause he has good “luck”

[@Elyzeon.]

@@clauteletuby no.

[@cannedrice_]

no

[@gabrielcastro6193]

the enderman being the only mob with a human like nature is actually pretty unsettling, and gives that theory of them being humans before any event happenned is really weird

[@WilliamW2010]

12:39 Keyword: MOST Endermen CAN pick up short flowers, which are flammable, meaning the endermen could make a path of grass then a path of flowers and have the flowers catch on fire themselves using lava or something, then the fire can perfectly spread to the portal lighting it in the same way you light portals on skyblock

[@solalabell9674]

Imagine leaving your world running for a while then remember you left it afk but now there’s a hole to the portal and no dragon but giant craters and staircases in the end

[@3vil72]

HeRoBrInE!!1

[@SquishyFerret]

@@3vil72 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[@NguyenHuuTri2008]

@@SquishyFerret he meant it was herobrine who did it (its obviously a joke lmao)

[@SquishyFerret]

@@NguyenHuuTri2008 (I thought he was serious and having no clue about this video)

[@dave2.077]

"for a while" in this context is the greatest understatement i have ever come across and prodably will in my life. whoops left my pc running for googolplex amounts of universe lifetimes.

[@shapeswitch_mood7221]

I wish there were a mod that give way more life and dynamic to the game: Trees grows and dies, biomes changes, animals migrates, villages and pillagers expand and vanish... Heck, even the rain corrode the landscape.

[@cthulhufhtagn7520]

Erode

[@TheCollectiveHexagon]

whats the mod name please?

[@cthulhufhtagn7520]

@@TheCollectiveHexagon doesn't exist

[@innacrisis6991]

@@cthulhufhtagn7520 some of them do, for example, Dynamic Trees makes trees (and by extension forests) grow and die realistically over time. There are several mods which add seasons, but a favourite of mine is Serene Seasons. Different seasons have different weather, temperatures, rainfall, foliage, etc. As the seasons change, snow will fall and melt (even in biomes that wouldn't usually have any), leaves will flourish and wither, and the terrain will live and breathe with a life of it's own. As far as the villages go, I'm almost certain there are mods for that, but I don't know about animal migrations. Rain weathering the landscape might be insanely hard to find - it's the only one in this list that might not actually exist yet. But the rest of what you mention is actually possible!

[@salvadorhenriquez4091]

@@innacrisis6991 i personally think that they should add erosion caused from rivers, ir maybe a winter season, where there's a lot of ice and snow, when summer comes, all that turns into water, causing floods, that would be very cool

[@TheStudioArchitect]

The Enderman, Skeleton, and Snow Golem are my new favorite trio, and I want to see a sequel with them as the main characters again. Mr. Retro, please make a sequel, I wanna know more lore!

[@soulbounddoll1826]

Don't forget the foxes. 🦊 🐲 🥚 🦊 🐲 ✈

[@puzzlegal17]

Yes, the fox is the coolest mob.

[@Eroornate]

Now this might really prove that endermans were humans before, and when their mind got imprisoned by the ender dragon, they still have the most basic things a player can do in their subconsciousness

[@inkarnator7717]

This is on the level of being able to levitate in real life because the air molecules around you randomly acted in a certain way.

[@BatuhanDere]

Or noclipping into something cuz the atoms dodged every single atom inside your body. BACKROOMS REAL?!????!??!??!

[@isaacpaintsemrouboanderline.]

@@BatuhanDere and escaping the backrooms because it generated the exit

[@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz]

@@BatuhanDere quantum teleportation is also a thing

[@justADeni]

it's really not. Brownian motion cannot just stop existing, period. However a sequence of incredibly unlikely, but possible events will ALWAYS occur given enough time (ad infinitum). For more information, look up Infinite monkey theorem

[@inkarnator7717]

​@@justADeni Yeah, it will. The question is, will there be anyone around to witness it.

[@ContagiousRepublic]

The infinite monkey theorem states that with enough creeper, ALL of explodable blocks in minecraft can be exploded.

[@kalumW]

Every block is explodable, even bedrock i think

[@moronicfuckingidiot3666]

@@kalumW what.

[@moronicfuckingidiot3666]

@@kalumW how is bedrock explodable.

[@a26lolheart]

@@kalumW only with glitches, and it's neccesary for a player to be there to do it as it has complex redstone.

[@Bea_itself]

@@a26lolheart and endermans can't carry redstone

[@NickReagan1]

Man this guy was Dream's inspiration. "If all of this could happen then a slight improvement to RNG wouldn't hurt!"

[@laffy7204]

I think in order for this to work, you can't just let one world run infinitely, you have to let infinite world generate and ran infinitely to produce these results

[@abhijiths5237]

11:00 three seeds have been found where a ruined portal generated below an obsidian room of the woodland mansion and is completed. Also the lava in the ruined portal can spread fire to nearby Blocks and thereby lighting the portal

[@slevinchannel7589]

Logic-Error with the Enderdragon that leaves him undefeated: he would kill them QUICKER than the 'random chances' can happen. Remember, we're talking about 'Infinity over Time', not 'Infinity at Once'. No matter how much times passes, it will NEVER happen that such a massive amount of Mobs as needed will be in the End at the same time.

[@aaronking2020]

Doesn't matter how many Enderman die, as long as 1 enderman can place 1 block before dying, 1000 enderman can build a staircase to the crystals, and once the crystals are all gone, it's only a matter of time.

[@cowboybarbaryn1302]

Now we just need to find one of these seeds that lines up with a completed end portal seed

[@simic0racle157]

@@aaronking2020 except that the dragon flying aroud will remove blocks faster than the endermen could ever hope to build, also the dragon doen't attack endermen

[@Hacker1o1]

Guys the enderdragon wouldn't shoot enderman

[@VixYW]

Other things that would eventually happen: All forests would burn down by lightning/exposed lava lakes until there's no tree left in the world; All villages with an active farmer and enough houses would be wiped out by zombie attacks; Ghasts would move from the nether to all 3 dimensions, making the ender dragon battle easier if they get there before the dragon was defeated (I guess? not sure how they interact with mobs outside the nether); And a funny thought: a world without a player is a world without Phantoms.

[@cognisentnt8613]

On the forests burning down, lightning can't spread fire very far (unless the random tick speed is very very high) due to lightning only happening during rain.

[@captaintoad-ef6zt]

@@cognisentnt8613 yeah but if it rains an infinite amount of times then it will eventually happen

[@Sietruc]

Would the world be covered with snow after snow golems eventually walking on every block?

[@VixYW]

@@Sietruc I don't think so... rain wipes snow out, right?

[@captaintoad-ef6zt]

@@Sietruc no, pumpkins only spawn once per world gen and in a finite world that number is pitifully low

[@anthonydean8558]

I know my hardcore world is getting old when I start finding caves full of sand, gravel, grass etc. I find it funny and it makes the world feel more alive

[@Lampe2020]

5:21 Endermen can also pick up TNT from desert pyramids if a cave exposes it.

[@guy-]

Yeah

[@Inspirator_AG112]

That can generate?! Seed?

[@Lampe2020]

​@@Inspirator_AG112 I haven't actually found any yet, but it's possible, as in seed *-7155247851033793149* at coords *-1173 65 -869* there is a desert temple that, when loaded in from the east, collides with an underground lava pool which cuts off part of the TNT (and unfortunately hides it under a new layer of stone) and replaces the sandstone under the pressure plate with air.

[@luki7614]

Player: don't want to beat the game The game: fine i'll do it myself

[@MikeyGamer-vy2ir]

underrated comment

[@InfiniteP6]

@@MikeyGamer-vy2ir Agreed!

[@-_wanderer]

Only 2 replies? Fixed

[@sepherioth5568]

Only three replies!?! Fixed.

[@30.lehoanggiaphuc61]

only 4 replies ? Fixed

[@DerangedIntellectual9]

I had a philosophical talk about this with my friend who was also into the game last year. I’m glad it’s getting recognition. Imagine if the Minecraft world simply existed as it did without the exerted will of one highly intelligent, undying being. One of our key points was that from the standpoint of the Minecraft world, it sees a player in the flesh as a humanoid, average height, blocky figure. But the truth is inside the mind of the player exists in a whole other dimension (the real world), and observes the Minecraft world omnipotently.

[@obbbob4911]

Love this comment

[@obiomajronyekwere4469]

Speakin facs rn

[@cameron6538]

me playing hardcore really disputes the "highly intelligent " and "undying" part

[@citl6489]

give bergson a read

[@ifroad33]

Fun concept, very cool! Cosmic bit shifts that randomly causes the dragon to spawn and instantly die are probably more likely than this lol.

[@Wrenosaur_]

Imagine an enderman just blowing up your house then beating the game for you

[@SmartassX1]

Things that would realistically happen: evokers, vindicators, piglin brutes, turtles and possibly some more would certainly go extinct. Mostly by random accidents. Villages would eventually get blown up by creepers. Once the last bed is gone, the villagers are also dead.

[@gagne6928]

The bad ending

[@22tfortnitevevo]

this is set in an infinite world

[@SmartassX1]

@@22tfortnitevevo Yes, that's right.

[@eisaibrahim698]

Then another bacteria comes to earth and make new creatures.

[@HappyGingerWolf]

Don't turtles spawn naturally? That might be bedrock only

[@boriszahariev2373]

"The world is a canvas, the blocks are the paint and the player is the artist." Bro u are such a good poet

[@sad-7477]

I have said that exact quote as a kid before lol. I thought I was the original

[@RGC_animation]

And then somehow the paint can fall in just the right place to create the Mona Lisa.

[@RetroGamingNow]

I wouldn't go that far haha, but I appreciate it!

[@unifiedcodetheory8406]

"The world is your canvas" is an incredibly old saying. Nothing about that phrasing was new, original, or impressive in any way.

[@Ri_Guy16]

The new rarest naturally generated mob: A fox with an elytra

[@gloweye]

Since these are pseudorandom numbers that power the mobs, they are cyclic, and it's very possible there is no seed that can have an RNG cycle leading to this. In fact, I'd say it is VERY likely for that to be the case.

[@schwingedeshaehers]

I don't think that the rng cycle is connected with the seed

[@ib_res2566]

​@@schwingedeshaehersa seed is used for all random number generators in all computer applications. You're right that the world seed is not connected, but there's also a seed used to create random numbers from. It could be anything from the time and date to your favorite word :)

[@renakunisaki]

You'd need to use a mod that replaces the RNG with truly random input from a hardware RNG. Then it would technically be possible.

[@rigelbound6749]

​​@@renakunisakiwell technically it wouldn't be possible since only a limited number of mobs can spawn in a limited radius around the player, and all mobs despawn after a very short amount of time or when the player gets far enough away. And that's without even mentioning render distance. So basically the game does need the player for things to happen.

[@AntZ..]

Even cyclic rngs Will produce different results, for example the path of a mob can have a ciclic rng but when it cycles the starting position of the mob Will be different.

[@Mini-Toast_]

*"These creatures require our absence to survive, not our help. And if we could only step aside and trust in nature, life will find a way."*

[@maybewinter]

Jurassic world?

[@finnian5588]

that's what she said

[@MigWith]

@@maybewinter John Hammond's speech in Jurassic park the lost world's end scene.

[@banan9432]

@@MigWith you mean Ian Malcom?

[@avery3024]

@banan no at the end of the post world Hammond makes this speech, using Ian’s famous quote.

[@PippenFTS]

I'm gonna be honest, I think this is one of the best Minecraft videos on KZbin. You totally undersold it with the title as well

[@titanicbigship]

hk

[@10stvr]

hk

[@flameyoshi07]

hk

[@parhamjahanshahi1809]

hk

[@k.i.c6463]

hk

[@2plus2equals98]

The longest possible Minecraft speedrun wouldn’t be sitting around but be the speedrun let Actively avoiding this situation

[@vsl5455]

The problem with the prelit endportal is, that the seeds it exists on are never naturally chosen by the World generator, only if manually typed in. So the World does in fact need the player or else the chance of the portal being lit is infact 0%

[@PidroBondar]

Time could be infinite but there will be a time eventually when nothing will ever change or happen anymore, kinda like the universe's heat death theory, here's why: Creepers will sometimes explode, given enough time, creepers will explode the whole world down to bedrock, but mobs can't spawn in bedrock so the whole world ends up dying essentially. Im gonna call this the "Minecraft Entropy Death Theory"

[@jamesgabor9284]

It wouldn’t happen because explosions do not damage blocks in water, and even if endermen drain the entire ocean, there are going to be some water sources in caves or somewhere else which can’t be destroyed, say if they have obsidian over them

[@Tocaraca]

@@jamesgabor9284 Also, creepers can't destroy obsidian anyway

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@Tocaraca What could happen is that the main end island is reduced to nothing one block, preventing the crystals from ever being reached.

[@PippenFTS]

@@jamesgabor9284 Water prevents spawning as well, so while creepers couldn't reduce the whole world down to bedrock where nothing can spawn, essentially the same result will happen, but with bedrock plus blocks covered with water

[@oguzzc]

That's insane, imagine a game defeating itself, by itself. Even without any player interaction. That's actually crazy.

[@hansjerkov4911]

dying of old age but for video games

[@carzybacon47]

It won’t. You have to be in the area for chunks to be active

[@ChasishOnYouTube]

@@carzybacon47 That's all I could think about throughout this video.

[@carzybacon47]

@@ChasishOnKZbin yea it’s kinda pointless

[@Johnson-br2lw]

Wasn't there something like that in oblivion before Bethesda took it out?

[@IronicHavoc]

IIRC the idea that in infinite time a mob will eventually reach any position only applies when its movement is reducible to a 2D random walk (though to be fair that probably is the case for most of them).

[@thats_inaccurate]

Exactly what i was thinking! I was trying to figure out if there were any weird edge case scenarios that could make it not so. It is though fascinating how precarious it seems to be, the difference between 2 and 3D random walks

[@nersharific813]

This video is like when your OCD tries to convince you that stepping on more than ten cracks on the sidewalk will cause your family to die.

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

It'd be neat if someone did a TAS where they manually set RNG values each frame to get the mobs to do this

[@nukl3argam3r38]

That was my Idea!

[@Graverman]

You can do it yourself you know, download loTAS mod, watch some tutorials, set yourself into spectator mode, and use “AI Manipulation” function. It’s a bit glitchy but it should work.

[@luizcastro5246]

bruh that would perhaps be impossible, even in an automatic way digging through hundreds of possibilities per frame for several minutes if not hours could be unfeasable. But it would be cool if someone found a way to maniuplate rng and make this INSANE thing happen. You don't understand just how unlikely this is, doing it "naturally" would take 10 to the power of x minutes, but x itself would be a HUMONGOUS number and basically it would take fing forever.

[@AlinaAniretake]

Sounds like nice Low Percent for me)

[@rom4898]

@@luizcastro5246 You can actually modify some of the variables as they do take some memory in the ram.

[@mf6610]

I feel like there should be a story based on this

[@JasminUwU]

it's called the library of babel

[@PlatinumBin]

same

[@abrario]

There’s a video about this kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJfRdJt5e66CqMk it’s pretty close to what happens

[@lucaswallo8127]

@@JasminUwU What's that

[@lucaswallo8127]

@@abrario wdym

[@grahamgrigsby4641]

The best part of infinity is that not only has this exact set of events happened once, but it has happened an infinite amount of times within that world, as well as every other possible random outcome happening infinite amount of times.

[@BrochetteBoeufFromage]

no because minecraft worlds are not infinite, so if the enderman are dumb and decide to use every single TNT blocks, the possibilities won't be endless

[@BrochetteBoeufFromage]

@@macaroon_nuggets8008 I do not understand what it does have to do with Minecraft, and the universe is infinite but not the ressource we can get, and the earth don't have an infinite amount of time

[@preifever]

can't wait to see a "I drained an ocean monument" video uploaded by an enderman in billions of years

[@3njooo]

If the fox with the elytra then returns to the overworld and finds a sweet berry bush, it will take the berries and drop the elytra, which can be picked up by a zombie. I don't think it can use the elytra, but at least it equipped it.

[@DavidStrchld]

I think they can use it only as a glider, though that may be a mod I saw.

[@AgusSkywalker]

Foxes can't return to the overworld. Gateways only generate above the ground and since Endermen can't manipulate any end block, making a stair to the gateway is impossible and foxes can't return to the central island. If a fox ends up in an end ship, there it will stay.

[@RGC_animation]

@@AgusSkywalker But what if the End Portal just so happens to generate on floor of the end ship, the fox could just walk back.

[@rz2374]

@@AgusSkywalker Perhaps they could get levitation from shulkers and fly in. The shulker would be shooting because of a baby zoglin also in the ship.

[@spectorcsm]

@@rz2374 Actually there are 3 shulkers on each End ship, and assuming the Zoglins somehow didn't kill the one on the ledge outside (Actually they'd just float and die of fall damage if they tried) the fox could actually float into the gateway again... EDIT: Assuming that is that the seeking bullets of the shulkers somehow missed, or the fox jumped in the way of the zoglin and took the shot, I don't actually know if Shulkers would straight up target a fox

[@ahanucasey1227]

I love how at 1:46 all the sheep stay in pretty much the same spot through the timelapse while that one runs around them in circles like the world's on fire...

[@torsoup8276]

Don't know how I laughed seeing the chaotic sheep

[@revivesyourgolder3130]

its pretty weird since for some reason changing your gamemode to spectator mode somehow changes the way mobs behave

[@ferozemohammed5339]

200th like!

[@LuckySparkles]

Pretty sure it's a goat running around, but still pretty funny to see. xD

[@tonkbutsmaller8008]

Made me laugh 🤣

[@kajacx]

One thing to consider is if it is even possible to spawn that much tnt. The world is finite, so it is likely that all the tnt would go to waste and nothing interesting would happen. But then you could consider starting a different world, ot even running infinitely many different worlds in in parallel. There are only so many random seeds, and the random generator isn't perfect, but if we assume a "true" random generator could be used, then yea the start would eventually align in one of these worlds after enough time.

[@descuddlebat]

Two things get in the way of this being equivalent to infinite monkey theorem, pseudorandom numbers and finite TNT, but putting that aside is fair for a thought experiment

[@HazhMcMoor]

I was surprised he just handwaved those TNT numbers.

[@saranshgupta3517]

There is one issue with all this: random number generators in computers arent completely random. They do have faint patterns. You plot the outputs of a large no of random outputs onto a paper, you will see them. I have no idea how this will effect mob movement, but it COULD make the specified sequence of events impossible.

[@RetroGamingNow]

Yes, I assumed totally random generation - something I should have mentioned in the vid. Nice catch.

[@JamesTDG]

simply put, monkies on a typewriter?

[@le9038]

There have been people that have guessed the randomness of digital casino cranks and gotten money off of it

[@KatzRool]

@@RetroGamingNow Totally random number generators would make seeds useless, or at least make them not generate the same world each time. On top of that, despite tending towards "normal" generation, if you actually used random numbers you could extrapolate what you talked about in the video to include the world generating in *extremely* weird ways.

[@cubicinfinity2]

Could is an important word to use. Maybe a mob cant climb all the way up a one block wide staircase, but if enough blocks are placed to make it more like a pyramid, then it could be possible. The variations in the world and the motions of the mobs (including colliding with each other) also lead to a high level of chaos, such that the pseudo random inputs will lead to nearly random behavior. Even with the rounding of values, I think it would be possible*.

[@Llamaproductionss]

This dude never runs out of theories and I love it

[@Noobster15]

He never runs out of theories… like a bantha

[@retardednotoriousmf7902]

@@Noobster15 Bruh

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe1g6muoZWIkKc You Missed it

[@AnthemAnimation]

@@Noobster15 forced meme

[@CountDoDo]

Party because they have an entire discord server that pumps out like 10 a day. But, that doesn't exist, nah, totally not.

[@Super-zn5fb]

7:42 There is one major problem with this. Enderman can't pick up obsidian or end stone, and the dragon, flying around, will destroy anything the poor endermen will build, far quicker than they can place. And I know the whole point of this thought experiment, is that the most unlikely of possibilities will eventually occur, but it's virtually impossible, even under this hyper-long duration, that anything would be built in the end.

[@seanrrr]

Agreed. And this whole thing relies on Endermen obtaining TNT from woodland mansions or carved pumpkins from illager outposts, both of which are finite in the world. The vast, vast majority of these uses (random TNT explosions, snow golems getting killed by mobs) will be wasted on random events nowhere near the end portal. I'm very skeptical that the dragon could be killed before every TNT and pumpkin block in the world are gone.

[@TVFLabs]

Something to add on to this: IIRC, as of a recent update (1.20 I think, though I don't remember for sure), *all* RNG in Minecraft (that is, instead of just world generation) is now determined by the world seed. In a normal playthrough where the player actually does stuff, this has very little effect on gameplay because the exact time that something happens at (as far as I'm aware) combined with the world seed is what determines the final result of the number generator. BUT! In a world where no player does anything, everything would happen in the same order every time the world is generated for any given seed. What this means is that there is technically an optimal seed for an inputless speedrun. Oh, and considering that finding the seed to generate a particular world is a popular hobby in the Minecraft community (like they did with pack.png), well, if I'm right about this then hypothetically this hypothetical optimal seed could hypothetically be found. It's important to note that I didn't research this all that much and I could very much be completely wrong. If someone with more knowledge on this matter would like to confirm or correct any of what I've said, be my guest.

[@OpFMJ]

The fact that this is technically possible is genuinely insane.

[@mundaner-1163]

Insane!?

[@jamesjesus1828]

@@mundaner-1163 Insane!

[@mundaner-1163]

@@jamesjesus1828 😲🤯

[@Danymok]

there are two types of probabilities presented in the video,which I found interesting. Some things are guaranteed to happen after an infinite amount of time on any world, such as the builds the Endermen could make, but also the kind that is not guaranteed, such as the End Portal generating with all eyes of Ender.

[@RetroGamingNow]

Yes, there’s a subtlety there which I didn’t elaborate upon. I’m assuming that all things I need exist within a seed somewhere but it’s totally possible that there isn’t a seed like that

[@HouseBricksDoor187]

if the world is also infinitely large it should be possible to do it all on any random seed

[@random3250]

@@HouseBricksDoor187 the world isn't technically infinite. It is limited by the interger limit, and can only be around 64,000,000^2 blocks squared.

[@HouseBricksDoor187]

@@random3250 im saying *if* the world was infinitely large

[@Kaje_]

@@RetroGamingNow The main problem is though that mobs spawning does not happen at all when a player is not present. That kinda makes the whole premise fall apart, unfortunately.

[@golden_gloo]

At these absurdly long time scales external cosmic rays could play a part in beating the game. All that needs to happen is for one to hit the device Minecraft is being played on and for it to hit the exact right transistor in order to cause some effect in the game. At even more absurd time scales quantum fluctuations could play Minecraft with a Boltzmann Brain-esque approach.

[@decract]

Enderman: Builder (The Mastermind) Fox: Item Transporter Creeper: Miner Skeleton: TNT Igniter Snow Golem: Triggerer Zombie: Ice bridge Builder Zoglin: Far End Island Attacker Player: Lazy

[@mahlawn2808]

The part with the skeleton jockey makes me think of a scene where the spider giggles maniacally as it charges towards the end gateway, while the skeleton screams in terror, yelling "PUT ME DOWN! _PUT ME DOWN!"_

[@amandapanda5087]

Lol 😂

[@sohamroy5234]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Weldedhodag]

"Mobs moving around isn't interesting" you're wrong, watching a chicken walk around for a little bit is very entertaining because chickens are cute

[@koolam6914]

indeed

[@tamplushboy8452]

Watching my dog murder something is also entertaining its just a game well minecrafts more then that but ykwim it isn’t real so I destroy villages if there lucky I won’t kill them or there iron golem tho i should keep the iron goldm there

[@johndoesstuff352]

@@tamplushboy8452 wise

[@tamplushboy8452]

@@johndoesstuff352 indeed my nigga

[@atanaZion]

@@tamplushboy8452 Lmao

[@fulviogregoriopalma8425]

11:14 Some time ago i had a world which had a Ruined Portal with 1 missing obisidian block. That obsidian block was just placed in front of it, I only needed a diamond pickaxe to relocate it in the hole of the Ruined Portal

[@gerardmatthieu907]

While many event seems unlikely but are still technically possible , you should specify that this world is infinite in order to generate enough mansion ( thus tnt ) or assume many of the explosion would have to be done by creepers.

[@danielrhouck]

This depends on having a lot of TNT, but TNT is barely a renewable block even with player input and certainly not without. Fortunately, *most* of the uses are in fact doable by creepers.

[@realtimestatic]

Or just with some really lucky odds

[@danielrhouck]

@@realtimestatic With things that are renewable without a player, you can say that with probability 1 they will eventually happen. It’s more likely the TNT-dependent things just never will because you’ll use it up first

[@scatmanhi7837]

@@danielrhouck well minecraft had infinity world generation so technically there is infinite tnt

[@danielrhouck]

@@scatmanhi7837 World border 30 million blocks out

[@scatmanhi7837]

@@danielrhouck my apologies i kind of forgot about them since i don't think I've ever actually made it to it in game

[@flyingdoggo316]

"The world is a canvas, the blocks are the paint, and the player is the artist'' -RetroGamingNow

[@blakethesnake6686]

Autist*

[@luigi1652]

Such a beautiful quote from RetroGamingNow

[@milotic3333]

@@blakethesnake6686 perhaps

[@awesomeninja1311]

Well apparently the endermen and skeletons and snowgolems are also artists

[@epicpancake9750]

😊

[@SprayInk-And-CritGlitch]

Literally the fourth line of the video "Even if the player does nothing, things happen in the world", It only applies if it is inside loaded Chunks, otherwise, nothing moves.

[@SprayInk-And-CritGlitch]

Yes, I understand that it is a hypothetical case where these things do not apply, but it was necessary to take into account that this would not really happen in normal situations.

[@randommemeaddict249]

"When dealing with infinites, improbable is just certianty waiting its turn."

[@Rayanial]

I could like imagine someone trying to get into the end portal and getting confused because of the end portal being completed.

[@texugo_branco]

It can actually happen, its really rare but some seeds have already completed portals

[@t34calliope]

That’s a one in a 1 in a 1,000,000,000 chance and that’s not an exaggeration

[@linuslucke3838]

@@t34calliope 1 in 1t not 1 in 1b so another 1000 times rarer

[@ItIsJan]

there wouldnt be the sound, as the sound is played when you activate a portal, but the seeds with activated portals area lready activated

[@pengun835]

piropito then just ignores the end portal entirely cause he thinks its some random room with strange blocks he cant break

[@eetuthereindeer6671]

I used to play yogbox mod in 2012 or something... it had advanced villagers that actually updated the village themselves. They built new houses when they got the materials and if you befriended them, they would even build a house for you block by block. I was so amazed to see such advanced AI in 2012. What a great mod

[@jessyhovington1587]

the mod is millenaire

[@OCinneide]

@@jessyhovington1587 it’s being updated above version 1.12.2 where it is today.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

Wha- fireß- dihdjd. Friends! ;-;

[@eetuthereindeer6671]

@@OCinneide nowadays I only have bedrock edition so I can't play :( I miss it

[@molrat]

jk

[@anonymousartist2839]

There's another insane possibility : You left a monkey with a phone & he beats the ender dragon Assumptions : 1. The phone is always connected to charger 2. There is infinite food for monkey 3. The phone doesn't get damaged/old age

[@Awesomeplayer98]

This is a classic

[@prisma.]

i feel like the heat death of the universe could occurs a quadrillion times over before any of this just happens by chance, that's how low the chances of this are, interesting story nonetheless tho

[@Thepreacher_1]

The moment they deafeat the ender dragon that Karen's no longer exists

[@masculineman123]

Given an infinite amount of time anything that can happen will happen an infinite amount of times

[@Q_z_]

I'd argue that the chances are even lower than that. I feel like to make it comparable the universe would have to have its heat death occur a quadrillion times and in each of those universes my dad comes home with the milk.

[@bigbangzebraman351]

it could also happen exactly tomorrow. Random statistics are interesting because while the chances are close to zero, there is still a chance of it happening any time.

[@spiceforspice3461]

@@bigbangzebraman351 No, it couldn't because it isn't possible for a minecraft world to have every chunk loaded at once.

[@moonlightshadowpony]

Enough randomly fired arrows could eventually kill an evoker, resulting in the dropping of a totem of undying, meaning zombies and foxes can hold this rare item. not to mention, a close enough cave next to the desert pyramid and a few explosions at just the right place could result in the tnt being near enough to the tnt under the pyramid to make other things a lot easier. Also iron golems spawn naturally in villages that are big enough, and naturally repopulate if there are enough beds and a farmer villager, meaning that an iron golem could technically wander to the end. When the dragon is close enough the golems will try to attack and while they're not successful most of the time they can still produce a small amount of damage here and there.

[@pengun835]

the tnt room could also generate in such a way where the structure is clipped by some cave generation in a way where the endermen could take it from below, or from the side if they cant take hanging blocks

[@MadGaming10]

Fox picking up an elytra would require not just an infinite amount of time, but also an infinite amount of new world seeds. As once the elytra drops it will despawn eventually

[@ilovecolton911]

This is me explaining to my friend how I wasn't the one who blew up his base

[@duqqs9369]

Retro is becoming the Game Theorist without humor.... *I LOVE IT*

[@npc4416]

matpat always neglects the points which are not in his favour, just wants to make a spicy theory for views rather than trying to find the actual truth

[@maisymoe]

You telling me that "blows the door of possibilities wide open" after talking about TNT isn't humour?

[@AstralShot]

@@npc4416 not really more of his newer theories he does look at plot points

[@polyphorge6621]

@@AstralShot cope

[@_ish]

@@polyphorge6621 ??

[@theworldmachineos7247]

rays from space sometimes, very rarely, flip bits in computers to different values. if those rays from space hit the computer enough times in enough precise ways, an ai player could be coded into the game, who would be able to use the elytra, kill the ender dragon, and do anything a normal player would be able to do.

[@mikael8276]

So if you see a fox holding Elytra on its mouth, take a screenshot.

[@RGC_animation]

The MPV of this is the Enderman, if the Enderman ever got smart enough and wanted to save their fellow Enderman from the End, they could do it.

[@hellomine2849]

Most player valuable haha

[@Schoobyy]

Seems like something that would "luckily" happen in Dream's speedrun.

[@FanumRizzler2000]

"Given enough time, anything that a non-zero chance of happening, will happen." - Sciencephile the AI

[@ryanside7095]

“Minecraft ain’t going to beat itself!” Achkshully 🤓