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[@emeryemond7904]

This amp with PC sound is EXCELLENT !!!

[@stephencutajar2548]

As you have the transducers facing each other, you should try swapping the polarity of one of them so they don't cancel each other out. As they are, the coils push towards each other at the same time, having the polarity of one swapped you would have one coil pushing and the other pulling so enhancing the vibration from left to right as you're sitting. You can instead, mount one of the transducers on the inside so they both face the same direction and not each other.

[@SimRacingCorner]

Thanks Stephen, that's very interesting. I will try that and see if I can tell a difference. I do appreciate the detailed explanation.

[@michellubbers8239]

That was my first idea also to put the exiters in a 180 degree phase.

[@Bons1981]

Great, i will receive the body shakers tomorrow, already made the base to mount them on, great tutorial!

[@SimRacingCorner]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@raventrax3287]

Hello, I made a parallel assembly of 3 of these bass shakers. Do you know what type of amp I should use to make them work?

[@Bons1981]

It works great! What a addition to my playseat. I'm currently using my Fosi Audio BT20A amp, which has a high and bass knob. I'm curious if a small amp with a subwoofer output will be a better effect? (i'm using a console, so i can't edit the output/audio with simhub).

[@ptitbenable]

You should use a H bridge to pilot the transductor by the audio signal, and use a low pass filter.

[@bennaylor7047]

try mounting them on the runner above make some spacers 2 angle the speakers so they rub on edge of seat will make a massive difference cheers Ben

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

When soldering bare wire t oterminals, shrink tubing will help strengthen connection.

[@deemybutt]

Great channel, thanks for all the info, have a choice between simsteering 2 and simucube 2, ignore costs, which would you go for?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I would honestly expect the same performance. Software set up is quite different though. Simsteering is super simple. But there are presets for Simucube, so it should be hassle free also.

[@RVRCloset]

Great video once again buddy!💪👍👌

[@SimRacingCorner]

Thanks fella. I noticed you've started to get some Wreckfesting in. How's the FFB feeling on the Clubsport?

[@RVRCloset]

@@SimRacingCorner Yes, was a backer, so have had it since 2014, but never tried it with a wheel untill now.. .😁 FFB feels pretty good, but sadly no support for the motion in NLR software yet.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@RVRCloset I bought it in Early Access too way back when. I don't think telemetry output is ever going to happen which is a shame.

[@RVRCloset]

@@SimRacingCorner Yeah, never thought it would get done..😅 That's too bad, would be even more fun with motion!

[@Munky332]

So what's the deal today (2021/2022)? Nobsound NS-03G is like 35$, and dedicated 100w bass amplifier. two shaker subs I've been looking at are the Dayton Audio BST-1 and the AuraSound AST-2B-4. I'm only planning on probably 1 shaker, I don't want it super shakey (punchy, rather -- ie powerful), I'd prefer "frequency response" over power. I'm going to be putting this on my "office" type chair which is currently built for flight sim. I'm only doing flight sims (DCS, il2, and MSFS) no racing. What software do I need? any recommendations for alternative equipment? trying to stay on a somewhat budget (70$ for the AST-2B and 35$ for the amp, I have speaker wire) so budget is around 100$

[@normanrobinson1932]

An execellent review with a credible amount of research backing your results. 👍👌 As an actual owner of (4) "ButtKicker" transducers in use on my chassis/rig and noting the cost of my solution I have some measure of buyers remorse after watching this episode...!!! 🤔😳 Had this content been available 9 months ago I would've been in a better mode this morning. 🤔🤨👌 Great production, hopefully this will assist others going forward in our/their quest for more life like SIM Racing...!!! 👍😎👌

[@SimRacingCorner]

Thanks Norman. Don't be saddened, even though there is a degree of diminishing returns when you spend more, your Buttkickers will provide overall better performance than these budget shakers for sure. One thing I don't know at this point is the reliability over the longterm.

[@Yosser70]

Really interesting setup, think I’ll give it a try. Thinking ahead, if I wanted to add a second amp, could I run them both into a usb hub mounter on my rig, rather than having 2 cables running from my pc?

[@SimRacingCorner]

That should be okay, my amp is plugged into a USB hub.

[@felixb.59]

I don't have a bassshaker yet, but from what I've heard it's important to disconnect the seat vibrations from the rest of the rig, by mounting the seat on some rubber vibration dampers. this would remove the stiffness and should increase the vibrations in the seat

[@purplebooger6410]

I put one between my mattress and box springs without any mounts or anything and listen to sleep music to fall asleep. The sound and bass is ridiculous and the vibrations put me straight to sleep! Nothing fancy or hard to do and it works so unbelievably well.

[@cristian1267]

Is this setup working for consoles?

[@KayoMichiels]

You should have linked the Nobsound G2 amp: you canswitch between an amp or a filtered sub, so that it will either rumble all the time, or just only with low to high frequency sound. I have mounted my bass shaker (salvaged from a Aura Interactor) under my wheel.. and it now acts as the perfect addition to force feedback inputs.

[@Gagliano17]

this ia budget video, that amp is 60+ and the other 35ish, there is always benefits in more expensive, but that makes it less budget :)

[@_xndrzt]

hi, any chance of setting up something similar without having to solder anything? thanks

[@SimRacingCorner]

You can twist the wires around the terminals without soldering and it will work. I just wanted to do a nicer job of it.

[@turbodurbo666]

If you mounted it directly to the seat and another directly to the pedals this would be far superior.

[@aizielarif9354]

Hi, im wondering if i can use a normal car woofer speaker as the shaker ? Need your answer for my diy project thanks so much

[@SimRacingCorner]

It won't to give you anything like the same effect. A bass shaker uses a big weight to create the vibrations.

[@marchinop7278]

Mine worked well fixed to a Playseat challenge via pipe clamps, but broke down quite soon (detached the resin “spring” from the frame).

[@SimRacingCorner]

I made a video on fixing this problem. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGW3aXWth5qml9k

[@kazanboiracing952]

hey how did you fix them exactly to the challenge? i plan to do this also

[@duked19]

Is a cheap amplifier like the Nobsound Amplifier enough for bass shakers? I assumed they can't deal with very low frequencies, like below 30 Hz? Or are those frequencies not necessary to amplify for a shaker? Also, isn't it necessary to cut the incoming frequency? I've been looking at the Reckhorn A-802, but it's way more expensive.

[@SimRacingCorner]

I didn't find the Nobsound Amplifier to be quite powerful enough here. But that's partly due to the stiffness of the seat frame.

[@SwiftCookie]

Hey buddy! Are you still using these? Have they lasted? Cheers!

[@prod.MRBLOXY]

when i saw this on amazon i thought it was a beyblade

[@SimRacingCorner]

Ha, I see what you mean!

[@gregpruitt1647]

If you use 2 of the mini amps with both sound cards connected, is this a problem for MS Windows? Also, are there any latency problems with the USB sound cards in the mini amps?

[@SimRacingCorner]

You can do that, multiple sound cards work with SimHub. I can't detect any latency.

[@menacegtr]

Well done, as you said, mount them straight on the rig, and not on a piece of mdf first really will make a big difference. I mounted mine straight on the side profiles on the P1 and one under the seat and get very strong tactile feedback. The more watts you feed them, the more they will eat it up. Well done on a featured review and explanation.

[@SimRacingCorner]

The MDF plate wasn't a bad thing in the end. Compared to hanging them with just 2-bolts into the profile; using the MDF plate, there are 6 contact points instead of 2. In comparison, it felt the same either way. I will say though, I didn't need to go to that trouble, but worth testing different things out I suppose.

[@seba3420]

I use VR for iRacing. So sound over HDMI. How get I sound also out of the sound card?

[@SimRacingCorner]

This will answer your question ---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/hl7YqWl7rtNgo80

[@EdwinCollingridge]

If you mount them directly to the seat you will have the most of the effect, less distance for the vibrations to travel and less absorption by the frame

[@SimRacingCorner]

I agree if you can do it that way, it's ideal. I did inspect the bottom of my seat for that possibility but there wasn't anything to attach these too without some modification.

[@TomCastellani]

@@SimRacingCorner Time to do some modification :D

[@Kurvz]

I have been running mine for nearly a year and a half now started with 4 shakers, 2 back 2 front, and later added two in the middle, the fronts I have on the sides of my pedals and the middles I have on the side of my wheel based with the rears on the back of my seat. I use three cheap early bird stereo amps, about £16 each with PSU and a generic 7.1 USB sound card, all are controlled by Simhub when using in SIM I have the effect separate left right, front middle and rear, and it really adds to the immersion. It feels amazing when you go over a bump that is first from the front middle and then rear, I really great an in-depth analysis keep up the good work

[@SimRacingCorner]

Thanks dude. You made a compelling argument for a 6 bass shaker setup. I didn't consider that idea before, but it does sound pretty cool and worth considering.

[@JoseFcoBN]

Hello, I differentiate the effects ... I have 8 in corners + 4 in bonnet by telemetry with simhub and 4 under the pedalboard + 4 under the seat + 1 of 12 "in the back connected by audio or another program ... I carry 2 balancing motors (front and rear) for large brakes and motors to notice the speed (same as the wind but for vibration in the seat and chassis and motors in the pedals, a total pass ... 11 ampli + 6 sources 24V. and its preamps. es.aliexpress.com/item/4000169419912.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.45.74bf19dbr9ry3p&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.141932.0&scm_id=1007.13338.141932.0&scm-url=1007.13338.141932.0&pvid=858b722e-1c0e-42f5-aea2-583766be792c

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@JoseFcoBN Wow, that sounds like an impressive setup. Thanks for sharing.

[@francescopanetta19]

Can I mount 2 bodies shakers on just one of these amps or do I need two amps? Thanks

[@SimRacingCorner]

Just one amp. The amp has two channels, one for each shaker.

[@dembol]

How was the Reckhorn BS-200 compared to BodyShaker you've used?

[@SimRacingCorner]

You get what you pay for, the Reckhorn is a more robust product.

[@descent8275]

you should suspend the seat on some rubber feet or something so the seat assembly can move. if its mounted to a super rigit frame it has no chance to move the whole thing.

[@HiRiSC300]

Good advice and this is what I used if interested: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJ191Z6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@vsdfsdfsdfwew]

How did you mount it under the brake/throttle plate?

[@SimRacingCorner]

Basically the same way I attached them to the wood board, but without the wood.

[@thibautberrou2348]

Hello. You still happy of this AMP ? For installation, is it better to put on the chassis or drill the underside of the seat to install BS ? Thanks

[@SimRacingCorner]

I'm now using this one, it's more powerful and works better. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJzXkKuvgJ2mZ9E Better if you can attach it more directly to the seat to get the most out of the tactile.

[@thibautberrou2348]

@@SimRacingCorner Thanks, specs of your look like Nobsound NS-15G PRO available on french amazon. I'm going to take 2 BS 100w with a AMP like this. Thanks.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@thibautberrou2348 That amp will do just fine.

[@relaxedtriathlon7095]

Ibe two very old rockwood B30i here - the effect is great but theyre getting pretty warm (hot) after a few minutes. Is this „too old“ issue or just bad shakers? I mean im not sure if theyre supposed to rumble the whole time (engine & road…). In a film its a „boom“ from Time to time…

[@SimRacingCorner]

If you run them constantly they will overheat, that's expected.

[@relaxedtriathlon7095]

@@SimRacingCorner low paas filter option in Simhub heped a lot 🙈

[@J273]

Ive just bought 2 of these + the mini amp you bought. Mounted them directly to my seat with a 1cm gap im very impressed. Would you recommend Simhub or Simvibe to control them? Thanks

[@SimRacingCorner]

SimVibe does a better jobs with the effects. I have both software. SimHub is still good and free.

[@Mr_Latte_UK]

@@SimRacingCorner Errr Simhub is indeed free, (but give dev a donation) and save @ $90. Simhub has more potential and effects possibilities than Simvibe, with more control over channels and the ability to copy/paste layers as well. You should also consider trying the "Nobsound NS 20G" with its higher wattage capability and 19V PSU. Care should be taken however not to overdo the wattage beyond the recommended specs of the units being used. You need to take into account when installing tactile units how/where the energy can disperse. For instance in this video, how do you make the vibrations go up into the seat instead of down and through parts of the frame which you wont even feel? Therefore you want the direct energy to go into the designated target areas (seat/pedals) FIRST (determining its possible path) and the (seat/pedals) sections to also be isolated (decoupled) from the main rig frame. This will help maintain the vibrational energy where you want/need it.

[@gemmaralero1638]

Would this be possible to mount it on a playstation ps4 console? thanks friend

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes, but you you'll need an audio splitter of some kind to output the audio to the bass shaker amp.

[@luminousfractal420]

Just got 2x 60w vidtronix xpl7 transducers for $19.99. 20-300hz. Seem decent enough. (Very old crusty website but theyre active on ebay.) And a nice crossover thingy for another 25.

[@revmachine2662]

From which website did you get it bro?

[@joshuabenson2568]

Is that assetto Corsa? What were your camera settings?

[@SimRacingCorner]

Probably Project Cars 2. And that was recorded in VR.

[@haziqesa5339]

i figure out theres a driver for sim tranducer from simxperience. it may work with diy body shaker?

[@haziqesa5339]

now i remember the software name. simvibe

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes, SimVibe works with these too.

[@Simlife101]

@@haziqesa5339 £65 or simhub free lol

[@danielhass4812]

What do you think pros/cons are of bolting one of these directly to the bottom of the seat?

[@SimRacingCorner]

If you can find a way to mount the bass shaker directly to the bottom of the seat, that would be perfect. The only tricky thing is finding a way to hard mount it. It's needs to be a solid enough surface to be able to absorb and distribute the vibrations.

[@danielhass4812]

I was thinking just drilling holes into the bottom of the seat and mounting it directly. Or drill the bass shaker into a long piece of wood, and then drill the wood into the bottom of the seat. Thoughts?

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@danielhass4812 If the seat has a hard base shell, then directly onto the seat is a great idea. Otherwise using wood is fine. If you use these bass shakers, just remember to have a gap between the shaker and the surface as I demonstrated in the video.

[@d.kuna1983]

Can you use 4 channel amplifier and four shakers , will it work same??

[@SimRacingCorner]

Yes that's fine.

[@d.kuna1983]

@@SimRacingCorner thank you very much 👍

[@T_G_C_]

what is exactly the thickness of the mdf board?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The board I'm using is 8mm

[@stuartgibson9755]

These are now £30.00. Still cheaper than Dayton Audio. Worth a punt, so I've bought 4 - one for each wheel.

[@Leynad778]

That's a really cheap solution, but with a bit more money i would recommend to get Sinustech BS-250 and they are probably more reliable. And the Buttkicker LFE is just in another universe regarding tactile power. The video "Shaky Rig #2 with 4x LFE.." shows what's possible, but i would recommend stiffer Brooks-springs as a suspension, which i'm still using even with my GS-5.

[@SimRacingCorner]

I know the stiffness of my profile frame is counter-productive to maximizing the vibrations. As this is a temporary setup until my NLR V3 comes back from repair, I won't be trying to figure a solution. I'll be relocating these two Bodyshakers to the pedals deck.

[@Leynad778]

​@@SimRacingCorner I missed the tactile feedback even while trying both D-Box-Systems and the v3, both twice actually. Motion is just too sluggish to deliver the small bumps rumble strip stuff.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@Leynad778 Certainly, motion and tactile deliver different sensations. I like both, and can quite happily use one or the other. I would imagine most people would choose motion over tactile given the choice if cost wasn't an issue. I do plan to explore putting a transducer in the back of my seat. There's a handy zip opening making a convenient pocket.

[@Leynad778]

@@SimRacingCorner Most people will prefer motion, because they only know soft suspended roadcars and don't have a clue what it's like with a race-suspension. I had just one co-driver lap around Nordschleife and was more impressed by the SoP-vibrations than the g-forces, because that was a new experience. And tactile-feedback feels more accurate with less latency for me since motion apart from hieve is always kind of fake. G-forces can't be properly simulated and it's always a compromise, even with a GS-5. Like under braking your seat pushes you into the seat-belts (i guess you using them) while in a real car your back is more loosing contact with the seat. The GS-5 does the opposite on default for that reason and this feels even more fake, so i switched the function since i'm using seat-belts. The GS-5 can do hieve and i like getting bumped especially while running on straights, but the road-feel comes from my Buttkicker Concert. Might be also a software-thing and SimVibe needs some tweaking to get to it, since the real bump-effects are not on default. With your setup i would go this way: Buttkicker LFE close behind the seat on a wooden plate that can shake, since the V3 takes all the space under the seat. For the 'suspension' (hieve) you need some dampeners and stiff elastomers should do the trick.

[@theVRpilot]

Leynad Jee I recently picked up a BK lfe. Not sure what amp to use with it for my flight sim rig. Any ideas?

[@canadian2fur532]

Bought the same amp but even having it cranked all the way up barely does anything, I have two Dayton Audio pucks connected. Any suggestions?

[@SimRacingCorner]

The placement of the transducers and the material they are attached is crucial. That's something you need to experiment with. The problem with a question like what you asked, is I have no idea of your setup, so I can't give you a more explicit answer.

[@canadian2fur532]

Sim Racing Corner I have them bolted to a piece of wood and using 14 gauge wire from amazon, I don’t have the wires soldered either. I’ve checked the wiring and everything is connected.......

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@canadian2fur532 Have you watched this other video I made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naHMlYShdrt4hMU Would you say the Daytons appear to be performing like mine?

[@canadian2fur532]

Sim Racing Corner I only have one connected for now and no it doesn’t come close to working that good. I have seen in some setting it was at 50% volume so I turned it to 100% but the volume knob on the amp mini still needs to be 100% in order to get any effect.

[@SimRacingCorner]

@@canadian2fur532 As it is a speaker, indeed you need to run the Windows sound volume at 100%, and then control the amp volume for the strength. Just to clarify what amp are you using, and how are you testing the transducers.

[@nikleiser5888]

Any update on this project ?

[@SimRacingCorner]

I haven't done more on under-seat frame-mounted shakers, But have put out a few other bass shaker videos since then. Links to those in the video description.

[@littletimmy4108]

6:00 the purge will commence in 5 minutes

[@lo_fye]

TRY WITHOUT any spacers! You want the most surface area contact possible to conduct the vibrations.

[@SimRacingCorner]

You can't, spacers are required otherwise the shaker can't move as it's flush with the base. I know, I tried that first.

[@Unclog_my_gamecat_backlog]

No crossover?

[@turbodurbo666]

Not needed when you are using simhub or other programs. It only sends certain frequencies. Vibration based telemetry.

[@lordraYden128]

I had the same question👌🏽

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

Kitty!

God only knows what your neighbours or parents think of it in the room underneath :)

[@SimRacingCorner]

It's okay I'm a 👴47-year-old👴 with a house so I don't disturb anyone. But certainly, it should be a consideration depending on your circumstances.

@@SimRacingCorner Haha fair do mate. I'm 43 seperated with kids. I'm lucky I live on a farm and have my rig set up in a converted barn so when I get set up I'll only be disturbing the sheep :)

[@napoleonbonerpant8440]

Speakers need to be broken in. 100w is fine after break in

[@user-lu8mf8vm6r]

THese are bullshit. I am going for the 300watt Buttkicker earthquake, these sounded like flies over my hot soup.