Mini Cargo Bikes Are Coming! // First Look MONoPOLE

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@--onewheelskyward-- 4 ай бұрын

Your comments are right on in terms of the basic cargo questions. The omission of a rear rack really is an issue.

@krangelbarn 4 ай бұрын

Really funky and cool design, but, that price, I've been riding on the Le Petit Porteur OG (French) for a while now, it's the same size, carries more and cost a lot less, the bio version of the MINoPOLE is 4800 CHF, that is 5000 euro. A Le Petit Porteur standard can be had for 1200 euro I love seeing these new bikes and all, but not everyone has that kind of budget They need some spotlight as well, it's with the cheaper bikes for normal people that things get better There shouldnt be a paywall like that for a good bike

@Fatbutnotflat 4 ай бұрын

+1 le petit porteur needs more coverage. also stijn for roadbike oriented small bike.

@harrie205 4 ай бұрын

Yes it’s more expensive but components are also better A comparable LPP would also be 2.5k+(which is still expensive)

@treimar 4 ай бұрын

That belt steering is cool. Very simple and elegant. Much cleaner than a steering rod or cable steering.

@Frostbiker 4 ай бұрын

More durable than cables, but also significantly more expensive.

@feliksisaksen 4 ай бұрын

No rear rack option or mudguards makes this an absolute hard no for me, and for many others too I suspect. As it is now it's a very specific bike for very specific climate, for a very specific person - when it has the potential to be a great bike for many.

@treimar 4 ай бұрын

Has fender mounts.

@kibbee890 4 ай бұрын

Love the term "bio-powered". I'm going to start using it. I was looking for something other than "acoustic" to describe a bike that isn't an e-bike. Since so many people use bike interchangeably.

@bretbender2992 4 ай бұрын

Conventional bike, acoustic bike, analog bike, bio bike, muscle bike, meat-powered bike? 😂

@Ichtyosapiens 4 ай бұрын

For this price it should at least have mudguards and/or dynamo-powered lights or at least an OPTION for one of these....I think it unfortunately is kind of a misdesign (although it undoubtedly looks like fun to ride).

@black.raven.adventures 4 ай бұрын

Some bikes you just look at and immediately fall in love with - this is one of them!

@BlueSuedeAsics 4 ай бұрын

Petite Porteur video please. Looks like a versatile and budget mini cargo bike

@andyamos8594 4 ай бұрын

Interesting look at this new genra of cargo bike. I have just returned from a week in Berlin where cargo bikes are used abundantly as kid transport with both the back and front loading variety. There are a couple of issues I have with small wheels. I used a 20" wheeled Dahon Dash 18 for 5 years commuting after dropping off my kids at school. Firstly, its the ride comfort , smaller wheels= smaller spokes= stiffer feel and also the smallr radius does make a difference with bumps and lumps in the road! Maybe not so much an issue for longer cargo bikes. Secondly, and a real wakeup call to me, was in wet condtions, or even using slick tyres! I was sliding out of control, front wheel seemingly folding under me, on almost a daily basis. I totally understood it when 3 wheeled motobikes started to came onto the market!

@johnfretz1938 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I've been eyeing this bike, as well as the Yoonit, and Vello's Sub, or Reise & Muller's Carrie. I dig the combo of Gates, and Pinion, in a tiny form factor.

@deccawatt5741 4 ай бұрын

Very cool, I really like the size, but too expensive. Also no mud guards is really a problem. As someone mentionned you should check Le Petit Porteur - similar size, mud guards, rear rack included and cheaper.

@bikeyclown4669 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for answering my questions.

@arnoklocke3003 4 ай бұрын

Nice vidéo !!! Regarding the excentric on the bottom of the steerer that holds the bearings, this is what makes the tension of the belt. The overall steerer is not fully concentric with the headtube it's at an angle to be able to accomodate for the dispersion of the belt dimensions and frame length tolerance. It's really a clever way to solutionize the problem.

@yarly3180 4 ай бұрын

This is a bike only a mother could love 😉

@slicedbread9003 4 ай бұрын

I love it and the fact that you are covering cargo bikes. This bike bridges the gap between a cargo bike that and an all around bike. I would ride this no problem without a load and would even consider a tour on it. This clicks all the boxes except one. And I have no problem with the belt for the steering. It is a much better solution than a chain or the rod(s). I like the more compact design. The box it doesn't check is the price. Perhaps we can wait for a forward thinking Taiwanese build if these get any momentum.

@treimar 3 ай бұрын

The steering angle not being limited is very nice. It gets annoying on my Bullitt - need to drive it like a bus. Might build something like this after my son doesn't fit on the Bullitt anymore.

@crosslink1493 2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the Cannondale Hooligan from a few years ago. It came in 7-speed RD or IGH builds, 20" wheels, the RD style was about $600 and the IGH about $1000. It was not a folding bike like so many of the mini-velos in the USA. I was thinking of buying one as a commuter but kept procrastinating until the RD version was eliminated and the IGH was turned into a belt-drive with a $1300 price. The Hooligan came with a bunch of braze-on's so it could fit racks front and rear with a little bit of creative 'fudging'. $5000USD is simply a no-go for me, not to mention I'd rather have a more standard front end, chain drive, standard bottom bracket.

@comounaverdura 4 ай бұрын

I like the questions and answers.

@YakovShilo 4 ай бұрын

Cool cargo bike w\ pinion, andvery simmilar to Yoonit. Is all minicargobikes the same?

@JockeSelin 4 ай бұрын

Like The Carrygo shrunk in the wash. 😎👍🏻👍🏻

@jeffdible8171 4 ай бұрын

Your residence in Spain/EU is definitely bringing a whole new level of alt. If you are doing more cargo bikes I think the convercycle or the Ginkgo cargo bikes might be worth your attention.

@mramazingtroy 4 ай бұрын

That orientation of the pinion could lend itself to being brilliant with a Brompton.

@micfey 4 ай бұрын

North of 8000 what? Apples?

@martimcfly6207 4 ай бұрын

Swiss francs, euro, US dollars. They all have become pretty similar in value.

@clintboyer5303 4 ай бұрын

I’d love to see a custom rectangular frame bag. Or an aluminum attache case that perfectly crams in there.

@kovenant7 3 ай бұрын

It can haul books, it's worth it!

@rwarpig6687 4 ай бұрын

How can it be referred to as a cargo bike if there is no way to run a rear rack?

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

Because it has a big front rack 🤷🏽‍♂️

@rwarpig6687 4 ай бұрын

@@PathLessPedaledTV Yeah, you are correct, but like you suggested, they missed a great opportunity in not having rear eyelets.

@grigoryrechistov3040 4 ай бұрын

A console-type rear rack mounted on the seatpost is always a possibility.

@Bob-bf6du 4 ай бұрын

The rack isn’t parallel to the ground. It has no kickstand. I just don’t see this moving much cargo.

@lesand5484 4 ай бұрын

Maybe you could make the new through-axle quick rack by Ortlieb work with this?

@freespeechoneeach 4 ай бұрын

great channel Russ. always watch your reviews and take your advice. so much so , i dont think my original bike exists anymore, its a completely different bicycle!!

@herethere2518 4 ай бұрын

I run albatross bars (nitto) on my cargo bike (big dummy), have also tried maloko bars (surly). Assuming an appropriate stem, both work wonderfully. I prefer the upright riding position of the albatross around town.

@davidsnow5811 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if a rear rack would work with that Salsa seatpost collar with rackmount attachments. Racks with axle or seat-stay adapters work also, like the Old Man Mountain Divide, or Ortlieb Quick-Rack. A Tailfin would work too, hilariously out of place as it'd be.

@JacobWilson 4 ай бұрын

you should look into Gnargo. they are a Bentonville based Carbobike company.

@BruceChastain 4 ай бұрын

I can dig it.

@AQUPAS 4 ай бұрын

Very unique looking bike, reminds me of a Brompton on steroids

@MitchCrane 4 ай бұрын

The rear triangle supports the rectangular section and the fork is attached to the beefy lower tube. I see no reason to worry about the rectangle. The steerer tube, as they say, ain't going anywhere.

@laurentgriscom5512 4 ай бұрын

Are 24” tires hard to find? And what kind of variety can we get on that size (widths, mtb or road)?

@eltamarindo 4 ай бұрын

Both a very common BMX tire sizes. High quality tires will not be hard to find.

@TheRickurb 4 ай бұрын

I love the concept of 20 inch wheel cargo bikes. The only thing I never hear mentioned is how bad it is with potholes and curbs. I have a Tern quick haul that I am selling to get away from the small wheels. I went over the bars, a couple times, and at my age that is no Bueno. Other than that, small wheels are awesome.

@DanijarHanni-xl9yy 4 ай бұрын

Is it comparible to the Omnium Mini?

@matthewshultz8762 4 ай бұрын

Dang Russ, you slowly got more and more depressed reading the comments as they got more predictable. You're not the brand spokesperson IMO shouldn't even entertain some of the 'design choice' comments. I liked the comparison ones. We have a similar startup bike company in Arkansas called Gnargo that does these frontloaders. I've looked at them before and they're really sweet. This one you reviewed looks creme of the crop. I can't justify the price tag on these bikes though when a trailer is only a few hundred bucks and does 90% of what a cargo bike does. Paying for the integration and extra weight capacity I guess. Although I've towed 80+ lb in my trailer without issues...

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

Getting more depressed as I read comments is my default state :)

@steffix6622 3 ай бұрын

The Omnium MiniMax is the wrong bike to compare it against. With a 30kg loading capacity the Omnium Mini should be the better comparison for the Monopole. I believe both bikes have a similar wheelbase.

@PathLessPedaledTV 3 ай бұрын

I’m comparing it to what I’ve got and what I’ve tried.

@chungyeungvideo 4 ай бұрын

I think you may get a rear rack with topeak/aeroe

@drill_fiend1097 4 ай бұрын

Do you know if they have Pinion MGU version of dropbar cargo bike? I know they have flar bar eBikes already though... I am considering a different pibion dropbar bike (Priority Gemini) but really jealous of Europe to come with these kinds of cool cargo bikes.

@balintlaki975 4 ай бұрын

For this price you can have a tenways e-cargo, built in lights ,turn signal, mudguards,suspension on front fully adjustable position on the seat and handlebars, bigger loading capacity, free box for it, free rain cover . The design is cool but it's straight robbery, so we put a belt on the steering ,why? so we can charge more for it. I see belts for bikes sometimes cost more than for an actual motorcycle that's crazy.

@zwicker5585 4 ай бұрын

I am mind blown that there are people who dont realize there bike has a head tube. Despite the naming, ITS NOT A TRIANGLE PEOPLE!!!! 😂😂😂

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

Ha. That is true.

@zedtony8110 4 ай бұрын

Looks like my 26" with a large rear rack on the front and a big box attached. Price is night and day.

@aaronedgeart 4 ай бұрын

Love the idea(s), not the price.

@spootyfrog 4 ай бұрын

Can you review the muli Motor st? I think it fits into the smaller side of cargo bikes...

@davetbassbos 4 ай бұрын

I love contraptions, even it I'll probably never own one!

@Julienbauzin 4 ай бұрын

Very interesting bike, would be nice to see a traditional drivetrain/more affordable version tho, I feel like it's hard to justify this over let's say an omnium mini/mini-max or something like a Bombtrack munroe, which offer very similar functionality/size for a fraction of the price.

@jolyonstone6696 4 ай бұрын

No mudguards? There should bé as standard on a bike liké that!

@clincher97 4 ай бұрын

original build has lights and mudguards

@PresleyMartin1 4 ай бұрын

Where's the kickstand? That's going to be super frustrating without a nice center stand like the omnium.

@ilikewasabe 4 ай бұрын

How do you charge the shifters and the drivetrain?

@matthewshultz8762 4 ай бұрын

Pinion claims there's a battery onboard with charge cable. I really question why they wouldn't use an integrated stator or some other type of self-charging mechanism

@drill_fiend1097 4 ай бұрын

@@matthewshultz8762I suspect it's because some reviewers will moan about watt loss if they put dynamo of sorts. Some early electric shifters actually had such charging mechanism but was eventually dropped in production "to save weight"

@Bob-bf6du 4 ай бұрын

If you hit a pothole, could the front belt slip?

@Josukegaming 4 ай бұрын

I like the design and you providing a spotlight to it, but same as other people said, too expensive and lack of rear rack on a cargo bike is just weird

@dansv1 4 ай бұрын

I kind of like the term bio-bike to mean a non-motorized bike. It’s better than acoustic or push bike.

@terrortill 4 ай бұрын

I have the feeling this bike is not really thought through. If you’re looking for something much more commuter-friendly with a foldable/lockable basket and serviceable steering, take a look at German brand „Muli“. They seem to be not well known outside of Germany. In Berlin you see them everywhere.

@glennpettersson9002 4 ай бұрын

What's it like with 30kg on the front?

@--onewheelskyward-- 4 ай бұрын

lol the vhs tape comment. I'm betting a lot of your viewers won't get that reference. :)

@jafe6059 4 ай бұрын

VHS is peak mechanical! ;-)

@kropkakreska3819 4 ай бұрын

The price is ridiculous.

@charlesblithfield6182 4 ай бұрын

I like this trend! I have Billy Bonkers on my Velo Orange Neutrino. I’m thinking of covering it with racks. If anyone has suggestions for solid front and rear racks for a mini velo it’d be much appreciated.

@EveryTongue 3 ай бұрын

Very nice

@gungfuriceboy 4 ай бұрын

Count Me Out..for the Momopole!! out of my Budget!! Do like the Small 'size' for a Cargo bike...but i'm considering the Omnium Mini V3!! purchase price..bettet Attainable'! i just have to see if i can find a Dealership in Toronto Canada area...so i can 'TES RIDE' 1st!!! cheers!

@BenjaminSmith2 4 ай бұрын

It looks like the closest one to you in Canada is in Montreal. There's a shop in Detroit that is closer, but would probably cost more to bring it back. Finding stocking dealers of niche brands is not easy.

@gungfuriceboy 4 ай бұрын

@@BenjaminSmith2 i saw that...but didn't even look like a 'shop'!!??....seemed it was a Business looking for Bike Deliveries!!??...yes...Montreal is at least a 5 hour drive...where as Detroit ..would be 'closer'! cheers!

@Kelekona_808 4 ай бұрын

The mayonnaise question reminded me of an episode of South Park related to Seggs Ed.

@phinhager6509 4 ай бұрын

600% is decent? What do you ride? a 3x11? 3x3x9?

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

Wide range double.

@puregsr 4 ай бұрын

It needs a strong, stable kickstand to qualify as a cargo bike

@andarenbici 4 ай бұрын

Would an Old man winter or tailfin rack work on it?

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

Possibly.

@randomdude5938 4 ай бұрын

@@PathLessPedaledTVis there a god?

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

@@randomdude5938 no. Just an unfeeling universe.

@randomdude5938 4 ай бұрын

@@PathLessPedaledTV damn.

@andarenbici 4 ай бұрын

@@randomdude5938 Can't believe I just sparked a moment of spiritual contemplation.

@j.w.monteith6737 4 ай бұрын

Question: why does it have drop bars?

@PathLessPedaledTV 4 ай бұрын

See video.

@drill_fiend1097 4 ай бұрын

Because flat bars aren't comfortable in the long term. More hand positions, and plus you still feel like riding a road bike instead being on a boring flatbar commuter.

@tomcruz3774 4 ай бұрын

I need to convince my friends to get their weight under 30kg so I can bike them around town.

@andarenbici 4 ай бұрын

Looks great. I can't imagine riding a bike like this in a drop bar setup.

@andarenbici 4 ай бұрын

And I can't imagine choosing a cargo bike for long distances.

@zwicker5585 4 ай бұрын

@@andarenbiciwell it does have a motor 🤷🏻‍♂️

@andarenbici 4 ай бұрын

@@zwicker5585 This one has pinion, not a motor. Motorcycles tend to have comfort bars. I ride drops for speed and cargo for town. This one seems like a neat town bike, at least for me. Others may have different opinions, but I don't like to commute or ride with loads on a drop bar bicycle. Not saying I am correct, but that is my experience. But if it is just an opinion, it does raise the question of why I posted the original comment. Lol.

@drill_fiend1097 4 ай бұрын

It looks perfect for bikepacking and touring where you want to cover long distances at somewhat fast speed but also having to carry a bunch of stuff.

@zwicker5585 4 ай бұрын

@@andarenbici hmm I’m not so in the know on these units. Thought the “Pinion” products have motors and gears but I guess I was wrong

@vitorlimasp 4 ай бұрын

Please, be mercy and try to mention the weights in metric as well. 🙏🏼

@eltamarindo 4 ай бұрын

The front rack is rated for only 30kg? --That's only 66lbs of cargo capacity!

@mycatistypingthis5450 4 ай бұрын

Payload is enough, but pinion (and total price) is a bit too rich for my taste

@freemandrew 4 ай бұрын

I love this compact cargo bike direction but I'm not a fan of proprietary drive trains. It makes maintenance/repairs a real nightmare and limits the useful lifespan of the bike.

@jimp.7286 4 ай бұрын

The price,....ouch.

@paulvanreesch2493 4 ай бұрын

Hey Russ, If someone in the comments hasn't already beat me to this terrible joke, can I get a Betamax sounding drivetrain?

@ivanmahusay4080 4 ай бұрын

Looks sketchy with the steering design using a belt

@negakurai 3 ай бұрын

Pinion has been sharing this bike a lot. With this price I think they will be out of business before their second shipment of international orders are made. This is not sustainable.