Mini F56 Cooper S Initial Impressions, Dyno and ECU Stage 1 Tune - Evolve F56 Tuning Project

[@shouldigetit]

Thanks for the tip about the secret service menu!

[@tonydemetrios1251]

Have exactly the same car...... for the performance on offer, and what you can achieve with it, it has to be the best value front wheel drive hot hatch money can buy...... looking forward to the future Vlogs.👍

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Agreed. Its excellent VFM. We will try and VLog about the car and what we do as much as possible.

[@ConorTimmonsDesigns]

Keep it up! I would click the like button a million times if I could! We need more companies venturing into the f56 platform!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Conor Timmons thank you sir!

[@CalvinsCarDiary]

Very good, informative video mate. Enjoyed that 👌

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Calvin's Car Diary thanks mate 🙌🏼

[@ker-mit]

Thanks for a very good, informative video. Dude is well spoken too.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Glad you liked it!

[@dominic6860]

Great informative video, like how you gave a comparison against the M3 much better than just hearing numbers.

[@Diac13]

Really underrated channel, I love this video. thanks.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Diac thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

[@33vialli]

Glad i found this video looking at getting either f56cooper s or f56 jcw then having some mods

[@EvolveAutomotive]

If you’re wanting to tune for power we recommend going for a JCW, but a Cooper S is also a great choice.

[@33vialli]

Yeah going for a JCW

[@frankbennett7979]

Looking forward to the progress! I love these cars and hope to add another to our family. Wifey currently in a 2015 Cooper S Countryman. Wishing it had the BMW engine... saving that purchase for myself! Wishing I was not stateside so I could visit your shop.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Frank Bennett thanks! They really are lots of fun!

[@frankbennett7979]

Evolve Automotive did the F56 start in 2015?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

2014

[@BLRayBanUK]

that obd port is in a much better place. absolute pita in the r56

[@teggsy2165]

Great video i love watching detuned from factory Engines unleash the power within,and from somebody that knows what they are doing,i test drove a 2016 JCW's convertible a lot of body or roof rattles but fun as hell and sounded great with the top dropped,but for me there is just too many high gloss plastics and too many coated plastics on the rear of the car,it's a very funny mix of high quality and low quality parts for the price it cost at the time.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Terry C thanks ! The convertible version does have a lot of body flex. The standard one does not have same issue with rattles so far but we are only 9000 miles in

[@houston7714]

The 231hp active tourer engine is not the same the pistons are stronger😉. Don't forget that the compression ratio is not the same 11:1 for the b48b20a and 10,2:1 for the b48b20b 😊. The max stock power of the b48b20a is 218hp and 320nm. So for me the safe upgrade of this engine is between 235hp and 240hp.

[@HRM.H]

3:45 i do know that the pops and bangs become much more prenounced when in sport compared to normal. So it deff changes the fuel mapping a bit.

[@FameAndFortune1]

Great video, from memory how did the standard clutch in the car handle the extra power? Any slippage? Many thanks

[@stephensimpson3352]

A FULL ON MOTOR GURU.................THE Mini Guy.................FULL OF WISDOM.........GREAT FUN👍🇬🇧🎬

[@JohnBrookes6128]

WOW What's the improvement of the 0-60mph please

[@Tracks777]

I look forward to more videos.Keep it up!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Thank you!

[@marcwilliams3921]

Would love to see more videos of the Cooper s and new products

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We have one coming soon featuring some Bilstein B16's 😉

[@the___truth8038]

They now have a dual-clutch option. :)

[@Saavvvv]

Not on the JCW sadly.

[@stevenglossop4274]

Thanks for video 👍

[@MotechPerformance]

Nice vid mate.. There such fast/fun cars !

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Thanks Mike! Love it - been driving it daily last 2 weeks lol

[@markwrenn5786]

Love this video. Very helpful. I'm now running your tune and I'm having a blast. Any more updates on this project?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Mark Wrenn more updates coming very soon just waiting for the weather to clear up over here. Glad you are enjoying the tune and the video.

[@declanmcphillie2591]

Did you have a cooper s or a jcw ??

[@markwrenn5786]

@@declanmcphillie2591 Cooper S

[@Suavecito_p]

wow!! great video!! liked and subscribed

[@theoutsider6191]

Hi gents, have a couple of questions as i'm considering a map job on my stock Mini Coop S late 2018 model 3dr: 1. Is this a map that can be done without it needing any other bits doing on the car, like exhaust, intake etc? 2. Is it possible to tune to a particular standard rather than 291bhp and 380 on the torque? I am thinking of tuning up to JCW performance only really to stay on the safer side with respect to engine and drive train and lutch longevity. 3. Is it necessary to then run only on particular fuel, a couple of other teams that do maps have indicated use of only 99 octane which could be a problem as i regularly drive in the Alps where choice of unleaded can be limited. 4. I have read a few stories of BMW cars with the same petrol engine and minis having to have the engine replaced after mapping stage 1 like this as components failed. Is this common, or am i only finding the few examples among the many? cheers, and great work on the professional channel!!

[@peterharris7862]

looking at maybe getting a new cooper s next year but in a 5dr and automatic.

[@carforumwanker]

Very good presentation.

[@tooquic404]

"Just bags of torque." Love it! lol

[@mhperformace1769]

very nice !

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Danke Mirco!

[@dustinjahn9227]

Where can I find a Tcu tune for my 2015 Mini Cooper S? I live in Florida cant find anyone that can do it

[@tonyjames4942]

This tune on a 4 wheel drive clubman cooper s would be ideal! I have a F56 jcw stock and it spins in 1st 2nd and 3rd if its wet or damp which is quite often in the uk, so frustrating!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

You need a Wavetrac LSD. Check our other video on this. Transforms the car.

[@apexproductions7232]

I thought the manual transmission could only handle 310 foot pounds of torque? Is that wrong?

[@Red_Scalpel]

Wow. Just wow. Great work! I have the exact same car .. '15 Cooper S ... I live in the States, how on earth can I do this to my F56. Would LOVE for you guys to do it.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Thanks! Please send us an email on [e-mail]

[@radonvon3120]

What’s it take for the stock gearbox on a manual to handle 450 hp? I’ve got a 2019 jcw I want to build to 450 as a daily

[@BrandonDmv]

Hi I have a 2017 Cooper S f56 3 door sport auto, with JCW tuning kit and DINAN sport tune on it with a K&N intake... i am really interested in your tune! however my concern is that I lease my car and am still under warranty so im attempting to avoid voiding it. is it east to switch back and fourth from stock ECU flash back to the TUNED ECU flash?

[@M-pt9xt]

Great video very informative. I have a 2015 jcw auto Would it make similar power? And what would be your charge for the remap and does that include any tuning for the auto box?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

The auto box cars make a little bit less as we have to cap and the power and torque. Around 270-280 BHP. The remap is £599 inc VAT.

[@audioTea]

Great work. What sort of options would be available for a tune on the F55 cooper S, similar? Cheers

[@EvolveAutomotive]

audio_T yes same options 😊

[@Leafie8468]

Will this make oil-leaking ahead of time? or Do you need to fortify more of your brakes or other parts ? or strethen your engine as well?

[@JohnDoe-pf3ue]

what if its a 22 cooper s with 7 speed auto will stage 1 tune damage transmission?

[@kevinfatemi863]

What's the real difference with N20 engine that you can see in 220i ?

[@sparkyt6497]

Do you still offer the stage 1 remap for the f56

[@hopefwam]

Will this Mapping work for F55? Would this mapping void warranty?

[@ekimandersom4478]

Obviously

[@dha588]

Should I get a stage 1 on my 2010 Mini Cooper S automatic?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Can add a decent power bump! www.evolveautomotive.com/evolve-ecu-remap-performance-upgrade-mini-r56-cooper-s.html

[@carlbruce131]

What does the map do for the 0-60 and 0-100 times. Also what about the mpg. Ive just bought a 2016 clubman s and im thinking of using your map. Will it also void any manufacturer warrenty. Thanks Carl.

[@arwinpoon3115]

Hi what is the difference between f55 mini anf f56. Can you tune both? Thanks

[@EvolveAutomotive]

F55 is the 5 door variant. If you send us your exact model and year to [e-mail] we can quote you. Thanks!

[@Asdasty]

Are the power figures power to the wheels?

[@MrAchilles113]

how has the reliability of the trans & engine been with the tune?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

No issues at all, did many miles in, and the next owner is enjoying it!

[@EvendimataE]

are the r53 engine parts inexpensive because its chrysler?

[@subarui]

Super show. Where can we buy this stage 1 tune?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Wal Ada you can buy from us now. We can tune remotely

[@shavaughnmorris1649]

@@EvolveAutomotivehow Much for remote tuning?

[@MadelnMachines]

What's the rough 0-60mph with the stage 1 map?

[@marcwilliams3921]

Due u known when an Venturi induction kit will be available for the Cooper s?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

It's currently in prototype stage, should be available in a few months.

[@delboy2596]

Imran. To get the 245 BHP from the active tourer. Doesn't it need a different turbo, pistons and inter-cooler as per the JCW?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Hello! Yes some of the components are different but the 2.0 engine in the normal Cooper S is still very detuned as it puts at the same power as the old 1.6 Turbo.

[@jkdsteve]

Torque steer is a bit of an issue even on my stock F56, which exceeds the stated numbers even in California. I can't imagine pushing the tune like that without doing the LSD, Wow!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

LSD really makes this car. Watch our video on the wavetrac installation

[@marcusgtr1865]

What tune you recommend for a 2014 Mini Paceman 4all automatic????

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We can tune that for you. Please email [e-mail]

[@gavingonzalez2508]

whats the max hp one can get with out going internally

[@glendonglasgow9970]

In my country the mini cooper b38 is expensive....are these very reliable cars for a daily or is it more for enthusiast

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We found it to be very reliable. This has the B48 engine.

[@John_cupra290]

Just took delivery of my f56 s and im v interested in your stage 1 map although technically Im not supposed too tune the car!if my car is going in for a service and i remove the map before hand , will they know i had it remapped? That's the only thing stopping me. Cheers j

[@Outrageous-Pursuits]

Have you developed a ECU Stage 1 Tune for a BMW F13 640d? I bought mine in Dec 2013, nothing ever gone wrong and now at 95000km.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yes we have an ECU tune for that car, please email [e-mail], thanks

[@TfRsmokinmasta]

Anything you can do with the F56 1.5t? Seeing plenty of peeps saying 165 to 175 bhp on a stage one flash

[@NWGaryP]

Great video. Looking at S and JCW versions is there any benefit to either over just trim for a daily car as both map to similar power?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

If looking for performance the JCW is a better base, has a different turbo and will tune higher.

[@NWGaryP]

@@EvolveAutomotive Always looking for more performance :) Auto box you map to a bit less than manual? Thanks for the reply.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We do yes to protect the auto box. In that case both would map to the same.

[@SPYCRABFAN]

How does this chip work with warranty and servicing. Does it show up to them that you have modded the car. And if so would removing it make it untraceable?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

It's not a chip it's a remap applied to ECU. You can reflash the ECU to stock before taking it to a dealer for warranty work but if they want to find it they can. There is no tuning method that is completely untraceable.

[@SPYCRABFAN]

Evolve Automotive Thanks for the reply, just another thing I'm getting another f56 towards end of the year. How much do you charge for just a dyno, I hear a lot how bmw lie about there stock bhp and would love to see what mine will be. I may not want an upgrade if it's pushing 220 at stock. Many thanks again.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

A dyno is £78 inc VAT.

[@SPYCRABFAN]

Evolve Automotive Brilliant thanks.

[@tiburciano7]

Hello guys from Evolve. Nice to see your work and dedication to these cars. I'm actually an owner of a Mini F56 Cooper S from Portugal and I was very interested on your job on this car. I've already checked your website and I've noticed that the Stage 1 program is only to be installed in your facilities (as obvious). Still, I would like to know if someone from foreign, me in this case from Portugal, could buy this and install on my car. Thanks and keep your good work!!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We can now tune these car remotely 🙂

[@Digifx69]

Whats the cost? 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman

[@poonambharaj6777]

Evolve Automotive rxf. C.4 .

[@deannewton5458]

I'm thinking of getting one of these beauty's brilliant video by just remapping does it stress the engine.do u do ecu remap or just for urselfs

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We offer the remap as a product/service to customers. This engine can deal with the remap with no issues.

[@paulkelsey2458]

That much power from just a tune? That's insane, is that to the wheel or crank?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

To the crank

[@paulkelsey2458]

@@EvolveAutomotive thanks, that's still super impressive.

[@maggygwire]

How does the auto gearbox hold up on a 2016 clubman cooper s mapped to 250bhp do you think? I’m thinking of having it put back to standard. Cheers

[@EvolveAutomotive]

On our tune it is safe for the auto gearbox as we have managed the torque to be safe. Can’t comment on anyone else’s software.

[@maggygwire]

@@EvolveAutomotive thank you that makes sense. Sadly I don’t have paperwork to show where it was done and figures etc

[@biscuitninja]

Would this work well with an auto transmission?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

biscuitninja yes it would

[@alexmckenzie1063]

wait are you based in luton?! do you map the f56 cooperD? only round the corner from you guys!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yes indeed on both accounts.

[@andres070284]

how can I get my hands into that software and everything to stage 1 my 2015 F55 ?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Email [e-mail] and we can help you :)

[@markvandeweerd2821]

I've just installed a JCW tuning kit (Pro Exhaust and chip) on my 2014 F56 automatic. Can you like bypass the current Chip they added on and get to 280-290~ BHP?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Mark van de Weerd Hello! We can by pass that tune but with the auto box the max we have seen is around 270-280 BHP

[@Cars_and_adventures]

Looking at getting one in July. And it's awesome to see you guys are local to me being at Luton. Will you do the remap or will I have to go the software on my own ?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

JJNews13 we can do it for you 👍

[@Mazdaspeed_lifestyle]

When you dyno the car. Is this wheel horsepower or crank

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Calculated crank here

[@matthewworrell8784]

Is around 211-14bhp a stock figure? I thought a stock Cooper S was 192bhp?

[@teggsy2165]

Everybody says 192 bhp which is infact 192 ps and that converts to 189 bhp which i understand my MCS 2015 is,im no expert but i think the car is specified from factory as 189 bhp 192 ps.

[@Oplix]

It isn't 192. It's 215/245tq from factory. They are underrated.

[@sparko2012]

Iv got a 2018 F55 Cooper S auto and I think the gear box (in mid) is awful to be honest. The car is in 7th gear at 40 miles an hour, so as soon as you need to accelerate the car is left scratching its head whilst it drops a few gears from 7th. Wish I had gone for the manual after watching this!

[@Kiieerrann_xx]

I'm sure we would have fun with numbers on the dyno with my F56 JCW with JCW Pro Exhaust

[@mogulme6190]

We get it

[@srt4turbo1]

Why was Evolve Banned from the Mini Forum????

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Which Mini forum? Unsure as we haven’t been active on many forums for quite a few years.

[@srt4turbo1]

@@EvolveAutomotive I was reading about your tune on there and suddenly you were banned people said, unsure why?? Do you still make the tune for the f56? THANKS

[@EvolveAutomotive]

@@srt4turbo1 yes we do its one of our most popular tunes and is listed on our website. Still not sure which forum you are talking about. There is life outside those you know!

[@srt4turbo1]

@@EvolveAutomotive Just was odd a repuable company like you guys were banned. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before purchasing. The forums are a great place to start. Below is the link. www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/drivetrain-cooper-s/323046-evolve-automotive-mini-f56-ecu-tune-2.html

[@EvolveAutomotive]

No idea why we would be banned, possibly because we stopped paying to advertise. Sadly forums all but died a good 5 years ago. They can still be great resources and I feel that will be lost with the newer social media method of sharing info, forums were very search engine friendly.

[@benjibatch]

What are your plans for the F56 LCI

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We can now tune the LCI. Email [e-mail]

[@simplicity3185]

How do I get that evolve r stage one mapping cable thing.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We can sell you one! Email [e-mail] :)

[@kona328WH]

Hey Imran, the gains are impressive. I'll be coming in for stage one on a manual JCW as soon as you're back open. How long does the process including dyno runs take start to finish?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Around 2 hours. We can do this remotely during shut down. Many customers doing this at the moment ✌

[@TEJPAL789]

Is this tune safe on a stock engine?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Tejpal Singh yes otherwise we wouldn't do it

[@TEJPAL789]

Evolve Automotive cool, just curious due to the massive gains, what kind of power do you think i could get with a catless downpipe and a map

[@scotty2036]

It's the singing dentist 😁 Good review btw 👍🏼

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Can't sing and not a dentist 😂

[@goatcrapp]

360 tq, to the wheels? (or are these corrected numbers?)

[@EvolveAutomotive]

To the crank

[@FeQills]

its a salt pepper or chili?

[@serge933]

Will this be available stateside? I am looking to buy a new F56 soon and would LOVE this tune! Its amazing numbers for just an ECU remap. Great video, love this format!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

serge933 thanks! The tune is now available remotely 😎

[@theboss9000r]

Do you guys do a piggy back tune ?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

No, only ECU tunes.

[@theboss9000r]

@@EvolveAutomotive any chance you do hidden remaps that are hard to trace or detect

[@nicklas6973]

Did it change the engine and exhaust tones?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

No, a remap cannot change the physical sound a car makes.

[@jackass3517]

nice glasses sporty

[@alisonsmith3817]

Just wanting a stage 1 in my cooper s auto How much please

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Hi - You can find out pricing on our website - www.evolveautomotive.com/makes/mini/mini-f56/mini-f56-cooper-s/mini-f56-cooper-s-ecu-tuning/evolve-ecu-remap-performance-upgrade-mini-f56-cooper-s.html

[@_rsavidis]

psi?

[@andygates2641]

Are you in Luton ??

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yes we are, LU3 3HP

[@andygates2641]

@@EvolveAutomotive thanks for your reply 😀 what can you do ie bhp for a cooper with the 1.5 3 cylinder engine?? 2015 and a 2021 bmw 118i with the same engine cheers Andy

[@matthill7815]

What is the stage 1 map/tune you used?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Our own.

[@matthill7815]

@@EvolveAutomotive I could put your tune on a f56 mini without going to a dyno?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

@@matthill7815 Yes - most customers have it done remotely without going on the dyno

[@mogulme6190]

@@EvolveAutomotive I’m in the United States could you guys tune my car from across the pond?

[@christopherrogers8316]

u got all this power from just a tune? no bolt ons?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Just our tune!

[@RawNoLimits]

those gainz 🤯

[@leoandsan]

How can i get this done to my car. mine is bone stock

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Email [e-mail] and we can talk you through the options 👍🏻

[@tteitei]

Can you tell me what colour the paint is?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

tteitei thunder grey

[@Adam-M1]

Any plans to work on the M140i?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Yes - hopefully later this year.

[@sohilbalwanth8103]

Evolve Automotive great video series. I'm from South Africa and have an m140i. Interested to see the power gains you get once you do an ecu tune on the m140i. Looking forward to it

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Sohil Balwanth thanks for the feedback!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Sohil Balwanth thanks for the feedback!

[@samueldavidson6560]

Here's a question: Does the Mini log the key cycles with this tune on? The reason I asked is that Subaru WRXs, for example, log their key cycles, (each time the car turns on and off). When they are tuned, the key cycle resets, and when they are detuned, the key cycle resets. So if one was to go in for a warranty item on their vehicle, they'd reset their car to the stock tune, but would end up still getting refused service due to the fact that the technician can see that the vehicle has 65,000kms, and has been logged in the key-cycles to have ran 3 times. Does Mini do such a thing? Very well put together video! I'm very impressed at the quality of the content, had to give this underrated channel a sub.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Key cycles is not something I’ve heard of being checked. However BMW/Mini can always find out if a car has been tuned if they want to look deep enough. Tuning box or ECU tune, there is too many logs of engine parameters to not show it has been tuned at some point.

[@samueldavidson6560]

@@EvolveAutomotive Thanks for the quick reply! I figured as much, guess you have to make a decision: big gains, or warranfree!

What about F56 non S?

[@simongentry]

would love to know what that flash costs? ah ok - found the cost on your website - excellent value for money !!!

[@MrAchilles113]

Also, any suggestions to improve the awful manual shifter? I dont want to switch to an auto, but this has to be one of the most rubbery/vague shifters I've used. Would a weighted shift knob and short shift kit help?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

CAE

[@louismartin7937]

what colour is this ???

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Its Thunder Grey