Mini RYZEN 5500U PC + M.2 External Graphics Card = AWESOME!

[@drvish]

At the price of the GPU's these days, AMD/NVIDIA might as well add a CPU and RAM socket to them. They are certainly big enough to be complete PC's.

[@Max_Mustermann]

When the PC becomes an accessory to the graphics card...

[@maggiejetson7904]

I was about to say this

[@k.o.t.o.n.]

@@maggiejetson7904 is it good with rtx 3080ti or 3090?

[@lrc3847]

@@k.o.t.o.n. for Ryzen 7 yes. But for Ryzen 5 is better the 3070.

[@Dnimev3]

@@lrc3847 im trying to do An rtx 3070 egpu build

[@scottlarock7924]

nice

[@sumi7065]

Honestly having your gpu displayed on the desk like that looks pretty cool

[@shadowr2d2]

Ditto I was thinking 🤔 the same thing..

[@bagelbytes69420]

ETA, I have used one of these as well and just for future reference, at least in my experience, when running power through the dock with the splitter cable, I would have random reboots and black screens with my older 980ti. As soon as I swapped over to powering it using just the PSU rather than running it through the dock itself, it worked flawlessly. I think theres some issues with the pinout or something with the splitter they include.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

I was thinking the same thing. Powering it through PSU only

[@johnsherby9130]

they probably just didn't expect people to run anything over 100watts through there lol

[@jasonmaxwell9762]

Why do I have a sick obsession with mini computers? Even though I have a big desk with a 49 inch ultrawide? I love your videos. You like to build what I like to build. I am obsessed with APUs and small powerful PCs. Before I built My more practical current Geeek A31 with a Ryzen 3700x and a custom flashed ITX 5600xt. My obsession went even further with fanless APUs. I wanted to build the most powerful fanless APU with the HPlex cases. With and external graphics card riser slot attached to the top kinda like what your using, but I was going to mount it where you could change out GPUs like a game cartridge. Being that the fanless HPlex cases are rather pricey along with the components to run them like the compact HDplex PSU. I decided to just build a all in one, rather than cut up a 200 dollar metal case. My current build is probably about a inch and half thicker laying flat, than your Chopwin build. (Which I love by the way) With a internal GPU. I would love to put that 5000APU in one of those mini HDplex cases. They are so clean.

[@kentoriyama]

I've done this with a 2500u laptop and a 1060 to play VR when my desktop mobo took a shit. Worked nicely

[@pauldeshield]

You inspired me to turn a mini PC into my gaming PC *I have the latest Intel Nuc connected to a 5700XT in a Razor eGPU* I already had the eGPU for Mac video editing so the mini PC was the perfect addition. Thank you for the inspiration 🙌🏽

[@hualni]

OMG!!! That's a $1,500 GPU. It better be able to play God of War at 50x.

[@ETAPRIME]

😂

[@PlayingItWrong]

But can it emulate *gulps* Jaguar games!

[@rexcatston8412]

Snes Super Mario at 360p ...with frame drops

[@ronnienoneyabusiness2844]

@@PlayingItWrong can the emulator even run jag games? Lol

[@Dragonborn-dc4uj]

But can it run 3DO games at 4K?

[@sneakyrabid8828]

Always a pleasure to watch such experiments ETA; if not were by scalpers and GPU availability, setups like this were more populars despite bottleneck.

[@rarminqorset3628]

Can confirm

[@JoshuaG]

ETA PRIME just made his own "Beast Canyon NUC" ❤❤ I would actually buy that 😁

[@LifeByKpop]

I love experiments like this. Looks like everything runs pretty dang good, even on that little APU. Fun video.

[@tech_jims]

i wonder if eta ever comes home from work with a pc in hand and his wife just looks at him and says oh no not another one your not bringing that in this house 🤣

[@bepbep7418]

Your assuming he makes it INTO the house 🤣 that probably also explains why Paul's studio is his garage.

[@segunodunlade4017]

Personally I’d love to see more content like this With more tests with different gpu’s This is very cool

[@scottygdaman]

Saw a somewhat similar set up...the user called it a ... Gaming p.c. Love the channel

[@AgentZeroNine1]

Sick. That (recently accidentally leaked) 80GB per second Thunderbolt 5 should kill all bottleneck issues. Fingers crossed we see late 2022 the latest.

[@iG34RH34D]

Thanks for the review, and taking the time to test this.

[@eskanderx1027]

Fitting a huge GPU into a tiny PC is tight!

[@bossmen6665]

like a bbc into a asian girl

[@_TheElMan]

Wow what a crazy build... Love it.

[@FrankLeeYoung]

That's like putting a rocket engine on your nice new compact sedan! Also, I had no idea the m.2 slot was a viable way to connect an eGPU to, neat! I learned something today!

[@ClayWheeler]

Yes and No. You have to pay attention to the M.2 slot on the motherboard. Usually it is written right near the slot. if it says "M.2 NVMe" or "M.2 PCIe" or "SATA x PCIe" then it means you can plug eGPU into this slot. if it says "M.2 SATA" or "mSATA" or just "SATA" it means you cannot plug anything else other than SSD to that particular M.2 slot.

[@FrankLeeYoung]

​@@ClayWheeler Ah, I see, gotcha! Which is the most common M.2 slot found on boards?

[@ClayWheeler]

@@FrankLeeYoung You have to open the Board by yourself to confirm it. It cannot be investigated Virtually. Must be seen Physically by yourself

[@nayyarrashid4661]

@@ClayWheeler are there any cable to extend the length? Like for easy accessibility without having to open it something like thunderbolt does?

[@ClayWheeler]

@@nayyarrashid4661 No. Only Intel Platform has it. For AMD, do it like this video. The Cable itself is already 50 cm.

[@zeros2818]

this setup is crazy I love it

[@tanushadithiya7136]

Wow I love how your experiment stuff like this. Thank you.

[@Richie016]

M.2 eGPU dock adds the advantage of using PCIe graphics with small board computers.

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

...which is kind of expensive and removes the advantage of that "small" board. At least with big graphic cards.

[@acejon2162]

Indeed, technically feasible but practically doesn't look cohesive at all.

[@scottwilson419]

Wish you would have ran at 1440P to offload as much to the GPU as possible. Awesome video again

[@uvesh8953]

Amazing, You really doing some unexpected works. I Never expected this could be possible, A desktop GPU could be paired with a Mini PC that's really happened.

[@SyedKamran2016]

It's amazing how to upload new videos every day on your channel.

[@alpacamix]

that gpu is gigantic holy.makes my 3070 vision like small card.

[@ajwalker4416]

Thanks for this video. I have an NVIDIA GTX 1050i that's still working very well and it's nice to see I could find a way to mount it to a mini PC to get better gaming performance. My main PC is very long in the tooth but the graphics card is still working great. I've been researching mini PCs for the form factor but the game performance always held me back from a purchase.

[@muhammadazim4563]

Valve should take some notes. Maybe with the steam deck on the go it is powered by low profile apu in the main system. When it is in dock mode perhaps they could inplement something like this.But yeah maybe on the second gen steam deck

[@Petorasaur]

Would be awesome if someone with the equipment was able to make a low profile chassis for this set up and maybe wall mount it and run cable through the wall.

[@Cody-cn6rj]

You may already know this but you may be able to alleviate some of the CPU bottleneck going up to 1440p cause 1440 is more GPU bound.

[@_Drekavac_]

Wouldnt help cause it isnt rly bottlenecked by the CPU but by the m.2 port. Its only a pcie 3.0 4x slot

[@muhammadbagaskara4886]

my favorite tech channel no doubt

[@Charsept]

Back at it again 😆 I love these Frankenstein eGPU builds

[@WildkatPhoto]

Reminds me of some of the shenanigans that used to happen at early PC trade shows when companies would have a computer on the floor that was connected to a microVAX behind the curtain.

[@CodeXCDM]

Omg. A single fan off that GPU is as big as the PC.

[@IRWPD]

Find it funny seeing that big video card sitting next to the small PC.

[@wkwk2o384ur]

You could 3D print a nice cover for the mini pc with a hole to nicely let the pcie cables out.

[@shadowr2d2]

This is an Awesomeness idea 💡.. Since GPU these days are so expensive 😫. But very beautiful 😍 to look at.. To set one up this way.. Is a real killer idea 💡..

[@deechvogt1589]

Way cool ETA. I like the total wackiness of doing something like that just because it can be done! Nice!!

[@RAT_SALAD]

You should do an in depth video on that AMD tuning utility.

[@jasoncuellar8737]

It'd be cool if you could make some benchmarks comparing laptop GPUs vs this weird dock

[@valerafox7795]

well this thing doesn't loses much of a gaming performance, it's even better than thunderbolt meaning that it won't really differ from the desktop gpus performance which is hackingly better than the laptop ones

[@thetj8243]

Hmm... The interesting thing I think what could bring some more performance (if the m.2 slot is PCIe 4.0 x4) is an PCIe 4.0 adapter 😀 Because 4.0 has double the bandwidth of 3.0 that it seems to be using 😁

[@cybershellrev7083]

People just don't understand the benefit of having a setup like this. The modularity, cooling and power management is a dream. If you wanted to trade for an RTX on that setup, you would have no problem with that 750W PSU where as tower setups would have to be closely accounted for.

[@justanotherlikeyou]

If you'd like to test it with less bottleneck try upping the resolution to 4K or 5K using the super resolution option in the Radeon driver. That way much more of the load will fall to the 6900 XT.

[@stopostospec]

m.2 interface might be bigger bottleneck than cpu itself

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

A m.2 6900xt vs the same gpu connected to a desktop PC performance comparison would be nice. That way people could know if it's worth the bottleneck

[@silentndeadly]

Looks so cool! Like something your 2yr old or cat would love to play with it!

[@hyperkid21]

that set-up is nice. it small and compact.

[@imcade88]

love your videos! Love your giveaways! Love everything you do!

[@Miroslav96]

Wow that gpu sometime boosting over 2500 MHz

[@SerjStar]

its kinda crazy how the amd cpu running at 15 watts and stays at 4ghz

[@juliorosa2846]

Loved the video. Outside of the box

[@Minodax86]

That gpu was a chonky boi!

[@eddiedavis346]

You are a mad man!, cool experiment thou.

[@CandyGramForMongo_]

That was absolutely terrible. I love it!

[@AshtonCoolman]

Next time raise the resolution to 1440p or 4k. That'll effectively eliminate the bottleneck.

[@fishclaspers361]

This might just be the future of PC gaming. The mini PC not the graphics card.

[@Sh1ftRealm]

Still better than those expensive laptops

[@ardenallstars]

If you can Do this with Nintendo switch docked. Would be awesome

[@AndrewHelgeCox]

Strip the internals out of the mini pc and fit everything snug up against the GPU back plate with a custom low profile 3d printed shroud.

[@bsthadrudge5752]

i wanted to try this? good to know i can. THANK YOU!

[@zodiacfml]

it is less of a bottleneck at 4k with RTX or 8k. PC industry should make a standard close to this soon since the CPU is getting smaller while video cards getting larger. At current technology, we can have an Apple M1 like CPU power to run a huge video card.

[@davefroman4700]

I saw someone do a comparison between the dock and the a regular desktop with this exact ASUS Box earlier today. On average he found that it was less than a 10% difference.

[@nathanrex8037]

Makes me wonder if there's an egpu compatible with the steam deck to use when docked. Would be fun to see!

[@valerafox7795]

welp should be but there's the hassle to do with the bios and etc which is nobody gonna do 😭..😭

[@terminus_null]

Getting a HUGE UNIT to interface wit a TINY C; we've all been there, right guys? Awww, yeah. AWESOME!

[@porcupinetree3033]

I have the amr 5 ace magician What would I need to do the same? The GPU and this adapter? I would need also an external power supply right?

[@TheNetRiper]

6900XT: Look mom, I got CPU now...

[@TheSilviu8x]

Just imagine how it would be this, with the RX 5500xtm!

[@NewAgeDIY]

This setup reminds me of the Latte panda Alpha project. Lot’s of systems being made with mini computer and massive GPUs. This one gets high marks 🏆

[@TRDTYukiTV]

tbh this would probably be alot cheaper than a full tower PC setup and the gaming seems pretty impressive , even if its bottle necked in some ud still get impressive framerates

[@Viewer19]

That Dock slot is PCIe 3.0 X4 which is more likely the biggest bottleneck

[@TechAmbr]

The advantage to using a 6900XT with such a small APU is that you could run all of those games at 4K and get identical framerates.

[@ignaciourbina368]

such a nice video ETA. I did something similar with the asrock deskmini x300, ryzen 5 4650g and a msi 1060 6 gb. It really does change the complete experience. And i got the same issue with how to make space for that instalation. I think for this range of graphics cards, it suits very well if you already own one of these components

[@arthasfrost]

thats was a legit experiment

[@djayjp]

Video really needs a discussion of bandwidth on the connector.

[@patricklepoutre]

There should be a modular pc style box thing for this

[@sgreum70]

I have an 8th gen i7 Hades Canyon NUC with the 4Gb Vega M GPU that I've been thinking of doing this with. The little beast works like a charm with the emulated games I play but not the more modern ones. It looks like pairing it with a 1650 or the like might just be the thing I'm looking for.

[@707caballo]

I just got the minisforum um690 hy watching your review on it. I would love to see this setup or similar with the um690. Possibly through thunderbolt?

[@gordong11]

nice. Aren't you limited to PCIe Gen 3 x4 with the M.2 slot? IS there limited return on a 6900xt? can you get similar performance on a 6700xt for example?

[@ecmjr]

I love these projects! Great Video!!!

[@chicoriver8606]

That pig tails could be trouble for that system.

[@edwardmol5341]

The interesting thing to me is that neither the CPU nor the GPU are running at 100%. Wouldn't this indicate that the bottleneck is the 4 lane connection? Would cranking the resolution to 4k allow you to push the GPU to 100% then or would the m.2 connection still bottleneck overall performance? Lastly would this give you less loss of performance than thunderbolt 4 docks due to the lack of thunderbolt 4 overhead? So many questions!

[@acejon2162]

I would think thunderbolt gives better performance as it is designed with eGPU as one of the usage scenarios whereas this looks like someone found a loop hole to connect a eGPU via M.2 slot, meaning it is not meant to use in this way even though it somehow functions.

[@edwardmol5341]

I thought that the m.2 port was literally just a 4 lane pcie connection maybe that's not correct. I dunno. Still a pretty cool hack!

[@thepezfeo]

I'm curious what's the fastest GPU that wouldn't be bottle-necked?

[@siontheodorus1501]

Something that has bandwidth less than 2x pcie 3.0

[@jud-asinsmith-stansell2022]

I want to know about a 6700xt or 3060?

[@siontheodorus1501]

@@jud-asinsmith-stansell2022 probably still bottlenecked but not as much as 6900XT

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Probably a 1/2GB GPU

[@Personalinfo404]

750ti

[@KendyBeraldo]

Really awesome, just for the purpose of proving possible !

[@scousiered3124]

This great. Is there a mini and egpu combo that you would recommend for better results?

[@nomercyriding]

Such a cool experiment! Thanks for the video ETA!

[@xavhow]

Great idea, cool video!

[@Lee88-q5q]

extreme but hell yeah why not

[@FS--ew3se]

Been waiting for dis 👍

[@NexGen-3D]

Pretty cool, actually looks okay on the desk too, you could even 3D print a really slim open mesh case to slip it into.

[@darexas1602]

Stream deck should have M2 connector outside so you can plug your GPU when at home.

[@notthekhajiturlooking4836]

honestly.... i dont know what theyre thinking skipping over a dock.

[@batterypwrlow]

Or thunderbolt 3. Would be less messy.

[@darexas1602]

@@batterypwrlow Is thunderbolt supported by AMD systems? I thought it wasn't.

[@acejon2162]

So far, thunderbolt only appears on Intel systems, after all it was designed by intel.

[@batterypwrlow]

@@acejon2162 maybe AMD should put a bit of research on their own thunderbolt research. I mean they made their own version of DLSS. Call it lightning bolt or something. Lol

[@klipster4479]

When are you getting the new optimus prime robot that dave2d featured...??

[@louvain-fatskrrrt4698]

i really appreciate the work you are doing with external docks connected through bizarre but common ports.i would love for you to test different cards and the effect of bottlenecks by different cpu's . i have a laptop with an x2 m.2 connector and i would be very grateful if you could try it with different connector limitations as such .

[@stanleyho1435]

awesome video! did not know this was possible! have you done this with the 4750g? I have a couple of those and after seeing this video it has intrigued me! thanks for all your videos

[@xeonelite6051]

Wasn't that bad I expected a bigger bottleneck. 80-92% GPU usage is actually great also isn't the liva q3 the smallest can you try egpu on that one

[@typingcat1814]

Just a guess: between the m.2 slot and the CPU, I think the m.2 is the worse bottleneck. You're probably using a small fraction of what the 6900xt is capable of, and because of that, the CPU isn't working any harder than it needs to to use the muscle that's available. I suspect you would get the same exact numbers with a much cheaper GPU. And if you had a PCIEx16 slot instead of the m.2, you would probably see a big increase in both CPU and GPU utilization (then the CPU would be truly pegged and would become the main bottleneck). EDIT: Here's my challenge, Mr. ETA Prime: Can you build an affordable, well-balanced version of this for $600 or less?

[@manuelsen3180]

Thanks for sharing !

[@skycorrigan6511]

I really like that OC Formula card. I should get one to match my Z590 OC Formula mb

[@catafest-work]

Good tutorial... anyway, prices are not low for these devices ...

[@gabrielecrea7432]

To try to reduce cpu bottleneck you can run games at 4k resolution ti maximise GPU work and minimize CPU work

[@cybershellrev7083]

Things will always look to run faster at 4K than 1080p but in actuality, it only increases GPU usage and distributes the screen tearing. Theoretically, you could turn textures lower to suppress the transfer rate between the CPU and GPU or you can decrease the mesh quality or distance (also known as LODs) to create less polygons for the CPU to draw but it won't do much since most of the CPU stuff is game mechanics and 3D mesh polygonal movement.

[@gabrielprandini2629]

Best content on KZbin!!! If I have the thunderbolt option, is that better than M.2??

[@mirai3263]

Very nice, thank you.

[@elirantuil5003]

This is insane.