Turning My AMD Ryzen Mini PC Into Gaming PC! M.2 PCI-E to eGPU Upgrade

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How to add a dedicated GPU to your laptop or Mini PC. M.2 PCIE to eGPU. All it needs is a PCIe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x 4 slot and a spare SATA3 M.2 or 2.5" for your boot drive. And the PCI-E x16 to M.2 PCI-E external GPU (m2 eGPU) stand I bought can be found here: s.click.aliexp...
Tested on my ASUS PN-50 Mini PC with AMD Ryzen 5 4500U. Reviewed here: • AWESOME AMD Ryzen 5 Mi...
The Dell DA-2 Power supply for GPUs up to 220W cutt.ly/Qgk3ZWP otherwise you need a dedicated 400-600W PSU etc to meet your GPU needs.
R43SG with the GTX 1080 Ti PCIe x16 vs PCIe x4 eGPU: • M.2 PCIe x4 to Externa...
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@goodnota
@goodnota 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Chris, nice to see you back on track. Please know that we, your subscribers, will be watching & liking your smartphone reviews even if they come later than those released by other bribed reviewers! Please keep up the excellent job of thorough analysis!
@ibrahimadeosun6146
@ibrahimadeosun6146 3 жыл бұрын
Bribed reviewers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😛😛😛😛
@youp1tralala
@youp1tralala 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these in depth experiments. Would be amusing to plug a gigantic 3080 or 3090 with a 400W+ PSU just because why not.
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
It would and I would have done it if I had one! The 4500U would have limited it of course but still be fun to do!
@WyvernEagle
@WyvernEagle 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets yly
@tmi1234567
@tmi1234567 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets if you are running at 4k I actually don't think that the CPU would bottleneck it much. If it was, you can actually increase the power limits and allow for more performance. I think the PCIe 4x link would be the major bottleneck. I would love to see an AMD version of the newer Intel nuc where you could install a discrete gpu with a mobile chip.
@jamesyuan1280
@jamesyuan1280 3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford a 3090 you would have it sits outside of the case. You would have a shrine for it and LED lights around it.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow 3 жыл бұрын
6800 XT would be better over the 3080 and 3090
@roguelosifer5349
@roguelosifer5349 3 жыл бұрын
Finally set this up today for my Dell AIO and experienced the issue you discussed towards the end (re boot drive). Fun experiment finally came to an end. Thanks for the upload.
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@123Suryasis
@123Suryasis 3 жыл бұрын
@Chris, thank you so much for this review and extra thanks for considering my request. This is a great solution for not only gaming but for content creation as well. Since current Vega iGPU doesn't work with editing software like Premiere Pro or The Vinci Resolve, this little tweak can give you immense flexibility with such a small pc. If we have the 4700u or 4800u model, and with even a moderately powerful GPU like GTX 1650 Super, user can have a small and cheap editing rig.
@myname-ns1rp
@myname-ns1rp 8 ай бұрын
ALTERNATIVELY if you dont have an SSD slot for an alternative hard drive, you can use an external m2 USB-C adapter hub. This is especially convenient if you only have one m2 slot that was taken by your old SSD. you can just pop the SSD out, free up the slot for your external GPU and put the SSD (m2) into the external enclosure that plugs into the USB-C. USB-C data transfer rates are fast so it won't affect read and write speeds much.
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 5 ай бұрын
What do you do if the new GPU doesn’t show up on the device manager?
@myname-ns1rp
@myname-ns1rp 5 ай бұрын
​@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 usually it will show up, it could be: •check connections •your pc's m2 slot may not be compatible with this kind of set up •make sure you have the most recent DRIVER FOR YOUR GPU installed. •your adapter may have an issue (the platform you slotted the graphics card on) and you may want to buy a different one. •you will want to disable the integrated graphics •you will want to use an external monitor via hdmi from the back of the EXTERNAL GPU to your monitor. •make sure you are using a BIOS version that is compatible with your GPU. •Google and youtube are your friends. look for other solutions and solve it yourself. These are just from the hip thoughts as I was trying to think of reasons you may have issues.
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 5 ай бұрын
@@myname-ns1rp Thanks
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 3 жыл бұрын
Quality mad PC building, with a GPU bigger than the rest of the computer.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing you can have such a compact minimalist setup. Fun experiment 👍
@yashpalsingh4427
@yashpalsingh4427 3 жыл бұрын
When your graphic card is bigger than your pc.
@3npitsu992
@3npitsu992 3 жыл бұрын
And it's also a single fan gpu
@bluemagoo
@bluemagoo 3 жыл бұрын
It says a lot when you find a way to make your MINI GPU bigger than your pc....You've earned my sub 👍🏾 lol
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 3 жыл бұрын
Huh. Never would have thought of doing this, but it makes perfect sense given the slot-availability. Thanks for the info, mate!
@rcpoisond
@rcpoisond 3 жыл бұрын
You won't get shocked by 12V, you'll be fine :D The most dangerous mishap would be shorting those leads and blowing the PSU up in case it isn't properly protected :)
@IgnoreMyChan
@IgnoreMyChan 3 жыл бұрын
👆 This! ;-)
@Xfade81
@Xfade81 3 жыл бұрын
And possibly frying the card.
@frostilver
@frostilver 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about heat, not about electric shock. 🌚
@gabest4
@gabest4 3 жыл бұрын
He would if he licked it.
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 3 жыл бұрын
12V is no issue!! In general < 48 V will NOT kill you and is know as "low voltage" BUT the question is how much ampere? e.g: To get 300 Watts from a (single) 12 Volt line you will have 300 / 12 = 25 A. = No fun!
@yorkshireplumbing
@yorkshireplumbing 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's a way to limit the number of PCIe lanes a NVMe drive uses, so that may also help the GPU to work in that scenario, but the setting would need to be available in the BIOS. That 1060 card isn't bad, I used to have the same one, if you look at the exhaust you should see a piece of tape covering the fins, you can open it up and remove that to get extra cooling. It should undervolt quite well too.
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
I should have just tried a SATA3 2280 M.2 and then it might have worked. I'll have to try again on my XMG Core 15 Ryzen 7 4800H laptop! It's not the best of the 1060s' as the VRM's cook themselves as have no contact with the heatsink, I had to mod it. Undervolts okay and overclocks a little to help making up for the PCIE 16x Vs 4x loss which isn't much.
@yorkshireplumbing
@yorkshireplumbing 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets Yes, I believe that was an issue with them when they first released and EVGA offered a free kit to fit your own thermal pads on to make contact... luckily mine wasn't one. Developed a whine issue eventually so got rid of it.
@broderp
@broderp 11 ай бұрын
I have no intention of trying this, but found this very interesting if not a bit cryptic due to all the variations possible.
@Airbag888
@Airbag888 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated KZbinr. Just missing some wall power usage numbers :) I hope for a PN50 with 2-3 nvmes one day :)
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
PN50 Ryzen 5 4500U wall power usage is in the review but it's max 49W at the wall under full load and 6-8 idle
@Airbag888
@Airbag888 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets reply faster 😂 Joking. Actually I saw full pn50 review. I was wondering about the power draw when using the external card. Seriously on the fence here.. I need a new home server that uses little power. The a300 from asrock won't support the new ryzen and the pn50 is quite expensive..
@GrantMcWilliams
@GrantMcWilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Is the mini-PC able to power up fine with the m.2 card in but the GPU box not powered on? I'm thinking of using the internal graphics for most things and only power up the GPU when doing video editing with Davinci Resolve. Obviously I'd have to figure out a monitor switch to go between the two I think.
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
Long Short story, no. Whenever you plug eGPU docking, you need to power both MiniPC and eGPU simultaneously. Buy if you intend to save Electricity Bills, then the overall setup of MiniPC and eGPU Actually consumes about 50% Less wattage than a full Build Desktop PC.
@Racnmasn
@Racnmasn 3 жыл бұрын
Wow a breath of fresh air, a real KZbin video it’s been awhile! Thank you! Now I don’t feel like I wasted part of my life. 👍
@HungLeWrites
@HungLeWrites 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, could you investigate something regarding eGPUs and Intel Ice Lake? Since eGPUs experience worse performance compared to PCI-E, a couple new technologies attempt to mitigate this penalty. Windows 10 has an experimental memory scheduler whereby the GPU manages the VRAM (instead of system managed). This may improve latency, a major reason for the TB3 graphics penalty. Additionally, Ice Lake integrates the TB3 controller on-die, which may also further reduce latency. Could you benchmark both a Whiskey Lake laptop and Ice Lake laptop with Thunderbolt 3? Comparison to a desktop can provide a reference, but the more important data would be (1) Whiskey Lake / no mem scheduler (2) Whiskey lake / yes mem scheduler (3) Ice Lake / no mem scheduler (4) Ice Lake / yes mem scheduler By understanding these differences, we can infer how well these approaches reduce the eGPU penalty. I have seen both the memory scheduler and Ice Lake benchmarked against the standard, but not against each other or in conjunction. While the individual tests show promise, I'm interested in how they play together, and how much further I am from buying a high-powered ultraportable and relying on a eGPU when I want to do more serious gaming/work.
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good and I would love to see the results and what about the new Tiger Lake TB4 support for later TB4 eGPUs. But I have no plans to buy any Ice Lake laptops or a Whiskey Lake one, such tests would be super expensive and only result in a huge loss for me. Sorry but that's how it is.
@huzcer
@huzcer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets is there any viable thunderbolt budget egpu option (i.e. like your setup here) that would work with a laptop without having a cable hanging out of its guts? - would the TB4 in Tiger lake do it and can you get a thunberbolt version of the m.2 gpu card holder (R43SG)?
3 жыл бұрын
you could try asking LTT for this test
@elemkay5104
@elemkay5104 3 жыл бұрын
@@huzcer There aren't TB3 versions of this, you have to get a proper full enclosure for the luxury of TB3. Tired scouting them out myself. Your best bet is to scan ebay and find one up for auction.
@WarisAmirMohammad
@WarisAmirMohammad 3 жыл бұрын
Jarrod's Tech has recently put up a video regarding eGPU performance on Ice Lake vs Comet Lake, maybe you can try ask him
@mikescomputercorner1204
@mikescomputercorner1204 2 жыл бұрын
THE MINIS FORUM have a set up with its own frame that takes the gpu and the mini pc in 1 neat and tidy package.
@ChuckNORRlS
@ChuckNORRlS 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for doing this eGPU
@ethanjones3588
@ethanjones3588 8 ай бұрын
def best e gpu video ive seen and ive been on this for a few montsh now because im on a tight video editing pc budget
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 3 жыл бұрын
Would be far better to trim the bottom cover, and far easier as well as neater, the feet risers will give the cable clearance to tuck under and in.
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
While your comment is absolutely CORRECT, there is actually another MiniPC of the same Processor, but is assembled by different company and it has built-in Holes for the cable. Like HYSTOU MiniPC
@ellooku
@ellooku 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I got this ADT Link before COVID 19 pandemic. Recently purchased Odroid H2+ to test it out and still on the way. Hope it gets home and I pray nothing happens to it because our Country Nigeria is now is serious revitalisation. Lolz. I dont want to call it a mess. Its for the better of our country. The AMD Ryzen Mini PC looks tempting like a future budget.
@chitransh1997
@chitransh1997 3 жыл бұрын
This dock is different from usual ones. Be sure to find out which cards it actually supports.
@Cellbuster
@Cellbuster 3 жыл бұрын
Just a note: the PCIe scaling with a 3080 is going to be much rougher at PCIe 3.0 x4. Tech power up has an analysis and the equivalent methodology was about 75% of the higher bandwidth configurarions Edit: unless this is 4.0 x4, not familiar with this board
@kimnice
@kimnice 3 жыл бұрын
You were looking at PCIe 1.1 x8 numbers? That's equivalent of PCIe 3.0 x2. With PCIe 1.1 x16 RTX3080 retained 87-90% of it's full performance. It's kind of mind boggling to think that RTX 3080 on PCIe 1.1 x8 bus is still slightly faster than RTX 2080 ti on PCIe 3.0 x16 bus. After all PCIe 1.1 x8 offers slightly less bandwidth than AGP 3.5 bus from the year 2003! Weirdly enough internet doesn't tell if that's PCIe 4.0 or 3.0. Not even Asus specification list or manual for this product tells that.
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly care more about space than I do having the most best gaming PC ever (my last PC was so bad with gaming, so as long as the game looks good and runs at least 60 fps, that's all that matters to me), and my current PC just takes up a lot of space on my desk, so a solution like this seems pretty interesting to me.
@gohachi5313
@gohachi5313 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool little piece of kit. I would totally build something like this for low power gaming. Too many back catalog games that don't need a +600w gaming machine to run at 100fps.
@blurigard447
@blurigard447 3 жыл бұрын
Good heads-up on the DA-2 series PSU. Really cheap way of getting lots of power to something neatly!
@evilqtip7098
@evilqtip7098 3 жыл бұрын
That the way PC should be Mini powerful and you can add a killer card to it fi you want externally and always upgrade !!!!
@kmathuna3093
@kmathuna3093 3 жыл бұрын
6-8% loss is fantastic, I thought it would be much worse i sold my deskmini as when you are used to discrete gpu its hard to go back to just integrated. great video Chris
@lakdanan70
@lakdanan70 3 жыл бұрын
i have one too, nice solution for gaming on a mini pc
@SionFrench
@SionFrench 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great to see you making more content, and good to see you have a sense of humour. Nice, keep it up!
@flashbond
@flashbond 3 жыл бұрын
Watch 2x speed. Totally fine
@samlebon9884
@samlebon9884 3 жыл бұрын
It's time to 'cablelize' PCIe. An optical PCIe standard will make a revolution in the PC world. Imagine stackable small 'bricks' connected together by optical cables.
@Ziggurat1
@Ziggurat1 3 жыл бұрын
You said PCIe times 3, that's wrong. It's PCIe gen 3 times 4 i believe in an m.2 formfactor
@gregcy89
@gregcy89 3 жыл бұрын
Now all the mobos with a dual m2 slot make a huge sense
@patricklepoutre
@patricklepoutre 3 жыл бұрын
Quite fun but strange to see a bigger gpu than the main unit.
@elsasslotharingen7507
@elsasslotharingen7507 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, that's where things are headed, especially as 4K is even more GPU-dependant than 1440p.
@primalflowdao
@primalflowdao Жыл бұрын
The mini pc's are perfect for a simple minimalistic cloud gaming setup, use mine to play Geforce Now Ultimate, mostly Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings. Would be fun if they started to understand that the fast growing market of cloud gaming could be a great way to advertise these pc's, maybe make one with some built in RGB :D
@wric01
@wric01 3 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt 3 is slower. But neater
@TheBrotherGrimm
@TheBrotherGrimm 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, this could be done with the m.2 slot on my laptop as well? It is a V4 PCIe m.2 slot. What kind of throttling do you find with only 4 lanes on the m.2 drive?
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine using PCIe Gen 3 X4 Lanes. That is equal to PCIe Gen 2 X8 Lanes, or equal to PCIe Gen 1 X16 Lanes. That's what you get. Overall, still faster than Thunderbolt 3 eGPU because Thunderbolt 3 only using 22 Gbps Max. Meanwhile this video is 32 Gbps.
@alanharvey9825
@alanharvey9825 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have info on which low wattage GPU selection would work with the SER 4800U? I've maxed the overclocking as far as it will go, just needs more muscle from GPU but although the install and setup are easy there's not a lot of info on compatible GPU with the AMD Ryzen 7 4800U. I'm looking to stay below the 200 watt threshold as to not have an insane power bill. Thank you in advance
@RectanerTreadway
@RectanerTreadway 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone found a eGPU stand like this but with some kind of chassis that still allows passage of the m.2 cable? The exposed power connectors are a little too hazardous for my space ... Thanks!
@DeanRendar
@DeanRendar 3 жыл бұрын
a soc mini pc and the mini gpu card format on an egpu custom case meant to hide its pc contents and look like contemporary cable managed room decor.
@GrkNitro
@GrkNitro 3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea! What would be the best graphics card for the above cpu, to avoid bottleneck?
@paulinfrancis
@paulinfrancis 3 жыл бұрын
Which RAM are you using? I have the PN50 4800u, and I’m having nothing but trouble with 2x32GB Kingston HyperX, to the extent that I’m running it with one stick of memory to avoid crashes multiple times a day.
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
In most MiniPC or Laptops, the RAM is always fixed Frequency and Latency which means you can only use that same kind of frequency. And also fixed amount of Maximum RAM capacity. So when the Manufacturer say it supports Sodimm LPDDR4 2666Mhz, that means any other frequency is not guaranteed to work. And sometimes also need a bit slower frequency of running Dual Channel RAM to justify the Voltage distribution. The Reason your 2x32 GB crashing a lot is probably not enough Voltage to supply both RAM sticks. It might be doable if you try to undervolt and underClock the CPU just a little bit.
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
Ryzen Master app is very useful you know :)
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 3 жыл бұрын
Well done video. Great performance for a very small form factor system.
@charlieson3394
@charlieson3394 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Chris, when you turn off PC, did the Dell DA-2 go into stand by Yellow? and turning on PC wakes it up to Green? Same as when you use ATX PSU, I am wondering if the board is controlling the soft start of PSU and isolating common ground from PC PCle and PSU to ADT-LINK board, if common ground is well not isolated then there will be noise heard from audio and shorten all electronics life, PC and GPU
@vincentdoubt
@vincentdoubt 3 жыл бұрын
just hope you can convince the Asus , Acer built 1 more NVME M.2 behind the laptop for future upgrade . btw , their might worry affect their notebook sales .
@alastairgreen_Nexus
@alastairgreen_Nexus 3 жыл бұрын
YES! More NVMe slots the better since it allows to accommodate 90wh or higher battery and easier eGPU or more NVMe storage
@MeloettaDash
@MeloettaDash 3 жыл бұрын
I'm subbing because of his perfect English.
@meateaw
@meateaw 3 жыл бұрын
The real question; is could you have used the m2 slot that the wifi card is in; and forgone wifi. (I know the board for the egpu is the longer m2 standard; but its only for the screw...)
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
And the said WiFi adapter card is WiFi 6? Then it might be only applicable to NGFF based eGPU like EXP GDC eGPU NGFF.
@jaycahow4667
@jaycahow4667 3 жыл бұрын
How much slower are your graphics cards when used in a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU on an Intel NUC? Is it comparable to this M.2 setup as I use a NUC and Thunderbolt 3 eGPU which is really easy to disconnect if I just want to take my NUC somewhere?
@achannelhasnoname5182
@achannelhasnoname5182 3 жыл бұрын
5:42 yeah I'm sure you'll feel a shock when you touch a 12 volt pin... Crazy that a tech youtuber never heard of ohm's law
@chuckp6667
@chuckp6667 19 күн бұрын
Curious. Has any company introduced hardware that connects to multiple m.2 ports? 2 ports I guess for example for 8 lane. Not sure if the chipset would be able to make sense of the 2 ports connecting the same device or if it will just see it as 8 lanes. External graphics aren't necessarily my end goal with my thought process. I'm thinking of HPC and heavy analytical work. I've also wondered if any of the multi GPU mining rigs could be repurposed for this idea. I'm sure I probably am unaware of other ways of adding GPUs for calculation so any suggestions or pointers would be appreciated. Cool video, thanks. I think most chipsets only connect with 4 lanes, so maybe it wouldn't matter anyway unless I'm misunderstanding what I've seen.
@psI6
@psI6 3 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify... You don't need to output the video source through the GPU in order for this to work correct? So if i were to take my older Acer Nitro laptop (or any older laptop with a decent CPU) and run this set-up it should be playable through the laptops screen?
@oddsmith5872
@oddsmith5872 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't this standard plug and play already
@Maxtraxv3
@Maxtraxv3 Жыл бұрын
wrong it was becuase NIVDIA wont let you install driver for older cards when it can see a newer card even if it is disabled.
@trapperainsworth2435
@trapperainsworth2435 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna try one of these with my 390X by Christmas time. Need to source an SFX Full Modular power supply with enough watts & amps for a fully overclocked AMD R9 390X 8GB clocking to near 1250Mhz core & 1800Mhz memory which is 80 Giga Pixel per second & nearly 500 gigabytes per second memory bandwidth. Requires a lot of juice.
@yazanbaddawi9683
@yazanbaddawi9683 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris 👌
@at10ti0n
@at10ti0n 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and very useful and detailed!
@FckYTAdHandels
@FckYTAdHandels 3 жыл бұрын
If you had a pcie 4.0 x4, would it make og more ideal?:) bandwith wise
@grillmeisterflash
@grillmeisterflash 11 ай бұрын
nice build but the used M2-NVME PCIE adapter is way to expensive there are cheaper ones that cost 1-third of the price, also the used DELL-PSU only handles 200watts thats not enough for any decent GPU like 1660ti / 2060s
@kian8382
@kian8382 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they could get rid of the 2.5 drive mount and use that space for an Nvidia GPU module. I'm not against having storages, but they are the easiest to expand and the weakest point in these tiny machines are the graphics performance.
@Stoat_Lord
@Stoat_Lord 3 жыл бұрын
It would be so nice if these tiny SOC's had PCIe X16. Being able to hook up over PCIe X4 is nice but we're bottlenecked because of it.
@utoracat18
@utoracat18 3 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! Perhaps investigate thin clients with actual hidden pcie slots . Ie ryzen Lenovo thinkcentre mini or veritons.
@d_fens
@d_fens 3 жыл бұрын
Lenovo is notorious for implementing whitelists for m.2 and msata ports on their mobos. My Thinkcentre 93p Tiny has such whitelist and I was not able to find patched bios to go around it.
@ttshushkevichius
@ttshushkevichius 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the great presentation and clear explanation. Just have a question. Your mini PC has one m.2 slot and one SATA slot. But what about two m.2 slots which my NUC has? Both are PCI-e 3.0 x4. One for OS boot and another could be used for eGPU. Actually I don't see any reason not to work but would be great to be sure. Have you tried?
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
That will work two M.2 PCIE 3.0 x4 drives use one for the boot and one for the GPU. It's only an issue if it's a laptop with 2x PCIE 3.0 and say a dedicated GPU like the RTX 2060 that's where I ran into issues.
@ttshushkevichius
@ttshushkevichius 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techtablets i'll give it a try, thanks!
@pooky56
@pooky56 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool, just ordered mine.
@samm928
@samm928 11 ай бұрын
Hello from Florida mate .. I'm plying around with my minisforum um790 pro and I need both M.2 drives but I could use the PCIe4 on the wifi card, and then plug an USB dongle for WiFi .. but I think the edge plug connector might be different between SSD and WFI female receptacles
@vergelbansill9811
@vergelbansill9811 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering, i know that a mining card can be used for an external gpu to be used as Video rendering, why do u need a pcie to nvme adapter, usb -c to hdmi output of your gpu does not work?
@guilhermelourenco977
@guilhermelourenco977 Жыл бұрын
I have a mini pc with 2 pcie slots, 1 m2 sata and 1 nvme 2280. I connected my rtx 2060 super on bolth slots, but the performance is always the same, it shows x1 on cpuz
@justinpatterson5291
@justinpatterson5291 3 жыл бұрын
How about pairing one of thos epgu bays with a hd plex or pico box psu? Could use a 1650 or 1660 to make a small external gpu addon.
@MandoMTL
@MandoMTL 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone figured out the max throughput of PCIE x4? Surely you hit massive diminishing returns with high end cards? A flat 8% value for losses doesn't make sense.
@Lumimind
@Lumimind 3 жыл бұрын
Du you need power supply unit even on very little GPU that are powered by the PCI Express (like GT 1030 ?)
@elsasslotharingen7507
@elsasslotharingen7507 3 жыл бұрын
The Mini PC's power supply isn't designed to power an extra dedicated GPU.
@MKR3238
@MKR3238 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, usually it would be powerd by the pcie slot but since there is no real power coming through the nvme cable you still need a PSU to power the pcie slot
@locateli615
@locateli615 2 жыл бұрын
Is there way to enclose gpu, wouldnt house bugs be a small risk thou, they cud go in the gpu
@pamus6242
@pamus6242 3 жыл бұрын
This puts those thunderbolts in those NUC's to shame.
@jensbergmann1940
@jensbergmann1940 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, maybe you can help me? I have the Minisforum HX90 Mini PC and I want to use the Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti FE with the ADT-Link PCIe Board connecting to the NVMe PCIe slot. The power supply is the Dell DA2. I placed the ADT-Links connector instead of the NVMe SSD. Before I installed a 2,5" SSD. Unfortunately the RTX 3080 isn't recognized of the system and isn't shown in the device manager. Do you have a device solving this problem? Kind Regards Jens
@robbinmcoley6827
@robbinmcoley6827 3 жыл бұрын
When you cant change the resource settings for no conflicts...NVISEN Y-GX01 < Try a egpu on one of these TT.....Crisp vid.
@kc_krypto
@kc_krypto 7 ай бұрын
I assume this DIY-idea also works on ASUS PN-52 which has 2x m.2 slots!
@justinpatterson5291
@justinpatterson5291 3 жыл бұрын
Another idea. Pair the gigabyte 1650 d6 lp with it and a bunch of cameras and monitors. You've got a surveillance hub right there.
@Wheelmahn
@Wheelmahn 2 жыл бұрын
It can't seem to work with my Dell Optiplex Micro PC any ideas ? It's just plug and play right ?
@pabloferreirosanchez
@pabloferreirosanchez 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, the mini pc you are using for this video does not have a usb type c connector with the lightning signal next to it, is not that type of usb supposed to be able to output image? I ask if it has that capacity can be connected to the egpu adapter out there, thank you very much, greetings
@acalkan
@acalkan 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, really like your videos and have been watching you regularly for years. I just came off watching your review of the mini PC you have in this video and this one piqued my interest but I think there are things that you say in this video that you may want to re-think because they might be really misguiding. Not that anyone would lose a limb or anything but they just don't sound right. Firstly, the claim that you make around losing 6-8% performance. I know you're not doing very scientific tests here but you don't really need to be a scientist to know that loss will not scale across the GPU range and will increase dramatically with higher-end GPUs (I couldn't stop cringing when you mentioned the 3080 and practically fell off my chair when you said 3090). The reason is simple. That PCIe Gen3 x4 slot is not going to have enough bandwidth that those cards demand. They definitely require minimum 8 lanes to run at full tilt and the 4 lanes there is going to be a massive bottleneck. Secondly, power. It's obvious that the board/adapter that you're showing there is clearly not going to be able to support the number of connectors of those higher-end GPUs (it won't even be enough for a basic 2080 let alone a 3090). You do mention that you will require more connectors so you clearly know but how would that work with the board that you're showing? I don't think it would. Lastly, I would love to see how you could use both the integrated GPU's (iGPU) connectors and the dedicated card (dGPU) at the same time because that never works on a desktop. On laptops when the system has switchable graphics there is a handoff of those ports between the iGPU and dGPU when the switching happens but you can't really use both at the same time. For desktops the outputs are separate for iGPU and dGPU and there is no handoff so you can't use both at the same time. I would loooove to be wrong. Can you do a quick video to prove your claim by simply plugging into two monitors at the same time, one onto the output on the miniPC and the other on the dGPU? I highly doubt that works but would love to see. Thanks for your efforts. Not here to try to disprove your claims or discredit your work. Just trying to clear up a few things since you're the one with the kit. Keep it up mate and stay safe in Spain!
@fabianernestopacheco
@fabianernestopacheco 8 ай бұрын
Amazing review!! Could you test a 1660 Super paired with a Ryzen 5 5500u Laptop?
@yountune9799
@yountune9799 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Thanks!
@Techtablets
@Techtablets 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@justinpatterson5291
@justinpatterson5291 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll try and get a couple 1650 D6's for filling slots. Got one ryzen rig just running off the vega 8 cores. And want to give my nephew something he can play/code on.
@nextlevelsimgaming
@nextlevelsimgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video using the Beelink GTR9?, 5900RX would love to see the performance on that
@oldschoozgamer
@oldschoozgamer Жыл бұрын
put some risers on the case for the lid
@HuntaKiller91
@HuntaKiller91 3 жыл бұрын
I have that dell powerpack and the ngff to nvme from my previous failed attempt,do u think rx470 will work with this?1060 is still quitr expensive in my country but the 470 is just $50 in our etailers
@homegeographic5351
@homegeographic5351 3 жыл бұрын
the slot is not called NVME. is pcie express x4 ngff m.2
@scarwn
@scarwn 2 ай бұрын
Hi great. But you could have tried to boot from usb3 with external ssd to test if the egpu was better running on the r4800, Thanks
@JoshuaTheYouTubeGuy2000
@JoshuaTheYouTubeGuy2000 5 ай бұрын
Does the RTX 3060 TI GPU work on this adapter?
@tanerorkun5795
@tanerorkun5795 Жыл бұрын
I have a problem with a similar setup. In my setup, I'm using a 6600xt with a 4k monitor. In mostly newer games, after Vram is full, the power draw of the GPU reduces a lot(like 130 to 80) and FPS drops as the same percentage at best, while all of the other metrics are normal. As I can't monitor real-time pcie bandwidth usage, I can't be sure. Does anyone has experienced this kind of problem?
@jasperzanjani
@jasperzanjani 3 жыл бұрын
the PN62 has a Thunderbolt port, have you tried a different eGPU enclosure that connects via Thunderbolt?
@DW-xt6nt
@DW-xt6nt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks interesting, would like to see same thing for Intel NUC 11, via either NVME or TB3 connection, R43SG-TB3 version perhaps. i7 Slim version 1185G7 ideally. Does the TB4 on the NUC 11 help relative to TB3 on NUC 10?
@CanalDojogames
@CanalDojogames 2 жыл бұрын
so it works on an mini pc with 2280 m.2 without being nvme? I bought an beelink u59, i am searching if it is capable to put an egpu for gaming... Thank you
@surendramaharjan6047
@surendramaharjan6047 2 жыл бұрын
I have a dell laptop with usb c thunderbolt.can i use a thunderbolt ssd enclosure and use this egpu so i can plug it in via the thunderbolt and not open my laptop.
@adammeehan828
@adammeehan828 3 жыл бұрын
I have to x400 minis I have 2 m.2 slots but are not nvme I got a m.2 m key to pciex4 and a pciex4 to pciex16 will this work ok? Can I use the adt even tho my ports are not nvme? Please help I have a GTX 1080.
@shiki6474
@shiki6474 3 жыл бұрын
i tried connecting it to my wifi card slot and the performance of my gpu is limited. where can I buy that m.2 connector ?
@curt8806
@curt8806 3 жыл бұрын
if you plug in your monitor on the mobo hdmi out, can you still render with the external gpu?
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
If you have HDMI cable, why bother plugging it to the MiniPC HDMI output rather than the main GPU HDMI output? The Performance works far better if you set it exactly like this video.
@jahidsinfotech7696
@jahidsinfotech7696 3 жыл бұрын
How can i add eGPU on AMD Ryzen 4000 series laptop which doesn't have any dedicated GPU or external NVMe slot.....??. It will be helpful if you add an eGPU by Type C port (or any) on amd laptop which doesn't support thunderbolt but support DP/PD and other things.
@post-leftluddite
@post-leftluddite 3 жыл бұрын
Why are there several reviewers that are all Australian who focus on mini PCs... Are mini PCs popular in Australia?
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