Miniature Lead Screws and Shop Gremlins

[@leswheeler2023]

I am not a machinist, but give me a block of wood and I'm a happy chappie. I have watched a few of your series now, and look forward to your next. To say you have me captivated would be an understatement. I have never seen you give a walk around your lathe or mill, including upgrades you have done. and would really like to know the branding. I'm in NZ and I am quite confident that what ever you are using is not available here, only an equivalent. You have probably answered this before, but I am sure you will understand that they are lost out there in noddy land. Many thanks for your posts, between you, Blondie hacks and this old Tony, keep me happy at my breakfast table. Cheers from New Zealand

[@joepie221]

I've done a walkaround video on my lathe, but not the mill.

[@howardosborne8647]

That phenolic steady is a very handy attachment.

[@joepie221]

Extremely.

[@ngauge22]

You make fine equipment and show a lot of time tested setups as well as sharing your expertise but I think your attention to these small (tiny) projects is the best show of craftmanship I've seen. I have watched just about every one of you videos and love these small equipment builds. Thank you for your time and effort to share this with us. Excellent video series.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for your support.

[@CreaseysWorkshop]

Fitting is really one of the most difficult parts. So often overlooked in this kind of video. Once again a masterclass.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for stopping by John.

[@RR-cy5pr]

Thank you for your excellent teaching, I also like that you metion the metric digits, since I am from germay.. I learn a lot from your great lessons

[@Spencer93117]

Thanks for another fantastic video Joe, I love your clear and concise information and then it’s followed up by great craftsmanship. Keep doing what you love and sharing it with everyone. Take care and kindest regards from Launceston, Tasmania

[@joepie221]

Thanks for checking in.

[@TheEvertw]

Amazing how well that first carriage fits & slides! Extremely well made!

[@joepie221]

Thank you very much!

[@oregonexpat]

Hey Joe, nicely done, as always.

[@donniceblakely1075]

As always you have taught me something new sir. I never thought about turning small material like that. I appreciate the advice on machining stainless steel also. You the man! I enjoy watching

[@Dagonius.]

Nice job Joe! It is anoying running into faulty drawings... But finding solutions always (well mostly) creates some additional fun. I would have gone for a brass washer instead of the plastic. Or even a bronze bushing or something along those lines. Of course the brass washer would be the easiest. Could even make it's diameter the same as the rod. I think it would look pretty nice just having a neat little golden ring between the colliding parts.

[@ianhand4845]

Once again a lesson from the Master Joe. Thanks again

[@joepie221]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@terryhooper7249]

Great work Joe you did leave out the internal threading on both parts but fairly easy and quick to do

[@joepie221]

I used taps.

[@waf3I]

at 22:34 did you say 1/8 of a millimeter?? 😂 awesome work btw

[@jameslezak7882]

Great video Joe! Nice looking pieces! I see people doing similar work on similar pieces but not getting the perfect looking parts that you do... Experience guys, you will get there! Very informative and entertaining video. Thanks for your time and sharing, Joe! 👍😎✌️🇺🇸

[@joepie221]

Thanks 👍

[@ChrisB257]

Indeed, choice of sequence is potentially critical and that is one of the things in particular which has made your work so interesting to follow... along with your overall attention to detail and - patience!! :)

[@joepie221]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@glencrandall7051]

It just goes to show that following the print isn't always enough. Nice recovery.👍👍Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe. Nice ride.🙂🙂

[@joepie221]

They should have noted the possibility or interference or at least offered advice on what to do if it occurs.

[@SytheZN]

Not sure why, but when you were describing your approach to cutting and advancing the stock in the collet I had it in my mind that you were talking about cutting the threads. Was picturing lining up the threads with each advance and tapering in and out on a single point operation. Nice work though, great to watch!

[@russellmcclenning9607]

Thank you Joe another great video. Can’t wait to see the finished piece.

[@joepie221]

Its getting close.

[@oregonsteamnut]

Another pleasurable view. Thank Joe.

[@be007]

i love it when a plan doesnt come together... nice job joe. cheers ben.

[@joepie221]

Me too. Forensic work is my favorite.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

As "usual", the work of a master. Did a similar thing, left hand threading, 1/4", 3" long, 51 TPI, using a live center and plunsh cutting following Your advice. But single point threading 1/8", 3" long is a lot harder. You've shown that kind of followers rest earlier. Great strategy. Time 12:35. The satisfaction You expressed, well earned. Does "Well done" surprise You Joe? Hardly. Yes, terrible what hit Florida. Unbelievable.

[@StuartsShed]

Nice ride Joe - be safe and well, keep the rubber on the road. Thanks for the tutorials and demonstrations. 👍👍

[@joepie221]

Thanks 👍

[@SpruceSculptures]

This one looks much more difficult to make than any of the other kits you have done. Lots of little fiddly parts. Keep it up, loving it all

[@joepie221]

The lathe carriage and gear cluster were pretty intense, but this one does have a lot going on.

[@WrenchHead]

The last Honda I had years back was an '82 V45 Magna. It was badass for its day.

[@joepie221]

I wanted the V65 in the worst way.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks for sharing! You hit on some great topics. We had an offshore unit that connections kept backing off the screws terminals most new techs don’t watch the job the unit preformed. I helped with the job and watched out for anything abnormal. The unit under full load was shaking the electrical panel like a paint can in a paint shaker. It wasn’t visible to the operator running the equipment. I found some loose brackets and swapped out for better vibration isolator system.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

Hello from spain...very good job joe...thanks for your time

[@brucewood8046]

I like your use of a loupe for making intricate setups. Good work, my friend! Woody

[@joepie221]

They really help. The headset is contributing more and more as I get used to it.

[@wrstew1272]

Joe- you are a true gentleman. And it’s possible that you could be a clock/watchmaker!

[@r2db]

Machining the slight taper to allow the tool to gradually engage is pure genius. For those of us with home shops and generally underpowered machines, are there any similar suggestions you could give for materials that work-harden significantly such as 304/316 stainless?

[@DavidKutzler]

Planning order of operations is one of those things that requires some experience. I find that the most important question I have to ask when I am deciding on order of operations is, "How am I going to hold the part during the next operation, and how rigid will it be." There's nothing more frustrating than realizing too late that you removed material that you needed for holding on a later operation. Sometimes it's like playing three-dimensional chess where you have to think several moves ahead.

[@roberthiggins1142]

Those two parts look great & i like the way that you modified the parts that just didn't fit but do now, it will be great to the unit all put together.

[@joepie221]

I'm looking forward to seeing it all together and running.

[@gjkozy]

The machine models are a fantastic showcase of technique, planning and finish. For us who are not advanced machinist this series is great for absorbing ingenious ways of work holding and approach. One suggestion if I may, the plastic thrust washers are as ugly as sin, if they where cut to the same diameter as the piece that slides into them they would be less conspicuous.

[@joepie221]

Hang in there. I'll clean it up.

[@rexmyers991]

Very nice job! Thanks, Joe. We survived IAN in Tampa. No damage - just branches in the yard. Our friends and relatives just South of here are wiped out. It is horrible

[@joepie221]

I heard from friends down there. Naples is destroyed as well. Mother Nature is a powerful bee yatch.

[@joeziegler9054]

Another awesome video Joe Pie! Thanks for sharing. looking forward to the next one.

[@joepie221]

Coming soon.

[@mperry9025]

Thanks Joe keep safe

[@MichaelLloyd]

I used to ride a VTX-R. Your are correct! It's a beast. I rode it from Weimar, TX, just down the road from you, to CO a couple of years in a row, out to CA and then back to Tombstone for their first bike week. Good times!!. I wonder of the VTXOA forum is still up

[@joepie221]

It is. I was on it last night.

[@MichaelLloyd]

@@joepie221 I used to ride with a lot of people that are (or were) on that site. It's been a lot of years though. I know we lost Lee a few years ago. He made the first forward controls for the R. They made the ride a lot more comfortable.

[@stumccabe]

Beautiful work as usual. Thanks joe.

[@angelramos-2005]

An other piece well made.Thank you Joe.

[@noelhenderson7337]

I spent part of July, all of August and part of September riding my Triumph Tiger 1200 XRx from British Columbia to Cape Breton Island. Then down through Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, California, Mexicali Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Wyoming again, Montana, Idaho, Washington and back to British Columbia. It was a great summer.

[@joepie221]

Nice trip.

[@Gamerock82]

You just made my entire weekend, Joe. Stunning work as always. Thank you for being a tether to sanity and rational thought in a world going nuts. Very interesting plan of attack on these parts and just when I think that insane thread-without-end is the highlight, you just add more and more workshop magic with those fit-ups that are just bang on the money... and when not there is a fix till it's perfect. Thanks for sharing the train of thought behind the choice of sequence. As you say a unique solution for a unique part. I am officially starting a new category, if not already extant. Your channel is pure OCD candy. Thank you for it, good sir. :D EDIT: Only saw the end of the vid now... Sweet ride bud. Kinda style I would go, being only a brick and metric beer can tall, it's about the only shape where I can put a foot down. LOL

[@joepie221]

The bike chose me the day I sat on it for the first time. Fell in love after I punched it for the first time. Thanks for your comments.

[@Gamerock82]

@@joepie221 I bet there's a story there. Cheers :D

[@HexenzirkelZuluhed]

Great work, as usual. Always great tips and tricks in there!

[@danielmorrison7579]

I would love to see you make something with these small machine tools.

[@skipgoryews1356]

Thanks!

[@joepie221]

Thank you.

[@Preso58]

Hey Joe, are the people at PM Research taking note of your feedback in terms of the drawings, tolerances and casting defects? I hope so because it's the best way to improve their product.

[@joepie221]

Hi Mark. We do communicate.

[@SanchesSanches]

sensational, your works are sources of a lot of learning. greetings from Brasil

[@joepie221]

Awesome, thank you!

[@leemarsh3569]

Thanks for another great video. Using a collar is very helpful.

[@joepie221]

It comes in handy.

[@jackpledger8118]

Nice work Joe.

[@scottjones7279]

Good morning Joe. Your skill and technique is so enjoyable to watch and watching your videos exercise my brain which is a very important thing to do. Now if in the middle of making that lead crew the cutting edge of threading tool just fell off and you had to stop and sharpen it would you have to scrap the parts or would you be able to finish the original one. This precision model building looks like the ultimate machinist skill.

[@joepie221]

I could pick it up, but its a fussy trick.

[@claeswikberg8958]

Lovely work

[@quiettime6871]

I had a 2006 1800F. Great bikes, they really fly! Enjoy

[@joepie221]

I had a 2003 too. Liked it so much, I bought another one.

[@deangdmppajj4692]

thanks Joe for another great video. love the bike too. ride safe 👍

[@joepie221]

Thanks 👍

[@bearsrodshop7067]

As always, your abilities and teaching techniques and approach's to get it done right can't to learned in a collage class room (@@)! Thx also for that awesome footage of the Sea Lions during you trip getting up on that boats diving platform :)> Loved it !! Bear.

[@joepie221]

Thanks Bear. Those sea lions were incredibly agile for their size.

[@hossanderson643]

Thanks and another great video as always Hoss

[@oliverwilson6162]

I would love to see you use the finished models to create an even more miniscule set reduced by the same scale. Of course the castings could be a bit tricky!

[@joepie221]

I'll need new eyes to even think about that.

[@oliverwilson6162]

@@joepie221 Highly trained marmosets perhaps?

[@davidberlanny3308]

Always worth staying on right to the end, I bet you enjoyed making some noise with that beast (hope you didnt disturb anyone else making a youtube video!!). Great video as always, great explanation over the setup and analisis of the tolerance build up. Hope your family and friends are OK in Florida it looked like an exceptionally strong hurricane Good luck from Spain!!

[@joepie221]

Thank you. They are inconvenienced but intact.

[@CraigLYoung]

Nice lesson 🙂 thanks for sharing 👍

[@donmadere4237]

Cool how close to the real shaper the model is designed to!

[@MichaelMoranGearHead]

There were some great tips in this video about working on long, and long thin threaded stock. I wish I had them a few days ago. I was making tiny arbors for tiny 0.5 & 0.6 module gears. Eventually I got there. Next time, the Joe Pie way. 😂

[@joepie221]

That follow rest I made is a life saver. Consider making one.

[@MichaelMoranGearHead]

@@joepie221 I should have thought of that. Sigh. I did use a follower rest today to make an even small one (.1095). Rough finish though. But since it will be threaded 4-40 finish is not so important.

[@markbrown-us4xe]

Really nice way to end the day.

[@SlowEarl1]

Thanks Joe!

[@olcanoli1901]

I don't even own a loupe. Always an enjoyable lesson.

[@larryschweitzer4904]

I've got a thread counting magnifier that works well. Folds flat into it's case. When it is open and sits against the work it is in focus.

[@MrAvjones]

Enjoy this video, again great work.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

There is that razor sharp tool again. If it works stay with it eh. Thanks a bunch for leaving the comments up long enough for these old eyes to read it all. Many posts are not like that. Locating on a thread. Something else I would have never thought to do. One more point for you teach. What a great day. Visiting with you and watching Nascar at Talladega in the background. Hmm, no friction washers on this last piece? Thanks bud.

[@joepie221]

Friction washers will be added at the end.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

@@joepie221 I should know better. After all this time now it is as we were quasi partners in the same shop. One day my friend you will literally fire up the burner and tighten that overhead shaft and belts to get this mini shop of yours doing what it has been created for. Steam on my friend! ! !

[@mcgam2000]

It looks like it will be fun installing this top slide on the rest of the body...

[@joepie221]

I'll have to assemble the crank arm sub-assembly to the ram and lower everything down into the body casting from above. Then secure the crank arm.

[@davidmyhre2720]

Hey Joe thank you sir great stuff as always.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for watching

[@thomasherbig]

Love it - so beautiful! But where are the gremlins?

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video Joe.

[@joepie221]

Thank you for your repeated positive comments. I do appreciate it.

[@samrodian919]

Once again Joe, you're the Man! Beautiful bit of threading sir! Can I ask what was the material that the leadscrews were made from?

[@joepie221]

1218

[@modellingmark]

Love your wheels!

[@martineastburn3679]

Wild. Seems to me the threads should be riding outside just a bit in a bushing and the shaft also for the handle. But the screw is far from the rear. The brass sorta holds it but hum.

[@rgetso]

With "eighth of a millimeter," you just confused the entire metric world! 😂

[@FrancisoDoncona]

I approve, fractions over decimals.

[@mpetersen6]

What? .125mm is an invalid dimension?

[@rickvaneijck3016]

We can devide non decimal but we dont like it🤣

[@2lefThumbs]

"Metric" doesn't mean "decimal"🤷‍♂️ (edited from "metric isn't decimal" for clariry)

[@mathewmolk2089]

Nothing new about that. People that use DP Measurements are easily confused. If you want 8- equally spaced holes across a 333 cm space they absolutely freak out.

[@billchiasson2019]

Great video as always! Sweet motorcycle! Did you say 1800 ? That’s a monster!

[@joepie221]

1800 Twin..Yep.

[@skwyrz1]

Another fine video, I thank you.

[@mikepelelo5657]

Great video Joe, as usual. Question: it looks like a casting flaw on the sliding business side of that ram (a small pocket). Do you do anything about that flaw or do you just leave it alone? Doesn't look like it would show when it's all assembled. Thanks..

[@joepie221]

As much as it bothers me. outa sight...outa mind.

[@jamesreed6121]

Making those parts would really stress me out. I remember when you built the follow rest. it didn't show in the video but are you adjusting the follow rest after each pass? Thanks for spending the time to give us subscribers such excellent video. I believe I've even learned a thing or two following your channel, Thanks!

[@joepie221]

No. A follow rest used for a threading operation stays at the initial setting. The OD of the thread doesn't change, so there is no need for adjustment.

[@sticks7817]

May have been suggested as an alternative - couldn't you have ran a ball nose end mill through the bottom of the channel (@ 23:00) where you had the interference fit from the shaft shoulder to give it the needed clearance rather than turning down the radius of the shoulder?

[@joepie221]

Yes, but you would still need to clear the end of that area to allow the collar to sit flush with the end face.

[@sticks7817]

@@joepie221 That was a given, just makes it only one part adjustment rather than both. I've learned a ton from watching your vids, keep up the awesome work!

[@larrywiggins9946]

Great job Joe Larry from New Castle Delaware

[@joepie221]

Thanks Larry.

[@life.is.to.short1414]

That's one nice bike 🏍 👌 👍 😀 👏 😎

[@joepie221]

Thanks ✌️ It pulls hard.

[@erichill5208]

When you unloosen something wouldn’t that be tightening it? Just a thought. Another great video as always

[@DavidKutzler]

It's a running joke in Joe's videos.

[@bryanlatimer-davies1222]

What way do you turn a left hand thread to unloosen it?

[@mpetersen6]

Lefty tighty, righty loosey

[@rickvaneijck3016]

You turn left to unloosen it. And unleft to loosen it.

[@kimber1958]

WOW

[@nine0ten771]

Hey Joe isn't unloosening tightening?

[@bobhudson6659]

Grab a dictionary and look up unloosening. I thought word was fictional til I looked it up.

[@samrodian919]

Ooooo! We're back into this again, what fun Joe!

[@joepie221]

Love it.

[@colincreedtattoomachines]

Terrific work as always Joe. Given you added that nylon washer for the Apron Screw, I'm curious if you intend doing the same, inside for Ram Screw? If so, would you then remove the washer thickness from the Ram body to allow for it, onto that already cleared bearing surface?

[@joepie221]

When I add friction reducing spacers, I always make a surface adjustment somewhere so all the parts rest in there intended position. Good question.

[@OuroborosArmory]

Why single point, and not a die?

[@jimbarchuk]

Because Pie.

[@rayhosking3927]

Because S P is guaranteed to be more concentric

[@joepie221]

@@rayhosking3927 The runout area on the die is much longer.

[@jdm2651]

Would be crazy to die thread something like this makin a die holder held in the chuck, and a sliding collet chuck holding the work in the tailstock? That is, reversing the classic die threading setup, which can't reach such long threads.

[@joepie221]

I've actually done that.

[@al69770-b]

Loved this vid, thankyou Joe! Had your stock not been straight...? I'm not afraid to admit, whenever I have tried to straighten a pin...I somehow wind up with licorice! 😏 Nice bike ! 👍

[@joepie221]

The bike is a good stress reliever. Especially at a red light.

[@stevebosun7410]

Nice work as usual Joe. Master of miniature engineering.

[@joepie221]

Thank you.

[@WireWeHere]

Unloosen is a tight term to pull daydreamers from your wake.

[@johnsawyer2516]

Unloosen, eighth millimetre, hump hump. Joe inventing a new machinery language 😂

[@joepie221]

You should see my notes when I run a lathe.

[@Unrivaledanime]

Is the screw too short now with that shoulder gone?

[@joepie221]

Nope. Its spot on.

[@BensWorkshop]

Good work, nice bike. Is that a supercharger inlet? Also have you ever used a shaper? Also have you seen the finish they can produce?

[@joepie221]

Although it looks like a supercharger, its called a Hypercharger. Its an air intake, but not forced. Just focused. And no, I've never run a shaper.

[@BensWorkshop]

@@joepie221 Shapers can produce a remarkably flat surface with excellent finish.

[@CRILIKk]

Hey joe, what type of phenolic follow rest did you use? Iv never seen one before & was wondering what it was?

[@joepie221]

I designed and built it myself. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXXMZp2KrdKgfZI

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed…

[@joepie221]

Hi Chuck. Thanks for stopping by.

[@sdrc92126]

Is that an acme thread on the leadscrew?

[@joepie221]

No. 60 degree imperial profile.

[@sdrc92126]

@@joepie221 :)

[@ronwilken5219]

Was that a loosened one or an un-loosened one ?

[@dalemcinnes1834]

Both

[@matthewfort3740]

Nice way to get it done. I like the way you solved a problem.

[@patwicker1358]

Joe I see you use a lot of 5C collets, do find much need for ER collets? I want to buy my first set and get the most useful ones.

[@joepie221]

I like the closing mechanism for the 5C, but ER collets have a wider squeeze range. I use ER on my CNC mill. I think I'd suggest 5C for the lathe and mill for the accessory applications too.

[@patwicker1358]

@@joepie221 thank you

[@Nebulorum]

Kind of a wizard to assemble this, on full Scale machine you have hand to put your fingers…

[@philbaker29]

Where can I find one of these "mini machine" kits? 🤔

[@joepie221]

Pm Research. Patrons to this channel get a 10% discount on any purchase when they use the code. www.pmmodelengines.com/product-category/machine-tools/machine-models/

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

@@joepie221 Just a note from Devmeister Super Precision and New Yankee Woodworks. PM Research is the USA company making these kits. Their castings are excellent quality. Their customer service is awesome. They have a great selection. Another company selling machine kits is martin models. More practical stuff like their universal pillar drill but Martin is a awesome pattern-maker and does great casting kits as well. I have the PM #1 steam engine kit and I was quite impressed with it. The english firm is stuart models. Been around forever. Excellent quality and selection. They also have mini machine tools and some are nicer than PM's selection but their price is higher as well. Just a note on shapers. Some consider them obsolete. FO Stanley used a round manhole access cover to get access to the steam chest on the stanley steam car engines. This makes access difficult. We have found that antique shapers like this model are really one of the only efficient ways to gain access to the inner surfaces of these engines. The D valve must mate tightly. Stanley's engines have machine work that will make you really think about how to do things. Not really set up for CNC this and that. Joe's work and quality videos bring much of the old world techniques in to clear focus. Its great to see some of his old world tricks and techniques which will bring your skills up a notch or two. The follow rest is a clever attachment to deal with a pain in the rear single point threading operation.

[@rickvaneijck3016]

Is it acme or square treath?

[@mpetersen6]

Trapeziodal 😁

[@joepie221]

@@mpetersen6 Imperial. 60 degree

[@mpetersen6]

@@joepie221 I knew that. One smarty pants deserves a reply. I wouldn't even want to try and grind an Acme tool that fine without a really good surface grinder that you can reliably feed in tenths at a minimum plus a clear sharp shadowgraph with enough magnification. And a grinding block to hold the tool solidly. Can you imagine doing a Whitworth that has the proper crest and root radius 😫