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[@michaelholts1598]

I like Army Painter speed paint the most, HOWEVER, for this kind of comparison, I’d have preferred the same model be painted. Then again, while I use speed paints, I don’t like slap the chop method. Even the top tier painters seem to have an obviously grey undertone rather than a darker color.

[@itsio7188]

I too enjoy that runic color blue. The Citadel, I think, needs to be thinned. To be honest I think all should be thinned.

[@iTerra_]

You're the first person I think I've ever heard that repaints the caps to get a true color representation of the paint inside. Nice tip, I'll have to use it myself.

[@OctopusPrime3]

I would like to see vallejo xpress. They seem to be slightly fainter than Speedpaint and Contrast, but darker than GSW dipping inks (without the cracking). Also supposed to be as consistent as Speedpaint.

[@qmoor]

I would like to see a video of you trying the Vallejo Xpress paints next. The dipping ink orange looks great for a dirty T-shirt.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I would love to try theirs and see how it compares, yup it does thats why I left it and didnt give it a second coat, Im sure all ork clothes should look dirty 🙂

[@ironreed2654]

Never thought I'd be saying the Army Painter Paint looked best.

[@mrwabbit9576]

Army painter are one of the best in general, not just speed paint.

[@mrwabbit9576]

Army painter are one of the best in general, not just speed paint.

[@ironreed2654]

Afraid plenty of people disagree with you

[@mrwabbit9576]

@@ironreed2654 unlikely they actually use their paints then. Their range refresh has their paints on a par with any citadel or Vallejo ones. Often cheaper too. Maybe like 6 years ago when they used a gel mix but that's not the case now.

[@CastironWhisky]

"I've never spilt a pot" Well I hope that Gork and Mork don't decide to mess with you over that comment! Great video thank you for sharing!

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Haha, Im never using contrast paints again so I will always be able to say I never spilt any 😂

[@Treaclebasket]

Lovely paint jobs on all of the miniatures. While I appreciate your enjoyment of the way the dipping inks feel as you apply them, I'd have to say I much preferred the overall finished look of the speed paints one. Great video though, and lovely printed greenskins!

[@calebstewart2579]

If there is a color of speed paint you prefer they do make a ‘speedpaint medium’ you can use to then it down and have more control! Always enjoy your videos! Cheers!

[@zakhunt]

Nice video! I'd love to see some experimentation with different primer/undercoat colors before the drybrush step. Black looks ok as a shadow color for some stuff, but with many colors it just doesn't look right. I'd love to see if something like a brown, deep purple, dark blue, etc would work better. I keep meaning to try it myself but I don't get much time at the painting desk lately. Thanks!

[@ThePolycrue]

Great video! Love the The Army Painter for Speed painting.

[@jimzecca3961]

The dipping inks green really looks good.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

It is a great orky colour 🙂

[@harrymanback3475]

Interesting comparison ty 😊👍

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Thank you for watching and commenting, much appreciated 🙂

[@bumblaster9000]

you probably have already but you really should try priming with a grey, instead of black, followed then with your white dry brush. Halfords grey is good for this, the results are fantastic

[@MrAndyPuppy]

I think to be completely honest, you're right that you are going to be best off by mix and matching. I really dislike the way some of the dipping inks turned out on this orc, but love others. Same with the other two.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yup this is the joy of trying different paints as they are not all the same which is great 🙂

[@JRMcDowell]

I have watched a bunch of these type of reviews, and I think you have done one of the better ones if not the best one. Great video!

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Why thank you so much 🙂

[@TBA121RVC]

Very helpful video, thanks a lot!

[@nicknewing1196]

Give Acylic inks a try, such intense colours and so versatile... GSW have just released a range of transparent and opaque inks

[@CoryJohnsonfootsteps]

Love the vid, love MrModulork, and I own most all the citadel contrasts and I think you should try mantis warriors green for Orks. It’s a favorite.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yup I love all his stuff and its great that you can mix and match bodies/heads etc... 🙂

[@Mugdorna]

Trying my hand at painting again last night (havent painted a figure in 15 years) Spray primer with Citadel Black. Then thought to use SpeedPaint GraveLord Grey and Blinding White to try slapchop. Found the grey to be almost black and no discernible effect. So used the white for the drybrushing. Its more like a pale grey on the models (and my fingers) The models look mostly OK (a few got too much or too little paint) But Im going to buy AK paints bright white to add some white drybrushing before adding speedpaints and/or contrast paints. might try a different size drybrush when I start another batch.

[@greyshadedminis]

Great video 🔥🔥🔥

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Cheers bud 🙂

[@seppyseppi6889]

Have recently assembled my Ork Kommando Killteam and haven't started painting them yet so this is a great resource. Does slapchopping work with watered down standard paints? I don't have any contrast/inks in green but love the slapchop look. Keep up the great work!

[@TheAlphaDingo]

I'm just getting back into the hobby and keen to look into the 3d print file side of things (so I don't need to necessarily buy ready made minis). Very cool showing MyMiniFactory and the 3D print process! For anyone in the know, how do the new Army Painter Speedpaints 2.0 compare to the originals? Is it a big improvement?

[@danieldickson3701]

I’d love to see a comparison with standard paints mixed with contrast medium. I’m new to painting minis and discovered slap-chop through your videos. I have a set of fanatics and a bottle of contrast medium so I’ll have an experiment myself but I’d love to see how you manage as a pro and how it holds up against your others.

[@loydmorton9134]

Send the paints my way please! Not too far, South Africa! Love your videos keep it up

[@deathrieper]

I started with speed paints, saw your video where you started using dipping inks, which made me look into em, because i really wasn´t fan of speed paints "skin" options. Because i looking for a good skin whenever i finally dare paint some Kingdom death:monster minis. Ordered the big dipping ink box, and no regret at all. Nude skin, fits skin tone i want far better, black and white are better then speed paints overall. Then same time Blue glacier has given me one my favorit light blue paints, the cape i put it on, looked so good! So i am fan of using both. Though, i got 1 problem with dipping inks(Problem a lot paints have). Fact that Army painter now puts actually colour names on, on top of the fantasy name, just make it easier to pick right colour to me. But this is a thing that should become a standard with minis paint lines, but to be fair also something army painter first started doing with 2.0 line of speed paints and now fanatic. Also Greenstuffworld being spain and army painter being Denmark, means easy access to both own shops!(being from Denmark myself)

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Ahh thats good to hear, I have just recieved all the larger 60ml bottles and will be doing a video showing how they all look, just as soon as I print out some bottle toppers lol, Im glad you like them after seeing me use them 🙂

[@demon1103]

Speedpaint and Dipping ink had some real winners here. GSW Acid Green has recently been my go to for Ork skin, but that AP Charming Chartreuse looks really good as well (may need to grab some to give my boyz some more variety XD). I like both blues for the denim with GSW for new and AP for old washed out looks. The GSW brown also looks really good for leather.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

To be fair they all did a great job at making a noob paint to a very happy standard lol 😂

[@Lucius292]

i really like vallejo express paints. dont know exactly why, but i like the warm colors 😊

[@matthewallison5219]

I find them nearly impossible to find.

[@abelhernandez7809]

​@@matthewallison5219 same, I'd love to try them, but their distribution to the US sucks

[@Lucius292]

In Europe its no problem. But i see…

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I need to try them 🙂

[@sgt-slag]

Really good, demonstrative, comparative video. Guessing those figures are 32mm or larger? Most figure painting videos feature larger figures: they're easier to paint compared to 28mm or smaller. Unfortunately, I only game with 28mm figures, often true 25's, down to 18mm figures. The smaller figures are much more challenging to work on, due to their smaller details. Still, a very useful, helpful video. Cheers!

[@lilpain1997]

I prime white then use a dark tone wash then use my vallejo Xpress range. Looks better than slapchopimo and is faster. Meaning i can take it up a notch if i wanted to. The xpress range us actually amazing as well. Going to have to grab speedpaints at some point as well

[@kylethompson2199]

My favourite is the middle army painter one. I would really like to buy a set of army painter speed paints at some point.

[@AlexAlivan]

This is the video that o finally subscribed on. I will definitely get into slapchop even though i have bad experience with GSW inks, once i almost ruined my necron overlord when i tried to wash his gold painted cape with Ancient Sepia and it dried all wierd and blochy and uneven. But Army Painter paints do look tempting to get back into slapchop

[@susanjensen5787]

tea in hand lol!!! i need dipping inks i think but i still dont have speed paint i have army painter regular 1.0 mega set and craft barrel bottles

[@chrishorton3217]

im am just learning to paint minis so im practicing on duplicate mini sets. i am using cheap brushes but if you can give me your opinion on starter brushes and sizes, mid brushes and sizes, and best brushes and sizes. so far ive painted 1 mini ironman lol about 1000 minis left to paint from sci fi to fantasy medieval

[@stuartwalters96]

You've become my guilty pleasure! I paint ok but for wargaming I want a quick table top result. I've tried slap chop and love it. But I've experimented from other techniques and found an even quicker way using speed/contrast paints that give a the same result but with less effort. I spray an undercoat of white and then wash the model with Allys brown liquid (loads of vids on this wash) which is 2 parts agrax wash, 2 parts serphion sepia and 1 part lamian media. I make whole empty paint pot worth of this mix so not mixing it for each paint session. Once dry I then use speed/contrast/inks to paint my minis, starting with the darkest colours first, and then using lighter colours which require less accuracy as the lighter paint doesn't affect the dark paint already applied. I paint a unit of 10 German Grenadiers in about 4 hours including drying time and they look great.

[@stuartwalters96]

forgot to mention, I call this method fence panel as its literally like toshing on paint!

[@goforitpainting]

Cool 🖌

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Thank you so much🙂

[@danieldickson3701]

I’d definitely be interested in buying second hand paints. Especially if you’re selling by the bag load! You could just do mystery bags to save yourself the effort of picking out colours. 😂 I’m in the UK so shipping wouldn’t be an issue.

[@HellSpawn50000]

I‘ve used Akhelian Green Contrast for the Shorts of a Goblin Girl. I‘ve wanted a Jeans like look. The effect is nice too in the Citadel World :)

[@trynda1701]

Thank you for another great Miniature Hobbyist video. 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎 Nice comparisons here. I'm wondering if you shouldn't have given the orange Dipping Ink a second coat to more closely resemble the other two oranges. Would love to see you do more D&D miniatures, by the way! 😃😃😃😃

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Thank you so much, I love the look of the GSW orange as it looks more like a dirty t shirt lol, more D&D HeroQuest incoming🙂

[@cymraegddraig]

It's interesting. I've watched the broadsword wargaming vid do the same.thing and the dipping inks came out the worst (not for slap chop but just applied to a white primer) Always good to see more opinions mind

[@adamduncton6054]

Love your channel and how you slap chop. I wondered if you had ever done slap chop or dry brush techniques for custodes? I’ve returned to the hobby after a LONG lay off but was never any good at painting and frankly it terrifies me lol. Any advice would be great! 🙏

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

There is a video out there somewhere where I paint custodes, well only 4 for a kill team 🙂

[@midlife_mtb]

black legion is a really good full coverage black, doesnt reall so the contrast thing, black templar is more contrasty, all turned out good though

[@todsmith6591]

I think I'm more of a mix and match kind of guy. There are times I want the paint to go on thick and hard and then other times I'd be good with Green Stuff inks and want a slower build up. I disagree on the basis of this that there is a 'far and away favorite' as some elements are necessary if you know what you are looking for straight away.

[@pdubb9754]

Thank you for sharing this! If you did it because I requested it, double thanks! Overall, in this experiment, I like the Army Painter. The unic Grey blue jeans are definitely the color I like for my own blue jeans, but you can get them in a variety of colors, so all paints are passable. I dislike the dipping ink orange petty much for the same reason you like it -- different strokes for different folks! I assume the reason that dipping ink orange went on thinly is lower pigmentation, compared to the other two orange paints. If that is what you like, couldn't you also achieve the same affect by diluting the Speedpaint or Citadel oranges with medium? I guess that takes work; so does adding another layer if you want more pigment, so again, different strokes. I don't think it is a universal truth that the dipping inks are low in pigment though. That green went on beautifully!

[@VolkAus]

Are the speed paints you are using the first kind or the 2.0 that had the reactivation fixed. I got first version speedpaint and now mix a tiny amount of varnish into it to prevent reactivation though it does change the final result.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

They are the 2.0 ones 🙂

[@maximem.ste-marie3578]

You should have written in the video wich model was painted with what kind of paint

[@axlefoley6330]

Ok I would love to know what I’m doing wrong with “contrast” paints. Every time I use them they don’t seem to flow anywhere near as well as I see others. It’s kinda frustrating

[@michaelshort1411]

Depends on what Im doing or what colors I wanna use. Im still old school Testors enamel model paints user since my childhood. But I also use the cheap acrylic paint Apple Barrel from Walmart. So if Im using my enamels ill stick with using the Testors, only because you cant mix acrylic water base with Testors oil base enamel paint. So you definitely need to stick with one or other and complete the project with that paint base.

[@MarkWidner]

Price isnt cheaper in the US for GSW paints from what i have found.

[@allenforbes8108]

You can print a car, Print a House! Any better null oil updates? Maybe the citadel blue with Runic blue over it would look even better. Dipping brown, looks more like it should go on a ruk sack. Citadel reds always seems magenta. I seem to lean to the middle Ork, but a lot can be said for each. However as you said, I'm stuck in the bargin craft apple barrel cash level, but watching your show and a few others have led me to a few of my own "hot takes", so thank you.

[@richarddakin542]

I had the original speed paints, so started replacing them with the speedpaint 2.0s, however I'm super annoyed that my Magic Blue 2.0 has ended up cracking when it dried. Have you ever seen any cracking with the speedpaint sets? I'm considering moving over to the dipping inks now

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I cant say I had any problems with the speedpaint 2.0, I have used the magic blue on space marines and it came out well, maybe you had a dodgy one 🙃

[@SweetBabyBuddha]

would like to see you painting sisters of battle, and trying to put makeup on them so i can see someone suffer like i have to /s also i love striking scorpion green contrast paint on my orks

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Erm I think I will give that a miss just like I dont paint eyes, I dont mind red dots for ork eyes but thats about it 😂

[@CPyJIb]

I switched to Grey primer > Dark Dipping meme Wash from AP > White Drybrush. Less preparation time and better results.

[@EddieClements-gi6hy]

I meant I’m new I’m painting has been painting so much warmer figurines. I started the paint the dinosaur figures right now.

[@ChuckCanada1]

I mix and match a lot. Even right on my pallet, I'll mix GW paints into Scale 75 paints etc.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I really need to do that but hate using them together lol, I have no idea why 😂

[@austin316gb]

I'd definately buy second hand paints. Especially at the moment as I try and get started again after about 35 years 😂

[@MrAndyPuppy]

I'm doing this experiment with the 5 one-coat paint ranges at the moment, but with exactly the same mini for all. The two you don't have in this video are the Vallejo Xpress range, and the Scale75 Instant Color range.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Ahh Ive not heard of the scale57instant range, maybe I need to contact them then 🙂

[@madpolitico]

I’m in a similar boat with Contrast, have a lot of them but haven’t used them much yet. Which makes it painful seeing videos where I feel like the AP SpeedPaint just looks better, but it’s hard to justify buying another range of similar paints unless I go on a massive painting frenzy in the near future. (Which I might… I have plenty of unassembled minis just waiting for some paint, and “slap chop” is a good way to feel like I can get them tabletop quality without feeling like a chore.)

[@iantellam9970]

Just buy a bottle of speedpaint medium and thin your contrast paints with them when you paint and they'll behave more like speedpaints. I use both ranges. Speedpaints take longer to dry and have an oilier feel, they're slightly less prone to coffee staining. But it's all about the medium really, so if you cut one with the other you'll get some of the benefits. And in my experience all contrast/speedpaints work best thinned with some medium.

[@shinypuppy1014]

Try painting a 3d printed tyranid army 🤗

[@forging.fantasy]

Green Stuff World Dipping Inks are awesome.. It's my go since they came out. Man! Love your content! SLAPCHOP is the best! Yeah!

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Thank you so much, yup Im loving GSW stuff at the mo 🙂

[@toddzino58]

Just bought 60ml of the dipping ink GSW Acid green. Awesome color.

[@GoufinAround_]

Interesting to see how they work, but I generally make it a point to not give green stuff world my money

[@Glynixx]

I’m interested in but some paint - idk if shipping would be too expensive tho

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Take a look online and see 🙂

[@Glynixx]

@@MiniatureHobbyist Where are you located?

[@Prickles2001]

What's the mesh? Just fly screen mesh?

[@valbios1984]

Space wolf gray from citadel is better for denim ;)

[@richarddakin542]

I've changed to priming in grey, washing with black and then dry brushing in white. I find it works better for models that it's hard to get the dry brush in to. Maybe try it for yourself and see if you prefer it? Not that I've seen you do any closed stance minis

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Hhmm sounds interesting, maybe after I get through the 12 cans of black primer I have first lol 😂

[@ieatstheinternet]

You don't like mixing paint ranges?! Crazy. Might want to to work on getting over that. Can only see it making your content stronger. Would make for a neat follow up video where you take your favorites from an experiment like this and see if combined they look best. Enjoyed the video none the less.

[@nickrobertsN7]

Wet pallet? Not used one but does that not allow you to thin?

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yup thats a wet pallete, cant say I really use one, textured dry brush I use all the time 🙂

[@Prototheca]

Why no Vallejo?

[@KyProRen]

Question; What's Slapshop?

[@user-bx5vv6ny4x]

I would be interested in buying your paints. Will you be putting them I your ebay page?

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yeah but would probably rather sell them as complete sets rather than individuals, I will try and get on that later next week 🙂

[@user-bx5vv6ny4x]

@@MiniatureHobbyist Understood. My funds are a bit limited so I might not be able to afford to buy them as a job lot, but from your perspective this makes the most sense.

[@Hidoi88]

GSW Dipping Ink: Dusty Blue is a great colour for denim. In case anyone watching wonders which paint he meant in the video, since it was never stated. Much more suitable to the green shark skin dipping ink.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yup thats the one I looked at after I did the video and thought it would make a much better denim look 🙂

[@qmoor]

What 3D printer do you think it's the easiest for a first-time buyer?

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

To be honest these days they are all easy as so many now self level, this elegoo one is awesome for that and is well priced too 🙂

[@kendonfahr8337]

Random question: whenever I've seen slapchop on other channels, they use a grey paint before a white. Is there a particular reason why you don't?

[@dextersamson8286]

It's pointless that's why

[@kendonfahr8337]

@@dextersamson8286, if you dry brush grey over most of the model, and use white only on the most prominent points, it gives greater depth. Looks quite good.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I used to drybrush with grey and then white then one day I just went straight to white and cant see I notice any difference so I just skip that step to save a little bit more time 🙂

[@Rufio6814]

If you don't want them I'll take them. Price?

[@DMDuncan37]

I préfère speedpaint, many and nice color (9 différents green 😅), good Price less 4€ for 18ml 👍

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Yup definently more choice of colours with AP 🙂

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

I really wish people would get away from the SL technique and learn how to properly zenthial. SL leaves such a sandy end result that comes off very amatuerish, its expecially worse when you see a good painter use it, because you know its only holding them back.

[@jamiewood987]

i think we know what slapchop is by now john.

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Hhmm are you sure though, maybe in 5 years everyone will know 😋

[@nocturnowl_0100]

Runic Grey isn't a blue though....

[@Lucius292]

combine them all 😂

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

I know I should lol 😂

[@xxbrkdwnxx]

Army Painter has completely taken the crown in the contrast paint space. all their colors pop and cover perfectly.

[@nickrobertsN7]

Could have done it without telling US the viewer which range you used and the asked which we thought was the best without knowing. Future video? Also printed 3 sets and done the same figure? What size are they? They look much bigger than say AoS

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Could have but would then have dozens of messages saying YOU the viewer would like to know what the name of the paint was lol 😂

[@nickrobertsN7]

Or had a vote on which we thought was best and then a reveal video ohhhhh 🙀🫨 the mystery......

[@forcryingoutloud71]

I picked up the Dipping Inks mega set on your recommendation. I haven't tried them yet, but I'm looking forward to getting them on the table soon.

[@lordsnake1988]

I'm gonna br biased as hell but I can't with speed paints... They are defective and with reactivation issues. I did the mistake of buying the mega set box back in time. Please don't. They're defective and they have reactivation issues. Just the humidity in the air or your hand will reactivate them and ruin the mini

[@chuck2703]

I actually use them for blending

[@susanjensen5787]

lol microphone or orkie grenade stick haha frag based on the style

[@nicholasquandel1762]

please do another slap chop video, we dont have enough...

[@nytanjl]

Please make another useless comment, we don't have enough... 😂

[@MiniatureHobbyist]

Sarcastic or not thankyou for taking the time to add a comment and you are quite right so 100's more slap chop content incoming 🙂

[@untimention]

Speed paint for me is the winner but please buy a plastic razor to remove your prints. Gives me anxiety watching you use the metal scraper

[@jasonpaulson9116]

F GSW! If you support them, I wont support you. Sorry.

[@lordhusee]

just scratching my head over here. i guess you consider yourself a mini painter. you like the watery one, which is fine. but hey, did you know you can thin the others too? i tested these dipping inks, they are just pisswasser