MiniMotorsUSA Dualtron 3 / Spider / Thunder Comparison. Checkout the 3 fastest scooters on Earth.

[@benwynn843]

Thank you Cooper of MinimotorU.S.A I just unboxed my Thunder you sent me. This thing is a beast, and it has more power than I needed going up hills wow!! It's expensive, but its worth every penny. I live in San Diego and my job is located downtown San Diego.There are no parking for employees such as myself and if they are availble it is around $10-45 a day to park. I 'm very happy to start riding my Thunder to work from now on and the Daultron Thunder is a pleasure at 35 to 40 MPH on a single motor. Once again, Thanks Cooper for all your assistance answering all my questions before my purchased, I hope I did not drive you crazy LOL..... peace.

[@nealjackman9864]

Your face @ 8:47 SOLD me ! please keep the content flowing

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Hahaha. Thanks!

[@one-of-us9939]

I've been comparison shopping... right now Dualtron is winning. Absolutely thought your 3 tier review was brilliant! But I must say, I'd like to have seen the Dultron Ultra in the mix.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Thanks! The Dualtron Ultra is now obsolete, and been fully replaced by the Thunder which is better in literally every way. Out with the old as and in with the new!

[@one-of-us9939]

@@MiniMotorsUSA thanks for replying. But Ewheels will sell me an ultra with off road tires, you really should comparison review test it. Living out in the country minds want to know... just like me. Asphalt is over 1/2 mile away. And I can guarentee if I'd like to see the Ultra off road... others will too. Thanks for reading

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

​@@one-of-us9939 Always happy to reply. Just so you know we just answered @IainDonald but just in case you missed it, this is something you should know: We sold The Ultra (before it was replaced with the Thunder) and sold both the on and off-road models (same thing except tires). Pretty much everyone liked the street tires more than the offroad. The offroad tires were alright on fire roads, but so were the street. The problem was on the street, the off road tires were slippery, vibrated, and gave you a severe lack of feedback. It felt very similar to riding a dirt bike with knobby tires on the street, which is not at all pleasant. Moving forward the Thunder is not available with off-road tires. You can source them, but no longer offered by MiniMotors.

[@one-of-us9939]

@@MiniMotorsUSA I like the Thunder, i follow your lead about knobby tire feel... how much are you asking for one? Thanks

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

@@one-of-us9939 All of our prices are up on our site: www.minimotorsusa.com. I hope we didn't come across like Ultra haters, just moving along with the tech!

[@HayabusaOrlando]

Best scooter information video I've seen. Awesome work. And that country road was an excellent choice. Keep up the good work.

[@martelexington3756]

I picked up a Thunder from you guys, it was the best decision I've ever made. This scooter is SO SO SO fun, I have been riding it around LA for about 2 months and can't get enough. Be prepared to talk A LOT about this scooter, because everyone wants to know what the hell is going on. Keep up the good work boys, thanks for the video!

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Thanks Marte that's awesome, we are always happy to help you out!

[@jasontomica8938]

How many miles on it scooter now

[@benjieG23]

Hi marte, im.om dt3 or thunder,,, my problem is the size becoz ill go with the scooter to go work and to go with friends to offroad sometimes wat u recommend? Dt3 and thunder size is like the same?? Only weigh changes 35kg vs 43kg and 11 tires of thunder

[@joeb7348]

Informative! Looks like a blast! I want one now to use for my commute to work!

[@brianholtz1965]

"ABS is a little bit rough". Definite understatement. ABS was a significant consideration for the Dualtron 3 that I bought today, but one stop with ABS enabled was enough to make me give up on ABS. It's too chattery, it feels like driving over micro speed bumps. The rest of the Dualtron experience is so smooth and quiet that it makes the ABS intolerable. Nevertheless, I'm glad I bought the D3. Jay at Last Mile SF was super helpful. I can't wait to test the range on this beast.

[@jasontomica8938]

How many miles do u have now

[@vincentyusuf9578]

i dont mean to be offtopic but does anybody know a tool to get back into an instagram account?? I was stupid forgot my login password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me.

[@samraphael1941]

@Vincent Yusuf instablaster :)

[@vincentyusuf9578]

@Sam Raphael I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and im in the hacking process now. Takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.

[@vincentyusuf9578]

@Sam Raphael It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much, you really help me out !

[@DIYMark]

Thanks! Much needed video. John and Brian are great and definitely have your back if you experience any issues. Got a DT 3 from them and really enjoying it.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Thanks Mark!

[@benjieG23]

Hi diymark, why u dont take thunder for a bit less more money? Im still thinking wat ill take, dt3 or thunder...the size its like the same...?? Maybe thunder 11 tires and more bit bigger the table ?? Thank need ur answer to can decide

[@efinimazda4226]

Thank you guys for this video, I have been stewing over the thunder for some time now... this vid made it clear that the thunder is the scooter for me. You will be hearing from me shortly.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Great to hear and happy to help. We do have Thunders in stock!

[@jeffbergstrom9658]

Do these have a waterproof rating? I do not mean to throw them in a pool or ride them in a thunderstorm but rain and puddles happen when out and about.

[@A1DULLU]

My biggest concern with making a purchase

[@microiden]

Jeff Bergstrom according to what I’ve been told, Dualtrons are not waterproof at all. The deck has a rubber seal, but apparently the controller is senistive for water. All according to the local dealer in Sweden. However, I’ve seen vids on people running Dualtrons in the wet.

[@Duf]

Nice review, I am liking our Dualtron 2 Ex but the 3 and Thunder look even better!

[@MichaelRada-INDUSTRY50]

Nice one. I will not switch from my EUC but will share with people who need two wheels and a lot of fun.

[@pin2124]

My brother and I just got our Spiders. Light and fast! The weight was a big point. Much easier to load and unload. Plenty of climbing power!

[@PhoenixRising420]

Would you suggest the spider for urban city trips (downtown L.A.) for 10 miles....230lb person...whatcha think? Enuff power and agility/strength to make it? Or get the dualtron3?

[@TheArtofBoxing101]

bro spider for SURE.. it'll def get you around downy lol, faster than cars lol

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

@@PhoenixRising420The DT3 is more fun and the Spider is more practical. Your weight won't matter on either... Tons of power!

[@TheArtofBoxing101]

dude 100% yes lol.

[@InegoMinblan]

@@PhoenixRising420 What about wobbling on Spider with such narrow tyres?

[@lennykibbs260]

Late to the party...but the smile transition from the spider to the thunder on the test riders face is classic

[@Fren33]

1. Won't you get finger cramp with the throttle? Any reason not to go with a twist throttle instead? 2. Availability in Canada or a similar type scooter as the Spider or 3?

[@ThiccusDiccus]

1. It has cruise control (can be activated in the settings) so if you go a constant speed you do not have to hold the throttle down. 2. No idea

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

Same here ‘bout finger throttle👎 Am waiting for a fast model with a centered speedo

[@jayeshpatel838]

Can a handle bar retention hook, like on the Dualtron 3, be added to the Spider and can the handles bars be changed for folding one? Also when folded and powered off can they (any model) be wheeled around on one wheel - you know like a wheelie suitcase...

[@raftor___]

Hello, very nice video ! Can I use excerpts from the video (without sound) to illustrate what I'm saying in my video? This is for a french presentation video. Thank you for your reply. Yours sincerely 😉

[@MyDateCoach]

I live in a very hilly area. The 3 looks like it’s right for me. A discussion about tyres road v off-road for use on gravel paths would be useful.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

We live in San Francisco so very used to the hills, and all 3 models charge up and down the steepest streets here. We sold The Ultra (before it was replaced with the Thunder) and sold both the on and off-road models (same thing except tires). Pretty much everyone liked the street tires more than the offroad. The offroad tires were alright on fire roads, but so were the street. The problem was on the street, the off road tires were slippery, vibrated, and gave you a severe lack of feedback. It felt very similar to riding a dirt bike with knobby tires on the street, which is not at all pleasant. Moving forward the Thunder is not available with off-road tires. You can source them, but no longer offered by MiniMotors.

[@MyDateCoach]

MiniMotors USA thank you for the response. Is the 3 and upgrade from the 2ex? 3600.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

@@MyDateCoach Yup, that is correct.

[@pl1753]

Do you have any idea when you will be selling the Compact?

[@billylumio2810]

Hi Mini-guys. Seriously considering the Spider. My Kaabo Mantis died on me after 1500 miles and I'm hoping Dualtron has more staying power. I'm concerned that the spider won't stack up to the dual 1000w motors of the Mantis?? The Mantis just barely got me up SF hills, doing 15mph or so by the top. If the spider has dual 650w motors, think it would make it? I've lost a few pounds. Used to be 200, but am now 185. And the spider is 20lbs lighter than the mantis.

[@MyriadInvest]

Waiting for the storm to come out.

[@TomTom-xp2jb]

Great presentation!!! The Thunder gets my vote!!! Looks like a ton of fun!!! 👍

[@Mr.D.Michael]

I've put Slime in both my Dualtron Thunder 2 Tyres. Will this help or was it Unnecessary? Also, Will it be an easy fix come replacing the tyres? Thanks!

[@BoxofDemons]

Would like to see off road and hill tests.

[@FyeNikka1]

Can't wait to get my Storm next year in March..... Very very excited

[@kripkethechameleonfriends4505]

You guys did awesome, great review. Can you add a removable seat to sit, on any of these scooters?

[@chriskozlarek8013]

I think you can on all of them

[@handsomeandedgy7242]

excellent review - especially like the side by side comparison. What are the exact deck measurements of all 3 models please

[@TheOriginalAndysGarage]

I ride electric unicycles and have the gotway monster and in-motion V8, I'm starting to consider one of these as an extra toy

[@mychaelpierce8049]

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

[@afallenstar4u]

So I'm wondering if you guys are going to make a video on how to go in and dial everything in and adjust it in the programming? Or will there be a book when mine come in that explains all of that? I think it would be great to know how to adjust the abs and everything without fear of messing something else up in the process lol.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Good idea for a future video! It does come with a manual explains everything and you call always give us a call with any questions.

[@afallenstar4u]

@@MiniMotorsUSA yeah I seen that when I just got my thunder in but that's still not as informative as a video. I think its awesome you guys have such great customer support but how hard would it be to explain how to do all that over the phone?. Probably Be easier to just point someone to a pre made video wouldn't it?. Thanks for the reply though :)

[@pssyslyrr6074]

does dt 3 and dt thunder have the same motorhub size without the rim?

[@l-Lucid-l]

Is the deck of the Thunder larger than the zero 11x?

[@tomthomsen11]

Can you please make a twist throttle? I buy one then! These look awesome though!

[@makatron]

That's a bad idea, you're standing and holding the handle to keep you from falling, it's the same with atv and jetski. You don't want a wrist throttle.

[@rhinofob3447]

Would the thunder tyres fit the ultra?

[@csabas46]

Yes! Identical!

[@rhinofob3447]

Thanks!

[@carlossss93]

Can i buy in europe? and tunder is the best right? i need for havy people

[@alejandrocaicedojord]

Do you know de weighr without batteries ( Dualtron 3, spider and thunder)?

[@Haneekak]

3 is lighter den thunder, so its like comparing yamaha r6 to r1.

[@AustenSummers]

What location is this? Where are you delivering this? It's so pretty

[@yolovanusa629]

I just wish that you guys can ship to my country ( NZ 🇳🇿) . I’ve watched a lot of e scooter but nothing can beat Dualtron scooters , dream to owe me one . Love Dualtron Thunder. ❤️😍😎

[@benwynn843]

I live in San Diego California, and I just got the Dualtron Thunder. This scooter is a beast, it has more power than I needed to go up hills at around 40-45 mph without slowing down .. wow... wow... I hope you will get it one day soon brother...Peace!!!!!

[@bikesandfamily3082]

Where r u from nz?

[@kiwimon3204]

Willie 25 VanuSa. Hey bro I'm from NZ Aucks. If u after a thunder or ultra in NZ. Go to electricscootershop.co.nz. Ask for Jonno. Im thinking bout getting either the thunder or ultra. Hard to decide??

[@bikesandfamily3082]

@@kiwimon3204 thunder is better

[@bikesandfamily3082]

Got oxo already. Gettinf thunder nxtweeek

[@ande24392]

Was interesting watching the fog roll in during the video

[@SuperGiantGeckosLLC]

That was just them blazing

[@BlueShadow777]

Love them!!! Just so disappointing about the throttle control. As an experienced motorcyclist, why oh WHY isn’t there available - at least the option of - a twist-grip throttle???

[@GingerOnWheels]

The Ninebot Es4 has twist throttle . But only goes 20mph!

[@BlueShadow777]

@@GingerOnWheels Hmmm... That's useless, then.

[@crotalus_4203]

Because when you hit the throttle on a scooter it pushes you back really hard, which in turn could cause you to accidentally twist the throttle harder if there was a twist throttle. It's a safety thing.

[@betopelotaz1]

why did you not include the ultra?

[@flatearthlife]

Put my name on a Thunder please. Will be purchasing one from you in June. Dualtron fanboy here.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Hahaha Love it!

[@bscheffel]

Thunder is my choice too - looking forward to some nice long rides this spring/summer. My Uscooters Booster S2 Plus has been great ride around town and at 23lbs it goes everywhere - but the 13 mile range is too limiting. As soon as the weather here in nyc gets a bit better I’m in.

[@guillermopacheco5005]

Love my Spider Limited , use it for commuting on Bart and last miles to work and home. Nothing can touch it for my situation

[@Eckoolt]

Do you have any problems with it?

[@guillermopacheco5005]

@@Eckoolt no it’s amazing

[@Eckoolt]

@@guillermopacheco5005 Hmm, Im thinking about buying it, but some people sais Eagle pro is better

[@guillermopacheco5005]

@@Eckoolt main reason I chose the Spider is weight , it’s barely 20kg. Eagle pro is too heavy for me but if that’s not an issue then it doesn’t matter

[@Eckoolt]

@@guillermopacheco5005 I consider it because of weight too. How many km/miles you got on it? Had any flat tyres?

[@llkoolk420]

Do you guys sell key ignitions with voltage meter for the Dualtron?

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

We don't have any in stock sorry. The closest thing that we sell that locks the ignition is the fingerprint reader.

[@llkoolk420]

How much are the finger print scanners? I have the Dualtron 2.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

@@llkoolk420 $125 available on our website: www.minimotorsusa.com. You would have to have the EYE display which can be seen 35 seconds into this video.

[@DayWalk3rs]

Does it have usb connection?

[@tysonprice]

what is that sound it makes when you start out it sounds like it is stripped?

[@macswanton9622]

wheel spinout

[@JustAnotherReviewwithAlek]

Are these scooter”thunder” available in Australia

[@lifeistooshortletitgo9574]

Abs on cable brakes?

[@lifeistooshortletitgo9574]

These guys literally have no idea wtf they are talking about from a technical stand point.

[@RoamingInterests]

I think you add to the comparison the dualtron raptor. That one is smaller but has more battery than spider, and is cheaper.

[@darcyleepearson4416]

Good vid! , I'm after replacement parts for the centre console and stem lights...are they available? UK dealers don't want to reply!? X

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Thanks. We have those parts in stock. Send us over an email and we'll see if it's feasible to send them to you. [e-mail]

[@mbarbe007]

I know that you can’t freeway, highway drive a scooter... BUT can you drive them on the street without insurance and MVD registration in the USA??? If so I’m in!

[@robertluong4652]

E-scooters do not need to be registered in California. You don't need a license plate or insurance either.However you will need a driver's license since these are powerful enough to be street legal. I recommend insurance for safety. I was in the ER without health insurance and the bill was extreme.

[@jayeshpatel838]

Does anyone have any reviews (anything at all) on the Dualtron Compact?

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Not yet. With the production of the X, things have been pushed back. Keep your ears on and we'll update you with any news that we receive.

[@tescopiwo]

Buying the thunder next month, too cold right now

[@bikesandfamily3082]

Hi is the stem adjustable to smaller people?

[@princedemiterios2488]

wonderful neat work , Do you ship to Lebanon ?

[@QBL11104]

Are they waterproof ?

[@sammyfuentes2561]

How can I get the best one the thunder

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

You order one from minimotorsusa.com. We have them in stock and shipping orders the same day they are placed.

[@tallswede80]

@@MiniMotorsUSA I've heard that it is a piece of shit and has lots of problems. How can you get it serviced under warranty?

[@raysonrodriguez7215]

Am interested dualtron compact.. one of the only products you haven't done a review on

[@winstonthomas6161]

Where can I get this scooter. And how much for each one?

[@SimonCU]

You forgot to tell us the most important info!!! The price!!!

[@zcratz]

SiSiSiUSA, the price at Amazon is almost $4k. 😂

[@ezscootrr]

@IngeniousFirefly and no gas.

[@Eckoolt]

@@ezscootrr And no insurance, registration.

[@ezscootrr]

@@Eckoolt for now. I'm sure it will be regulated soon.

[@BellAir777]

Who cares about the price. Look at the size of the Tiire. Do you know how many bitches you going to be able to get?

[@sorryociffer]

Very cool and fun looking but the cost is unreal. I can buy a really nice motorcycle for that money...

[@nobel1840]

Love them all! I am about to buy Dualtron Spider or Dualtron 3...? Hard decision. Any Recommends from personal experience will be usefull.thanks.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

The Spider is a better solution if you are after a lighter scooter. It is easy to pick up and throw in the trunk of your car. The 3 is bigger and heavier. It has more torque and rides smoother because of the added weight. If you are looking for more of a sporty ride then get the Dualtron 3, if you are looking at primarily a last mile solution then get the Spider. Both are great options.

[@nobel1840]

MiniMotors USA I will go for Spider.a dealer near me sell it. In a couple hours I will purchase that little monster. You are right. I don’t want a heavy scooter! They are both a good quality product and amazing scooters. But for my needs Spider is more-more than fine! Ride always safe. thank you @Minimotors 🙏

[@mrmartinbusek]

Got my Spider today! Going to unbox it now!

[@nobel1840]

MiniMotors USA Finally I bought Dualtron 3 instead of Spider . I love it. Experience! Dualtron ! The king of electric scooters.

[@nealjackman9864]

Thanks for a real look at these models .more vid on maintanance/tuning ? AND a review on the X !!

[@p2p0]

Do you ship to South America?

[@aronsemana9565]

Hi nice content, where can I buy this dualtron thunder? And how much? Thanks waiting

[@MannyG001]

IVe had so many issues with a dualtron 2 ex within 3 months time. It's not even funny...I'm hoping the one I bought was crap and if I invest another 2k it will actually be reliable.

[@jasontomica8938]

What do u mean issues what kind explain, the dualtron are very reliable

[@MannyG001]

From the moment I had a flat on my back tire , the horrors of it never stopped. In the month of June itself I had over 7 flats(back tire-tube). It got to a point where I would just ride it flat(low speed) to my destination. 2ndly, for God sakes the tools...dualtron never warned me that you would pretty much have to get 18mm wrench custom cut on the ring side to take the tires off. 3rd, my BMS went in July(I bought it in April) took a month off from the frustration....finally fixed it, the new battery appeared to be rejected...caught a short(won't turn on) & wheels began to lock . So idk man, I really don't want a turbo lightning, I would prefer to just rock the summer out with a dualtron 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jasontomica8938]

@@MannyG001 who did u buy the scooter from, I dont think u bought from minimotors, they take care of their customers. Also the new dualtrons have tubeless tires.

[@jasontomica8938]

@@MannyG001 also u have a 6 month warranty and 1 year on battery

[@jasontomica8938]

@@MannyG001 tubeless tires are the way of the future for high end electric scooters!!

[@Antonio-ku4up]

Can’t wait to get mines

[@suineg1]

Can you completely turn off ABS ?

[@csabas46]

Yes!

[@suineg1]

@@csabas46 Thanks for the info!

[@danpandapotan]

Can I use this while raining ?

[@richterbelmont3903]

What brand is your helmet? Looks durable..

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

TSG

[@adamlv1]

There are many situations that weight of your scooter is going to make a huge difference. No matter what you will need to lift the entire scooter’s weight off the ground to get these into a trunk or up a flight of stairs. However, I have been manipulating these heavy scooters for a couple years now and if you have good hydraulic brakes then you can lightly pull the right brake lever to lock the front brake and you can just push forward and lift the rear of the scooter off the ground. If I am trying to get my scooter onto the bus or up onto a curb then I would just lock the front brake and lift the rear of the scooter and swing it around up onto the curb. Then pull the left brake handle and pull back and lift the front of the scooter and just swing it up onto the curb and you don’t have to lift anything. Even if I am putting my scooter into the car, I will lock the rear brake and lift the front of the scooter as far as I need. If I can lift the front tire over the lip of the trunk or into the back seat, which is probably around 2.5 feet into the air or so, the I can get the scooter in without much muscle at all. There is also these great little rubber coated copper wire things that Home Depot sells which people use to cinch down loads or hold tarps in place. They are really great. You basically can wrap them around something and then twist it a few times and it will hold something really tight. These are a must have for scooters. I put a drink holder on my scooter but you know how those rough rides are. I always lost the lid or the entire drink pops out on me. With those wraps I can just wrap it around my drink, it takes 5 seconds to wrap it and twist a few times and the drink is securely fastened and will not go anywhere. So I actually use them to wrap up anything that I add or hold on the scooter and it will stay firmly and secure in place. But by far the biggest thing I use these wrap tie downs for is on public transportation the scooter will have a tendency to roll on you so you have to keep both hands on it. If you use these tie downs to pull the a brake lever down and fasten it securely to the handle the scooter will be so tightly locked into place you can just leave it sitting there with the kickstand down and it won’t roll. I don’t advise using this method with just mechanical brakes because you have to pull the brakes much harder to get the same stopping power, but you will still get a lot of advantages. When I found these tie downs I couldn’t believe I had tried to ride any scooter without them before. They are perfect for scooters.

[@jayrider3754]

Love this video, I've a dt3, and recently bought a kaabo wolf warrior (almost the same thing than the Thunder) I made a small video to compare dualtron Thunder To Kaabo wolf warrior (you can see it on my channel) - thunder is fastest on the 60 first feet - kaabo has better suspension - Kaabo is 46kg, but the weight is the front of the scooter, which is not good when you have to lift it - I reached 53 mph on the Kaabo (42 mph on my dt3) (I will do a bigger comparaison on youtube btw Thunder, DT3 and Kaabo when the weather will let us do...)

[@jeroencuypers2703]

i bought my thunder 1 month ago (the first one), im verry happy about it ! it go's really fast if needed and battery last long if driving on speed 1 at 30/35 km/h(18.5/22mph) . when going 60/70 km/h(37/43.5mph) the battery runs out alot faster. Driving at speed 60km/h(37mph) stil feels save, but at 80/85 km/h(50/53mph) you can get speed wobbels, witch i found verry dangereus. i recomend a top speed of 70km/h(43.5mph)

[@tallswede80]

what if I am 2 meters and 260 pounds?

[@phdyoutubedegree1939]

Nice Scooter with a hell of a price tag. $2700-$3800. You also have another on your site for $6000 with a seat..

[@bradg2804]

Im buying the thunder next week

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Sweet! Let us know if you need any help with the purchase.

[@danielwillet9924]

Plz tell me how it is

[@danielwillet9924]

Speed an all in miles per hour thanks

[@danielwillet9924]

For the thunder I weight about 125

[@turtlepowersf]

@@MiniMotorsUSA Do you guys have a showroom in SF? is it Last Mile SF?

[@jpoorr9973]

waiting on my ultra👍 it should be here by the end of the week. Personally I think mini motors needs to chill out with all the disco lights. Personally I think there should be only two color lights on a scooter red and white. Instead of spending money on all those disco lights they need to invest that into a high-quality multi-function thousand plus lumens headlight and integrated multi-function tail light in the fender. maybe have a button were you can change it from solid red to different strobe settings.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

The LED lights going up the side are REALLY inexpensive. You can turn them a solid color from the remote or you can turn them off. The four headlights on the thunder are actually pretty bright, but if you do want something to really light up the road then I would suggest getting the upper kiddy bar and mounting some serious lights. The Thunder is a much better scooter than the Ultra. Dual Hydraulic Brakes, Folding Handlebars, Updated EYE display, tubeless tires, and adjustable suspension cartridges make the Thunder incredible. Not that the Ultra isn't a great machine, it definitely is, however I think it's probably worth the upgrade.

[@jpoorr9973]

@@MiniMotorsUSA yeah hydraulic brakes have better stopping power then mechanical. Mechanical disc brakes are easier to adjust on the Fly and don't have to be bled like hydraulic. Tubeless tires are great especially for people who don't check the air pressure before every ride. If you get a puncture you can plug it temporarily but eventually the tire has to come off and be patched from the inside. I don't think you want to be going 50 miles an hour with plugs in your tires. Plus the Thunder is 10 pounds heavier with the same performance specs as the ultra. If you really want all those upgrades and think they're necessary then yeah the Thunder would be worth the extra 500 dollars. But for me I don't need all that. I own a Speedway 4 not the mini. I've had it for around six months and have put over 900 miles on it. I literally got my first flat about a week ago. I inspect my scooter from top to bottom after every ride. And check the tire pressure to make sure it's 50 psi before every ride. I have pulled Staples and pieces of glass out of their rear tire. But luckily I got them out before they did any real damage to the tire or puncture the tube. It comes down to how you ride your scooter and maintain it.

[@raynellholmes1011]

I do believe the "Disco lights" are more about visibility to other motorist and pedestrians than about appeal.

[@Tchairdjian]

No mention of prices and shipping to Canada?

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Give us a buzz at 415-938-6457 or by email at [e-mail] and we can figure out what we can do for you.

[@b.g.theprinceofrp.3906]

In Israel this illegal, because in iarsel it is allowed to ride a scooter up to 25 / km / h

[@Eckoolt]

In Europe is the same, but people ride it faster

[@b.g.theprinceofrp.3906]

@@Eckoolt People turn off the limit in the controller, I know. And have problem with police.

[@Retronyx]

@@Eckoolt we had Dualtron Ultra in Singapore that can hit 150km/hr

[@jasontomica8938]

@@Retronyx no way impossible

[@jasontomica8938]

@@Retronyx video or lie

[@ThomasFunnyCarGuy]

The weird part about this video is where you are is probably the worst place for an electric scooter lol. In the mountains like that I'm definitely using a dirt bike. I do have a question though I'm seeing complaints about the play in the handlebars due to the bottom of the steering column not being super secure. What say you!?! Re :thunder

[@rhyansimmons2691]

He is there because these scooters are designed for that environment. They are not as good as dirt bikes off road but that is why they are more fun.

[@vanstandardscooters8637]

Beefy! Definitely nice scooters.

[@motogp2375]

I want the THUNDER but its way out of my budget. I can do D3 though 😂 Boi i want a ride this thing fast! 🤙🏼

[@hymlog]

....THE PRICE IS "TOP-SECRET" ...ON A NEED TO KNOW BASES! ...DON'T ASK!!

[@edgardoorozco7940]

Cuál de los tres tiene el piso más ancho

[@deniskhorovodov7176]

El Thunder, luego va el 3 y luego el Spider (mas angosto)

[@angelical791]

Thunder

[@ienjoysandwiches]

Beautiful where are you I want to go there

[@brandonnicholas123]

I bought a Thunder from these guys, it is awesome and super fun to drive around. I’m going to buy another scooter for my girlfriend, and she thinks the Thunder is a bit big, so I was deciding between the 3 and the Spider. I’ll probably go with the 3.

[@ienjoysandwiches]

Nanrobot ls7?

[@theMekanik]

If these exist why do we still have a public transit system 🤔

[@delbomb3131]

Because people who need to use public transportation usually don't have a grand laying around

[@theMekanik]

delbomb3131 Get rid of public transportation. I am sure everyone that gets up and goes to work to maintain the infrastructure public transport infrastructure everyday is far more costly than using Electric Scooters 🛴 There is obviously enough money laying around to keep public transport in operation. Get rid of that and there is all the money you are looking for, not to mention materials to build scooters.

[@delbomb3131]

@@theMekanik soooo get rid of public transport and use that money to buy scooters? Then scooters will be public transport lol... Also what about places like Tokyo where public transport is literally amazing

[@theMekanik]

delbomb3131 Never been to Tokyo, they are are always like 20 years ahead of every one. Yes Public Transport should be Scooter, or Teleportation like Star Trek 🤩 Still waiting for the Jet Packs.or a good pair of hiking shoes 😎 That way there is not a big fkn bus driveling around burning resources with no one in them. Get rid of physical Banks and arms while we are at it. Make cell phones instead.

[@delbomb3131]

@@theMekanik I agree if no one is in em they shouldn't run if they're going to burn fossil fuels. Though there's a small island to the south of mainland Japan that is using hydrogen busses now, but there's never an empty bus either. That's why public transport evolves over there, they use it religiously. So if you're wanting to get rid of physical banks, you must be in favor of getting rid of physical cash too then right? Do you understand the downsides that come with that? Do you know why banks and executives are pushing for this?

[@jay6817]

50 mph. Flu^k*^n hell. I used to have a 1000w one, and gee they've come a long way in this category. Sturdy big scooters.

[@Gragon]

tell the factory to do proper hidro isolation

[@Eckoolt]

What is that?

[@SebastianPappG]

@@Eckoolt isolation vs water lol.

[@grahamrichardson1623]

The dualtorn thunder is priced at £3100

[@abedin1]

too much speed, maximum allowed speed here in Norway is 20 km/h +/- 10%. I think the range is more important in the city than the speed

[@omarpiane2379]

Z. Ghaffar i live in Norway too, and is so difficult to find legally approved scooters. Not much choice. I need something legal but that can climb steep hills .. I was considering the e-wheel E2S V2, but I don’t know if it can drag my 85kg uphill. any suggestion on a decent legal model that I can buy in Norway? Thanks

[@mohamedlalouani4188]

Congratulation for create Channel minimotors usa, i from to Paris i have raptor , i give you force

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Returning the Force! Thanks!

[@arr856]

😎 Love it got one

[@themystx2]

I disagree that the Spider hits 40 MPH on flat ground. I own and GPS logged this scooter multiple times on flat ground and it’s top speed is about 35-36 MPH. It loses top speed significantly as the battery drops below 50-60%. Perhaps the LCD could show 40 MPH but it reads fast. I weigh 177 lbs so that shouldn’t be a factor as your rider weighs more than I do. That doesn’t detract from what the Spider is, a very agile and quick scooter with usable range that weighs 44 lbs. There is absolutely no comparison in that weight class.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

Noted, we'll get out there with a speed gun and get back to you. Yes we were going off of the display reading which may have been reading a little hot, but 35 still feels crazy fast on a scooter.

[@climax9499]

Fantastic. I have a hybrid. A dualtron 2s frame with dualtron thunder Controllers and dualtron Spider motors. Weight is 44LBS as well but man the acceleration. Top speed is around 65km/h no thanks to the slow spider motors. Looking forward for magnesium spider motors in the speed version!

[@richardaguirre2058]

@@climax9499 which battery are you using?

[@climax9499]

Richard Aguirre battery is a custom 60v18ah Samsung 30q which can support up to 90amp

[@theociba2781]

Great overview. I spoke with John this week regarding the mini pro - very knowledgeable. BTW, what is the helmet make/model? It seems lighter than the typical motorcycle version, and more transportable.

[@Eckoolt]

You mesn Speedway mini 4 pro?

[@bradg2804]

1 question does the thunder and dualtron ultra have regenerative brake? I would like to use mostly regen brake does it have a setting for that?

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

There is motor braking that does regenerate. There is a setting on the EYE display (PA). 0-5 Set at 0 there is no motor brake and no regen. If you max it up to 5 it's full regen but a little tough to get used to the hard motor brake. We like that set at 2 at the most. Don't get the Ultra, it's outdated. The Thunder is better in pretty much every regard.

[@bradg2804]

@@MiniMotorsUSA i am getting the thunder for myself and was thinking the ultra for my wife later on.

[@MiniMotorsUSA]

@@bradg2804 Powerwise the Thunder and Ultra are pretty similar, however the Thunder will be way smoother and safer (better hydraulic brakes etc...) Unless she is really experienced on a motorcycle you might want to set her up on the Spider (or a 3 if she wants more torque)

[@EvilSpeculator]

DualTron for the win as usual. Hey where did you guys film this? Looks like somewhere in California.

[@theMekanik]

I will take the thunder please thank you 😂🤣

[@slug182]

Can someone please do something about USA units measurements? Pounds, Miles per hour, wtf everytime I have to keep converting units to have a sense of things. Come on all the countries uses metric system for fuck sake

[@wallis34]

great video...thanks for the info.

[@BeSafe20]

NICE

[@andriisev]

nice

[@flashburt6765]

I live in europe, where can I buy the fastest scooter? and how much does it cost?