Minister Caller | Atheist Experience 340

[@jeffreyballinger133]

"You speak out of ignorance." Said the preacher who wears ignorance like a badge of honor.

[@ArcherMVMaster]

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[@richardandis3227]

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[@guybrush1701]

Right?!?! This guy knew Jack shit about the Bible. Should be ASHAMED to call himself a minister.

[@chrisneu5133]

God loves you so much, he created hell in case you don't love him back.

[@augusthome9860]

Typical minister, when losing the argument bring out the threat of hell. These hideous so-called preachers shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children.

[@tjw9985]

Or anyone else.

[@jessicahope9744]

They groom children like pedophiles.

[@veronicats100]

So called preachers? Anyone that calls themselves a preacher is a hideous person. Get real.

[@steevrawjers]

August Home I am in 100 percent agreement on that

[@steevrawjers]

TJ W lol

[@steveyuhas9278]

Jeff dee, still my favorite host. He's got the quickest mind and least patience for bullshit. I wish he would come back on the show as a guest.

[@andreafitzgerald4609]

40 Rosemarys?????? :)

[@jeffreyp1855]

@@MadMax-gc2vj , why did they quit?

[@MadMax-gc2vj]

@@jeffreyp1855 Had to do with Matt some how ,huge inner fighting.

[@cliffc2937]

@@MadMax-gc2vj eh, I thought Jeff quit before that drama?

[@lukasrodriguez5864]

@@MadMax-gc2vj I think Jeff move way before that to some other support program similar to FFR

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

I whole heartily agree, more people should read the bible! That's how atheists multiply. lol

[@TheGrungy1]

@Englebert Humperdink it just means i believe. So you're good

[@brethager3265]

I agree, of course without cherry-picking it like they love to do.

[@silverwings2493]

When you have twisted atheist thinkers, what do you expect.

[@silverwings2493]

@Alfalfa Jones I don't expect that at all. Atheists say there is nothing after this life. It's too bad that those who have departed this life cannot come back here and tell us heaven and hell are real. You are going to tell me none of that is real. I would not want to believe you reject the truth die and find out for myself that you were wrong in the first place. But you can reject all of it because you do have a free will. As I do.

[@silverwings2493]

@@brethager3265 straight men normal men do a lot of cherry pickn too.😛😜

[@vinrohm5627]

"Science says sleep is a stage of death" No, it doesn't. Stop pretending that what you imagine is science.

[@JerryPenna]

Vin Rohm I think he conflating stage of death and stages of consciousness in a biological sense. In physiology we put rats under anesthesia and there are several stages of consciousness. For surgery you are at the stage closest to death. Sleep isn’t close to death.

[@myaknirufesco-ryckexgajithov]

I'll accept sleeping is death if life is death also

[@kevinsundelin8639]

The only person I've heard say anything even related to that was a friend of mine making a joke saying that "Sleep is the demo version of death." I have possibly heard it in explanations of what death could be like to people who are afraid of dying as in that it will be the same way as before you were born or as if you were having a dreamless night of sleep. But never have I heard any scientist, or anyone else call it a stage of death

[@mtnbiker014]

David Pearson Patently false. I’m guessing you believe in flat earth too.

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

@@davidohara7669 LEAST ACTIVE IN RELIGION ! ...............

[@paulhadlington8179]

These preachers teach kids WHAT to think. Not HOW to think. Personally it disgusts me too.

[@notapplicable6985]

@j l What god do you believe? And what convinced you?

[@notapplicable6985]

@j l Then what made the creator?

[@notapplicable6985]

@j l Ok, I mistook you for a YEC when you mentioned 6,000 years, my bad.

[@Joullele9]

@j l Since you base your belief in the fact that nothing could just spit out a creator. Is there a creator of a creator of a creator since I don't see an end when I think about it in the way that no thing could come out of nothing. Just out of curiosity

[@birdmeister5976]

Haven Thompson You, sir, are absolutely pathetic. Even your first name belies your parents’ belief in a ridiculous fairy tale. You grew up in a household where your fairy tale trumped the findings of science and of of common sense. I pity you Heaven, er.. I mean Haven, of course.

[@Jasagacious]

“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” ― Isaac Asimov

[@kirklarson4536]

"The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read cover to cover." Don't remember who said it, but I like it.

[@axelrobb5975]

@@kirklarson4536 It was Andrew L. Seidel

[@johnf536]

If you don’t want to read the Bible, listen to The Friendly Atheist read Everything Wrong in the Bible , every Sunday.

[@davidsmith7653]

As an eight year old reading the bible for the first time it took me less than a page to realise it was all nonsense. I've been an atheist ever since.

[@gregjones2217]

Science seeks to explain the universe, from the smallest to the largest. Much is still not understood, and misconceptions occur. Science makes adaptations and

[@derwolf9670]

I am always amazed when Christians accuse people of being ignorant

[@starfishsystems]

What they tend to mean is "read more Bible verses" (and ignore those pesky science texts.) The reasoning seems to be that somehow a larger quantity of nonsense will be more convincing than a representative sample. That's a bit like multiplying a large number of questionable probabilities together in the expectation that the result will converge to p=1.

[@seasonedbeefs]

Gas lighting and projection. The art of manipulation.

[@trafficjon400]

Evidently

[@edluckenbill9382]

Assignment . Lol.

[@drzaius844]

Because you forgot the 40 rosemaries.

[@calliebriggs9021]

My grandma forced religion on me since I was little I'm 33 now and am totally traumatized thanks grandma sicko I'm glad I set my self free by watching atheist experience thanks

[@_-AB-_]

Maybe, she thought that it would help you the best, or maybe, that's all she knew (she too had this shoved in her mind when she was little). Don't be so hard on her, maybe she didn't force religion on you the way it was forced on her. Too many maybes, but I bet you were her little sweetheart.

[@michellebrown4903]

@@_-AB-_ l bet you don't recognize child abuse . Why do people continually make excuses for these people?

[@_-AB-_]

@@michellebrown4903 yeah, I don't know how to handle most of issues, I just walk away (although, I do try to ensure that it doesn't affect anyone else other than me). Point I was trying to make is that improvement is not digital, it's analogue. Callie would mess up some stuff as well, it's inevitable. But the messes would be far less severe than those of her grandparents. On average, the quality of life and understanding of reality is improves every generation. I just assume that her grandparents did better than earlier generations.

[@pavel9652]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@_-AB-_]

@@pavel9652 Stupidity knows no bound. Edit: my comment is meaningless, just like yours. I wrote it to illustrate it. And I bet that this edit was required to ensure that you get it.

[@324wonder]

I was a christian. I read the whole bible....now I'm an agnostic. That bible really helped me a lot.

[@24magiccarrot]

@ci rob The people that were Christians and stop believing in God after reading the bible are not dishonest if they then claim to be atheist or agnostic, even if the bible is the only scripture they have ever read. By definiion an atheist is a person that doesn't believe in a God, and an Agnostic is a person that doesn't know there is a God. So if a Christians stops believing in the God of the bible and doesn't accept belief in any other God regardless of what studying they have done that person is without a belief in God, therefore by definition is an Atheist, and if that person also claims that they don't know that there is another God that person is also by definition an Agnostic. Just because an atheist hasn't studied every God claim doesn't make them dishonest, it would take more than one lifetime to read up on every God claim, but as long as you presently don't believe in any of them you are an Atheist. Richard Dawkins put it best when he said that Christians are also Atheist, just people that identify as atheists believe in one God less than you do. You can trasnfer various Gods into the Christian part of that statement, Atheists believe in one God less than Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and about 3million gods less than all Hindus. That being said that doesn't mean that an atheist is claiming that there is no God or Gods, just simply means they don't believe in any God that has been presented to them.

[@324wonder]

@ci rob ...did you see what I said ? I grew up with a Methodist family. My father was a minister. He he told me to read the bible. I decided that I would read one chapter in the old testament and the new testament everyday in the morning. It was habitual. I prayed before the reading everyday for wisdom. After the many years I read the bible over and over. Then I got. It was a man made story. And when I started reading about astrotheology...that was the icing on the cake. I did not come up with a quick conclusion about the bible. I looked for truth...and I found it. And now I'm free. Like I said... that bible really helped me a lot.

[@scottblack8266]

24magiccarrot Good words but I cwould add that one could be a gnostic theist , gnostic atheist , agnostic theist or agnostic atheist . Two of these examples relate too belief and the others have to do with claims of knowledge . For example I can believe a god exists without claiming to know . Get it ? Thanks

[@24magiccarrot]

@@scottblack8266 I didn't want to make my post too long by going into detail of every possible combination, I merely wanted to establish that just because someone stopped believing in one God, doesn't make them dishonest if they identify with the label that most closely reflects their current belief. Regarding Gnostic when it comes to Theist/Atheist I would highlight that this is claimed knowledge rather than any actual demonstrable justifiable knowledge. When I was a Christian I would claim that I knew there was a God, but looking back I now know that I had no cause to be so zealous in my position. And I would never hold the position that I know there is no God.

[@scottblack8266]

24magiccarrot That’s fine , I figured you understood the concept I was referencing , but so many people don’t . I was just trying to clarify sub categories . I am agnostic atheist , like you I wouldn’t claim I knew if any gods exist however , I have no reason to think they do .

[@vinrohm5627]

"Revelation describes the modern day" They've been saying that since the 5th century.

[@supernovel7514]

Yeah that's a huge thing that's preventing Christianity and most other religions from being killed off. Whenever you try to disprove them or if your country promotes secular values than they say it's the end times and get even more extreme

[@kentonbaird878]

And they will KEEP on saying it until the very natural end of the universe itself, if that day ever comes, if humans are even around to witness it.

[@musiqal333]

Yep. Christianity shifts the goalposts all the time. That's why it's still believed today because prophecies are vague as fuck anyway and people can do reinterpretation after x or y fact.

[@Shadowchild695]

THE END IS NIGH!!!!!!!! REPENT WHILE YOU CAN FOUL HEATHEN !!111!1!

[@zacharyherron7829]

Yeah and they keep moving that goal post to say “well the end of days could be a week or thousands of years, time means nothing to god, blah blah”. Arguing with them gets you nowhere when they can just use magic to grant their position with special rules.

[@robertchflynn]

Jeff's "How dare you" rants are sorely missed...

[@donbacker9883]

Absolutey.

[@ericmishima]

Just came by for a Jeff fix ;)

[@kentonbaird878]

Sometimes you want a reasoned, clever, even-handed debate. Sometimes you want the ear-candy that is Jeff Dee ripping into some poor, unprepared schmuck.

[@denbecr49]

His "How dare you" strikes me as shamelessly stolen from Christopher Hitchens. I cringed at how 'over the top' it felt when Hitchens laid it on a questioner from the audience after a debate. I didn't think his target deserved it in that particular case even though I often agree with his brutal no-holds-barred rebukes.

[@alasanoei]

Now I know where Greta got that from...😂

[@Ristofec]

“But you’re not understanding” “See you’re not understanding” “No, you aren’t understanding” They should have hung up on this child 3 minutes into the call. Minister my ass.

[@pidayrocks2235]

Why do you find it surprising he’d be a minister? You don’t think ministers are typically this dishonest? They disguise nonsense in flowery language for a living for goodness sake, just going off of what “feels rights” to them and spreading that feeling as though it’s fact coming from an authority. It will never be surprising to me to see a guy like this be a minister.

[@lastofusclips5291]

good for jeff dee. this guy really needed to be put in his place. called him out for his smugness and nonsense.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Condescension: an attitude of patronizing superiority; disdain. Its a mistake to try this on Jeff. He will happily walk all over you and laugh while doing it. Its his favorite game.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The caller is superior because he has "faith" and Jeff and Ashley only have critical thinking which is human, and therefore not of God.

[@WHIRLWOLF]

@@JamesRichardWiley Nopes

[@naomiandtommccabe]

I wonder how this person would feel if they were accused of a crime and the prosecutor said to the judge, “I have no evidence but I really believe he did it.” And the judge goes, “That’s good enough for me. Guilty!”

[@lightbeforethetunnel]

That's the rationale that atheists use, as for why they affirm any particular non-theistic worldview is true. Christians, on the other hand, have a deductive justification / proof that the Christian worldview is necessarily true. It's called Presuppositionalism

[@tonydarcy1606]

The minister's final shot was the threat of the fiery lake. No wonder Jeff got so upset !

[@dondavis6293]

Tony D'Arcy... Absolutely! Jeff has even said that’s his favorite hobby-horse... Threats of hell definitely trigger Jeff... He puts believers in their place when the subject is brought up. Miss Jeff a lot... Definitely one of the best and most logical hosts...

[@DaviesMartinezBeats]

Yep Tony, it's Jeff's trigger, it's his personal fatwa, he owns that jihad subject of hell fire!

[@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301]

I got my certificate today!

[@AlejandroGarcia-bh3gx]

He got upset when the minister says that he doesn't understand Christianity twice haha

[@seanjones2456]

I am so glad jeff dee was on this show! This moron went to threats and Mr Dee wasn't having any of it! Ha ha

[@charleynewman5057]

"HOW DARE YOU!" You gotta love when Jeff get's pissed off.

[@klutterkicker]

"You're telling me there's going to be a four-headed dragon rampaging around." "Not a dragon, a beast." LMFAO

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

Not a dragon, a Karen.

[@waukivorycopse2402]

Well, thank goodness he quantified that.

[@JayJay-two]

Mwahahahahaha. Laffed my head off. Wat a moron. 😂😂😂😂

[@Frankya92]

Not a dragon, a beast 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ well thank you for clarifying. LIKE IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE

[@vinrohm5627]

"Speaking out of ignorance" Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Faith, a belief that is strongly held without the benefit of knowledge of facts and evidence, is the very definition of ignorance.

[@rockysandman5489]

Inaccurate. Faith isn't so much a definition of ignorance, it is rather instead a *result* of ignorance.

[@jeremias-serus]

@@rockysandman5489 You are mistaken. OP did not say that faith was a synonym of ignorance, he said that if you hold faith in something you are ignorant. Which is true.

[@rockysandman5489]

@@jeremias-serus Direct quote from the OP's comment: "Faith, a belief that is strongly held without the benefit of knowledge of facts and evidence, is the very definition of ignorance." I didn't argue that it's not a synonym of ignorance, I argued that it's not so much a definition of ignorance, which is what the OP said. I continued by saying that it is a result of ignorance, rather than the definition of it. Learn to read, ffs.

[@dylanjones268]

@@jeremias-serus So, I really hate your name.. made me think my video card was fucked up.

[@seasonedbeefs]

Faith, a piss poor excuse for evidence

[@tharealist824]

I was indoctrinated as a southern Baptist my entire life until I was around 20. The hardest part of researching and finding the truth was I was genuinely terrified of going to hell... I'm 35 now and i can say it took me a long time to get over that. I still deal with it from time to time even though I don't believe in it at all. That is how deeply ingrained in me it was... I will NEVER do that to my children. Teach them to them to think for themselves. Religion is terrible for people and society.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

Yes, christianity, the most evil, fear based religion in the world.

[@AndrewJam-vv9xw]

You’re not alone brother!

[@SillyChickens222]

Exactly. I would never want to teach my child they’re inherently evil and bad

[@CronoXpono]

@@SillyChickens222My family won’t try me with weird shit because I warned them; if we talk about religion, I’ll go full force. 😂

[@nicholasmiller2172]

He starts the call with I’m a minister/preacher, admits he’s not an expert/experienced in biblical lore, admits most atheists he interacts with know HIS material better than he does AS A LEADER, then devolves into alternating states of pleadingly exclaiming they just haven’t had his personal experience (which he admits he personally has never had) and condescending insults that THEY haven’t done enough research into his mythology, all the while insisting with zero research his beliefs make the MOST nonsense...yup, this is the basic-off-the-assembly-line Christian...Jesus Christ 🥁

[@ps123fan]

well i wont lie to you i thought i saw a vision of jesus once, he even spoke to me, no lie and i was an atheist and am an atheist back then, maybe it was just a hallucination though

[@localbod]

Listening to a man ( minister ) arguing for his job. Any organised religion is a business.

[@geraldodonnell2595]

Ya, a "business" that does NOT pay taxes.

[@nfrick1]

A business that sell a product that does not exist, do not deliver and blame the consumer. And do not pay taxes.

[@katyungodly]

It's a scam and a pyramid scheme.

[@JayJay-two]

A con business. 😄😄😄

[@stevenhogenson4880]

Really digging into the Bible was the beginning of my transition to atheism. Truth for a LOT of former believers.

[@luannsunsdahl2946]

Oh my...that was painful!...and he's teaching, not only adults, but kids of his congregation...so scary!!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

America is circling the drain. Our only hope is KZbin atheist videos.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Jeff needs to let the caller finish his sentences before blasting him with "the facts". Too much aggression.

[@kentonbaird878]

And remember: those children and adults will soon vote :D

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Helt enkelt SVINAKTIGT ! ..........................

[@theric66]

Viva us fucking of a.

[@revvsstrength6269]

Lol I just love how Jeff Dee doesn’t let nonsense slide for a second 🤣‼️

[@nathanielyates6347]

@@arachnipope God is great

[@canwelook]

Jeff was on fire!!!

[@JB-zd8gv]

​@@nathanielyates6347great how?

[@jimappleby3545]

This 'minister' keeps saying: "No, no, you don't understand what I'm saying." The problem is the hosts understand perfectly well what he's saying - which is more than he does. Finally he says: "No, no, the problem is you are speaking out of ignorance." Which is pretty good from someone who keeps referring to 'the Barble', while simultaneously demonstrating that he barely knows the first thing about it.

[@MacLaw3084]

Ashley was an underrated host. and Jeff Dee was amazing of course. Jeff is now on "The Non-Prophets" show, I just found out. Thought I'd share for those of you that miss Jeff (i know there are many).

[@halthammerzeit]

I've learned southern "Biiible" accent by watching your videos, and I'm Polish. My family freaks out hearing me.

[@grimsoncrow]

I've learned the weird baby- talk english from these videos..."Te Baibbbull"

[@kenhammscousin4716]

I too am polish.

[@SuperFamiKing]

De buybull

[@thomasluczak2868]

I love what you said......Biiiible.....im polish /american. my grandparents were from Warsaw. nice talking to you ! by the way, Bet you formally were catholic ? me too.

[@TheNewPatsyBailey]

'My family freaks out hearing me' That's because you say things in your wonderful southern accent like 'God Almighty Jesus Lord Savior All Is Faith Creator Faith Gotta Have Faith Pray Pray But Science But Faith' Etc. ;) ;)

[@RainbowSixSneeze-0]

23:13 "You're telling me there's gonna be a four-headed dragon rampaging around the world?" "No, no, no, I did not say that." "Oh, sorry, was that the other guy?" "No, that was me, I said that." Lmao "Goodbye" 😂 *click* ☎️

[@tp230]

Give him a break, will you, it’s a four-headed beast, not a four-headed dragon, two different things completely.

[@stevenread5473]

"God only reveals himself to blessed people". Gee did you ever stop to think that these certain blessed people might be pulling your leg? Mike Pence and Ben Carson come to mind.

[@joecoolioness6399]

So once again, his god has chosen not to bless me, and not to reveal himself to me either, and now my soul gets to go to a place of eternal torture that his god created. Thank gob our justice system is NOT based on this kind of fairness and justice.

[@madamvaudelune3298]

Steven Read Don't confuse self-delusion with insincerity, most literalist Christians are very sincere,. I just don't understand how, in the absence of all reason, they can believe what they believe. Two college educated gentlemen, for sure, the only answer I can give is that this type of knowledge is compartmentalized. And we all do this to a certain extent, we don't see the faults in our loved ones or points of view many times because well, we just don't. Cognitive dissonance and compartmentalization are two different things, both dangerousl

[@_Somsnosa_]

I guess all the people killed and tortured in nazi concentration camps didn't pray hard enough or prayed to the wrong god.

[@bruceshand8052]

This minister hasn't heard of Pascal's Wager but he claims to have studied all religions to the conclusion that Christianity was the only "logical" one. Me thinks he prevaricates a bit.

[@starfishsystems]

Not only hadn't he heard of it - when it must surely be a mainstay of theological education - but he seemed unable to grasp the obvious problem of wagering on the right god. Perhaps there was so much deflection and muddled thinking that the point was lost. The caller seemed completely ready to believe that HIS choice was the only right one, because why exactly? Long on claims, conspicuously short on evidence.

[@nixxyhasthoughts]

He really claims he can assess all his claims to demonstrate Christianity is true. Bull shit.

[@nixxyhasthoughts]

@@starfishsystems oh but everyone was else was just ignorant and must not have read the Bible the right way.

[@orionred2489]

I laughed out loud at 31:00 when the guy said "you see, I have this thing called faith."

[@0x777]

Antibiotics should be able to take care of it, though.

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Cue Matt Dillahunty's rant about faith.... 3, 2, 1....

[@jimurban5367]

I love it! This one conversation showcases about 90% of all the talking points that continue to be rehashed over and over today in the online atheist communities. Yet at the same time, these two gentlemen are such a breath of fresh air.

[@donjacques1206]

I miss Jeff Dee.

[@staceylikesthelogicalthing8042]

IKR? Whatever happened to him?

[@IONAPINKMOXIE]

me too! :(

[@TheJimtanker]

I do too. I like the new generation from Talk Heathen though too.

[@24magiccarrot]

I agree, He left to go work on other projects, not sure what those projects were but Jeff Dee was brilliant at keeping the caller on one topic until the caller admitted they were wrong rather than jump around 3-4 different topics everytime the callers position was proven false.

[@buckeyebeezy829]

Me too, but he's not good for theist calls. He's super entertaining and he is also not wrong, but he isn't a good person for the purpose of AXP. Jeff Dee would be the best choice on Earth for a show called "Theist Slayer", but not AXP.

[@TumbleweedMK4]

This one did have a lot of shouting, but I get that because I think Jeff's anger was totally justified in this one lol

[@atomicrooster56]

A minister who has never heard of Pascal's Wager? Yeah right.

[@MrMZaccone]

It takes zero education to be a minister ... zero.

[@flashgordon6670]

@@MrMZaccone That must be why there are degrees in theology then.

[@flashgordon6670]

@@MrMZacconeJesus wasn't educated beyond carpentry and he was a minister. But he educated himself by reading the scriptures. The underpinning of the whole of western civilisation. It says in the Bible, that God uses the lowly things of this world to shame the great.

[@MrMZaccone]

@@flashgordon6670 There are degrees in everything you can name, including "liberal arts". That doesn't mean they're remotely useful. What percentage of employers are looking to hire graduates in theology? That would be basically nobody.

[@flashgordon6670]

@@MrMZaccone "What percentage of employers are looking to hire graduates in theology? That would be basically nobody." - basically nobody? By that you mean not nobody and that isn't a percentage. So you failed to answer, or even understand, your own idiot question. Well done for unwittingly defeating yourself and showing, what an incompetent schmuck you are. For the whole world to laugh at. I rest my case, Check mate primate, have a banana. Jesus 1 :0 Satan, read em weep sucker! Hallelujah! Amen.

[@cnault3244]

“Faith is something that you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe." ~~Archie Bunker

[@MrKErocks]

40 rosemaries... I just don't have the thyme! :^D

[@bluedragonfly8139]

I've got some thyme in a bottle!

[@voicemaestro]

My vote for winning comment, MrKErocks!

[@zaodedong9935]

🏆

[@docsavage30]

..And 5 our fritters.

[@kentonbaird878]

Sage advice.

[@davidsmith7653]

I've always found the bible to be very accurate, especially if thrown at close range.

[@AtheistAgainstChristianTerror]

LOL

[@waukivorycopse2402]

I measured the margins and spacing of verses on the bible pages, all within 40 thousandths of an inch of each other, amazing accracy.

[@dr.christopherdiaz4473]

I was raised Catholic. I still remember the catechism class when I was blown away that EVERYONE else in the room, including the adults, thought we were reading history. I was positive, from the very beginning, that these were parables or allegorical stories, not too dissimilar from Aesop's Fables.

[@Frankya92]

I had a similar realization too when I once told my dad that our Catholicism wasn’t the only Christian religion. His reaction was pure outrage. I was like, of course there’s other Christian sub-religions, how do you not acknowledge this? Religion is toxic poison

[@robertbryannall2580]

Here's a lesson for the minister, it's called the "Book of Revelation" not "Revelations" it's the revelation of Jesus Christ. This is why I do not trust "ministers"

[@JerryInGeorgia]

@Robert - Nailed it, Robert.

[@bxnnymxxllsbeatzzzz311]

@@JerryInGeorgia Haha... Nailed it... Jesus got nailed.Funny

[@JerryInGeorgia]

@@bxnnymxxllsbeatzzzz311 Ouch! That one really stuck!

[@richiejohnson]

So who is St John the Divine ?

[@CptGreedle]

Sleep is a stage of death? Someone is completely misunderstanding science at a fundamental level.

[@toddcott9510]

They must be on better pills than I use.

[@SnuffitLabs]

He, the caller, horribly misunderstood the claim. On several hospice and medical websites it is claimed that sleep becomes more common as someone who is terminally ill is dying. Even these websites do not actually make the claim that sleep is a stage of death.

[@JohnMorris-ge6hq]

David Hixon REM sleep there is brain activity. When you are dead there is no brain activity

[@blondeybeeetch]

That caught my attention! I thought 'well shit... i've been napping an awful lot recently. Better get that bucket list completed! Haha

[@andrewharper1609]

The French call it the petit Mort.

[@vanthdreadstar8788]

He thinks the Big Bang was a literal ‘explosion’. At that point I would have hung up.

[@geraldodonnell2595]

"Why does God need a starship?" - Captain James T. Kirk.

[@jppang4277]

I am not surprised that a minister talks in circles with vapid statements. I miss Jeff calling people out for their BS.

[@rambo8218]

Christian's internal dialogue:"I'm losing this debate!?"...blurts out: "your going to hell!"

[@foley15136]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeff had a tattoo that said *”How dare you?!?!”*

[@abitupthehudson]

Every once in a while, I come here to see how my atheist and religious brothers are doing with their debates. Things don't seem to change much, though sometimes the religious brothers can really create some unrealistic and thoughtless challenges. I love ALL of them. They are precious.

[@rhymereason3449]

LOL... the "You're going to hell" line always sets Jeff off big time.... (and I don't blame him).

[@JayTeeChillin]

Wow..."The only difference is, I've recognized it for what it is." The strongest part of that statement is...the Period!

[@norswil8763]

A minister and he hasn’t heard of Pascal’s wager? Ok

[@ralphjohnson8973]

A full historical investigation into the origins of the bible produces evidence to justify dismissing it outright.

[@joecoolioness6399]

So does reading the 2 accounts of creation, and realizing that would be the one area a real god would inspire his minions to be consistent.

[@steevrawjers]

Ralph Johnson lol true

[@joshuaspector8182]

It's a book of claims being made without evidence. You can rationally dismiss it outright without any evidence

[@informationyes]

27:11 "I don't knock things until I have full understanding of it" while at the same time has never even heard of pascals wager let alone its counter arguments! LOL

[@starfishsystems]

Such a claim is a bit of manipulation as well, trying to preemptively take the moral high ground. But it's not a very effective strategy with skeptics, because we assume that all understanding is provisional, never complete. When he implies that his own understanding CAN be complete, he's already moved to a level of presumption that bears close scrutiny. It's not surprising that he later pulls the faith card.

[@t4705mb6]

The bible is ..... ((Get THIS!!)) ... *"LOGICAL"!!??* I burst out laughing so hard when he pulled that one out of his ass I blew my Gray Goose out MY nose!

[@donnyh3497]

"If you don't agree with me then you don't understand!" 🤣

[@jimw5955]

I understand...I think

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Yeah. that's a really common fall back position when they have no response to the point.

[@teresafelber8437]

This guy is full on indoctrinated mode......

[@jamie01737]

I love how chill the caller is. '4 headed dragon? what about it?'

[@tedgrant2]

It's actually a great red Dragon with seven heads and ten horns. Some time ago this somehow matched reality because there were ten countries in the European Union. So there was supposed to be a war between Russia and the EU. It didn't happen and the book is now out of print !

[@tryintoreason9738]

Jeff Dee, works illustrating fantasy monsters. Meets a guy who claims there will be a literal four-headed dragon. Gets kid at Christmas excited. Love it.

[@dusa1122]

I was wondering when the torture of hell was coming the famous threat that keeps Christians Believing

[@joecoolioness6399]

Or pretending to believe. I would bet the number of atheists is woefully under the true number because many don't want to admit they don't believe because of the way xians and other cults tend to treat non believers.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

Yep, take away '' hell '' and where's christianity ?

[@drhexagonapus]

For a minister, it almost sounds like this is the first time he had thought about these problems. Very surprising he would be unfamiliar with pascal's wager.

[@kenbarlow6274]

If he's a minister I'm a four-headed dragon. "40 Rosemaries"?

[@davewilliams5102]

Ken....Great comment. Still laughing.

[@JerryInGeorgia]

I know what the hell was that?

[@madamvaudelune3298]

@ Jerome walker I think he meant 'forty hail Marys on a Rosary,' not sure but I think.

[@davids11131113]

Jesus was a great Italian chef.

[@cutlasssupreme6984]

This caller”s mindset is one of the reasons why the transatlantic slavery was permitted in the US for 400 years. It’s disgusting.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

Nah, it was really about money, and lots of it.

[@tommystyx]

The driving force that made me an atheist is called the truth. When my parents sent me to Sunday School, I was kicked out because I kept wanting the truth. They told me to just have faith and faith isn't a path that leads to truth. That was over sixty years ago and I still haven't heard the truth from any church.

[@stevenhogenson4880]

The "just have faith" is the Christian equivalent of a con man's "trust me...." We all know how that turns out.

[@jerrylanglois7892]

All religions have the '' truth ''.

[@infidelcastro5129]

Claims to be knowledgeable then says “If I were a catholic and told you to say 40 Rosemaries” 😂

[@Authenticallyathena]

Right?!?! Never been Catholic at all and I even knew that was wrong. Idiot.

[@MPHampel86]

Jeff was on fire in this one. He is sorely missed.

[@norswil8763]

Matt Hampel, his arguments were always pin point and palatable and delivered with good wit. Missed

[@Frankya92]

Looking back, he’s very underrated. He used to get on my nerves, but old clips like these make me rethink. He had a lot of moments of justified outrage.

[@jarodcarnarvon5198]

I miss Jeff's "How DARE you" on the show, LOL

[@AllThingsFilm1]

This guy is a minister? I fear for his followers. Intellectually dishonest comes to mind.

[@ummmno3871]

That’s literally every single one of them

[@lanceparker5863]

There are NO winnable arguments that start with the words "The Bible says..."

[@rufussthubbins8891]

Jeff Dee is the best. HOWWW DAREE YOU!!!

[@geezzerboy]

He's proud to be a minister, he's proud of telling lies for a living?

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Just like every other minister, pastor, priest, he's fleecing his flock. If they're stupid enough to follow such 🐂💩, then they deserve to be conned, fleeced and ripped off. Phark 'em!

[@arrahatt]

All things about Christianity proves that If there is somebody to SellBull, there will always be somebody to BuyBull. It is just HolyBull!!!

[@billfranklin9443]

Ha, ha, The greatest Being of all, God, always needs money. George Carlin.

[@nickshaw6085]

33:50 "...say forty Rosemarys and you're forgiven." Wow.

[@JJ_SDWR]

Mr Christian minister everyone... yikes

[@twig8523]

Did he get it wrong out of mockery of Catholicism, as a protestant/evangelical American... Or was his supposed "research" of all the other religions & denominations just that badly done?

[@JJ_SDWR]

@@twig8523 he sounded genuine to me but who knows.

[@joyceanderson3243]

I went to church for 50 years. The more I became involved the more I become less enchanted. The Bible is just a book written by priests not God or whom ever. The injustices in there couldn’t possibly be written by any smart being. Keep up good work.

[@markwhitmore9326]

Fear of the unknown is loud and clear.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

Why do people think if you don't agree, that you didn't understand? They think if you understand it, you'd fall for it.

[@amazonhippie7826]

I’ve always loved Ashley’s “Myep”. 🤣🤣🤣

[@arthurunknown8972]

When you have the facts, you argue the facts. When you have the logic, you argue the logic. When you have neither, you attack your opponents by threatening magical torture.

[@Rob-fc9wg]

I'm gunna use that. Cheers from Oz🇦🇺

[@couturestalker8606]

Jeff Dee is metal af

[@ONLINEMARTY]

I miss Jeff Dee he was great on this show.

[@unkaumanguy1439]

Great jobs guys! I'm glad you let him have both barrels because his BS is harmful.

[@AlejandroGarcia-bh3gx]

23:20-23:26 Caller " not a dragon a beast" hahaha

[@REDPotriats757]

Alejandro Garcia 🤣 that was hilarious

[@0x777]

Well, if you put it THAT way, of course it makes a lot more sense...

[@roder51]

Never heard of Pascal's wager. Calls himself a minister. LMAO!

[@Dr.vonKrankenhausen]

Man do I miss Jeff's rants!

[@Dr.vonKrankenhausen]

Only love, lol

[@ImGoingSupersonic]

I love the classic, "HOW DARE YOU..." from ole trusty Jeff Deeze nuts

[@Urban-Spaceman]

“ No I didn’t say 4 headed dragon, I said beast”. Oh, well that makes sense now. 😂

[@holaferfi]

It's 2023, I'm still waiting for the four-headed dragon

[@AlanaGurl]

I love Jeff! He owned that Pastor! 🙌🏾😂

[@NoName-fp3jk]

Embarrassing!! Thanks guys for many years of amazing job!!

[@fifthape2119]

Q: Who created the universe? A: The _God Of The Gaps._

[@shannonmc7090]

I miss Jeff. ❤️

[@bms77]

He’s also assuming with Pascal’s wager that we can just choose to believe something we aren’t convinced is true n the first place lol

[@davide123]

Yes, even if I concluded that it is safer to believe (which I haven't), that still doesn't increase the believability of the story at all.

[@2ahdcat]

Get Him, Jeff! lol

[@troyajohnson26]

Did anyone else see the hypocrisy in the minister’s last recommendation?

[@joecoolioness6399]

Imagine listening to that minister every Sunday, snooze fest!

[@cedrichartz6426]

I missed Jeff Dee's eyebrow

[@robertbennett6728]

That Romulan bastard was always fun to listen to.

[@RumbleXomaz]

"And we're getting you the decaf next week" 😂

[@billhinsperger8120]

Jeff rules lol love this guy

[@Lucas_Aaron]

It's not a four headed dragon; it's a four headed beast! Get it right! Gaaaawh! lolol

[@lindabowman2139]

Kiyo Faye Think the preacher got 4 headed dragon mixed up with Game of Thrones ones!!