Ministry - Primental (05-18-1982)

[@rivotrich7]

I cant believe that they eventually ditched this sound. I really like their synth tones here. Most good new wave bands from the era dont sound this good.

[@vragmoj2754]

It's a shame they didn't do more, but I think Al made the right decision by switching to a harder industrial sound and incorporating guitars. Had he not done that, With Sympathy would be about all there is to Ministry as this sound was passe even by the time it came out. Instead Ministry became industrial metal gods for a decade. Of course then came the drugs and the silly politics and even then no-one cared as ling as the tunes were good. But look at him now. Antifa was about when I tuned out. Oh well, we'll always have these old tracks.

[@t.n.3819]

@@vragmoj2754 I agree with what you said, but With Sympathy already had guitars on it. Aside from the personnel breakdown you can find, where Al is credited with guitar, you can see him playing one in some of the live videos from around that era that are floating around online. Like this Work For Love video: Ij1GeZGxhds

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

I would kill to see modern Ministry playing one of their shows and then just break into this awesome tune! This tune rocks and it definitely holds up today! The audience would eat it up!

[@lowtek4475]

I read your comment singing like it was the I Wanted To Tell Her lyrics

[@PhillipFreeman-yl9yq]

Saw them in St Louis back in the 90s in a small underground venue for $15. It was so loud everything in your pants shook. And that was all the way back in the WC.

[@precarious333music]

You can hear how this evolved into 'I Wanted to Tell Her'. Great shit! Been listening to With Sympathy for a week now. 👍

[@NullStaticVoid]

Was just thinking the same

[@BradThePitts]

Main riff sounds more like Theives and Liars to me.

[@NullStaticVoid]

@@BradThePitts kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqmudqxuh8qYhNksi=DovN9KTWn_WksaaV

[@carlhorowitz9958]

While Ministry obviously does not want to go back this type of sound again, and they're as great as ever, it's a pleasure to experience it all over again anyway.

[@monicavicious5110]

This is amazing. Back to your roots Ministry!

[@SniffyPoo]

cant over how rad this track sounds

[@paulxavier642]

God I love this non mainstream 80's greatness!!!!!!!!!

[@sonjahakala8976]

Yeah. The music nowadays sucks totally. I wish I were born twenty years earlier. But at least I'm able to enjoy the old good music, because these master pieces have been saved for the younger generation. All things in the 2000's sucks, whether it be music, fashion or anything.

[@sofacus9703]

there's good music out today, check out bandcamp

[@arnaudbleu]

It sounds like a pre-version of "I wanted to tell her".

[@ms.roopnarine.]

Ministry . .. .ALL these songs are perfect and Al was SOOOOO good looking

[@Napalmcpt]

Absolutely awesome song. Listened to this like five times in a row. Love the synths. Didn't even know that Ministry has done something this good.

[@af893489]

This is basically I Wanted to Tell Her, which came a couple of years later on With Sympathy. Awesome!!!

[@boognishlion]

This is so alive and raw. God please give me a damn time machine Now! Amen

[@pablodiablo765]

I have heard similar from mid 2000s trance songs. Al is always ahead of his time.

[@markmcarthy596]

Al was wrong in criticizing early Ministry’s sound. It’s what got Me to be a lifelong fan

[@_a_curious_robot]

Yes, but it's very different from this one. Personally, I think that this version is by far better. It has a retrofuturistic sound, which I love hehe

[@alexanderkramer8270]

I like this version better than the studio recording, lol, seems more raw and off the cuff

[@goodbyecruelworld1]

I love the sound of this song done live. Its a lot better than the disco sounding studio version. I wish Al would release some of these early 1980s shows. A lot of the material they played then never saw the light of day in a studio recording, and its a shame.

[@rleeroberts6350]

This is in the box set on clear vinyl.

[@iliadav]

Wow, it sounds brilliant. How on earth this tune never made it into a movie soundtrack? Something like "Into The Night"?

[@TBLO1976]

after a smoke....this simply blew me away, come back....come back

[@cnoeroman]

At first look of this picture, seems like if were Echo and the bunnymen

[@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd]

Roomy Lan - Every hip post-punker had Ian Macallough's or Peter Murphy's (and, Daniel Ash's) haircut, back them.

[@perpetual61]

I agree Al looks a bit like Ian McCulloch.

[@RobertC85]

i think that's what arista wanted them to look like

[@alexanderkramer8270]

Lol, for sure

[@mr.pinkerton6393]

this later became I Wanted To Tell Her

[@thomaskenneally219]

Was listening to this for the first time and was like "wait a minute..."

[@simonsantander5816]

@@thomaskenneally219 i started to sing it hahaha

[@ms.roopnarine.]

I LOOOOOVE THIS. ITS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!!!!

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

Al should play an early ministry show before he dies. People would go crazy for it.

[@errware7656]

honestly this must be the pinnacle of this band, such synth experimental genious

[@jackjude]

+err Ware it's interesting reading the Wikipedia entry on this phase of the band.

[@zoecidell78]

err Ware HEH HERH HA HA HA OH HELL

[@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd]

Lol

[@controletechnique]

Wow, fucking ruled already, even before the killer female vocals trown on "I wanted to tell her"! Definitely one of my favourite bands from all time!

[@reaganwiles_art]

and why should the band not have changed, but remained the same, in the ten years before the emergence around '92 of the mature Ministry? This demonstrates that they (Al J. and rotating members) were serious artists, not kowtowers. The trajectory of this band from inception to today is very impressive.

[@kicksex]

I agree man. I have recently been jamming that album. Very underrated and very good!

[@relativitycraft]

God this song is so good! True true true Industrial down to the roots!

[@Renwoodpeaches]

Need more unreleased early Ministry FTW!

[@themetropolitanpsychosis2116]

I can definitely Sense this stuff from ministry being the forefront for their metal stuff even after listening to victims of a clown and I can compare how even to their metal days they still keep to their reverb delay style and synth stuff kinda :) and also I can definitely hear some distortions in this ❤❤❤❤❤ also their keyboardist from victims of a clown rocks :)

[@rleeroberts6350]

This track is in the trax box i just picked up..its on clear vinyl.

[@skeleman1963]

I agree!! Premorphed " I Wanted To Tell Her" sounds awesome 30+ yrs later....but then my kids just say " Dad you are stuck in the 80's musically"...oh well... : )

[@johntrickey4188]

is it just me ,or is this ," I wanted to tell her"?

[@chrisbryz1652]

kind of eh I kept wanting to sing the chorus along to it

[@highlow1212]

its is the same just a bunch added on top and parts missing so yes and no

[@aaronquijano28]

Exactly. This I think evolved into what became I wanted to tell her

[@NullStaticVoid]

Kraftwerk did much the same thing. A few of their songs have the same beats and or melodies.

[@oddballsok]

here you hear it much better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXzUeKuGmMuiars

[@halfcabdisaster7]

I wish he had made more like it, more fun to listen to.

[@beaujohnson9720]

Al is a very talented gifted bright musician performer genius long live al Jorgensen

[@randyj420]

this is aweswome! great post

[@SniffyPoo]

i love this

[@savfilm88]

.....Can we send a massive amount of emails to the studio that is making Hotline Miami 2 to make sure this is included on the soundtrack?

[@Paulinoo]

Incredible version! Grrrreat!

[@dannymora5033]

Just great, wow.

[@pashedmotatos]

3 days after Gordon Smiley died in a horrific racing accident, 182 miles away in Indianapolis.

[@johnetheridge2055]

Sounds a lot like I wanted to tell her but a lot faster love this version as well

[@drithdx]

80's in its core sound. Like it :>

[@shaunfossett]

I love how Al tries to pretend this period in his music career didn´t exist

[@carlhorowitz9958]

He was angry that the record company (Arista) was trying to remold him into something he wasn't. Read his autobiography, which came out around 2012-2013.

[@annahanguiano8931]

I love how people think Al has disowned this album when he's always been upfront with his real reason he didn't like the album. He is redoing these songs on his tour next year.

[@KeCo77495]

So epic

[@moondoggieist]

Yeah they were young then gosh i miss those days!!

[@Problembeing]

Shame it's better than practically every album since Psalm 69.

[@zoeyweachaw2445]

Hey guys, I changed my mind, lets be a metal band instead.

[@Holiday_Ringo]

Joe Meacham i think being exposed to the music industry opened al's eyes to the sinister truth in the world today

[@jnnx]

Garl Gamp and drugs, don't forget drugs.

[@GrimeBot2000]

HE DID ALL THE DRUGS

[@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd]

Al did it for more drug money.

[@MichaelSartore]

hey guys.. a decade passed and i'm interested in different shit.

[@mgg121288able]

Yes I have listened to that album. ^^

[@DJManiakNYC]

Is this just the 12 Inch Singles version played at twice the speed?

[@rleeroberts6350]

No it's live ... Chicago 82

[@AORCrazy]

This is better than I wanted to tell her...

[@scoutthatcher5567]

Love It !!!

[@hgrey1935]

Interesting seeing Vince Ely, drummer for the Psychedelic Furs, in this photo. I know he co-produced With Sympathy....

[@TBLO1976]

Psychedelic Electro Ministry, now thats a head fook if there ever was

[@Gary.North.ElectroBrain586.]

Fresh for 40+ year's

[@Napalmcpt]

I always thought that Ministry sucks, but then I heard this one!

[@grimlyfiendish5579]

Exactly lol

[@carlhorowitz9958]

There's nothing about Ministry or its offshoots (1000 Homo DJs, Revolting Cocks, Pailhead, etc.) that sucks. They are fantastic band.

[@dominiquemary6085]

remember you got bad taste!

[@Abbebeck]

I still own that jacket that Vince is wearing, baby blue weave with white piping, Ok officially feeling nostagic

[@1vootman]

Just own it and don't be apologetic already Al

[@traceRT66]

This is the music for 'I wanted to tell her" and "say you're sorry"

[@Krano229]

Back when Ministry was actually good.

[@carlhorowitz9958]

Ministry was always fantastic. Best band of its type. Yes, I know about Killing Joke, KMFDM, Static-X, etc. But Ministry is still king, baby.

[@foxbasealpha]

Far beyond anything Depeche Mode was doing at the time.

[@AORCrazy]

this is original? it's by far better than I wanted to tell her...

[@ebbhead7835]

I Wanted To Tell Her meets the theme song from CHiPs. ;)

[@ModMokkaMatti]

Finally scrolled down far enough to see this observation that I agree with, years after its original post. 👍

[@robertoalmeidafilho9139]

Uau!!!!!! Sensacional!

[@weatherkop]

holy shit this is fresh

[@mgg121288able]

Strangly sounds a little progressive rockish like Yes. XD

[@hijofavoritodesatan]

I can't believe that sound ends with "Adios Putras Madres"!!!!

[@JuanFernandoRamirezMarin]

Cuando Al Jourgensen tocaba cosas buenas...

[@mrxdrno4266]

so be really proud of it the industrial goth scene is..... ie que hagan mas en el futuro ! llevatello thanks!

[@bmxpacman]

This sounds like an early demo for "I wanted to tell her" with no vocals...

[@perpetual61]

That's because it is.

[@saudibint]

05-18-1982 the day i was born

[@rleeroberts6350]

Yr just a wee toddler.

[@sonjahakala8976]

I love these old Ministry songs. ♥

[@emile235]

me too, hate the shouty aggressive White Zombie era stuff

[@richardhills2543]

Far FAR better than the later stuff ....

[@vilhenahc6345]

Esse Ministry da antiga é Classe A também

[@moondoggieist]

It is a very early version.

[@dannymora5033]

Fucking future of music, genius..

[@TheFatyBella]

Το κομμάτι μας !!!

[@herbyverstink]

this could be their best effort all time....is that eli roth sitting on the ground?

[@christopherwoods6]

Early stuff and Twitch!

[@debcoon6548]

Re-do this NOW

[@marioolave6334]

i re-do the love for you

[@rleeroberts6350]

NO..ITS FINE AS IS.

[@darrenrosenberg525]

Who else is pictured besides Al

[@rhyno4eva]

Uncle Al looks like Ray Liotta in this picture.

[@ElectricLabel]

OK, knock me down with a feather if that's not Ian McCulloch...

[@thedavesiknow4598]

I wanted to tell her❤❤❤

[@SPACEGIRLESCT]

very ! very good !!!!

[@mikemiglieri7666]

Anybody know what happened to keyboardist John Davis? I worked with him after he left the band.

[@TheRobSquaredShow]

Unfortunately JD passed away in Florida around 2005 from heart failure.

[@rleeroberts6350]

Al has done so many drugs they use his blood as anti-dope for near overdose patients. LOVE THAT GUY NO MATTER WHAT

[@akira82]

This sounds like "I wanted to tell her" check ...With Sympathy

[@rivotrich7]

Awesome

[@DrDougMusic1]

Thank you. I was wondering since they showed 5 guys but only list 4 names.

[@iamjuanpablo]

So... this is the very first version of primental? What about the version of the 12" Cold Life? I mean, this one is much better, but any information I´ve found about is for the one in the Cold Life LP. Thanks for uploading it!

[@roberty.938]

Lots of elements of I Wanted to tell Her, especially 2:20

[@jordysden9639]

Wow

[@edgarfernando3200]

welcome to Proto-techno.

[@sergiodoctorino4553]

Great sint song .

[@kevinbennett7329]

wow Uncle Al looked so beautiful then didn't he? no tattoos or piercings then. that's how many of us looked with the big hair and the black and the clove cigarettes.

[@perpetual61]

Yes I've said it on numerous occasions what a Good Looking guy he was back then. Long before his use of Heroine Destroyed his Looks and he got into many facial Piercings.

[@matteobanzi5815]

This is basically I Wanted To Tell Her from With Sympathy

[@hanssollo]

Yeah!

[@TitularHeroine]

Raw but refined. Still the $h¡t after all this time.

[@BradThePitts]

The main riff sounds like "Thieves and Liars". Wonder why. 😂

[@hvega972]

I prefer this over there newet material

[@perpetual61]

I wanted To Tell Her But I Stuck to my lies.