Ministry concert - July 20, 1983

[@countvanbruno182]

The coolest era of Ministry

[@countvanbruno182]

@Stephen Anthony I know, what happened? :(

[@albertprazolam4341]

Haha try to tell Al that. I did at an after show get together in '87 (or '88) at the Ambassador in Dallas. First he tries to buy my Tanker boots off me then we're drinking a bottle of Jameson (he tells me he drinks Irish Whiskey because he vomits alot of nights before he falls asleep and it comes up easier on the throat) and get into a discussion as to why he won't play anything before Twitch. He shunned that early stuff saying it was too dancy he'd moved on etc... I got into an argument with him about it, my GF and I were dying to hear Halloween and they did not play it. Every Day is Halloween, Revenge, is so great. Everyday is Halloween is timeless. At least they did play Over the Shoulder which was so great. Too each his own and it's his deal to move on but that alt metal sounding guitar stuff of the next decade was terrible.

[@PaxBWithU89th]

​@albertprazolam4341 agree with u, to me Both New Wave And The Industrial Metal Phase Of Ministry Were Great, After Filth Pig I Feel Like The Band's Prime Years Were Done, Their New Stuff In my Opinion Is Terrible.

[@MISCchout]

They opened for The Police three days later at a Stadium in Chicago.

[@Tigowner]

I was there…it was Comiskey Park, and it was a day long show with A Flock of Seagulls, The Fixx, Joan Jett and The Police. I came for Ministry, because I was a Wax Trax! kid

[@redcoat4ever323]

Sorry but this version of Ministry was/is always absolutely brilliant.

[@DaveCaulton]

yup, it’s hard to understand why they would abandon it.

[@trashyraccoon2615]

@@DaveCaultonthis is light years better than the cheesy metal band they became. Last good thing they did was Psalms 69. Lame wanna be metal after that

[@noracola5285]

​@@trashyraccoon2615 I was about to disagree with you and then I remembered I hadn't bought anything from them since Psalm 69 😅

[@trashyraccoon2615]

@@noracola5285 Yeah. I could never get into their stuff after that. Every few years I try again and it just never works

[@maguffintop2596]

Exactly no apology necessary

[@TYGR3T]

If I had a time machine, I would be at this show. Best new wave sound.

[@raserx63]

Gosh , I was 19 when this came out. WLIR in New York was the only station to play Ministry and I loved it. Bought the cassette and cranked it in my Camaro nonstop for weeks..

[@truthhurts79]

Damn, you old as fuck!

[@raserx63]

@@truthhurts79 50's are the new 30's my friend..just ask Cruise ,Pitt & Keanu ..stay thin and in shape ...dont smoke and you'll be fine.

[@Cum007]

@@raserx63 Two glasses of wine each night for 45 years. Healthy as fuck. Spar 15 rounds boxing every day. Live to 87.

[@liamh6862]

wlir RULED !!

[@robbiesharp311]

Your "Bitchin camero".....

[@zeppelinfan82]

Any Ministry is Good Ministry. I love this era!

[@josejones7025]

The early incarnation of the Ministry were great old. Al Can fuck off now he can go to hell

[@NYNJDAN]

I was in high school and college during this period and really loved Ministry. Not sure about you guys, but I can totally see the connection between the old stuff and the heavier work of later on. This old Ministry was all part of the development, evolution, growth of the sound. It's all connected. You'd never get to today's Ministry without yesterday's Ministry. I guess you'd have to have been around during those days and live through/experience the whole vibe of that time to know what I'm talking about. Now...I need to go read and watch what Al has said about how he hated Ministry of that time. Well...we all LOVED it.

[@DaveCaulton]

me too, i don’t think i got the memo when this lost favored status.

[@ClockwiseCat]

I agree - if you were THERE, you could see the subtle transition taking place, from the faux-Brit-accented new wavey WS to the more fiercely electro-pop single EDIH to the harsher dance-industrial Twitch to the more full blown industrial metal of LORAH and beyond. Somewhere along the way, they lost me, but I will always cherish their albums through Psalm69. I have maybe 2 of their later albums and have partially listened to the others, but they are just too mired in the metal for my tastes. I like metal, don't get me wrong, but they don't make very interesting metal, IMO. They need to be more synth-poppy again, but that will never happen.

[@gr3y_eminence]

@@ClockwiseCat I came back to Ministry this last month and find that live in 83 to early 90s they were clearly solid and interesting. I think rehab derailed Filth Pig (1995) and going back to drugs Dark Side of the Spoon (1998). After that I remember only my hardcore Ministry friends were like yeah its legacy music.... I mean Al was fucking captivating when he's performing even some songs I don't yet know from the live tapes of 83.

[@yetanotheruser1989]

Yeah for me, everything after Psalm69 is aggressive, but pretty bland. Everything before that, however, is just brilliant artistry, musicianship and engineering talent. They were really pushing the limits in so many ways

[@kasebmohamed5468]

1. 0:42 Work For Love 2. 8:21 So-So Life 3. 14:23 or 15:29 Revenge 4. 21:05 Effigy (I'm Not An) 5. 25:27 What Is The Reason? 6. 29:31 I'm Falling 7. 33:52 I Wanted To Tell Her 8. 39:27 What He Say 9. 44:11 Here We Go Rappel: 10. 49:02 James Bond Theme 11. 50:29 Overkill

[@SuperElectricKingdom]

thx

[@ДанилаГавриков-д1ш]

@@SuperElectricKingdom Same Old Madness 1982 may chicago

[@alexdully]

😊

[@francisbottoni6470]

These uploads of Nuwave Ministry is some of the most breathtaking stuff on KZbin...thanks so very much for uploading 🥰

[@lolliwag]

uber-marvelous for various reasons: 1-Al shall never revisit his synth-pop Nuwave past (most unfortunate to say the least). 2-Al was so pretty back then its almost a crime he never did any professional modeling 3-Trent Reznor still won't admit he wuz into dis side of Ministry before he even got into WaxTrax! stuff, Twitch or Land Rape & Honey 4-Groovie Mann of Thrill Kill Kult helped Al find direction & dis stuff is closely rooted to Special Affect-only die-hard Ministry fans know these factoids

[@christeuma]

Reznor what? Have you HEARD Pretty Hate Machine?

[@FrightfulAccountant]

I would spend beyond Depeche Mode money to get into this show today...

[@starvingbuddha7622]

Daaaamn! This is really good! I never listened to this era ministry except everyday is halloween. I am floored

[@ScottLeeRockshow]

They could have surpassed Depeche Mode as the biggest New Wave industrial band .

[@MrTangent]

If DM were industrial.

[@RichV20]

@@MrTangent Dm took some industrial elements for their sample. This sounds like Construction Time Again to an extent.

[@PaxBWithU89th]

​@@MrTangentPeople Are People : Am I A Joke To You?

[@MrTangent]

@@PaxBWithU89th People Are People is synthpop of course. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@PaxBWithU89th]

@@MrTangent It Had Some Industrial Vibes But Yeah U Beat me.

[@massimodambrogio]

All that VHS noise fits perfectly

[@gr3y_eminence]

I feel like I need to run white noise because of VHS, making music its good if its sounds like it was put to tape, mechanical white noise.

[@glamnesianouveaux2039]

And ... FINALLY .... Al performed Work For Love in the "Cruel World" set. It was absolutely AMAZING **** To have been there (sigh) !!!!!

[@Souvlaki93]

Ministry @ First Avenue, Minneapolis, July 20, 1983 1. Work For Love 0:42 2. So-So Life 8:21 3. Revenge 14:23 or 15:29 4. Effigy (I'm Not An) 21:05 5. What Is The Reason? 25:27 6. I'm Falling 29:31 7. I Wanted To Tell Her 33:52 8. What He Say 39:27 9. Here We Go 44:11 Encore: 10. James Bond Theme 49:02 11. Overkill 50:29

[@chrischarge3129]

I love First Ave. and had the Privilege of playing both main stage and 7th Street Entry while living in Mpls.

[@DrunkenPostie]

I *never* knew of them like this! The chorused guitar, everything, is of that era!

[@EricandDish]

Hard to believe this year marks the 40th anniversary Ministry released their breakthrough album🎶-and New Wave classic-"With Symphony"😏. This must of come during the group's first tour of America. Interestingly enough, three days after this, they returned to Chicago (they were there the previous year)...and played in front of over 30,000 people at Comiskey Park; as part of WLS' Rock concert festival (Ministry replaced The Simple Minds after they withdrew).👍

[@myartprocess6003]

It was a great era. I love Al.

[@annieka6672]

I like 90’s Ministry a lot.

[@Wscate]

You can kinda tell Al was ok with this period but he was much more of an angry guy then they wanted to make him out to be. Just l;listen to the lyrics even on With Sympathy he's pissed the producer just kinda wrapped it up in a poppy package. He had some really great sons from this period that never were released it is a shame. I love what Ministry became but i also love the more new wave part as well.

[@soulminer]

Yes I agree with what you're saying. First heard him on a college radio station in 83. Sure some of his metal albums aren't that great and I've bought a few throughout the years but I always respected what he has to say.

[@MrVegasdeuce]

This style of music was happening in Chicago at the time. Uncle Al and the crew just amped it up a bit..🖤

[@edya866]

I am so glad theres a video of this online.

[@briandonahue6390]

What in the depeche mode and no face tattoos is going on here?!?!?

[@jestermindcrime1773]

you are witnessing the birth of Industrial,,,,,,,show respect

[@nekojamesp]

So cool to see this after all these years - I was one of the two keyboard players. (on the right.)

[@DaveCaulton]

Wow, it’s our honor and pleasure!

[@robertlane1197]

There’s a With Sympathy cover band in LA now...

[@MaleTears]

nice, what;s their name???

[@rivotrich7]

@@MaleTears They call themselves “With Sympathy” 😊 Its true. Pretty cool!

[@MaleTears]

@@rivotrich7 sick, thank you! maybe i'll seek them out and play a gig with them! there's also a Christian Death cover band in LA called Only Theatre of Pain

[@smedleydarlingtonbutler5291]

@@MaleTearscrazy to see y’all here! I think I have a few friends who played gigs with y’all

[@raypatton7861]

I'm a huge Al fan never heard this before but he is very talented person. There was alot of great dance Funk in the early 80s. Al is someone who found his way to greatness.

[@gedimangediman]

When ministry made good music.

[@nathangreen5097]

No shit. TIL he shills for the NWO instead of against it. Sad.

[@AndreasKisser82]

2024 год. Мы дождались этих песен!

[@metalstalin]

This is great.

[@heygringo7]

If Al had carried on in this direction, not only would the music have been much better and cooler, but he'd look like a hip, dignified Bryan Ferry-esque old man instead of a tattooed circus freak pin cushion

[@williampowell4817]

so you think that Al wouldn't look like he does today based on what type of music he is producing? lol I think it has more to do with drugs than the music.

[@bluxer4225]

Это верно, но кто бы его сейчас знал и помнил? Еще одна группа новой волны второго плана.

[@GonzoIV]

Bad take

[@jakelee7639]

@@williampowell4817 once he ruined this band and started making crap music of course he’s gonna take drugs....then more bad music and a troubled tattooed Psycho look is sure to follow

[@williampowell4817]

@@jakelee7639 well, according to Al in his book he was a substance abuser during his teens, so the drugs came way before this video was recorded. although tattoos are probably just a result of the addictive personality trait he has. I would say that is also partially the reason for all the piercings, he gave up heroin and substituted that addiction with the piercings. which isn't uncommon for recovering addicts to find an alternative to drugs to get their fix, like skydiving etc. As far making crap music, i personally like the evolution of ministry from synth pop to the more aggressive sound, if a band ceases to evolve then they become boring, which i would say is the issue with the latest output from Al and Ministry, Ministry stopped evolving and it's basically stuck and repeating itself. while i may not necessarily care for the what Al has put out recently with Ministry since house of the mole, there are a still a handful of decent songs here and there on the proceeding releases. I personally would love to see him mix the current sound with the synth pop days, i doubt it will happen, but who knows maybe we will see some with sympathy styled music from ministry one day.

[@triuman]

Only listening after seeing, hearing Ministry for the 1st time on Slayer's last tour. Quite an evolution from this to the Amerikkant record....

[@Krystian88able]

"The Falling" song just sounds identical to The Cure's song "A forest" with some bauhaus vibes.

[@markush1819]

awesome concert with great version of revenge this was ministry at their best,thanks for upload.

[@DaveCaulton]

You taught me something new today - thanks for the heads up on Special Affect. I agree with your points as well. It could be the warm fuzzies because I was just coming of age musically when I got a hold of this but it's a shame to me that this music doesn't get the love it deserves.

[@amandacorrin]

I'M FALLING?! I sure did. Thank you to the uploader of this. Eternally greatful. Sincerely, Amanda

[@D-Ross86]

🥰

[@TwistOfTransistor]

So amazing!!!!

[@vig1lante]

It's gonna be interesting how well they do the Cruel World Fest with them performing With Sympathy and Twitch .

[@JayTando]

BRILLIANT

[@AZHomeAdvisors]

This is gold

[@kalisilot6010]

Wow brings back great memories

[@SamHaynesMusic]

These songs sound absolutely brilliant live. Ive been checking out a few of the live shows from this era they are soooo good

[@dimmuborgir788]

This is amazinggg!! Just thinking of the fact that I will never see any of these songs live gives me an empty feeling inside... see you in a few weeks Uncle Al

[@creekandseminole]

They're actually doing a few shows soon in honor of the Waxtrax records documentary that is about to come out and have stated that they are going to play some of these old tunes. For real

[@randomquentin]

@@creekandseminole unfortunately they didn't play any new wave

[@robertlane1197]

creekandseminole - lies and lies. Unless an acoustic version of Halloween counts? (It doesn’t)

[@carlroyle3055]

Played Revenge live! 2023!

[@ClubNoiseband]

I mean the it’s got the cringed popisms if you look for it, but it’s overall dark and somewhat sinister or at least angry

[@theuberman7170]

One of the most amazing transformations in music history. Miley Cyrus takes second place.

[@epictetus9221]

Miley Cyrus..... not so sure about that.

[@mikemcinyre1622]

i get what you're saying.

[@colico14]

Pantera?

[@leoromanopinelo4761]

Bring me the horizon, bon jovi. There’s quite a few bands who kept the same name, went in a different direction

[@shanksmcnasty6650]

@@leoromanopinelo4761 lol right, Bring me the horizons 180 transformation was this drastic, just in the opposite direction. From heavy to radio friendly bubble gum pop

[@Guitarist888]

I’m surprised that they didn’t open up for Prince!

[@thomasgoeschl7980]

I was 3 years old .1992\93 I became a Ministry,Nailbomb,NIN,Fetish 69,and another industrial punk shit.Thanks for uploading

[@nathangreen5097]

I was 3 when this happened too! 😂 I’m watching this wishing I coulda been there. I miss the 80’s so much. 90’s were cool, but the 80’s had something really special that was lost in the 90’s.

[@aweidenhammer]

Thanks for this! Amazing to see this great live performance of mediocre studio tracks. Love to see Al starting to show his teeth here.

[@martinthomas3958]

I’m from Minnesota, where this took place (first avenue is an iconic club in MN, not too far from where I live. I would have loved to be here, but I was 5 in ‘83…. 🤘🤘

[@lolliwag]

it gets da luv in small doses by those of us who shall never forget how pure & visceral Al wuz...he still rules but of course its his evil twin that took over...one could say he evolved vs. those who stigmatize him...like he's an abomination or mutation of his true self but it worx, Al is versatile & has invented genres, cross pollinated genres & even destroyed sum genres, lol...thnx for sharing my luv for Nuwave Synth-Pop Ministry!!

[@jnnx]

What genres did he invent? I love Uncle Al too, but there’s a difference between hype and history...

[@animalblack8482]

Great band. Thxs for the upload. Suppose KJ changed their musical course

[@stag7882004]

This man is a metal god now

[@PaxBWithU89th]

Nah, He Was A Metal God Here, The Only Difference Was The Record Label. Al Wanted His Debut To Sound Like 'Twitch' And 'The Land Of Milk And Honey' at that Time But His Record Label Ignored His Idea and Pushed Him to Do A More Commercially New Wave Instead which Is the Reason why Al Hated This Album and Era. He Likes The Songs But He Doesn't Like The History Involving With It.

[@meow7526]

i need synthpop ministry back

[@glamnesianouveaux2039]

What is that 2nd track?!?!?! "So So"??? .... OMFG!!! - It is too die for!

[@mikemike8142]

Work! Great dance traxs

[@mpriddy313]

this is so much better than the album

[@p.t.murphymagictheatre3045]

Three days later (July 23, 1983) they opened for the Police at Comiskey Park Chicago.

[@DaveCaulton]

wow. i had no idea.

[@davidellis5141]

Solid band / New Wave !

[@sweethair2310]

wild I bet this concert would be trippy

[@rperricone]

not really. they toured with APB, it was great

[@francescakatz6563]

It was! Saw them twice,live back in 84

[@owenrobertson907]

Don't care .but I fucking love ministry ....even this bash at being a British synth band ..lol.👍 go Al.

[@guitarguy5]

I love their old stuff and their new... My top favorite songs are Work For Love and Breathe

[@kevfern]

Sold their soul to the Man to get their toes inside the Door that depeche mode/new order opened up. once in, they became hardcore....Twitch was the middleground and best album IMO...over the shoulder/my possession....saw them in this era NYC 1984 i think in gramercy park...Never got into the hard stuff speed metal but still listened

[@blahblah606]

Minneapolis 🎶🌌🎶

[@dableu5602]

❤year by them in Sound ,Ty

[@Waktrax2]

Thanks!

[@martinwilhelm7652]

I can't believe what i see...ähh...hear😄...we can be happy that Al found later the "right way" for the music of Ministry!They make so fantastic music🤠🤘👏👏👏💪👍

[@ModMokkaMatti]

This was the right way for Ministry. They completely imploded after Twitch, and ceased to be relevant.

[@jakelee7639]

@@ModMokkaMatti agreed....they used to be fun and adventurous....then contrived and dark.......this was so great

[@joet9277]

I know what ya mean I grew up in Stamford, CT my bud and I were 23 when he turned me on to them but hate to say love 90's Ministry much better

[@cygnusalpha5575]

he used to have a good voice and a cool style

[@beebenson5139]

Al is a walking corpse at this point.

[@Nominay]

I always thought the intro to Work For Love was ridiculously long.

[@magicpondrecords]

Think thats the dance music influence

[@thegildedagemadonnabe]

Does anyone know anything about Paul Taylor the super gothy guy who played bass and synth for Ministy?

[@louweedoficial148]

La mejor era de Ministry!

[@maguffintop2596]

I can’t believe nobody has bought the rights and remade this group?!?

[@KevlarVTX]

Before he messed up his face.

[@WokelandDefector]

He used to be so hot!

[@dmperfection]

Al should do a limited show tour of With Sympathy and charge $1k per 🎟! 🤣🤣

[@WorldGovernmentGeoInstitut]

Just perform them under a different band name and perform at Glastonbury, Bonnaroo, etc. rather than heavy rock fests.

[@MrVegasdeuce]

I'll add Twitch to that too. Make it 2k...

[@导演文森吴]

And that is why you should store your vhs in the dark. Although in view of the fact that vhs have a max lifespan of 30 years every tape that wasn’t digitalised yet is lost 😑

[@colico14]

Stephen George, aka "Stevo" on drums! Ministry's progression is fascinating.

[@stephaniekirch4938]

Unreal!!!

[@oryanbegay7856]

All it needs is "Just One Fix'!!!

[@davidgonzalezcorral838]

vaya cambio tan radical que daria al jourgersen con el cambio del tiempo, menudo genio!!

[@jasondaddario5146]

I hear a similar main synth part in So-So Life to Salt-n-Pepa "push it" (1986). But a little different. Maybe it's just me hearing it?

[@RockandRollsince1992]

read his book, you will understand why he hated all of this

[@x_vidrios]

comment section has me lol hahajshjashjahs

[@НикитаКостылев-ь8к]

14:25 . Greatest intro ever! Revenge

[@assasinator1980]

16:19 are you telling me this is the same guy who says he was forced to do the album 😂😂

[@edwardbenes5015]

Ministry needs to bring back the black girl singer

[@ΑλεξανδροςΣακκασ-ρ1ν]

ΣΤΗΝ ΛΕΦΚΗ ΜΕ ΑΓΑΠΗ Ο ΑΛΕΞΗΣ 24/09/1991 20:12❤

[@rengood4270]

Vince Klark from early Depeche Mode???

[@Rothchild-j5t]

Man, Love and Rockets are great.

[@miserychordia]

looks a bit like dwayne r. goettel in the start

[@marktrudeau8512]

Pretty sure he was already a huge puppy fan at this point

[@CKT1138]

@@marktrudeau8512 Unlikely, Puppy didn't release anything properly until remission in 84. They were already a band, but outside of the 50 odd copies of the Back&Forth tape, they hadn't put anything out there

[@MarkkuKoljonenwTinja]

😎🌹 Chritine&Markku

[@KaguraTachibana]

early ministry

[@truthhurts79]

No shit dipshit!

[@davidmerlin6787]

Flock of ministry

[@ClockwiseCat]

LOL

[@sarabelleimaginary]

Please someone tell me, what kind of hat is that? Thank you 🙏🏻🖤

[@DaveCaulton]

it probably has a more popular name but i think it looks a lot like an Argentonian gaucho hat. I think ive seen a hat like that in the Westworld series too, it’s not solely an Argentinian style

[@meribrock4963]

It's called a pork pie they were popular in the 80s Molly ringwald wore one in her movie 16 candles spray at ton of aquanet then rock it all the way back

[@carteral-harlem3042]

Hey!!!

[@SniffyPoo]

he doesnt try to affect the brit accent live

[@skianddie]

They blew the Police away at the concert down the street.

[@distortech2]

Dave!!!! Aaron say : Hayel yes!!!!! :)

[@ВладиславОдинокоболезненномечт]

WHY THEY DIDN'T PLAY "STIGMATA" AT THIS SHOW???????????????????????????????????????

[@DaveCaulton]

that song was recorded about 5 years after this concert happened

[@ВладиславОдинокоболезненномечт]

@@DaveCaulton "Stigmata" was written in 1982

[@DaveCaulton]

wow, i had no idea!

[@DaveCaulton]

i had been going from wikipedia and I guess i assumed it was written in 1988 because that’s when the single for Stigmata was released. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata_(song)

[@ВладиславОдинокоболезненномечт]

@@DaveCaulton you hadn't any ideas about "Stigmata"???? It was written in 1982,all "LORAH" was written in 1982,of course.

[@kwez211]

Anybody know the line up?

[@omnicromagnon3793]

JULY 6OTH

[@kirkmarrie8060]

2020.06.26