Minn Kota Motor not Found Problem Problem

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[@robertrios9982]

Interesting issue. Good Video. Prop Clear!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@robertrios9982 thanks cap. PROP clear👍

[@demons500]

Love how you're able to diagnose and workout each problem. I would have just stood there screaming at the control panel. "IT'S RIGHT THERE!!! FOR *******************!!!"😉

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@demons500 😆 lol I almost did too

[@deepnature6117]

My brand new Minn Kota would work fine on manual mode but spot lock would not work. Motor would go crazy spinning around and back and forth and would not stay correctly in one spot until finally it would shut down out of spot lock mode. Minn Kota tech support was a waste of time. Finally took it to a certified repair center and tech took the cover off the head and found too much power cable looping around the gps receiver in the head which interfered with it receiving a proper signal from satellite. He cut the extra power cable loop out, spliced it and it has worked perfectly ever since. It was the second time for him seeing this issue and it took him forever to figure it out the first time.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@deepnature6117 Thank you, captain for the information. I am definitely gonna look at that too. And thank you for sharing

[@leversforever9748]

So that had to come the factory, right?

[@deepnature6117]

@@leversforever9748 yes, I bought it brand new with that issue

[@andrewfyakim525]

Hi Capt..... You do a great job trouble-shooting issues, taking one step at a time.... I know you will eventually find the problem, and will fix it!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@andrewfyakim525 Thanks, captain.Sometimes they are frustrating but like to say we have to get to the bottom of it.Thanks for watching and having awesome weekend captain

[@JohnDuch-k1e]

Im dreaming of the day I can afford / run a pilot house boat! Until then, I'll be on my actioncraft 1802! Tight lines captain & thank you for all of your experience & knowledge!

[@jpearson1725]

Im with you, I actually have the same Actioncraft. I do love to watch Caps adventures!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@JohnDuch-k1e Thank you both for being awesome viewers and I hope you guys can get your dream bolt.1 day, captain.And hopefully I'll see you out there😉👍⚓️

[@francus7227]

Thanks for teaching us how to chase problems. I tapped the thumbs up 👍 to feed the algorithm monsters.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@francus7227 You're awesome francus😉👍⚓️

[@christianruiz8410]

Great troubleshooting Captain. I hope this solves the problem. Good luck!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@christianruiz8410 Thank you, Christian and pretty soon.I'll be ready to head out for another fishing trip.Captain, thanks for watching.See you in the next one

[@johngranato2673]

Keep up the good work, Captain. Good luck and sail safely.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@johngranato2673 Thank you, captain.Lots of work but i'm getting the bolt shipshape

[@RalphSanabria]

Awesome video you are definitely number one. I hope everything working in order and I’m here having my cup of coffee.🇺🇸✨

[@OutOnTheReef]

@RalphSanabria Awesome Ralph That makes 2 of us.I'm having a cup of coffee now too, And have a awesome day captain thanks For watching

[@RalphSanabria]

@@OutOnTheReef thank you you as well 😄

[@davidkaye2584]

I had the same issue. I would be running and it would just shut off. Turned out to be the inline circuit breaker going from all three batteries to the motor. Took it off and everything worked fine and have not had a problem since.ill also add that I use minnkota charger.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@davidkaye2584 Thank you captain for the information very appreciated

[@tubeguiller007]

I think at least you are on the right track. Thanks for sharing super Cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@tubeguiller007 Thanks. Captain, I hope this fixed it.If it doesn't.I will go the next route.Thanks for watching

[@cityislandfish-adventures]

This is a perfect example of "Murphys Law" especially on the water. You can have brand new perfectly working gear that for some reason breaks down when you really need it. That's whyvwe must always be prepared for the worst especially at sea when things can get desperate real quick. The sea is unforgiving. My hat is off to you skipper stay safe

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@cityislandfish-adventures You are so right, captain.When you buy new things you think they're gonna work for a long time.But they break down very soon, but we need to learn to traveshot ourselves.And thank you for watching and I will see you in the next video captain

[@derrickwolter1]

Thanks for the update captain, can wait to see yall back out there!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@derrickwolter1 Thank you captain for watching and yes I can't wait to be out there again👍😉⚓️

[@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101]

Captian...please read till the end. When you have three 12 volt lifepo4 batteries in series it is imperative that they all have an equal charge. Since each battery has its own internal BMS, if one is lower than the other and the voltage of one falls below the low volt protection in the BMS the discharge mosfet will shut off with that particular battery that has the low voltage. The other two may be fine, but if any battery in the string has a discharge mosfet shutdown it will render the entire string dead. For Parallel batteries you would still have some power but reduced capacity. In series battery set ups, it will render the entire pack dead. When the system died...You may have read voltage at the trolling motor due to 2 different factors. When the low voltage protection came on it may have been under load (which will drag down voltage during use) and when the load was removed the battery BMS may have reset momentarily allowing you to read some voltage across the three. But as soon as you try to power up again the low voltage protection of the low battery kicks in again. The other way you may read voltage is that even when the discharge charge mosfet disconnects, with a multimeter there can still be ghost voltage read due to the way voltage is clamped through mosfets. it can be very misleading. The fact that you said one of your NOCO charger legs wasnt working is a huge clue and points to a very likely scenario of one battery being much lower than the others which will cut the entire string. I had three 12 volt batteries on my golf cart years ago and discovered the same thing the hard way...just like you. Except I had to push my golf cart home..lol. Since then I have been involved in various lithium batteries and learned a ton. Check my channel for some of the details on lithium batteries on boats and Golf carts. I just did a complete rewire of 920ah of Epoch batteries and Victron systems on my boat. Look for an old video regarding switching from Dakota to Epoch 36 volt golf cart batteries and why. I could probably get you an Epoch 36 volt battery with bluetooth etc. That way you would have a single battery to contend with and no series connections, less wiring, simpler charging etc as well as Bluetooth to monitor. It would be a good winter project. The only issue is fitting it in your boat. Let me know if you think one would fit. The dimension are on the Epoch batteries website for the single 36v 100ah battery.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101 woa cap this is the most explanation comment of my problem, I've read it all and I think you're a 100% right about one of them going low and giving me false info on the because of the B. MS. And thank you so much, captain for explaining this to me. It really helps me figure out my problem and you have hit it on the nail. Because after charging the system, the battery worked great.So I think the lag of charging is what made that trigger one of them.. And thank you for sharing also your channel cap it will be useful 👍 Thanks again captain

[@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101]

@@OutOnTheReef Let me know if you want to change from three 12 volt batts to a single 36 volt 100ah battery. I can likely get you one free.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101 thanks cap. Sure will cap. You are awesome

[@paulierogers2666]

Expensive equipment, which I've worked on in a manufacturing laboratory, comes equipped which circuitry which prevents the same thing from happening on sensitive, life-support electronics. I think you should install 3 separate, Voltage Displays, you can visually,monitor, while you're using the trolling motor. Most likely the engine is Kaput. Hopefully, my layman Physics lesson, helps you in your mission to reuse the expensive piece of equipment on your boat. Check the warranty to see if it is still covered for catastrophic motor winding failure. Good luck

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@paulierogers2666 Thank you, captain for the awesome information.And I definitely won't do some more research to see if that's what happened.Thank you

[@tomd.43]

When I first plugged by charger into my new minn kota Terrova I received a red light with alternating green light on Lithium battery #1. Battery #2 was flashing green which is normal operation during charge and steady green when fully charged. I then swapped leads between batteries and problem moved to the #2 battery. Wow, I have a brand new minn kota charger that is faulty. I plug into charge again and green lights on both batteries. I go fishing and troll all day come home and plug in the charger and no problem with charging the batteries. Go figure! Good luck on figuring out the problem you are having.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@tomd.43 I will. Keep an eye on it and thank you for sharing your problem. Because it helps us figure out other problems with our system. And that's something that happened to mine too. And I will keep an eye on it. If it happens again, then I'll do some more search. And thank you for your comment captain and watching

[@Steve-Jody]

I used to have battery issues all the time with keeping them charged . I said enough is enough, I replaced the charger all together and went with a single 36 V Abyss Battery trolling motor , I’ve never had any issues since. It’s amazing since the charger charges the battery when the outboard is running . Note: from 3 TM Group 31 73# ( that’s 219# of batteries) each to a single lithium that weighs only 61# ! I’d look at those chargers that charge on the fly !

[@OutOnTheReef]

@Steve-Jody Thank you, Steve for sharing your awesome information. That really helps. I will look into it, captain if my problem does not go away.

[@jeffreypinder9398]

Can you alter the particular charging banks between the batteries to see if the "suspect" failing bank moves to a different battery? Electrons are tricky! Great troubleshooting, Captain.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@jeffreypinder9398 Thank you, Jeffrey and yes, I will keep an eye on them to see if the charger does not charge him a 100% the next time, but now is working perfectly.Wait thanks for the suggestion captain

[@fastfed]

There is a Bluetooth app you can download on your phone, this will take out any remote issue. Also lithium batteries has benefits and negatives and this is one of the negatives

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@fastfed Yes, you're right, captain.They're very sensitive because of the b m s

[@JohnRaisbeck]

Good work Cap'n by deduction you discovered Lithium batteries need to be "balanced" for some sensitive equipment. Its a Lithium anomaly! Love your channel1

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@JohnRaisbeck Thank you, captain.And that makes a lot of sense.I did not know that thanks for watching

[@DeepBlueChannelCom]

CON LOS BARCOS NUNCA SE ACABAN SIEMPRE ES ALGO

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@DeepBlueChannelCom si capitan esto es un atrazo siempre

[@BeardedHardware]

Time to get a new charger. I have some issues on my pilot house. Had ac from the factory, but can never use it. Or have to be in the water. Likely gonna have to convert to different ac this year 😊

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@BeardedHardware Is generator power is the best for me captain

[@warren6172]

Sad to see this. I paid extra $ to buy and support Noco, a USA company and was hoping for a bulletproof, quality product.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@warren6172 yes noco are faulty too cap. Very sad

[@michaelnaglesaltlife]

If you want to monitor your battery pack performance and individual health, you should be using bluetooth battery shunt. A shunt is the most accurate on lithium. Amps, not volts for lithium

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@michaelnaglesaltlife Thank you, captain for the suggestion.I did not know that

[@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd]

Doe minn kota give you a means to discharge the batteries and then full charge them? Some manufacturers want the batteries excercised every so many hours. Keeps them balanced. Good vid cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd That is probably what happened.Maybe I was not charging them all full after use

[@keylargojoe62]

I got so tired of the spot lock not working right i took it off & gave it to my son! Electrical has to be perfect! If not (te jodistes!)

[@OutOnTheReef]

@keylargojoe62 is incredible cap. Sorry to hear that 😌

[@ReelGZ]

I have the same boat and was wondering what trolling motor you would recommend for me. I do love all your videos and keep up the good work Captain.

[@OutOnTheReef]

hello cap the 112 is the the right one for this boat , i have the 72 inch shaft

[@ReelGZ]

@OutOnTheReef Thank you sir and keep putting out that good content. Your awesome!!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@ReelGZ Thank you captain for being part of the channel and sure will 👍

[@DG-ig9xy]

Is there anyway to check voltage at the trolling motor to make sure its getting there?....hope its a easy fix Cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@DG-ig9xy No, captain, there's no other way that I can think of but I'll keep an eye on it.See if this happens again.This is the first time that has happened.Thanks for your suggestion and I'll keep you updated at it cap.

[@oh-brothers]

Actually you need to measure the voltage while the battery has a significant load on it.... measure voltage while heater is running to see how low the voltage goes Capt. A week battery will cause the voltage to dip low while pulling amps with the heater.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@oh-brothers Great suggestion, captain.Thank you.I did not know that

[@henryoppermann134]

The other thing is to “load” test is to use the amp probe around the cable as the battery is under load to see the rate of declination…plot it by the minute, and see if they each perform the same. I used to load test utility battery banks…the important point is to plot and see if the curves come out the same under load…also, deplete them as much as you can without going to zero…to see when they “gone up”. It will be a knee in the curve and then shut the test down. The load cells were much different size for obvious reasons but what you’re doing is correct

[@dizm100]

@@OutOnTheReef He's 100% correct you have to test while the load is applied

[@beozzie690]

Do you have all 3 of your batteries have a central connection to the bms or are all three separate with their bms. Maybe contact minn Kona about having all the batteries on a unified connection so they always remain in balance.

[@OutOnTheReef]

hello cap i have all of separate charging channel cap

[@harveykellywillis8353]

U need to test voltage while under a load. Not after load is removed. U want amp load test not voltage only

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@harveykellywillis8353 That makes us thank you captain

[@RickHornsby-ry5gr]

Mine did the same thing. It was the computer BT iPilot Head Controller

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@RickHornsby-ry5gr Thank you for sharing, captain and I'll keep an eye on that.If it happens again i'm gonna go that route

[@realaxing3258]

Question for the cap. I’m between a 19ft scout or a Yamaha Fsh. I understand the difference between both boats. My question is do you have any reservations about the Yamaha jetboats? Docking and movability are two things I come up with. I like that there is no prop for the kids. Light fishing and sandbar fun will be the intended use.

[@OutOnTheReef]

well cap outboards have a longer life and very easy maintenance compare to a inboard

[@Will-ol9lp]

Hey captain did you try to take out all batteries out of the remotes and then install new ones and see if that makes a difference. Could the brushes on the motor not working right? Good luck my friend Navigate safely

[@OutOnTheReef]

i tried the motor after charging and worked great, i will keep an eye on it cap thanks

[@fishydubsfishing6516]

Now that you got a new Yamaha On board it might be Time to get a new Minn kota

[@OutOnTheReef]

@fishydubsfishing6516 lol cap. You may be right But I will keep an eye on it to see if this will keep happening.Then I'll have to do some drastic measures.Thank you captain

[@ratfinkron5793]

great job Capt. you also can buy a load tester hook it to the battery it will tell you right away if its good or not.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@ratfinkron5793 Awesome idea, captain, I did not think of that.Thanks for your suggestion👍👍😉

[@ratfinkron5793]

you can get one cheap at Hobo Freight

[@paulierogers2666]

I just wrote a n elaborate explanation, but accidentally erased it before sending it.

[@paulierogers2666]

The law of Physics leads me to believe you have burned a motor winding out, like a fuse, because the Total cumulative voltage in your serial combination was below nominal operating voltage levels, ( e.g. 28 V )

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@paulierogers2666 This is a thirty six volt system captain

[@TrayJones832]

🎉

[@jayd1008]

you use to have the 5 amp charger .. you went with the 10 now i see... why does it work for you better ? the lower the amp the better the battery life and full complete charge .. yes higher amp will charge faster but not better ..

[@JonStensloff]

Lithiums Can take faster Charge Not like Lead acid which Like slow trickle Charge

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@jayd1008 Good point, captain and I still have my 5 AM charger.It's for my fridge batteries

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@JonStensloff Is also true captain

[@mikecosculluela8493]

Hey Cap, I'm shopping for a new electric deep drop reel. What brand and make is yours? Do you recommend?

[@OutOnTheReef]

Tanacom 1200 is the one i use cap i like it

[@melloreel]

I’m certainly not a fan of Minn Kota anymore after having 3, and some kind of problem with each one! Customer service is non existent, as without testing the motor they are just reading crap! I might be completely wrong here, but I thought MK recommends you NOT use Lithium with their trolly? Also I thought Lithium batteries needed a special charger? And last my NoCo chargers have been iffy at best. When they work they’re great, but seem to be buggy! Goodluck👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

@melloreel hello cap the noco is made for lithium charging and When I talked to minkota they did not told me that lithium was not good with her system that's wired cap

[@melloreel]

@@OutOnTheReef Yes sir! Look at their website, and I believe it will have the info. Good luck, and let us know👍🐟

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@melloreel thanks cap. Sure will 👍

[@zionmobile]

Just get a load tester at Harbor Freight for $20

[@OutOnTheReef]

thanks cap

[@kochykoo]

Man get you a battery tester that does load tests😉😉😉 their cheap. Where's my Damm pancakes 😝😝😝 you know I can work on your boat without pancakes 🤣🤣🤣

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@kochykoo lol cap . You made me laugh and sorry about the pancakes🤣👍

[@kochykoo]

@@OutOnTheReef life's to short to dwell on the crappy things in life man.

[@kochykoo]

@@OutOnTheReef you know next time your fishing use some blueberry pancakes and see what you catch just for the hell of it

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@kochykoo lol a pancake fish😁👍

[@kochykoo]

@@OutOnTheReef blueberry crab cakes

[@harveykellywillis8353]

Did u get it fixed? What was issue in the end?

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@harveykellywillis8353 Well, I charge it in way, so I'm gonna keep an eye on it.It looks like the bms are very temperamental with his batteries.If it's one lower than the other one , but I'll keep you updated , captain

[@jamesrobertson8941]

Nice video and all, but the last few mins of it, you could of just said at the start and forgot all about testing things that didn't need to be tested. You told us the issue at the end of the video, when it should of been at the start. If it's a video on how to check things, fine. If it's a video on whats happened and why it's not working. Should of just played the last minute or so of the video. Not being harsh. Just my opinion.

[@johngranato2673]

Yes, he could have done all that. But it's helpful to some folks who are not as experienced with diagnostics.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@jamesrobertson8941 Both of you have a great point it's all about the testing

[@si-sb2mx]

Many things may occur with owerpayed bs brand called mk. About the batteries in series, there is balancer. If you dont have it you have to balance with few hours in paralel, high quality Li charger, you can not count only to battery bms. All in all I am happy with my 24v battery instead of 2 x 12. And of course, very light motorguide.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@si-sb2mx You make a good point, captain, and that makes sense.Thank you for sharing You' input captain

[@randyneil6161]

You should request a full refund

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@randyneil6161 lol cap. Is too late for that 🤣