Minnesota Vikings confirm it was a two-year plan to draft a QB

Minnesota Vikings confirm it was a two-year plan at drafting quarterback in a behind-the-scenes video released by the Vikings; The similarities between JJ McCarthy and Kevin O’Connell; Dallas Turner falling to the Vikings and more observations from the Vikings draft war room videos; Mackey’s QB rankings and more on Purple Daily.
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[@Robert-og2kr]

I just want to remind everyone who was saying "trade back and pick up Penix in round 2" or "trade back, there's always a QB who falls" that it wasn't true this year. Kwesi getting JJ at #10 without giving away any 1st rounders was awesome. The Raiders stuck at #13 and all 6 quarterbacks were gone. Just because there is usually a guy who falls, doesn't mean there's always a guy who falls.

[@RM-ru3fk]

Ever since Mackey said he hates boxing I can’t look at him the same way

[@baddadjoke2197]

Thinks poker is a more exciting sport than boxing.

[@RM-ru3fk]

@@baddadjoke2197 he’s one of the dime a dozen mma guys who’s like “omg boxing is dead”, real ones know that boxing is on fire rn

[@clintonreisig]

Exciting new era in Minnesota 💜

[@bonne21]

KoC isn't an idiot, he probably had the same thoughts we did about Kirk. Like the QB for reasonable deal, but not to get held hostage by a 36 year old coming off an achilles with one career playoff win.

[@RM-ru3fk]

Nobody should ever be able to get past the one win stat. It’s shocking.

[@hivicar]

Judd, I wouldn't overthink this thing about KOC's possible resistance to 86ing Kirk. He's someone else's problem now.

[@AdrianVikingr]

Skol from Texas! Lfg #9 & #15

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

Lucky you. Skol from Cali. Long live Minnesota 🇺🇸🦅🟣🟡

[@bonne21]

Part of the problem with calling Carolina incompetent is Josh McCown was there for Bryce's rookie season. Seems like a big indictment on him. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

[@saryphx]

I didn’t know Josh McCown was the HC at Carolina…

[@redt7452]

I understand where you’re coming from but I think McCowns impact on Bryce Young that season is no where near the worry people are saying.

[@mickholohan4266]

Stop being minnesota pessimistic......

[@lynnkirk396]

I was a big time Drake Maye fan ,but I like JJ McCarthy's moxy and confidence so I think he is going to succeed .

[@8998steveo]

You know who else had really good moxy and confidence? Mac Jones

[@yolo25000]

@@8998steveo Hopefully he's better than Mac Jones, but yeah, I DO cringe when I hear terms like "moxie" and "sneaky athletic" applied to guys you're expecting to be game changers for your team. It seems like a polite way to say, he REALLY doesn't have the requisite TALENT that it takes to be a star player.

[@alexandergarnett156]

I watched the 18 minute video in the Vikings draft room. I know things can be edited, but it really seemed like top to bottom we got our guys. Save for maybe wanting Drake Maye more than JJ McCarthy. Every other pick seems to be the guy we were targeting. Knowing that this better be a GREAT draft. If it’s anything other than great Kwesi doesn’t know what he’s doing. All that to say I believe this will be a great draft.

[@robe2504]

I agree, but they probably had other guys in mind for picks like 129 and 157 that they ad to give up. I'm also curious to see what their reaction was at pick 8. Were they disappointed, or relieved when the Falcons took Penix. Personally, I was thrilled that the Falcons took Penix.

[@larryv.83]

Good show guys 😎 This is why JJ McCarthy is special: 1- Winner 2- Leader 3- Smart 4- Team 5- Coachable Result =Championship 🏆

[@cc91teg]

I think koc did want Kirk back for one more year just at a discounted rate so the rookie could sit a year

[@robe2504]

That would have been the ideal scenario - with the rookie as insurance if Kirk's injury went south. A progressing Darnold could be better than a regressing 36 year old Cousins.

[@craigsiegrist6120]

Hi, guys.Thank you for the Show I love it

[@karl2kkent]

The thing Kirk lacked; JJ has. Let the coaching staff do what they are paid to do and watch JJ have an amazing career. I have the gut feeling like I did when I called JJettas at the draft, and Addison at the draft. The kid meditates for one, it takes a special level of focus to actually successfully be able to do that. Call me crazy but I think we are in good hands.

[@wesleyblanton2432]

Judd trying not to laugh when Declan’s screen froze! Love it!

[@stuartanderson6785]

I like Drake Maye, but, man, I feel really bad for him. No way, no how should the Pats have taken him at 3 this year. The only way imo it works out in NE with Maye is if the Pats sit him for like 3 years while they build their team. They start him now and he'll break. Hell, ANYONE would break in that situation.

[@anthonyd4309]

You guys need to stop misrepresenting the Addison pick. There was no "battle" between KOC and KAM regarding that pick. KAM said he wasn't blown away by the trade offer, so they picked Addison. It was as simple as that.

[@gregpst77]

Come on Mackey. Lamar has never passed for over 3700 yards let alone 4000. Only over 3000 twice. To refer to him as a projected 4000plus yard passer is just irresponsible.

[@charlesrichard831]

Dammit!!! I know Dex is serious bout the kicking on this team and I appreciate him for it we need that but gosh dang it I can't stop laughing every time he speaks I can't help but think about the mashed potatoes/horse radish story that is the funniest damn thing I've ever heard maybe it's just cuz it's Dex 😆🤣😆

[@purplepainforums]

I got Herbert and Lawrence in the, "haven't proven a damn thing and are still overrated because of their draft status" tier. AKA the "Kirk Cousins gravitational pull toward .500" tier. I would take Jared Goff over these clowns.

[@robe2504]

I totally disagree with this notion that Kwesi has learnt from mistakes in the 2022 draft. I'd argue that Kwesi and KOC ave had an integrated strategy from day 1 about how they would/could use the draft and FA over the last 3 years to refresh the roster. Kwesi inherited a negative salary cap with a number of aging players on bloated contracts. He had to try and draft volume in 2022 to infuse some youth and speed into the roster, because he couldn't buy it in via FA. He spent 2022 and 2023 exiting the bad contracts, and adding some high value low cost FAs. Kwesi was unlucky to have injuries de-rail the progression of Cine, Booth and Asamoah - so we didn't see the contributions from them that Kwesi and KOC were hoping for. Kwesi had engineered enough cap space leading into this offseason to flip FA to provide the foundation and use his draft picks on specific high ceiling players. I'd argue that this was his plan all along. In fact I remember posting comments in 2022 suggesting that Kwesi would likely try and replace Kirk and Hunter in the 2024 draft, because it would be their earliest opportunity to get out of those contracts, and potentially have the roster stable enough to use future picks to trade up for a QB. I'd argue that if Kwesi had not been able to sign Greenard, AVG, Cashman, Griffin etc in FA - he would have traded back for more picks to try and build that foundation through the draft - nothing to do with "learning from is mistakes" at all. If the coaches gave up on players as quickly as fans the Vikes would have cut Metellus two years ago. Give up on Cine, Booth and Asamoah at your own risk.

[@rickmeisch643]

What is this team going to do if Darnald has a very good year in 24-25 and is strong quarterback? You in my book keep McCarthy on the shelf and go certainly another three years with Darnald !

[@yolo25000]

I agree. If Darnold has a phenomenal year, keep JJ on the bench to learn. He's only 21, right? If Darnold proves it wasn't a fluke and does it again, those are great dilemmas to have.

[@robe2504]

Great to see someone else who appreciates the possibilities.

[@charlesrichard831]

Coach Staley in the Vikings game was clueless totally over his head and i think he literally just left Herbert to fend for himself that was 100% the Justin Herbert Show and he absolutely, single-handedly shredded the Vikings if you actually watch it he embarrassed us.

[@charlesrichard831]

@@thetrevorsimpson-u8o BUT...we didn't win and we didn't win any games to start last season we were embarrassed literally ever game to start that last season it was a constant calamity of errors did you watch the games

[@charlesrichard831]

@@thetrevorsimpson-u8o 40-47 405 yards for Herbert and 18 for 215 from Allen that's embarrassing got torched at our own game and Herbert had a coach that's now bagging groceries

[@charlesrichard831]

@@thetrevorsimpson-u8o 40-47 405 for Herbert and 18 for 215 for Allen that's the definition of embarrassed he beat us at our own game with a HC that's now bagging groceries.

[@DerrickRG]

​@@thetrevorsimpson-u8oThat's a lot of ifs you got there.

[@charlesrichard831]

@@thetrevorsimpson-u8o hahaha okay if it wasn't for Herbert putting up that performance we would have blown the Chargers out they have a terrible defense zero running game it was literally all Herbert all day and we couldn't stop it

[@jameslyon163]

I think JJ is going to be Kirk or ponder. He ran a simple offense at Michigan and was not asked to win games like the other first round QBs. If he is a noble version of Kirk it’s fine and we can win games

[@robe2504]

I dunno, I watched a bunch of Michigan games, and that team really wasn't that good, and arguably inferior to several other teams, but McCarthy did what they needed to win so often.

[@firstnamelastname4216]

The bigger difference between 2022 and 2024 is that 2022's draft class was really weak, so it made sense to say "All of these guys are a coin flip, let's get as many as we can". The talent in the 2024 draft was a lot younger and better defined. Add in the increased experience in the role and the comfort with the roster and coaching, and it feels more like a difference in situation than a difference in strategy or attitude or philosophy. Kwesi's still going to be open to trading back if it makes sense in future drafts.

[@nilathxayavong6057]

Yo dallas turner is a BEAST! like the top defensive player in the draft class.... yea How the F did we pull it off...

[@miamisasquatch]

I'm calling my shot: JJ becomes a perennial top 5 QB

[@curtwoods6278]

Why is everything hopefully with ya'll, can ya'll just sound positive. The guy going be successful. 💩! A podcast packer fan gave if all positive notes, not 1 thing negative, not a hopefully, maybe. We'll see, nothing but praise's.

[@DerrickRG]

KFAN exists.

[@davidwelsh5206]

Jordan Addison will be the next Chris Carter

[@ditdotdit]

I would feel better if the Vikings had drafted another WR because i dont trust the justin jefferson saga not becoming an issue and im tired of players holding this team hostage until their demands are met. Kirk did it ...Diggs did it...Hockenson did it... You are already making tons of money just play football.

[@yolo25000]

I'm beginning to think that even ATLANTA had intel that the Vikings wanted Penix. Why not screw the team that accused you of tampering. They didn't take JJ did they? And JJ was tabbed as high as 3rd or 4th by some of the so-called experts.

[@robe2504]

I think it's more likely that they expect to lose their 2025 1st, so this was the best chance for them to take a successor to Kirk.

[@yolo25000]

@@robe2504 I doubt if they lose their first. I'm not even sure if they're getting punished at all, unless I missed something.

[@robe2504]

@@yolo25000 The Falcons and Eagles tampering is on the agenda at the owners meeting this week. It has not gone away.

[@deannaguin8096]

I bet kwesi is waiting on the best package to trade jefferson .................. I think jefferson thinks he entitled to a fully guaranteed contract and vikings are saying NO !!!!!!!!!!!

[@VikesForLifeTark]

So all those times Judd said Kwesi didn't have a plan...was wrong lmao

[@michaele.woodwick4089]

I don’t recall Judd saying Kwesi didn’t have a plan; heard him questioning what the plan was.

[@VikesForLifeTark]

@@michaele.woodwick4089 seems like I can't link the episode here, but skort North channel March 19th 2022. Judd says Kwesi doesn't have a plan of his own and says he seems like he's in over his head. Mind you this was in 2022, since then he has "questioned" Kwesi as you put it but in reality never thought he had a plan to begin with. Now it's full circle.

[@scottmielke4071]

Kirk signed his 1 year extension AFTER free agency opened in 2023. Due to rules of the NFL CBA, he isn't allowed to sign another contract with the Vikings for MORE money, within 365 days of his last signing. This GUARANTEED he would hit free agency, one year prior to doing so. Kirk, KoC, and Kwesi knew these rules when they agreed to it. Not sure how you guys continue to miss us screaming it in the comments.

[@paulgiardetti1579]

According to sportac he signed in 2022 not 2023, adding the extra yr in 2023, then in 2023 the Vikings converted the signing bonus, that allowed them to,add 2 void yrs, that accounting didn’t need his approval to do that.

[@TristanandIsolt]

Bo Nix is the starter at Denver. Not Stidham. Stidham won't have a job come August.

[@kevinmontgomery29]

This is going to be a Montana/Young Era

[@rogereastman3187]

The way you guys run with hearsay is so funny....JJ will be a very good quarterback in a couple years....number 11 will be just fine

[@StormFalcon657]

JJ McCarthy sightings at OTAs 👀

[@yap1hong]

Have I missed it, or is PD deliberately avoiding analysing Sam Darnold? Don’t die-hard OBID (Once Before I Die) Vike fans deserve at least o-n-e episode about Darnold from you guys including the usual SN experts like Boone, Thor etc? C’mon guys, u guys are supposed to offer comprehensive coverage of my one-and-only Purple warriors…Singapore Joe.

[@yolo25000]

I still believe that PENIX is who KOC really wanted, although he was willing to settle for McCarthy. When he talked with Pat McAfee about accuracy being the most important thing and McAfee said "so you want Penix then?" KOCs face said it all. Also, when the Falcons took Penix, the look on several faces in the room were more than just shock. The Drake Maye "interest" was a Vikings smokescreen to keep him from falling and to allow Penix to fall in their lap. Atlanta spoiled the plans, but like I said, they were prepared to roll with their second option in case of an unexpected event.

[@YaBummyTaMe]

I said the same thing from the jump

[@LittleIggy2010]

Penix has bad Knees No Thanks!!!!!

[@yolo25000]

@@LittleIggy2010 Well, his "bad knees" ( it was only ONE, injured twice) are no longer a concern for you now, unless you're a Falcons fan....

[@hungdinh9292]

You guys love Larmar and he can’t get past the first round.

[@yolo25000]

He's been in the AFC championship.....?? Are you a casual fan?

[@ericcooper1859]

Dak should be in the Kirk tier

[@randyn2396]

Lamar Jackson should have a ring. His receivers screwed him over in the AFC Championship game. One in particular.

[@vikingjerome2438]

Lets Go Baby 2024!!! 💜

[@hueyang5943]

Fix that oline and there's Superbowl👍

[@garethphillips534]

1-6 all AFC QBs, am shocked Mackey has Stroud ranked below 9th… Goff is better than Dak.

[@MixtapeMagic]

Once again, Mackey isn't convinced that JJ is the real deal. Amazing to see how much his attitude towards JJ has completely changed since draft night. "He might be the next Tim Tebow", "he might be an epic bust". Man, talk about bandwagon. Sounds like Mackey would rather cheer for that green & gold team from Wisconsin......or maybe go back to Seattle?

[@kody6921]

He just a negative a$$hole without a spine. Always has been.

[@kyle_alexander1227]

Throwing out every possible scenario is a problem for you amd considered "bandwagon." Turn off KZbin, social media, etc. It'll help with not being a nitwit

[@wantonswagbip]

I think thats what makes his role here, playing devils advocate in every sitch

[@MixtapeMagic]

@kyle_alexander1227 You're missing the point my guy. Mackey had a massive boner for JJ on draft night, and ever since then, nearly every word out of his mouth about the kid has been doom and gloom. Who's the nitwit? I'd say Mackey is.

[@EllijahMcniel-y9t]

J.J. is super mid. It is what it is...

[@robe2504]

I stopped watching this show 2 years ago because this show was unerringly negative. Giving it another go because Mackey has finally got, not one, but two "mobile" QBs.

[@jeffaltier5582]

Prescott is at least 10 spots too high.

[@daleboylen6427]

Where;s the criticism for Jefferson not attending OTA's? Kirk got Phil's wrath for taking the league mandatory TUESDAYS off, got slammed by Phil for NOT showing up to workout with receivers in Florida during the OFF SEASON, and slammed for not being at OTA's. Jefferson can do no wrong though. Who need timing with not one, but TWO new QB's? Not JJ.

[@DerrickRG]

You're comparing apples to grenades.

[@yolo25000]

Comparing bananas and grapes.

[@saryphx]

Because Jefferson didn’t go to VOLUNTARY OTA’s?

[@daleboylen6427]

@@saryphx Where's the "He's a team LEADER"? "He should lead by example"? TJ Hockenson is there. INJURED, but there. JJ? Nopers.

[@daleboylen6427]

@@yolo25000 Hardly. Where's the "He's a team LEADER"? "He should lead by example"? TJ Hockenson is there. INJURED, but there. JJ? Nopers. if it were Cousins, you folks would be all over his ass.

[@stevensmith5784]

I could literally care less about everyone else. I just want more LDR content. Everyone else can go play football. Lol

[@discgolf2479]

“Pre-massage”

[@saingrimes]

JJ may turn out to be what we need him to be. Just remember, he was the 4th option for a franchise QB for this team. Herbert, Daniels, Maye, and then JJ!

[@WayneSchmitz-u7n]

Kwesi sold future picks to save his butt this year. He needed to have two wins (JJ and Dallas) to save his hide for the last two years. Addison is his only win in the two previous drafts.

[@matthiason9495]

How is Lamar #2??? He's horrible in the Playoffs

[@brokentubing]

The Detroit Lions love your teams plan

[@DerrickRG]

The Minnesota Vikings love the Detroit Lions going full 2018 Vikings with the Goff extension.

[@brokentubing]

@@DerrickRG The difference is Goff played in 9 playoff games - one Super Bowl, and two NFC Championships and won more playoff games than all 9 of the Vikings' recent QBs.

[@joshuat7171]

No, they don’t. They are also very aware the Packers just reloaded and will have a difficult time beating them. The Bears have to prove it but they have loads of talent. The Lions are soon to be cellar dwellers again.

[@brokentubing]

@@joshuat7171 Is a two-year plan smart for you? The Lions have proved it! So have the Vikings that being 'mid' is all your owners want. You won't pay Jefferson and two years from now you'd be forced to start all over again. The Vikings have made it so that 3rd place is the lowest any of the three real teams in the North can go for a decade. I'm just taking jabs at you for pity not because you're any problem.

[@joshuat7171]

@@brokentubing You sound ridiculous. The Vikings are gonna pay Jefferson. Addison is a stud. Better than Jameson Williams by a wide margin. Hockenson is a reliable target. I’d take Laportas age and salary over him though. McCarthy has a chance to be an elite QB under KOC and Tom Brady(yep, Brady’s been coaching him). Vikings defense is looking good and we got the best defensive coach in football in BFlo.

[@bonne21]

Mackey is way too low on Caleb Williams. Having him below Wilson, Watson, Carr, DJ is outrageous.

[@Valhalla-Bound]

Until he plays real nfl snaps, he’s not better than any of those guys. Maybe he throws a pick first play and cries his way to third string. We don’t know.

[@firesabers]

Dude hasn't taken a snap yet.....

[@mnrondo]

Drake Maye is new Aaron Rodgers and JJ is new Brady

[@brokentubing]

🤣🤣 Go Lions

[@Razorbacks1]

I guess you’re kidding about McCarthy and Brady comparisons lol 😂

[@mnrondo]

@@Razorbacks1 I’m not saying he’ll win 7 rings or become the GOAT but I’m saying he’ll be to MN what Brady was to NE and Maye will be what Rodgers was to GB

[@Razorbacks1]

I just remember when Mac Jones led Bama to a naty and he had better passing stats than McCarthy and was mobile and great against pressure with a great arm and everyone thought he would be the next Brady. Vikes fans are starving for a new qb who can lead us to the promised land and are quick to latch on to McCarthy. I get it, but let’s pump the brakes on JJ until we see him throw passes in the NFL. Maybe he will be great but maybe he will be a bust. We’ll see ….

[@yolo25000]

​@@mnrondo7:22 Maye will be a BUST

[@franknorth164]

I am not saying JJ is fake, never met the kid. But the whole meditation under the goal post thing sure as hell comes off as contrived.

[@mikeandtraceygowdy3988]

He started doing it after the pandemic because of depression, he's made it part of his routine, nothing contrived about it

[@franknorth164]

@@mikeandtraceygowdy3988 because under a goal post so everyone can see you isn’t trying to get noticed. Right…. Contrived af

[@modlerjeancharles9637]

It’s is. I see Patrick Mahomes does the same thing pregame it just comes off a little weird but to each it’s own.

[@electricpuddle1320]

​@franknorth164 do you honestly care that much?? If he wins us football games i highly doubt it matters at all

[@franknorth164]

@@electricpuddle1320 are you saying no one can point out an oddity about a player because why? You can’t fking handle it? Grow the F up. I mentioned it is contrived maneuver designed to get attention. And your panties get bunched because “how dare you” Sycophants are going to KA.

[@StillKeepOnLosing]

"An offensive system tailored towards me".... Dobbs and Hall thought that too... RIP. Wont be long till KOC cry Kirk Cousins.

[@3rdeye403]

Oh we have a kirk meat rider. 😂

[@StillKeepOnLosing]

@@3rdeye403 Nope, you can ask my stalkers on here how I think of Kirk lmfao

[@joshuat7171]

@@3rdeye403 I think you nailed it!

[@ryandonovan5205]

Minnesota is gonna have a top 5 pick in 25 so if JJ don't work out can try again