The Death of HELLDIVERS 2

[@MintBlitz]

UPDATE - SONY HAS GIVEN UP ON THE ACCOUNT LINKING DEMOCRACY PREVAILS

[@numenthehuman]

Say less

[@pizzaplanetalien5079]

Bruh do you report anything positive? 😑 it’s tiring seeing negative videos

[@OrionDawn15]

@@pizzaplanetalien5079 Maybe they should give Mint something positive to report then.

[@guadalupe8589]

​@@pizzaplanetalien5079he's reported LOTS of positive reviews, especially if 343 or Microsoft have done a positive move. You new around here?

[@MintBlitz]

@@guadalupe8589bro I get called a shill for being too positive, I’m screwed either way 😂

[@mostannoyingdiscorduser]

Sony has ruined the unruinable

[@IgnusFast]

Ubisoft makes an art of ruining things; maybe they're an inspiration for Sony?

[@FakeAdirTV]

"i blame robtop" Nah i legit thought you were robtop for a second 😭

[@Maj-SHIPWRECKED]

Hell divers fans getting the Halo experience and its barely been a year 😂. Maybe Halo + Helldivers really are linked. Years of “343 why the fucking hell did you / Microsoft think this was a good idea”

[@nicholasstensson9699]

Companies try not to ruin video games challenge: impossible

[@BOTTLEMAN-dl6rh]

no they be on hell dive difficulty

[@monobiteme6014]

@@BOTTLEMAN-dl6rh literally

[@AspieMemoires]

CEO’s and leads in these places have the largest ego’s imaginable making it hard to tell them they are wrong. Even when they are? They can’t admit it. Narcissism is a hell of a personality disorder.

[@BetaBreaking]

​@@AspieMemoiresnarcissism runs deep in the corporate world, so does sociopathic behavior. These guys don't care, as long as it doesn't mess with their bottom line unfortunately

[@AspieMemoires]

@@BetaBreaking Amen to that.

[@cordedquill4286]

You know it's bad when the developers tell you to leave negative reviews on their own product.

[@youngc570]

I'm doing my part!

[@paulclark6988]

Because even arrowhead knows it's the voice of the consumers that matter we doing our part in their game world, WE MUST DO OUR PART NOW

[@rysheikigarrett]

No it’s not, that means there open to fixing issues.

[@reincarN8ed]

I'm doing my part!

[@devinfleenor3188]

They took a review bomb and turned it into a major order.

[@EbagStudios]

These big companies really just can’t let the devs do their thing.

[@Aether-Entropy]

Publishers truly are a plight on developers.

[@side7oldtype298]

All these publishers had to do is to just collect their cut from the product's profit and leave. No need to whip the devs and dictate them what they should do. Just shut up, take the money, and walk out of the door.

[@michalcos8207]

Atleast Sony will learn from it's mistakes

[@thatbants7134]

@@michalcos8207 Lol, we have no reason to believe that yet.

[@michalcos8207]

@@thatbants7134 oh yeah lol

[@DJ88Masterchief]

NEW MAJOR ORDER: FUCK SONY EDIT: MAJOR ORDER COMPLETE!

[@TerryD5000]

this F SONY and honestly im close to saying F steam too for not protecting us from trash like this. sony is been a joke for the last 10 years and we are all sick of it.

[@LexYeen]

I'm doing my part!

[@Pandnn216]

*unzips pants* *To reveal a spartan laser*

[@callumward7503]

Not fuck sony. Sue em Sue Sony for breach of Consumer protection law Misrepresentation Breach of conduct And also International Trade Regulations (According to your country)

[@sarge4285]

Hohoho I plan to do my fucking part

[@ogTherge]

Sony, your greed is showing.

[@spockamania]

Patrick voice: WHERE?!

[@-chase-]

It's been showing for years

[@Szvyy0]

Like it hasn't, I paid 500 dollars for a console, the game, and Internet yet they expect us to pay 60$ a year just to play online

[@abrahamlincoln3872]

Microsoft has started doing this years ago 🤣

[@abrahamlincoln3872]

​@@Szvyy0you can blame Microsoft for that too, since day one on the 360 you've had to pay for online, sony and nintendo just followed

[@Vantud391]

Now it's your chance, Microsoft! Make Helljumpers!😂

[@DESTY-N7]

Microsoft only do gamepass nothing more

[@Ryukkii]

"We hear you! , We're making a """free"""toplay battle royale PVP only!" - X box

[@xtranathor8143]

Filled with crappy microtransaction bloat. Halo Infinite is already a joke; I don't want to see more of that

[@DESTY-N7]

@@xtranathor8143 😂 helldivers IS what Infinite IS not... Helldivers has been better in a month than whole Infinite begining

[@xtranathor8143]

@@DESTY-N7 I know, and it's glorious! We wish the Halo franchise had something as good with a model that was designed for the players and not the wallets

[@celestialspartan1176]

I’m a Halo fan who wanted to play Helldivers 2. But, thanks to Sony, all I’m gonna say is this. “Helljumpers, standing down.”

[@Glacial_floofs]

"hellju- hel- ODS- hel- ODST de- helljum- OD" average halo wars experience

[@SpartanJackC-082]

YOU SAID THIS ON ANOTHER VIDEO BOY.

[@londonlynch4631]

​@@Glacial_floofsbrooo fr 🤣

[@251spartan]

@@Glacial_floofs Cutter is my fav commander to use, love to hear that line XD

[@Glacial_floofs]

@@251spartan mine would be the prof. I love spamming hawks

[@MullerLetLoose]

Im about to do a Johnny Silverhand. F**king Corpos

[@fluffsmythos]

Gonna need to get some preem uranuim-235 choom

[@furrydegenarate]

hell yea

[@kabob0077]

4:34 So the MAJORITY of HD2's player numbers are from PC... Sounds like Sony really screwed themselves.

[@falkens_maze]

The thing is, millions of people bought this game and like 1/6th of the players even bothered enough to go leave a review. There is no way to tell how much people actually cared about the Sony requirement. Yet all these KZbin creators and whatever are acting like the majority of people didn't want it. I think the majority didn't even give a sh*t.

[@kabob0077]

@@falkens_maze Cope more, Pony.

[@georgewright9223]

Gaming rn seems like 1 step forwards, 2 steps backwards... Kinda like 343's whole mission statement LOL

[@jasperhorne]

Triple A continues to make massive missteps while indie games are really hitting all the right notes

[@Samuel_Loegan]

Same with Destiny 2 and Overwatch 2?

[@IntrusiveThoughts838]

@@jasperhorneyou do know Helldivers is a indie game right?

[@charleystello1822]

@@IntrusiveThoughts838 published by sony, literally against the definition of indie

[@IvanIvanovv]

@@IntrusiveThoughts838absolutely not 💀

[@kabob0077]

2:39 Upper Management is utterly moronic, they should have NO SAY in what games get made.

[@AKIRA-oz5cg]

all they care about is money. in any business structure the higher up the totem pole u go. the disconnect gets bigger and bigger. Most of the time the people calling the shots haven’t even played the game they are effecting all they care about is if it’s making them money or not.

[@ZarHakkar]

​@@AKIRA-oz5cgall they have to do to make money is just leave a good thing alone Valve understands this but so many other massive companies just don't

[@Agent-57]

​@@AKIRA-oz5cgBut this is a stupid move to lock customers out. At this point they might as well burn the money

[@TehCakeIzALie1]

@@AKIRA-oz5cg Sure, but the actual competent businessmen are never in upper management. It's strictly nth generation wealth who don't have to worry about being financially intelligent because they're already too rich to lose money.

[@MegaMaster1021]

It's so obvious Sony is doing this just to please shareholders about growth with the PSN accounts, but it's like dude isn't the consistent support of the game good enough ? Is Sony really expecting people to put all their trust with their data when they have experience seven data breaches, pathetic company

[@King0nyx]

It has to do with exponential growth. Profits, numbers, sales, etc. all have to be going up otherwise it's not worthwhile for companies. It's not about the customer, it's not about making an actual quality product, it's literally only about "line go up 👨‍💼📈"

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

​@@King0nyx Then they make these extremely "line go down" causing decisions. I completely understand that business is not a charity, but that only counts for anything if they aren't being stupid about it.

[@King0nyx]

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem oh well of course, but they never take responsibility for it. It always becomes "Am I the one who's out of touch? No it's the customer that is wrong", then they just move on to the next IP, studio, etc. and repeat the process.

[@LexYeen]

​@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystemwatch sony's tax writeoffs, is what I'm gonna say.

[@BetaBreaking]

​​@@King0nyxEA is so fucking notorious for fucking over so many super talented studios because upper management and their bottomline demanded they change something. It's exactly why I hate Sony and especially Nintendo so much. They'll incorporate so many anti-consumer business practices. The general public is none the wiser but gamers know that they're being shafted, either with constant rerelease of the same product or keeping prices for games the same for several years... *COUGH* *COUGH* *nintendo*

[@DeadEyes63]

Democracy dies when corporations interfere Edit: I was wrong we all collectively said no and won

[@RyanYewell]

I live in Rwanda. Gifted Helldivers 2 to a friend here on Steam. He had hundreds of hours on it. Loves the game, and is PISSED. Essentially the game becomes a digital paperweight soon for him. He won't be playing if Sony sticks to their guns. Currently trying to get a refund. He's told me total number of concurrent online players has taken a huge hit. I can understand why.

[@za7304]

So wack unfair for international gamers

[@Aurora-313]

I was planning on buying it to play with my siblings. It seemed a marriage between all my favourite elements of Destiny, Borderlands and Halo. Certainly not buying it anymore.

[@MajorCrits404]

Bros, new update came out, Sony will be backing out of their decision

[@penguinjay]

@@MajorCrits404 and how long until they try to screw you again? Have some principles man!

[@charlesb8]

Being from Rwanda, your English Grammer is perfect.

[@antimetricsystem]

Sony had to ruin the one game I was looking forward to playing

[@DESTY-N7]

Im gonna buy it and play it i don't care about people crying

[@IntrusiveThoughts838]

@@DESTY-N7I mean maybe you should look into what it is

[@halodude4481]

@@DESTY-N7lol go ahead the grownups are talking

[@ScottyBoy-id6tk]

@halodude4481 damn bro u rlly told him

[@DESTY-N7]

@@IntrusiveThoughts838 i know what it is and its not a big deal

[@NickTemperistic]

This reminds me when Overwatch 2 came out and for a bit they required everyone to not only have a Battle Net account but also verify a phone number for all console players too

[@iwatchtoomuchyt9281]

Except Overwatch 2 wasn't even a good game to begin with

[@NickTemperistic]

@@iwatchtoomuchyt9281 I mean I still enjoyed the gameplay as a tank main but it definitely didn't feel as good as the first.

[@HunterStiles651]

@@NickTemperistic 1st of all: Of course you had fun as a *tank* main. Tanks are literally just objectively superior DPS characters in OW2. 2: EOMM. Look into it. Blizzard Activision has played you for a god damn fool. A lot of people have been played for fools by this system. Myself included.

[@woketacha6112]

not just a phone number, a phone plan Verizon or bell. if you're using cricket, the game basically pulls a "Can I be a hero?" "Eew no, you're too poor!"

[@NickTemperistic]

@@woketacha6112 Ya that sucks but then I just say hey ok I'll go play your competitors game instead haha

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

Setting the expectation at launch is the biggest problem here then retroactively going back. There are practical ones too like playstation not available in some regions of the world, making the game they bought unplayable now which is a big deal. Genuine concerns as well. Sony has been hacked and had customer data leaked in huge swaths like a dozen actual times in the last 10 years! People are waking up to how valuable their data is and how little its protected and cared about by companies. Sony just want to brag to shareholders how their account # has grown and introduce potential customers to the Sony ecosystem. Nobody running these companies are actual gamers. They are so disconnected from what their customer base is and wants.

[@BugLondon]

You can access playstation network from anywhere. They don't care about your geolocation and you don't need a vpn. Sony support outright tells filipino users to create accounts for hong kong .

[@CDZRDragon]

We won against the tyranny of Sony but our fight still lives on against corporate greed

[@penguinjay]

yall forced their hand, on one thing. They will try scummy crap again in a matter of weeks. If you would still support sony bc they did the right thing when they were literally forced to, then you are a simpleton.

[@numenthehuman]

FOR DEMOCRACY, FOR FREEDOM FROM SONY

[@TAGfrost]

They didn't give up, they're now restricting sales in countries that don't have PSN. Seems to me they just don't want to have players that are in restricted PSN areas play their games anymore.

[@nicholasshealy9040]

People blaming Arrowhead for Helldivers 2’s downfall are the same people blaming 343i for Infinite’s downfall. The developers aren’t at fault, it’s the corporations. Sony and Microsoft, respectively. EDIT: Gotta love all these tone deaf responses I’m getting in the comments.

[@MintBlitz]

Always has been the corpo suits, always will be.

[@thatoneswarmdrone6409]

343 is partly to blame though. Arrowhead does a good job with game direction for the most part and properly implements player feedback. 343 have decimated Halos identity on a gameplay and story front in an attempt to one up Bungie. Microsoft hardly controls those aspects.

[@Scapegoat32]

Let's not forget Arrowhead partnered with Sony, knew that this was coming and still chose to sell to players in countries that don't have PSN availability. They might not bare most of the fault, but they aren't exactly Innocent either.

[@iamthemusicman13]

@@Scapegoat32 EXACTLY SCAPEGOAT, ARROWHEAD LED PEOPLE WITH LIES>l people r dumb if they think arrowhead are innocent

[@gizmo366]

​@@thatoneswarmdrone6409🤓

[@AgentStone5]

it must be that damn automatons behind this to bleed super earth of helldivers

[@MintBlitz]

Pure Bot Propaganda

[@better-shotgun]

The Automatons have stopped Super Earth from launching more Super Destroyers. They have given a month for all Helldivers to bend to the whims, and give them our military intelligence, or get disconnected from Super Earth. We will not stand for this. I’m doing my part, I’ve joined the Helldiver anti-PSN coalition called “Steam”. ONLY YOU CAN STOP THE ENEMY AND CONTINUE THE SPEND OF DEMOCRACY! The Helldivers are not to be fucked with.

[@Vamera930]

Im sorry , im sick andbtired of all this corporate bullcrap with having mebforced to use a third party account connection to play something i bought on a platform i choose to play on. I choose Steam because its my platform of choice not PS5. Not only that but for 3months! The need for any connectivity was waived. So whats the problem. Just keep it the way it is. Soo until than lvl57 Lady of Mercy signing off.

[@CargoShorts7]

And it blows my mind even more because Sony and Arrowhead were already making money out the wazoo with how crazy successful Helldivers 2 has been… but corporate greed always finds a way to reach for more and ruin it in the process smh

[@wheezer5038]

capitalism is very undemocratic of sony

[@LexYeen]

last two words in that sentence are extraneous btw

[@Bagginsess]

The free ability of anyone to engage in the market as opposed to a nobleman/elite is undemocratic? I may heavily dislike democracy, in favor of a republic, but you'd have to be a fool to say capitalism is undemocratic.

[@Thorgon-Cross]

@@Bagginsess Just FYI Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive, most Democracies are Republics, such as the USA.

[@ZarHakkar]

​@@Bagginsessit's undemocratic when the system is rigged and all you are presented with are false choices For example, "buying" a product such as a game where your access to it can be revoked at any time

[@juliuscaesar4882]

@@ZarHakkar You vote with your money. It's all written in license agrements. If you don't read them - shame on you. If it violates said agreement - you go to court.

[@samturner6061]

Things they could have done: Give a free cape or armour set or someth when you connect your account to steam. Leave it as optional, but remove crossplay function without logging into PSN. Make PSN accounts available in as many regions as possible. Make players have to create a unique name ingame rather than just using their steam username, and store it on Arrowhead's end, then they can ban people easier, instead of making everyone have to make a PSN account (which requires a unique username) and use that in the game. Don't sell the game to people in regions PSN accounts are unavailable. They basically said 'Yo basically we don't care about any of you or whatever just give us your details if you don't you can never play the game again.'

[@PhoenixFox5577]

Not only this but the fact that they decided since people were saying that “ThE pLaNeTs ArE sO bArReN” They DOUBLED the amount of Patrols on each planet. Basically saying SCREW YOU SOLO PLAYERS!

[@moment-of-glory]

And lowered super credit drop rates

[@SRP379]

I never played Helldivers 2, and maybe I never will... Yet all of this just makes me really sad. Why they keep murdering the good things we have?

[@asaasaas2416]

To make way for something else that will replace it

[@FaZaFurhod]

4:54 I'm surprised no one in the comments section has said this yet, but making a PsN account was a requirement from the start but they made it temporarily optional because of all of the server issues the game had in the beginning. now that it's been ironed out, they are making it a requirement again.

[@NeputuniaNepp]

Then why did they allow the selling of the game in countries that can’t make a PSN account?

[@FaZaFurhod]

@@NeputuniaNepp I have no idea. Sony should be providing an answer for that.

[@Levi_Ackerman_005]

@@FaZaFurhod 4:37 I'm surprised you don't consider this, it WAS on their website, and then SUDDENLY changed 4:41 (mind you this was changed yesterday, today or a couple of days ago).... therefore your point is invalid. If it was truly a "requirement" people wouldn't have been able to play from the get-go. For three months straight, it was proven that linking an account is not necessary, why? Because the game played fine without it. Therefore.... your point is invalid, again.

[@FaZaFurhod]

@@Levi_Ackerman_005 alright I've responded to your comment twice, once on mobile and once on desktop but it looks like for some reason my comments are posting. just putting this here in case it all of a sudden pops up

[@NicUnveiled]

it’s just a reminder that the people who allow these games to happen (suits) that they don’t play video games,, they just know there’s a business in em

[@DavidTMSN]

They don't need to be video game players themselves to not make bonehead decision. They should have their ear to the ground via liaisons or whatever to know that this was a mistake. Which leads me to believe it was deliberate. Everyone's assuming it's greed. What if it's not?

[@NicUnveiled]

@@DavidTMSN couldn’t disagree more look at the halo show to the fallout show IMO producers never played the games apparently YET fallout printed files straight from the game the difference between their fan base reactions and steam games rising sales speaks volumes i respect your opinion tho

[@DavidTMSN]

@@NicUnveiled There's no way this is chalked up to greed, solely. There's ulterior motives at play. They want to control what games are popular and which games people play.

[@zealouspg5079]

A new threat has ariesn. One that calls every helldiver to liberate the very world they liberate.

[@willwunsche6940]

I still remember the nightmare of the PS3 databreaches 😂. Regardless of Sony's intentions with this, good, bad or neutral (I can easily think of a likely scenario for all three), I think it's clear the people want it reverted

[@penguinjay]

even once reverted, people should abandon it. Sony just proved they are awful, and we are simply counting down the days until they try something else awful again. If you think supporting awful practice with your dollars is a smart move, you deserve whatever you get.

[@Steven-093]

I didn’t know Sony has continued to have major data “leaks”.. that’s actually telling of something else. If it’s continued to happen then we are being conditioned to expect it. And once we get used to it, it will become a standard. These aren’t data breaches. These are intentional. They gotta be

[@plastered_crab]

Nah mate they just have shit security

[@Steven-093]

@@plastered_crab Oooooooooo. Damn, you’d think a multinational corporation could afford better security. Or even create one, they have so many assets.

[@DuckAlertBeats]

How would it being intentional make *any* sense though?

[@CtKEngage]

A key detail people are glossing over though is PSN's only breach happened in 2011 and the rest has been in other sectors. Playstation is now more of a cash cow than ever so I doubt even at this point they're willing to jeopardize it with a data breach. I'm more concerned with the players that would be cut off from the game because they live in a region where they don't have access to PSN, not the rest of the PC player base now whining because they have to use a PSN account now. It was kept from being mandatory and was listed on the steam page before it even launched.

[@marceelino]

​@@Steven-093Japanese company. They are not very good.

[@GlitchyGamers18]

Arrowhead probably said what they said in the steam page because they’re forced to. Sony makes them implement a PlayStation account but arrowhead can’t just just say what they truly think otherwise it probably won’t go down well, so they’re forced to cover Sony.

[@Postpar]

If you’re super concerned about security, you can just make a new account with a new email and a fake name. That doesn’t really help people in the regions where you can’t make a PlayStation account though.

[@rattled6732]

It has been an honor everyone

[@chase7972]

I’m loving Helldivers 2 so much right now. So much fun.

[@NoVideolnput]

I'm glad we have evidence of them changing the text on their website as an attempt to gaslight us into thinking it was always required to have a PSN account.

[@markelllashaud4717]

Victory is ours helldivers but stay vigilante

[@momsaccount4033]

Guys. I think higher executives, don’t actually play video games

[@shatteredsentient5321]

They had a successful live service like they were crying for. Now they axed it.😂

[@minthiha8445]

this is the worst death yet😢

[@Klimawandel20]

GUYS! sony retreated! the mandatory psn account doesnt come! please dont forget to change your review back to positive! :) thank you

[@GravitasZero]

Don’t forget, Arrowhead chose the publisher, just saying

[@wlady_xd1449]

Ye but there is a contract they cant change or remove

[@dvsat12]

thats like telling a chef “they picked the restaurant just sayin” how does that make them responsible for this they just make the game.

[@TheHammerofDissidence]

@@dvsat12 Their CEO actually admitted to knowing this was going to happen for months ahead of this change. They were well aware of this.

[@dvsat12]

​@@TheHammerofDissidence literally right after he explains " we do not handle selling of the game" because arrowhead develops the game. They play with the cards they are dealt.

[@Thefirefan15]

4:58 this was required from the start, they allowed it to be optional because of server issues.

[@adaptcap115]

Mr Krab won’t sink greedy practice really low like Sony.

[@Theleochan]

For everyone worried about the playstation account thing, just make a poo poo email you don't care about and use that.

[@stormwolf8770]

there are rumors that people have been banned for that. I would not recommend it

[@The_Cranky_Painter]

I had already tapped out of Helldivers when I realized it had Kernel-level anticheat. That's an automatic no from me. But now seeing that Sony wants to force people to make accounts? Talk about doubling down a hard pass.

[@onatgz]

while security concerns and psn not being available world wide are huge and valid points, it's not even about that. you can't change the rules after the purchase. that's not how trading works. never has been. we've agreed upon this as a species thousands of years ago.

[@joelpetrauskas9731]

Correct

[@admiralmallard7500]

Technically they didnt, as it was listed on the steam page before all this that youd need a 3rd party account

[@onatgz]

@@admiralmallard7500 but the thing is, i didn't. even if it said so, i was able to play the game. they can't just say "do this or gtfo." after the purchase. doesn't matter what "this" is.

[@admiralmallard7500]

@@onatgz Well yes for the regions where it will make the game unplayable id argue its a serious issue.

[@onatgz]

@@admiralmallard7500 no no, please don't get me wrong. i get that it's a HUGE issue. but even if psn were available world-wide, i still see this as changing rules mid-game. that's my first concern. that's like the headline for me. the availability, while being as big an issue (if not even bigger), is the subheading.

[@cybersoldierforever]

Oh Sony. What have you done?

[@zealot4043]

105 thousand people are playing right now on steam, i think the game will live on, what does suck is that people wont be able to play ):

[@Dubst3pFriki17]

------------- ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ -------------- GLORIOUS VICTORY

[@Atlasstock]

Sorry, but Arrowhead isnt completely blameless in this. Ceo recently said on discord that the decision to not include the PSN accounts at launch was his idea

[@isaiahs675]

Because he did that it reached way more people he isn't at fault

[@MrSevrix]

Good info and length, cheers mate once again!

[@questionableman3855]

God…Nintendo forcing Garry’s Mod to remove 20 years of content And now this!? SONY RUINING HELLDIVERS?!

[@GoldBean2752]

I have more respect for the Tarkov Devs than Sony and any AAA studio at this point. It's sad.

[@ijustsawthat]

Sony Japan woke up on Monday like " What the hell are you guys doing? Revert! "

[@lastofchristianbyzantineem4935]

Yeah they messed up real quick 😢😢now I won't buy Helldivers 2 on steam because of that now I rather play halo and other games.

[@AnnaCurser]

that makes me so sad. even for those who make or have an account, the game loses so much of their playerbase. so many lobbies to jump into and people that join you randomly. for the last two days i havent had aaaanybody randomly join my missions. and now i know why.

[@iratepirate3896]

Did everyone just forget the massive Sony hacks?

Louise rossman said this: If im not allowed to refound after 2hours, why are you allowed to change the TOS after 2 hours?

[@jrums96]

I think I might be missing something but I had to log into my Sony account when I bought the game on steam about a month ago. Apparently that was optional? I'm really struggling to see what the big deal is here. There's so many games that do this sort of thing I'm not sure what makes this any different. It's a little inconvenient, sure, but the game is good enough to justify 3min of my time. The Sony security breaches were news to me, that's somewhat concerning. But overall I kinda feel like this is getting blown out of proportion. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, it's possible I'm ignorant to the bigger picture.

[@BOTTLEMAN-dl6rh]

some players in different regions of the world don't have access to make a PsN account in turn we're gonna lose a lot of helldivers

[@jrums96]

​@@BOTTLEMAN-dl6rhyou are absolutely correct. I forgot about this. It seems to be the only "major" downside of this entire thing, though. All the other complaints sound pretty minor. I do completely agree that locking a significant portion of the playerbase out of the game just cause they don't live in a supported region is really bad for the game. Not a good look on Sony at all.

[@CharlotteGamesMC]

RIP Helldivers 2 2024-2024

[@UnicornT1D]

I was planning on buying a PC just for helldivers 2, and have been avoided videos of it like it's the plague, but I'll have to hold off on buying a PC until Sony reverts, or at least compromises on this decision. Hate to see another amazing game fall to greed.

[@rapatouille]

if y'all cancel your PS+ subscriptions maybe Sony will start to mind

[@znake_]

I was reluctant to get on the band waggon, BECAUSE of the steam store saying "requires a third party account linking (or whatever)" but my friend literally shared his screen on discord, and showed me a video how you can skip it. I then bought the game with the understanding that the account linking was optional. Then proceeded to play till level 65, and bought 3 copies. With this rollout, imma be locked from the game, because I originally switched from ps4 to pc because of the security breaches. Not getting into that shit again.

[@MrPerson052]

Spony is making Microsoft look good

[@DustedTaint]

Naw 120k on at 7 am it’s not dead nor will it die. Halo could only hope to have numbers like this.

[@atlien1988]

Almost everything about this is silly. First, there wouldn't be any backlash if the game required a PSN account at release. Secondly, you can create a dummy email account & use that for the PSN account.

[@k90v85]

but it didnt require one at release

[@Spendingryan]

Kinda poor planning to not think about pc players living in psn-unavailable regions, insane.

[@john51551]

I mean I get it but I’m pretty sure there’s still a player base on PS5 so I don’t think it means “death”

[@Nobleheart111]

No, but massive reduction in player base.

[@kittymacflufficans6703]

And we need every helldiver to complete major orders

[@davidburk4546]

3:39 that’s not a catch-22, but I take your point.

[@Rainmanix]

Thanks for sharing

[@lambdachi107-gamingandmusi2]

Just recently looked at the store page of Starship Troopers: Extermination. There's a bunch of recent reviews poking fun at HD2's misfortune. My favorite one calling on the former Helldivers to enlist with the U.C.F and "fight for your true earth."

[@tallas12]

RIP the most fun I've had playing a game in a while.

[@habibi8964]

Lmao yall are so dramatic 😂

[@just_some_greek_dude]

There are tons of indie you can play that don't require online

[@guillermowinthorpe450]

The thing about business decisions is that the company is obviously trying to make as much money as possible. However, with every decision, it has good and bad effects. The problem with modern game companies is that they’re so out of touch with the community, they’re incapable of predicting what a certain decision will do to their company. In this case, their money pig is no more. This game absolutely printed money when it came out and they just ruined that.

[@semiramisubw4864]

time for MS and 343 to make an ODST spinoff that is quite similar with firefight

[@thegrapethief5514]

The funny thing is that this and other decisions like it aren’t even about profits. It’s about the insane and utterly absurd rules that the stock market follows. If the company is more successful than they predicted then somehow that means, according to the stock market, they don’t understand their own company, and the stock price drops. All that matters to the shareholders is the APPEARANCE of success and what will make the stock price rise enough that they can sell their shares and leave immediately. And companies are, for some stupid reason, legally obligated to make decisions that benefit their stock prices rather than actually making them money because they will get in serious legal trouble if they’re perceived as doing things that they know will not benefit their shareholders. Companies hardly even benefit directly off of stock sales anyways, it’s all about the shareholders and that’s why they make decisions like these.

[@AbbyRawks]

So, you realise we've needed an Xbox/MS account to play Halo on PC since MCC right? It literally prompts you to sign in to your MS account when you boot the game for the first time. How is this such a big deal? This sounds like such massive hypocrisy coming from a Halo fan who plays the PC version.

[@miguelvina7188]

Umm… yeah. I wondered why they freaked out too. Theres no Pass requirement in PC :/

[@k90v85]

because that was always required

[@MyActualThoughts]

Apparently Steam is approving refunds if you submit a ticket. That speaks much louder than only a negative review.

[@jasperhorne]

If Sony & the devs region locked the game, this news wouldn't be such as massive crash and burn.

[@TheCptFROGGY]

Unfortunately, the game has received over 150,000 negative reviews in just a few days, and this has caused significant damage to its reputation. Even if Arrowhead and Sony reverse their decision, I believe that the trust factor has already vanished. Apparently, Steam have refunded users who have spent a considerable amount of time playing the game. Great video by the way. Cheerio, THE CPT FROGGY

[@Japhox45]

See. My only issue with this is. Every PC gamer has like 100 accounts already. Between steam, epic, ubisoft, battle net. Outside of place that dont have psn. I dont see what the issue is. Tbf i have a ps5 thou. And signed into my sony account the moment i started the game.

[@thewrighttools8592]

There is no major grieving problem in this game. you can mute mics and block players. This is not a pvp game, there isn't that competitive rage factor, it's all about team work. most people in games are your best bros.

[@doxthafox1138]

You don't f'around with the PC community. They'll cut you down in a heartbeat, when taken advantage of.

[@Ovverflown]

Thank you for explaining why this is a problem because I didn’t quite understand at first why so many people were up in arms about having to connect a PSN account

[@danisalinas8042]

😭

[@BmikroB]

I'm just speechless. I couldn't even think Sony would be able to mess things up so much. Like, wow I'm literally shocked.

[@ZK9931]

Corps are just love to fuck with players

[@DrBusiness9]

The graphic of Sony as the illuminate is so hilarious

[@danielsan9850]

Signing into a PSN account is now considered ruining a game? I'm sorry, but it doesn't even take one minute to sign into an account and call it day, yet babies on Twitter and Reddit are throwing a fit and complaining about nothing.

[@JumpierNewt8956]

Did you not hear about the fact that some regions don't have the PlayStation network and make it impossible for some to make an account and thus making them unable to play the game after they have been playing it for all this time? Or how about the security problems that comes with the Playstation network? I know it sounds crazy but if you actually listen to what people are saying and not just write a comment without watching the video you can form an actual educated opinion instead of just reading a headline and forming your opinion on a mere sentence.

[@danielsan9850]

@@JumpierNewt8956 every third party studio requires you to sign into their client on Steam. Xbox does it; so does Epic, Ubisoft, EA and many more that I can’t remember off the top of my head. This is nothing new. I don’t know why y’all suddenly up in your panties when PlayStation does the same thing. And FYI, I did watch the video in its entirety and was able to form an opinion that not everyone may agree with it. At least I’m able to come up with my own opinions and not just blindly agree with whatever the popular take is on the front of r/gaming is… like you so clearly displayed.

[@JumpierNewt8956]

@@danielsan9850 You don't know why people are getting mad? It's clear why people are getting mad. When the game came out anyone could play it without a PSN account and it was fine. Now that they require it and tons of people are not going to be able to play the game anymore because of the country that they live in. How would that not make people mad? How would being forced to give your information to a network that has a history of security problems to play the game you already bought not make people mad? These are the reasons people are so mad, I don't know why you can't seem to understand them. But I guess it might just be part of your opinion to ignore the valid reasons the people are upset and choose to believe it is a simple "too lazy to make a new account" problem. And I'm sorry that my opinion of " players and games getting fucked over by multi million dollar companies is bad" is not a unique enough opinion.

[@k90v85]

​@@danielsan9850if they did it on launch itd be fine

[@danielsan9850]

@@JumpierNewt8956 idk why you’re turning this “non-issue” into such a big deal. And who cares if someone can’t play the game anymore? How does that affect your life in anyway? Unless you live in one of these countries, it’s not a big deal. People will go find something else to play. Remember, this is just a video game. Try not to take it so seriously

[@nickkohlmann]

I'm doing my part! By informing friends about it and leaving a negative review that contains a link to this video.

[@HossDaddy206]

This is so overblown and it’s a huge reach for Xbox players to say that this is the death of this game.

[@MintBlitz]

The goal is to put pressure onto Sony to back down. Everyone wants the game to succeed.

[@andrewmccrory1235]

I'm not making a PSN account. I looked into it yesterday out of curiosity and now on new account signups Sony ALSO require one of three methods of "verification" in order to allow you to sign up. This is: Your personal phone number, an IMAGE of your photo ID or Passport...you tie that in with the fact that Sony have major security and data breaches...absolutely will not be making a PSN account. I really hope this decision is reversed, not just for me but for people in the countries that don't have access to the PSN network. Helldivers 2 is such a great game but I won't be a part of corporate greed by Sony. This truly sucks :( Completely agree with your video by the way you've hit the nail on the head

[@nyarancia]

It's insane to me that people love a game enough to rage about it online, make videos etc., but not enough to make a simple Playstation account in 5 minutes to keep playing the game they love. Should this be a thing Sony is requiring? Absolutely not, I get it, it's dumb and predatory. But I swear PC players are so weirdly entitled to Steam AND ONLY Steam and act like they're losing a limb if they have to even think about making an account on any other platform.

[@jrums96]

I totally agree. Bottom line is if you like the game enough then making an account isn't going to kill you. Not to mention a lot of PC players probably already have an account from back in the day anyway. I struggle to see why this is such a huge deal. I highly doubt this will be "The downfall of Helldivers 2" or whatever. The game is simply too fun not to enjoy due so such a minor inconvenience. I rarely disagree with Mint on stuff like this but I'm having a hard time seeing it his way on this one.

[@agunabanana3422]

PSN is not available in every country so even if i wanted to the website wont even let me type anything. Also they ban people using VPN so yeah were just lazy i guess

[@nyarancia]

@@agunabanana3422 If true that's awful and a very valid reason that I had no idea about. But my comment is clearly aimed at people who have an entitlement complex with Steam and refuse to use other services even if they're easily able to

[@jrums96]

​@@agunabanana3422 This is a completely legitimate issue. Being region locked out of a game that you paid money for should not be allowed. I wish the video focused more on this issue instead of inconvenience and data privacy.

[@k90v85]

​@@jrums96they even sell region specific steam codes in regions its not allowed

[@originalityisdead.9513]

It's not getting any better either. The game looks like it's had it. I wish they would remove that "DRM" its way too invasive.

[@jfitz6517]

Yeah I think you’re right, they did this to boost shareholders’ take away. If they don’t change course & HellDivers 2 plummets, I could also see Sony blaming the game (saying it’s not popular anymore) & cutting funding, rather than admitting their mistake.

[@justsaynei]

Does anyone know of a legally blind one armed five year old with CEO dreams? I'm certain they'll do better than these big CEOs we're currently dealing with here.