Easy Off Grid Backup Solar Using 2 Anker Solix F3800s

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Minute Man Prep

Minute Man Prep

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@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Complete solar kits: poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ 200w Solar panel for F3800: shrsl.com/4pghr EMP Shield: www.empshield.com/?coupon=minutemanprep FREE Solar Generator Comparison Chart: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pUgG1ldofSyOaz6EMD3WDhw80cQlcCvKsU58EEgbBjE/edit?usp=sharing
@letstravelsandadventures8326
@letstravelsandadventures8326 Ай бұрын
I just want to buy the solar panels by themselves as I have 2 f3800. What’s the price for the panels? Trying to max out solar input for those units but it’s very confusing. Looking to buy next 2 weeks.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
@@letstravelsandadventures8326 shrsl.com/4pgia these are the solar panels. If you go to my website you can see the wiring diagrams for the different options in the extra pictures here: poweredportablesolar.com/product/f3800-kits/.
@namename1
@namename1 Ай бұрын
Is there emp for solar Roof i have another question can you use your ecoflow delta 3 for example as a car battery replace?
@1drhnsd1
@1drhnsd1 12 күн бұрын
For the “200 watt panel for f3800” listing - is that two 100 watt panels or two 200 watt panels - or?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep 12 күн бұрын
@@1drhnsd1 200w
@davidr3431
@davidr3431 Ай бұрын
EXPANSION BATTERY TEST, YES PLEASE!!!!
@chrisk9351
@chrisk9351 Ай бұрын
Really like those units, just wish they hadn't crippled the solar input on them. For that unit, I wished they at least could've matched the DP Ultra input.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I agree. Even if it was just two 150v 15a mppts they would've been way better off with 3.2 kW of input. I like to see around 5 kW of input on a system.
@DeFiDuke
@DeFiDuke Ай бұрын
​@@minutemanprepI don't think solar was a priority since these are built to primarily accept grid power and use AI to screw the power company out of their greedy schemes to charge more during peak hours which is unethical and illegal in my opinion..
@amartins02
@amartins02 Ай бұрын
That’s why returned them. Not enough solar input. Better off with the ecoflow.
@airon89toyota
@airon89toyota Ай бұрын
​@@amartins02I've got two delta pro ultras and they work great.
@defjamsgreen
@defjamsgreen 21 күн бұрын
EXPANSION BATTERIES ARE A MUST . MAY THE SOLAR BE WITH YOU .👍
@ChalkChasing
@ChalkChasing Ай бұрын
Can you do a video showing how you installed the EMP shield on your car?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
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@namzat000
@namzat000 Ай бұрын
Expansion battery vid please
@michaeldezelar6264
@michaeldezelar6264 Ай бұрын
The 50 amp hub for EcoFlow DPUs will also do some load balancing. I have it running my house connected to the L14-50 on the hub, and when I had a 15 amp (3600W) load connected to the L14-30 on one of the DPUs, it took power in from the hub through the in/out cable to balance the load.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
That's awesome! Thank you for sharing that. I haven't bought a second DPU yet to test that so I will test that when I can.
@unijabnx2000
@unijabnx2000 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.. ive been trying find any information on ecoflows 50amp hub, I cant even find a manual on ecoflows website about how the hub works or what it can do.
@airon89toyota
@airon89toyota Ай бұрын
​@@unijabnx2000yeah, when I researched mine I couldn't find anything. I've since purchased one and two delta pro ultras. They work great. The 50amp hub doesn't share power but it shares the load. If one DPU is a higher battery percentage it'll draw more power than the other.
@unijabnx2000
@unijabnx2000 Ай бұрын
been odd that they dont sell the hub on amazon by itself...
@unijabnx2000
@unijabnx2000 9 күн бұрын
about a week after this comment... i found the hub listed on amazon for sale
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 Ай бұрын
Maybe I’m wrong, but in my offgrid don’t need high wattage and the F3800 does just fine. How I address the solar input issue is with an AOlithium 51.2v 100ah server battery. It not only gives me 5000 added watt hours but also accepts my solar inputs. It’s not as restrictive as the F3800’s input criteria. And the battery plus the 40 amp charger were only $1100 US.
@LarryRichelli
@LarryRichelli 2 күн бұрын
How do you connect this battery to the F3800 and what 40 amp charger did you buy. Thanks
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 2 күн бұрын
I created a cable that splices in the 51.2v 30 amp LiTime dc charger and an XT60 connector that goes into the F3800.
@daviddarnell8898
@daviddarnell8898 Ай бұрын
Instead of Anker expansion batteries. Get 48 volt batteries and a charger that works with the solar panels you already have. Then connect the 48 vdc battery to the solar inputs on the Anker.
@GeoFry3
@GeoFry3 Ай бұрын
My experience with the smaller C1000 model, the DC input is great in a synch, but it was too anemic. It only worked well as a more passive recharge method. Solar to make last longer, or vehicle DC to charge while driving down the road. I ended up using AC off my small solar setup to charge the battery during the day and run my fridge. At the end of the solar day, the system batties kept the Anker topped off until they ran out roughly 6-8 hours later. Afterwards the Anker took care of things till morning. While that is not the most efficient setup, it let me use a 100ft regular extension cord to transfer power from my shed to the house. The other quirky thing about the Anker is if it is AC charging and providing AC output, it will pull your charge rate + the AC load from the AC source. Tripped 1000w inverter a few times before I understood that. 200w charge rate + 200w load = 400w draw. It would be nice if it would just let you charge what it is set at and just let the battery draw down as needed without the additional bump from the source. Like it does with a DC source.
@arnoldreiter435
@arnoldreiter435 Ай бұрын
i have one of these mainly to power my well pump. a single unit that has split phase 240, 6k inverter and can be charged with a 110 ac outlet are all things that appealed to me. i have 2, 415w bifacials to provide charging but i also can charge with an ac circuit from another solar system i have. now that i wont be using my well to water my garden and lawn i plan on using this as a supplement to my house system on the upcoming short winter days here in Montana.
@jaminoes_
@jaminoes_ 3 күн бұрын
EXPANSION please. ESPECIALLY with those EG4 that I see peeking behind your back. 🙂
@Barc7580
@Barc7580 Ай бұрын
I've been watching other videos about hooking a 24v battery to connectors like XT60 and plugging them into the PV ports of a solar generator. I'm curious if there is a way to use one or more 48v rack mount batteries, and charging them with your excess solar panels during the day, and then plug them into the F3800 solar ports after the sun goes down to extend the F3800 batteries. Maybe set up an on-off-on switch into the F3800's with inputs from your solar panels by day and rack mount batteries after the sun goes down. Could provide a much better way of providing excess power instead of relying on the Anker expansion batteries that need to be recharged via the F3800 solar input.
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 Ай бұрын
The 51.2v 100ah lifepo4 batteries are a perfect expansion /solar manager for the F3800 and you get 5000wh for only around a $1000. And uncut your solar input limitations. I transfer dc power from the server battery continuously through 10 gauge wire harness into the xt60 ports on the F3800. If I need a short term higher load and don’t want to chance those xt60 wires, I unplug the connector into the F3800 and let her rip.
@Barc7580
@Barc7580 Ай бұрын
Just thinking about this a little more, having an mppt charge controller hooked to the 48v battery rack lets you bypass the PV limitations on the F3800. Add an EG4 ChargeVerter hooked to a 240v 30amp outlet from a generator inlet box, and now you have a way to keep everything charged up on those cloudy days.
@BigSil57
@BigSil57 Ай бұрын
Interested in more details on the solar panel arrangement. Panel info and how they're hooked up.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Just to clarify, are you asking about how they are wired into the F3800s specifically?
@BigSil57
@BigSil57 Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep yes. I want to max out the solar inputs, but have had the same issues trying to find panels that match the input voltages. How many in series and parallel?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
@@BigSil57 They are specifically these 200w panels: shrsl.com/4pghr. You can put two of them together in series to be above 32v. You can connect up to three groups together, with 2 panels in each group. This is called a 2S3P configuration. That's 1,200w per input, 2,400w total. The max input is 2,400w. This is the only way I've found to get the full input on the F3800s.
@JoshuaGay
@JoshuaGay Ай бұрын
Expansion. Also I'd love to see your comparison of the hysolis units against the Anker Solix X1 the new wall units they have created.
@Witcherworks
@Witcherworks Ай бұрын
This was the video I needed to see to get a Anker before the sale goes out! Thank you so much! Expansion!!!!!!
@deronoi
@deronoi 14 күн бұрын
Did you measure the surge power of the Double Power Hub? I need 66A LRA and it is unclear to me if it can deliver.
@brucefreeman5207
@brucefreeman5207 Ай бұрын
Great job with this very informative video. I'm interested in seeing the expansion battery test.
@TheFarmFlyer
@TheFarmFlyer Ай бұрын
Great video on the hub connection! Question: On the F3800 have you figured out what size battery pack in inside the unit? What Amp Hour size and voltage is going to the inverter?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
it's an 80ah battery pack at 48v.
@LarryRichelli
@LarryRichelli 2 күн бұрын
You did not tell us what size that breaker is form the Anker. I would imagine it is 50amp and my big question is, how do you run your whole house from one 50 amp breaker and why does no one talk about amps?
@tedsandlin6345
@tedsandlin6345 Ай бұрын
I have this Anker solix for my home backup and am having trouble figuring out the solar panels for charging. i looked at the 200 watt panels on the link but really the amps and volts really get me lost. can you tell me how many panels i need and what configuration for the max input for solar. Sorry Im not smart in this area. I would like to set up the panels on an RV and use the anker as my battery backup. thank you fantastic viedo Ted
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Hey Ted, glad to help. You can put up to 12 200w panels on each F3800. It must be done using these panels: poweredportablesolar.com/product/rigid-200w-solar-panel/ and you have to have them in 6 groups. There are two solar inputs, each solar input gets three groups. Each group has two panels. So on each solar you have a 2s3p configuration (2 panels in series, 3 groups of panels). You will also need two sets of long solar cables (poweredportablesolar.com/product/100ft-pv-connector-cable/). 4 Sets of short solar cables (poweredportablesolar.com/product/15ft-pv-connector-cable/). And two sets of 3 to 1 branch connectors (poweredportablesolar.com/product/3-way-pv-connector-branch-connector/). If you don't have high amp solar adapters you'll need two of these as well (poweredportablesolar.com/product/xt60-to-mc4-adapter/).
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Ай бұрын
7:38 Do you have a video on how you mounted those solar panels in the back? (Far Right) What kind of rack are you using? It looks NICE!!!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I have a video coming out about it. That ground mount is tiltable for different times of the year. I love it.
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep I can't wait to see the video, it looks Awesome
@ElliottAbraham
@ElliottAbraham Ай бұрын
Great video. I have a single F3800 with expansion battery currently. My HOA won't allow us to install solar arrays like you have. However, I'm thinking a portable ground mounted system would be able to pass muster. Do you think the 400watt panels from poweredportablesolar would work? I'm looking for rigid panels that can supply the maximum 1600watts per Anker for rigid setups.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
The legs will work with any rigid frame solar panel. I would highly recommend these 200w panels: instead of the 400w panels (shrsl.com/4pjzq). Then if you visit here: poweredportablesolar.com/product/f3800-kits/ you can see the different wiring diagrams I made to get maximum solar input.
@GregoryCarrier
@GregoryCarrier Ай бұрын
1st priority: Which (ac hybrid?) system can create a mini-grid so my pre-existing grid-tied PV will run? Secondary: Would be nice to have TOU option to charge batteries during my free nighttime, but use solar and battery during my doubled day rate. Due to costs for 1 and 2, I may need to restrict to 1.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
No Time of Use (TOU) available from my understanding. You cannot use grid tied panels with a solar generator. They only let in DC power through the solar port. You could technically input 240v on some units from grid tied panels but you'd have to directly go from the panels to the unit, or use a 240v outlet.
@BillyBobDingledorf
@BillyBobDingledorf Ай бұрын
Be wary of their Terms of Service: Per section 17, any disputes are "governed by the laws of the People's Republic of China". If a dispute arises, it will be done "in accordance with the rules of the Shenzhen International Arbitration Court". "The language of the arbitration shall be Chinese." and "The place of arbitration shall be Shenzhen, China." In section 18. They can update the ToS at any time and the ToS "shall be deemed effective upon the sending by us of an email". They can put whatever [insert unimaginable terms here] they want and you have preemptively agreed to them.
@djrtime1398
@djrtime1398 Ай бұрын
@@BillyBobDingledorf that’s why I bought from Home Depot. 30 day returns. I will be exercising these units to see if there are any defects in those 30 days. Sometimes ya just gotta roll the dice.
@PhongNguyen-ov7jq
@PhongNguyen-ov7jq Ай бұрын
At 13:33 on the video, you said that one should be able to connect all 4 XT60 ports of the 2 F3800 to enjoy solar charging with up to 4 sets of solar arrays. While this is true, if you plan to use a gas generator to drive an AC to DC inverter source (like an EG4 Chargeverter) to recharge via the XT60 ports, without the DPH, you can charge all 4 XT60 ports with just 2 EG4 Chargeverters because each of the XT60 port on 2 separate F3800s can share common ground. But now with the DPH, the 2 XT60 ports on 1 F3800 are now connected in parallel with the other 2 XT60 ports on the other F3800. That means that you'll now need 4 separate DC inverter sources (instead of just 2) to drive all 4 XT60 ports if the 2 F3800s are connected together with the DPH. At least this is what I hear from a user (Alan Myers) who owns a DPH from the Facebook F3800 user group. Is this something you can verify to see if it's true?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Very interesting. To make sure I understand, he says you can use a chargerverter, attach four XT60 connectors to the output, and then charge at 48v dc power from the chargeverter to all four solar inputs?
@user82938
@user82938 Ай бұрын
Yeah, when these first came out, I was amazed that they made the input requirements so terrible. Took it out of consideration for me.
@clarencewiles963
@clarencewiles963 Ай бұрын
No information on EMP In your notes below?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
My bad. The link is there now.
@tronziebit
@tronziebit 28 күн бұрын
Can you share the solar setup/parts list needed to max one F3800 to 2400watts? Diagram as well, cables, parallel or serial? And also looking forward for the expansion batteries video. Thanks!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep 28 күн бұрын
You can find the diagram info here: poweredportablesolar.com/product/f3800-kits/. If you already have the F3800 then you'll need a number of extra components that we usually include in our kits. I'm happy to help with that if you need.
@BenjiBuyorTry
@BenjiBuyorTry 8 күн бұрын
Hey! I’ve watched this video an unhealthy amount of times as I build out my Dual F3800 system. Do you ever discuss your Crypto Mining experience?
@rcguymike
@rcguymike Ай бұрын
DPU has an SOC balance feature when plugged into SHP2
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
That is correct. I guess in my mind I was referring to not needing a smart home panel to get balancing.
@jamesmoore7106
@jamesmoore7106 Ай бұрын
It’s nice to have batteries in your house but when you have no incoming electricity and say it’s a severely cloudy week or two what are you doing when those batteries run out fire up the gas generator
@steveothetruthseeker1754
@steveothetruthseeker1754 Ай бұрын
Yes I have a small cheap gas generator (£400) that will charge the solar generator in an hour or so
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
That is true. That is one thing I forgot to mention in the video is that you cannot be outputting 240v while inputting 120v. So if you have to charge from a gas generator then you have to turn off/unplug any 240v output first.
@RobertYonng
@RobertYonng Ай бұрын
Doesn’t the home panel do the same balancing act?
@duckthis17
@duckthis17 17 күн бұрын
Wow lots of great info. Wonder if I should hold off buying a unit, in hopes that Anker will fix the solar charging issue. I subscribed. Expansion......
@joshuamorin2762
@joshuamorin2762 Ай бұрын
Cool stuff but $8,300 for that setup just hurts. Generac propane home stand by generator at 14,000 watts goes for $4,900. Fuel stays stable unlike gasoline and it's so clean that maintenance is next to zero annual cost. I'd love an Anker setup but battery expense just isn't there yet. Hopefully in the future it'll make more sense.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Fair enough.
@sandralo628
@sandralo628 Ай бұрын
I have the same transfer switch set up as you. I noticed you plugged into the wire connecting two units. But if I have just one unit, it does show we have the nama 50amp plug to connect from battery to wall. Am I able to connect just one unit to have 6,000W to the house?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
yes
@juanfreile6662
@juanfreile6662 25 күн бұрын
I have two units plus an expansion battery on each. But hooked up together unused, and not feeding power to my home, they lost 30% of power just being on over 2 days. Looks like they lose power just from being connected as a pair 😢
@stacyhazelwood4033
@stacyhazelwood4033 Ай бұрын
Do you still run your cabin with the same old Titan solar generator? I know you did that for a year or so a few years ago.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I do not use the Titan at my cabin anymore, but it was working without any issues after 4 years of non-stop use when I retired it. I upgraded to a 6000XP off grid inverter with two 14.3kwh wall batteries. I have a video in production for that. I went from 3kw output, 2kw input, and 10 kwh battery to 6kw output, 4.8kw input, and 28.6 kwh of battery.
@serotta5384
@serotta5384 Ай бұрын
It was my understanding (from Anker website) that pass thru charging did not work when utilizing the 240 volt / 50 amp output? Thanks for the video and any assistance.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Correct. No 120v input while outputting 240v. I also noticed that if Unit A has solar charging it up, it won't pass that energy over to Unit B through the hub.
@jonathanbooth9468
@jonathanbooth9468 Ай бұрын
Having both units paired and plugged into the main panel, is that 50 amps going in?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Yes, 240v 50a to my main electrical panel. That's 12 kW of power.
@mrct309
@mrct309 Ай бұрын
whats the max continuous watts one unit can pull for 1 leg in 120/240v split phase mode? is it 3000 watts?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
yes, great question.
@MikePizzolatt
@MikePizzolatt Ай бұрын
what would 2-F3800's plus the parallel cable plus the solar panel's to charge both in a day cost?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
You can find options here: poweredportablesolar.com/product/f3800-kits/
@pamelashippey835
@pamelashippey835 Ай бұрын
Expansion please
@juanmedinar20
@juanmedinar20 Ай бұрын
I am looking a set of panels to be connected in series and the Voc during winter would put at 61V max. Do you have any ideas on how to restrict them to 60v max? thanks
@PrestoMoto02
@PrestoMoto02 Ай бұрын
I was contemplating buying an expansion battery for mine or just buying a second one I think you answered my question 😅
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I definitely recommend a couple of extra batteries for a setup like this
@DeFiDuke
@DeFiDuke Ай бұрын
Expansion. Guess what I don't need your oupes m2 anymore. I'll be getting one of these instead. 😊
@kg1800
@kg1800 Ай бұрын
Expansion, definitely!
@superspeeder
@superspeeder Ай бұрын
2400W of solar input is not a lot if you plan to run off-grid. Limited solar input is the biggest issue with some of these mid sized solar generators.
@OneLadyHeritage
@OneLadyHeritage Ай бұрын
Wait, what about the apollos? I am trying to make a decision on them for high power needs. So which system would you choose?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I am working on an entire video about the Apollo, Delta Pro Ultra, F3800, Delta Pro 3, Mango, and other larger units. My personal favorite is the Apollo and I currently run them full time at my home. This video was simply focused on the F3800 setup. All of these kits are much more affordable than if you get them from the manufacturer and you still get the same customer service and warranty coverage, but you also get lifetime support from me and my staff as well as support the channel: poweredportablesolar.com/product/hysolis-apollo-5k-kits/.
@RandallSoong-pp7ih
@RandallSoong-pp7ih Ай бұрын
Excellent! Thank you! Expansion
@JeremiahMcintosh
@JeremiahMcintosh 15 күн бұрын
Have you had any issues connecting the double power hub on the newest firmware update? I just got a second unit and the power hub and on version 2.1.5 but cannot get it to work. They sent me another PowerHub thinking that was the problem and it does not work either and I can’t figure it out. When I turn the double power hub on it acts like everything is working in the app, but it shuts itself off after 30 seconds and there is no power output?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep 15 күн бұрын
Dang that sucks. I haven't had that issue. I updated all of the firmware before connecting the hub for the first time and it has worked for me.
@JeremiahMcintosh
@JeremiahMcintosh 15 күн бұрын
@@minutemanprepok thanks for the reply. They also told me and the manual says that the units themselves will not output power while the double power hub is connected and turned on but I see in your video Yours does? Does yours double power hub turn on and stay on even when not connected the power hub to your home?
@cabrydon
@cabrydon Күн бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh I also read the same info in the manual. It says when the hub is active, the AC ports on the units are disabled. His testing indicates otherwise. @minutemanprep Can you confirm that what you tested was not as specified by Anker? I'm not sure it matters too much, but as I'm considering a second unit, I'd like to fully consider the details of the potential use cases.
@anthonydixon1559
@anthonydixon1559 Ай бұрын
I would like to run something like that in my rv with the solar panels......would that be possible?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Yes, you just need to use the right solar panels to get the solar input you need. (poweredportablesolar.com/product/f3800-kits/)
@ajfoskett8826
@ajfoskett8826 Ай бұрын
Can you grid charge or generator charge while these units are parallel running like this? If so, 120 or 240 only?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I forogot to go over that in the video. You can only input 120v power (grid or generator) if you're not using 240v. If you're using 240v, there's no AC input capability. There's not 240v input either so you can't output and input 240v at the same time. It's a big drawback that I forgot to go over. I have another video coming out soon comparing the F3800 to the other top contenders and I'll be going over that.
@ajfoskett8826
@ajfoskett8826 Ай бұрын
@minutemanprep thanks for the quick response! I have been watching a lot of your videos lately on all of your setups. I particularly liked the oupes mega 5 setup with the victron split phase 240 step up. Keep on putting videos out, the information is helping me and others make decisions on becoming off grid or disaster ready.
@lindahansen9395
@lindahansen9395 Ай бұрын
Expansion video please
@rochellevandriel6048
@rochellevandriel6048 Ай бұрын
Expansion please.
@simon359
@simon359 Ай бұрын
Maybe Anker will make version two of the 3800 at a much higher solar rate input! As of now, I would definitely avoid it!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I really hope they put in two really high end mppts. If they did that, they would be way better off.
@simon359
@simon359 Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep Yes, the way they have it you end up paying a lot more for your solar panels, not to mention there is only one panel you can use except their proprietary equipment. To me the 767-2000 is a much better product. I actually bought two of them.
@user-ti2rh5ml5i
@user-ti2rh5ml5i Ай бұрын
The link you posted doesn’t have panels with those specs. You have a valid link?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I have those panels in the kits. Are you looking for the link specifically for just the solar panel?
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 Ай бұрын
Well... generally speaking I'm not against the easier wiring, but using power stations at scale is a huge money sink. Its a big lose. Most importantly, there is very little flexibility. You can't scale power station based systems up very well and what you can do tends to require expensive brand-proprietary components. If anything breaks you wind up being stuck waiting on the manufacturer and/or replacing a very expensive piece of gear. Not good either. So this seems to be a rather expensive way to run off-grid. That $8000 in Anker gear would buy you a far more powerful system made out of discrete components. Far, far more powerful. More storage, more solar, more inverter, more everything. Or alternatively you could spend much less money for an equivalent system. Now building a system out of discrete parts can be intimidating. One doesn't just wire the pieces up... you still need a main battery fuse and fuses or DC breakers to distribute the power. But there are two relatively easy solutions. The first is to simply start small. A few solar panels, one 48V (51.2V LiFePO4) battery, one charge controller, one inverter, learn your way around the electronics, then scale up as needed. There is a learning curve because you also need fusing and breakers and such, but it isn't terrible. The second is to go with a hybrid inverter solution, which is basically like a power station except without the storage. You then just hang all the pieces off of it. Hybrid inverters even have built-in solar inputs, but unlike proprietary power station systems you can also add discrete charge controllers. You don't have to use the built-in solar inputs. And hybrid inverters often include the necessary safety functions (many even include built-in breakers). Power stations are great for SMALL systems, but they are a really bad choice for anything big, or anything you want to scale. Hybrid inverters are universally better than power stations for anything you might want to connect to the house. -Matt
@RCTVAccount
@RCTVAccount Ай бұрын
I contacted Anker about the input to the F3800 and this is what they sent me... "Thank you for contacting Anker customer Service. Our F3800 is MPPT support, which means as long as the input voltage range from 11V to 60V, it could charge our unit regardless of the wattage/amps, however, each solar input will only take in 1200W at most. You may connect 2 of 405W solar panels in parallel and plug to each solar input port."
@ElliottAbraham
@ElliottAbraham Ай бұрын
With this, per their support site you can only support 1600 watts by putting 2 in parallel instead of 3.
@RCTVAccount
@RCTVAccount Ай бұрын
@@ElliottAbraham The reference was for the Anker 405W rigid panels. There are other panel options that would increase the total wattage for charging.
@ElliottAbraham
@ElliottAbraham Ай бұрын
@@RCTVAccount I would love to get around that 1600 watt if I could do it with only 8 rigid 400 watt panels...That would create a reliable and portable system that I would need to not ruffle the feathers in my HOA
@sia3540
@sia3540 Ай бұрын
This has to be the craziest video I have ever seen on solar. You have an 18k behind you. Why not just get two 6000XP. That thing is a joke! PV VOLTAGE THAT LOWS😂!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
...because I test and review tons of products to show lots of options. I don't just sit on one item and say it's the only way.
@Paulwilliams203
@Paulwilliams203 Ай бұрын
Expansion 🎉
@knotnaught
@knotnaught Ай бұрын
Mjr Ed Dames freaked me out about CMEs as a teenager. Waiting for the DPRK nuke in anger?
@KaylynnStrain
@KaylynnStrain Ай бұрын
DO get the expansion batteries !!!
@foamysking
@foamysking Ай бұрын
Just found your channel through this thanks for showing it those have tempted me. Are you able to recharge them while they are outputting power via a portable generator?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
yes you can recharge from solar while outputting power. I'd love to help you get the right system for your needs. Feel free to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com
@clarencewiles963
@clarencewiles963 Ай бұрын
Power up 😊
@TexasStormChaser
@TexasStormChaser Ай бұрын
One of those F3800's only has 3840wh of capacity for $4000. I can buy a 24v 200ah lifepo4 battery for $1200 that has 5000wh. What a rip off.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
you're paying for everything to be done and wired for you. You will always beat it with DIY setups.
@TexasStormChaser
@TexasStormChaser Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep What? Buying a victron mppt charge inverter for $1200? Wires the same as a Anker plus 2 extra wires to the battery. So for like half the price you have nearly double the capacity.
@PrestoMoto02
@PrestoMoto02 Ай бұрын
The f3800 is always on sale I got mine for $2300
@TexasStormChaser
@TexasStormChaser Ай бұрын
@@PrestoMoto02 of course it’s on sale all the time. It’s a $300 battery with a $300 in electronics.
@PrestoMoto02
@PrestoMoto02 Ай бұрын
The iPhone is too
@artosborne
@artosborne Ай бұрын
Expansion video.
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 Ай бұрын
Please note that surge protectors, which is what the "EMP Shield" device is, CANNOT protect you from an EMP. They are heavy on marketing and tickling people's prepper neurons, but its just a regular SPD. It isn't anything special. In fact, there doesn't even seem to be even the most basic datasheet on it like how many joules can it actually dissipate? They don't say anywhere, and that is a huge red flag. Instead they give parameters that are worthless. 228,000 amps? For how long? Any SPD can dissipate massive amps... just not for very long. All phases of an EMP? How powerful? And "one billionth of a second"? meaningless... ALL SPDs can react that fast... its just the zener diode that is the first reacting component of any SPD that sinks the energy long enough for the gas discharge tube to engage. Its like saying something is powerful but only giving the volts or amps rather than both... you can't actually determine how powerful the device actually is. Also, thin wires .... uh. yah, good luck. Its just a regular SPD. The most reliable SPD is the kind that trips a breaker, thus permanently protecting devices hanging off the breaker. No SPD can protect a circuit for very long so you have to trip a physical disconnect if you want real protection. That way the SPD only has to protect the circuit long enough for the breaker to trip which requires sinking considerably less energy. -Matt
@clintwedel5704
@clintwedel5704 Ай бұрын
Time of Use load shifting is the what I want to know about...
@McL0VINNN
@McL0VINNN Ай бұрын
Run your entire house!... For 3 hrs
@bobbyj8044
@bobbyj8044 14 күн бұрын
expansion!
@brentcox6201
@brentcox6201 Ай бұрын
expansion
@JJArms5202
@JJArms5202 Ай бұрын
Anker f3800 or Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra ?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Oof, probably DPU simply becuase the solar input is so good. But, I still prefer my Apollo setup over my DPU setup. I have all the kits on discount at PoweredPortableSolar.com/shop/
@Cmd1111
@Cmd1111 9 күн бұрын
Expansion!!
@mossup-
@mossup- Ай бұрын
expansion :D
@tlteal
@tlteal Ай бұрын
Wasn't it the same story with the Ecoflow's "Hey, this is the best thing sinced sliced bread and easy to run your house off of it". I like your videos but man, these feel like paid advertisements these days. Is it same to assume they "provided these free of charge" for a favorable review?
@loluog
@loluog Ай бұрын
Expansion
@ONWOTE
@ONWOTE Ай бұрын
Hi friend, we're ONOWTE, a manufacturer of Camera Systems. Now, we are looking for partners to test and review our camera system. Are you interested in getting one and working with us?
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Sorry, no thank you.
@dsvaldez13
@dsvaldez13 Ай бұрын
Expansion....
@Hemi878
@Hemi878 Ай бұрын
Expansion
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
Dude, they updated the solar ranges and increased the amperage as well with the latest firmware update. You didn't know that?!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
I saw they updated their site to up to 27a. But did they increase the voltage range? I said 25a cause that's still what's on the side of the unit
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep correct, they increased amperage up to 27 amps but they ALSO dropped the 'higher amperage voltage' cutoff from 32v to down to 28v so this will basically work with most 300w to 400w residential panels in parallel. So as long as you have over 28v, you'll get the higher charging amperage. Very good change!
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
@Jasonoid indeed that's really good news. I'll have to do a follow up video about the solar input
@davidbailey3289
@davidbailey3289 Ай бұрын
Ok so all that means what exactly. One of my biggest hangups with this unit was the solar charging. The other is the fact you couldn't AC charge when using the 240 single unit mode. I guess that changes though if your only using 120v off each unit to create the 240 split phase right.
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
@@davidbailey3289 Correct, no ac input with 240v ac output.
@kadupitiya
@kadupitiya Ай бұрын
Anker says “5. The AC output ports on Anker SOLIX F3800 are disabled when Double Power Hub is activated.” But you are saying otherwise.
@markjob6354
@markjob6354 Ай бұрын
*Come on Man ! The Solex F3800's MPPT controllers are a shit show ! The PV input spec of the F3800 is an absolute JOKE ! For Me this stupid crap just to get any decent Solar input is a deal breaker AT ANY PRICE !*
@minutemanprep
@minutemanprep Ай бұрын
Their MPPTs are defintely lacking.
@markjob6354
@markjob6354 Ай бұрын
@@minutemanprep Yes Sir. I have great difficulty understanding why Anker/Solex considers their spec on the FX3800's PV inputs are desirable for an otherwise excellent product ?
@chancejensen9324
@chancejensen9324 Ай бұрын
Boom! First to comment!
@jchil1604
@jchil1604 Ай бұрын
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