He drives like he's got the Salamanca cartel right behind him.
@yaaboobaay2 ай бұрын
@@philipcooper8297 no , Hank is chasing him because he found the book
@sailyui2 ай бұрын
@@yaaboobaay no, mother Miranda wants to take his power
@rafapozzan2 ай бұрын
You're goddam right
@davejohnson34742 ай бұрын
SCIENCE
@future622 ай бұрын
Bro this guy's lines are beautiful. He was really putting the car exactly where it needed to be through every phase of every corner.
@chiemekaa2 ай бұрын
I was saying the very same! Absolutely loved his racing lines.
@SerbanTV2 ай бұрын
I had the same feeling, I mean I would definitely trust this guy to drive me around the ring 👌
@N4CR2 ай бұрын
Yeah the wide entries really suit this type of car. I also ride similar on superbikes with some extra tricks lol.
@drivenchris2 ай бұрын
Was good to see him not getting sucked into following the lines of the car in front. 👏
@razali70164 күн бұрын
True very smooth driving, But he has not got the urgency Misha has. Misha would have got way faster overtakes.
@stoneeh2 ай бұрын
Added aero (balanced - front & rear), tires, pads.. perfect mod list for this car imo. Good driving too imo. Thanks to the owner for sharing it with us 🙏
@alim75022 ай бұрын
He built the NSX-R that Honda never made
@jasoncook12762 ай бұрын
Wow, awesome 😎
@Anthony_The_Chicken_Licker2 ай бұрын
This is how you must drive your own car you didn't let misha driver your car fast last time 😂
@stoneeh2 ай бұрын
@@Anthony_The_Chicken_Licker did, for half a lap 😄
@lucasdewal2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your nice comment!
@alim9980972 ай бұрын
You can tell even as a passenger, Misha's instincts are on point. While Heisenberg was braking hard, Misha continued to focus his eyes forward then as he felt the car was able to brake in time and avoid any crashes there, he immediately looked to his side mirrors for rear traffic.
@Karto862 ай бұрын
Pro
@ytj222 ай бұрын
Wouldn't this be everyone's instinct?
@stratoside47652 ай бұрын
@@ytj22literally this
@derbigpr5002 ай бұрын
I would have thought Heisenberg would prefer a Porsche to a Honda, but whatever... 🤣
@TML342 ай бұрын
Still a big upgrade from the Aztek. 😅
@gonzagnr22 ай бұрын
or a pontiac
@ismalinkin2 ай бұрын
Heisenberg had a Chrysler 300 SRT
@Svj63dreamcar2 ай бұрын
@@ismalinkin lüge
@yiga41712 ай бұрын
He clearly prefers American cars.
@AP-op4rc2 ай бұрын
The Sega Dreamcast of cars. Too far ahead of its time for people to understand it. Not far enough ahead to compete with what came next. Ultimately both were amazing and deeply underrated.
@LittleBigKid707b2 ай бұрын
This is a GOAT comment. What a comparison and reference to one of the greatest consoles of all time.
@Esdru2212 ай бұрын
Only people that had the Dreamcast can understand this comment! Magnificent analogy!
@iKenzohh2 ай бұрын
Goated comment! On point
@d3vilfish802 ай бұрын
Deep comment 👍🏻
@MilodeVries2 ай бұрын
@@Esdru221 never had a dreamcast, but quite fully understand this comment, the dreamcast was so far ahead of it's time. And in some ways, too soon (ie it should have had ethernet oob instead of dialup, or in addition to) Too bad that Sega just made one or two mistakes too much before they launched it
@fredericoespinoza2 ай бұрын
Jesse we need to go to Nürburgring
@mclarenf1gtr992 ай бұрын
Jesse, lets cook...those tires.
@possibly81802 ай бұрын
Jesser we need to floor it on the Carousel
@ciello___83072 ай бұрын
I am the one who Brakes
@marcelmustang12 ай бұрын
I would normally not like driving in auto for the gearbox on the track, but man this NSX didn’t skip a beat with selecting gears. Very much impressed by that. Also very well driven by the owner 🙏🏻
@CaseyvlVisage2 ай бұрын
9 speed right? Thing bangs through gears
@wooable2 ай бұрын
Yeah the shift logic was incredibly impressive, great job honda
@N4CR2 ай бұрын
Auto is better than anyone ever will be missing shifts and shifting out of optimal point with manual paddles. It's almost never faster unless specific engine breaking scenario possibly.
@pancakeking24672 ай бұрын
I came just for this comment it’s crazy how In tune it is downshifting almost immediately when needed.
@CaseyvlVisage2 ай бұрын
@@N4CR true, you should also know your car if you’re driving a manual around track. I’ve seen plenty of people money shift their cars because they don’t know their shift points in a manual lol…
@geogmz82772 ай бұрын
These cars look way better in person than they do on videos. Such a good looking car..
@vishwadeepak41042 ай бұрын
Agree with you man it looks gorgeous
@christiandevos92802 ай бұрын
Overly detailed.
@ゆっくり鑑賞アカウントАй бұрын
@@christiandevos9280 i know people woud say " overly simple" if they simplify
@sungkim7422 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 NSX in red with ECU tune and downpipes. I love it. It is interesting to see how the electric engines work on track in the video. Usually, when I'm driving, I'm too focused on driving to see when the electric engines assist.
@RDSAlphard2 ай бұрын
Do you get extra power from the ECU tune?
@sungkim7422 ай бұрын
@RDSAlphard Yes, the boost is increased, so it's quite a bit. With downpipes, it now makes 700hp.
@coolguy_29972 ай бұрын
Go to visit Misha with your car:)
@VanishPenguin2 ай бұрын
One of my fave cars to use in GT7, and im top 2000 players on the charts. Have to make it heavy-ish with almost 700hp. It falls off hard after the the E Boost falls off. I LOVE the torque vectoring
@jakubrysz32872 ай бұрын
@@RDSAlphard you can have up to more than 700 HP when u have downpipe and soft this is amazing in this car and of course it need upgrade stock exhaust because from the outside it doesnt souds good but inside is quite specific and nice sound like star wars or something
@DeathNRebirth2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's just me as a Honda/Acura nerd, but I would have loved to have seen the SH-AWD torque vectoring screen on display to see where the power was being sent during the lap.
@Rays_892 ай бұрын
Monitoring the tire pressure is more race focused, and more important, but i do get your curiosity request 😊
@thetruth76332 ай бұрын
You know why Honda makes great cars? The design grows on you over time. This model is 8 years old and now I am starting to like it, like it? Love it!! 😍 Most manufacturers design cars which look great when they come out but after two years are dated.
@AI-Records242 ай бұрын
True of bmw too - when the g series first came out I was like 🤮but they are starting to grow on me. F series my favourite now all round car and E has my heart.
@Evil-La-Poopa2 ай бұрын
nice fat vaccum cleaner
@N4CR2 ай бұрын
NSX, S2000, Type-R (most) etc.
@hogwild58442 ай бұрын
Loved the way this guy drives. So calm and smooth yet rapid. Also hugely impressed by the car for flashing the reduced braking warning when he stomped on the carbon ceramics. Its really impressive to see the car knows the brakes are under strain.
@johnysmighel21022 ай бұрын
First time seeing someone drive fast without using the paddle shifters!
@kimnotking97422 ай бұрын
@@adeal2buy354 nope he doesn't
@v8rockz2 ай бұрын
@@adeal2buy354 he doesn't..
@josemorenoporras75062 ай бұрын
@@adeal2buy354 I think he only touch the paddle once to up shift . This gearbox works very well.
@abdullahbinshahid319921 күн бұрын
@@v8rockzHe did, the shift logic is insane in that car, you think of a gear it should be in and it's already there, no need of manual mode to get most out of the tranny like some cars
@DutchDukeMan2 ай бұрын
m3 really had to move aside. he was fast on the straights but struggled through every corner
@freeofbug2 ай бұрын
That's so nice to hear the same sound as the previous NSX. This car is incredible stable, the car seems very easy to handle. Thanks Honda, and thanks Misha
@ZedNinetySix_2 ай бұрын
Does not sound the same at all.
@RiasGremoryS542 ай бұрын
@@ZedNinetySix_ It kinda does, for a modern engine they did a great job. Go hear the NSX GT3 inside on you will understand
@FastJetPerformance2 ай бұрын
Massive fan of the NSX, such an underrated car.
@ersindemirci26732 ай бұрын
I know the owner and I also drove with him on the Nurburgring in this NSX. We managed 7:45,29 with me next to him (106kg) and during traffic. Walter White is a Sniper behind the Wheel.
@AcuraAddicted2 ай бұрын
BMW hogged the track preventing NSX from passing.
@markburton83032 ай бұрын
It was nice to see the driver be nice and calm about it to be honest instead of getting up too close/dive bombing etc.
@sweikese2 ай бұрын
What an absolute corner attacking rocketship this nsx is! Must be a wonderful drive. Well done meneer!
@sv85bg2 ай бұрын
amazing driving skills Walter :D brakes from 200 to 90 was mind blowing :)
@nathanknight80222 ай бұрын
Dam that was a lot faster than I was expecting 😯
@RiasGremoryS542 ай бұрын
Supercar, JDM.
@davidsmall76762 ай бұрын
Very underrated car. So glad you have experienced the new NSX 🎉
@manodiao2 ай бұрын
would not be underrated if it hadnt sparkes false hopes with the NSX naming
@747simmer417 күн бұрын
@@manodiaolived up to the name. an experimental sports car (the experimental aspect being the electric motors which quickly became the future. look at high performance cars today.) car was ahead of its time. i would take this over an r8 v8 any day
@BullyBoxer2 ай бұрын
Very underrated car , and the owner can drive a bit to ;)
@MaxxyNL2 ай бұрын
Straight arm steering can't be fun...
@DriverX-JDM2 ай бұрын
until u don't do it
@marvinvisser50392 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 😅
@MichielvanderMeulen2 ай бұрын
didn't seem in control of the wheel, more like using it as an anchor
@eugensvetllicinii2 ай бұрын
he seems to make use of it, but its uncomfortable for me to watch :D
@henrik_lamar2 ай бұрын
This was weird honestly… Heisenberg driving on the nordschleife in automatic mode and in a not very adequate seating position, but… he drove pretty damn fast and I’m impressed by the gearbox software on properly shifting the gears down
@drotegu62 ай бұрын
This guy is probably my favorite driver I've seen so far. Excellent corners, flat out, awesome drive! Tire pressures were pretty high though right? Attributing to some loss of grip given the colder temps? I haven't checked what these are going for but I bet they are worth a pretty penny. Like other enthusiasts I'm disappointed by the hybrid system but I think Honda just didn't want to go with a boosted setup and couldn't reach the numbers they wanted NA. Performance wise, amazing. And I think the main thing about the original car they wanted to achieve is the chassis and handling which they nailed! Great video!
@4nz-nl2 ай бұрын
Underrated car, underrated driver. That last section after he passed the black BMW was proper quick.
@Schuey_M2 ай бұрын
I’m impressed. Didn’t realise these NSX’s were that good and great driving too! 😎👍🏼
@RChero10102 ай бұрын
Honda let their designers run wild with this one. There's a reason Ferrari had 3 of them torn down for benchmarking when my coworker visited the Ferrari factory XD
@JustAGuy852 ай бұрын
He drives great, but also, that car is just amazing. Nice power, nice handling, but how it al comes together it looks so easy. So controllable. Very impressive.
@bfkl22252 ай бұрын
I’m so impressed by that gear changing logic, it’s in auto mode and I didn’t even noticed.
@MarMPB2 ай бұрын
That NSX deserves more love! It was ahead of it’s time. Just now Porsche is launching the hybrid 992 GTS. The NSX IS fast and beautiful!
@Evil-La-Poopa2 ай бұрын
it was one of the first cars that brought us a generic design, overcomplicated technology with heavy hybrid, screens everywhere and no analog dials, automatic shifting, vacuum cleaner engine, expensive price and a huge distance from its original parent car. this has nothing in common with a real NSX. It should be named Honda Generic
@MarMPB2 ай бұрын
@@Evil-La-Poopa We agree to disagree!
@daddycool35992 ай бұрын
Finally all the Crystals bought him a NSX... Great Job Walther.
@thisiszaphod2 ай бұрын
Relaxed driver and co-pilot. What a machine!
@Futur_Chov2 ай бұрын
Stability is insane
@navaho54302 ай бұрын
Why would you hate on this car, so well balanced cheers.
@SATO_FD2R2 ай бұрын
Love the NSX, can’t wait to get a Type S! Super under hyped, and very misunderstood.
@torvasdh2 ай бұрын
Very good driver. It was cool to see him take different lines than the others in front of him.
@dave_asara2 ай бұрын
Very impressive driving. Cool to see he has so much confidence with it!
@endless_touge2 ай бұрын
So beautiful and fast on these types of tracks. Underrated
@Cas_anova2 ай бұрын
Love how he's using the whole track and more.
@in4merATP2 ай бұрын
Wrong hand position. Part of the braking stability loss was actually compounded by the hand position. The center of pressure from the hands must go through the center of rotation of the wheel, or the arms become an out-of-phase pendulum acting on the steering.
@AI-Records242 ай бұрын
Yea like it’s his driving test, arms are flat when he turns 45 degrees too, could be a little closer. Still, not bad driving overall.
@IsaacPoopsAlot2 ай бұрын
he still had it, he's still more skilled than you probably
@joby6022 ай бұрын
Seems sat way too close to the wheel. *edit - I meant way too far from the wheel!
@ChristopherWoods2 ай бұрын
I checked out some interior shots of this car, looks like you can't put your hands nicely inline with the wheel axis due to the spoke placement. I noted he was having to turn right slightly while braking over the crest to avoid going off, that stretch of the track looks nasty off-line. I still thought the deceleration from ~130 mph to 55 mph in cold weather wasn't bad 😅 good work VSA and ABS!
@ChristopherWoods2 ай бұрын
@@joby602 nah, if anything he's not quite close enough, but he may have quite long legs relative to his arms. You should never have straight arms while driving.
@soulsborne842 ай бұрын
amazing!!! this nsx is so so fast , and those brakes! insane...
@EdgyNumber12 ай бұрын
Wow, you can actually hear the generator powering down in the background as the car brakes!
@perpetual_bias2 ай бұрын
the bmw ring taxi driver appreciated heisenberg's quick stopping reaction 8:00
@stephenpeacock85922 ай бұрын
Very pleased to see a NC NSX being driven well, definitely on my dream list though less accessible than a Lexus LC500...
@shinjinoshinjilarenai2 ай бұрын
このモデルのNSXも見たかった映像だ👍️
@halfdoc972 ай бұрын
Finally my favourite hybrid supercar.
@Yushii12 ай бұрын
everyone is talking about the car and the driver Me: *looking at the battery charge level going up and down* Hmm yes interesting
@grahamdeakin-howarth30902 ай бұрын
"Spicy !" understatement of the year 👍👍
@FreshlySnipes2 ай бұрын
I love that this is a Honda in Europe and not an Acura like they are here in the States.
@Ven0mSRT2 ай бұрын
Didn't he sit too far from wheel?
@cemofluoglu6592 ай бұрын
Expected him to start braking somewhere 7;51 but not at 7;54, slow cars in distance were quite visible aren't them? Another perfect video, thanks!
@sdidriver48472 ай бұрын
I would disabled the sound generator first. But Walter is focused ;)
@abdullahbinshahid319921 күн бұрын
It's not a sound generator it's pure intake noise. It sounds like this in the vid because the intakes are right beside your ears (like the gt4rs) so it's overwhelming for the mic
@mehranzeigen88052 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that Heisenberg is such a good driver
@ACCORDriver_NL2 ай бұрын
Great driving as always, Lucas! Awesome car, that is only going to get better, I'm sure!
@notchy32882 ай бұрын
This car is too unloved and underrated. Very cool video
@qwertyqwerty-hv4nf2 ай бұрын
Wow, ese tipo sabe lo que hace, muy buena vuelta, espero ver alguna otra vuelta más por aquí 🎉
@josemorenoporras75062 ай бұрын
This car looks really good. It seems to like the track too, the gearbox is pretty impressive doing his own thing holding the revs and perfect downshifts while being very smooth. I looks like a very well made and executed car. Maybe if this car come out today it would be way more successful I think, Honda was very early to this hybrid tech when only a Prius and some other boring hybrid cars out in the wild.
@souldrummer8182 ай бұрын
I can read Misha mind thinking thank god he didn’t turn the traction control off 😂😂
@adeal2buy3542 ай бұрын
very underrated car overall and the camera dont do it any justice
@Evil-La-Poopa2 ай бұрын
the most modern generic supercar this car really has it all
@RDSAlphard2 ай бұрын
I always love the NC NSX, although I do think it needs to be both lighter (maybe 50kg) & more power (maybe 50hp) to make it competitive against rivals like R8 V10. That said, would love to see someone give it a set of coilovers + sticky tires + good aero like this white one, would be interesting to see how great it truly is!
@mrb61442 ай бұрын
I was watching his face judging his driving’s skills lol😂
@ariefm.m50062 ай бұрын
i like this car design maybe custom NSX-R, so stable, goob brake but i think honda add fake machine sound speaker
@THESHADOW971392 ай бұрын
7:51 ... I think many still remember three subaru gt with more than 350hp, in "very big" difficulty, exactly in this place... very hot. Excellent driving and indeed, very good behavior of this nsx.... nevertheless, I would still like to see this car on this same track, without the electric motors, just with its turbo V6 engine 🤔
@Senpapii_2 ай бұрын
I wish Honda would go balls to the wall and make a supercharged V8 with Vtech 😂
@binskee6772 ай бұрын
They came very close to drop a V10 … but America had to busy the financial crisis bubble 😫 thank you Muuuricaa
@fisebilillah112 ай бұрын
3:11 the passenger already looks scared 😂
@oliese2 ай бұрын
Misha: The Honda Senna The owner: Say his name Misha: NSX, Honda NSX
@brugvp2 ай бұрын
that should be top comment hahah
@boboobrob2 ай бұрын
you mean to tell me the car is... Braking Bad?
@tenshiba2492 ай бұрын
😂👍🏻
@LegendaryGauntlet2 ай бұрын
Nice smooth driving Lucas :) See you at the NSX tour 2025 !
@aderbalnunesm2 ай бұрын
1:22 Look at that license plate, it destroyed the front of the car.
@acalthu2 ай бұрын
That BMW you guys were chasing had such shit handling, it was struggling so much in the corners, such a POS on the bends.
@dr3am.3r2 ай бұрын
Really calm dude, nice to see him drive.
@MonstaNRG2 ай бұрын
@7:20 it was still yellow after the incident. Everybody should probably have waited as became obvious later.
@DoctorHayduke2 ай бұрын
I could listen to that engine all day.
@ChristopherWoods2 ай бұрын
Shame about the piped-in engine noise :( It's even more aggressive in Track mode. But what a car! This is the hybrid future I'm OK with - massive ICE engine and some electric power to fill in the torque gaps. That torque dyno reading is mad. Must be a lot of fun to drive.
@Luigifazz2 ай бұрын
That is very smooth for a hate or like car, pretty impresive i think.
@TheUsama192 ай бұрын
This has the best auto shifter I ve ever seen
@fasttracklap84802 ай бұрын
8:38 that bit (till the end) was good, even though at 9:24, i was like 😮😯😲😧😦😳... lol, let's say that i wouldn't have positioned my left hand on the steering where he positioned it, to tackle those last curves, but over all, nice video, thank you for the content 👍
@FreshlySnipes2 ай бұрын
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that I question Ayrton Senna’s involvement in the development of this car.. Micha’s fscial expressions are hilarious 😂
@FloImpreza12 сағат бұрын
Very very fast car with a lot of Grip and a very good Driver, nice Video
@igorm263120 күн бұрын
Not one but two guys with Mr.Bean poker faces at 1G lateral forces, admiring :)
@RealLeskot2 ай бұрын
I was honestly surprised how well the NSX performed. These things went under radar, because they were so overpriced compared to the competition, but you love to see them.
@mokodorali59752 ай бұрын
Overpriced? What other car in this price range had the tech and engineering of this car? The next ones were a million pound each. If it had a Ferrari badge people wpuld be saying its cheap. Badge snobbery honestly.
@siphesihlemagagula17092 ай бұрын
Blasphemous, what overprice you speak of my friend?
@RealLeskot2 ай бұрын
@@mokodorali5975 I´m not a ferrari fan at all. Just saying, the car released at the same time as, for example, nissan gtr, which, was faster, more tuner friendly and cost half as much as NSX. I love the car, it´s cool halo unicorn, but there was a reason why it didn´t sell well. Honda in a price range of Porsche just isn´t on most people´s radar.
@RealLeskot2 ай бұрын
@@siphesihlemagagula1709 There were competing cars, which cost half as much and performed better. It´s a cool car, i love to see it, but there is a reason why other halo cars like R8 or GTR sold well and this one didn´t, it got outperformed in it´s price range.
@Evil-La-Poopa2 ай бұрын
it deserved to be under the radar this car has nothing in common with the real NSX and thats why people where not only surprised but also repelled by its release if it was released under a different name, things would have went differently u can simply take the name of a light, nimble, analog, loud engine roaring and relatively cheap supercar slayer and then produce an expensive, heavy, hybrid supercar thats fully stuffed with technology, automatic shifting, screens and vacuum cleaner noise and expect people to love it... the whole point of the NSX was to be faster then exotic supercars while being way more affordable. But the new NSX was barely even able to compete against the exotics while costing as much or sometimes even more then the competition, costing 160 to 180.000 dollars. ... the car is a joke and forgettable it was one of the first cars to bring us the modern generic design language and nowadays 90% of new super/ hypercars look like that. thanks Honda, great job.
@tohidnikkhah2 ай бұрын
The guy knows how to drive. The lines he out the the car in were almost the perfect racing lines a pro driver would choose. And yes, the NSX never lets you down!
@DullBoyJack2 ай бұрын
Good driving in spite of bad driver position... He's getting full arm extension in turns, it's hard to have good control over the wheel like that. He should move his seat forward or the wheel back a bit if possible...
@fullsendsimracing2 ай бұрын
Driving cars in automatic mode on the Nordschleife is really weird. The car definitely doesnt always know the right times to shift in this environment but in all honesty it seems to do a damn good job 98% of the time
@abdullahbinshahid319921 күн бұрын
The 2% time it didn't is because he touched the paddle so it got locked into the "temporary manual mode"
@Chris.Davies7 күн бұрын
Having been in a crash as a passenger on a race track, and having driven over 500 laps at my local track, I would be without a crash helmet in a car. Just a simple open face helmet, to stop your brain getting smashed to bits when it goes wrong. I know you are competent drivers, but the guy who crashed with me in the car was a very good driver, too. A race series winner, in fact. Strangely, it's always sooooo surprising to people when they crash. But cars crash all the time!
@FreshlySnipes2 ай бұрын
That G80 M3 keeping up w/ the NSX & pulling away on the straights is crazy!!
@terrancetam38315 күн бұрын
I think it’s more driver friendly perspective for the mirror rear view camera if you put that feed on the top. 👍🏾
@scottkordos97542 ай бұрын
I think you should do a run. New nsx vs old nsx both on the track together.
@aniki9372 ай бұрын
As a French, I love the fact that you pronounce NS ix Misha 🔥🔥
@hk_ampady2 ай бұрын
How come the automatic transmission is not preemptively shifting up even when the engine is bouncing on the rev limiter ?
@abdullahbinshahid319921 күн бұрын
When did it bounce?
@hk_ampady21 күн бұрын
Think I mistook 7000 rpm (and red flashing) as the limiter.
@omarmunroe14202 ай бұрын
Not sure if its by purpose but i am loving this JDM series😁
@mpchess13792 ай бұрын
Dutch Heinsenberg is pushing on slow speed corners using all track and flooring it, putting some stress on the rears but on high speed he doesn't lean at all on the fronts.
@arata_akiyama2 ай бұрын
very clean but unlucky with the brakes 👍 well done
@peterrrr2 ай бұрын
Feels illegal to be this early in the comments
@stevecarter50842 ай бұрын
Great brake test, engine sounds brilliant…sometimes an underestimated car…but on this lap not so!!
@igris26712 ай бұрын
love seeing Misha in the passenger seat enjoying the ride and smiling lmfao
@jandoedel10122 ай бұрын
This car seems to have a fantastic handling. Compared with about 14 other vids (I watched last few days) from Misha this one really stands out. Ofc the driverskills add to it as well. [edit] Once you passed that "annoying" black BMW he suddenly started to limp...lmao.
@y.vanespenracing2 ай бұрын
What a car 😍😍 , congrats Lucas ! Pretty jealous on this one Misha 😂
@ferchoxaurio2 ай бұрын
WOOOWW what a driver, i like the wat he trace the corners uffff