PUSHING THE NEW VW Golf 8.5 R & GTI Clubsport TO THE LIMIT!

[@NickV1978]

22:21 You know its getting serious when the rear wiper comes on for no reason at all! 😆👍

[@e36_323ti]

4:02 Classic - turned on steering heating :D

[@matthewlupton1539]

when I first got my golf I did this so many mf times lmao the button is so sensitive for being on the steering wheel

[@florianpagat370]

Misha, You NEED to make a video with a professional Drifter where you finally learn how to drift, this would be so cool !

[@Statisticsprincipal]

I agree

[@leo-vcx-1337]

Maybe @OGSchaefchen is free

[@lucasnatson6536]

Its easy, just hop on assetto do some driving, Misha is skilled enaugh to get this in a few laps. Then u can go and play irl. So much better to start on a sim, get some basic knowlage (talking about some newbies) and then start to try in real. Less frustration, saving car, parts tires and you know what u doing. Real pro drifters from Drift Masters GP are practicing on sims tracks that they battle in competition. Its a huge gap between sim young players that just starst they carreer vs some old school drifters that they are in "game" for years and getting clapped.

[@69joppe69]

Make video with Kalle Rovanperä

[@florianpagat370]

@@lucasnatson6536 You would prefer watching a video of Misha trying to drift on assetto than him Learning IRL from a professional ?? You seems like a fun Guy to be around

[@R19Robbin]

Both the R and GTI look like so much fun to drive on track 🔥🔥

[@iamatlantis1]

leave your Mother out of this my good sir!

[@stoneeh]

Make a new Corrado, Volkswagen. With the same kind of rear biased AWD as your new Golf sport models. With a new high reving lightweight NA VR6. No hybrid BS or anything else that would add weight. Do it - we know you want to, and you know we want that kind of car.

[@PozzaPizz]

With the 80s brutalism coming back I imagine a nice square ass on a new Corrado. One can only dream tho

[@module79l28]

That engine wouldn't comply with the current emissions' norm. What would be the point of making a car they couldn't sell?

[@gapininja]

What a stupid comment. It's clear you have no knowledge of new cars

[@stoneeh]

@@module79l28 I'll pro-actively list the rest of the excuses that are going to be brought by people who spend their lives finding ways not to accomplish things as well: - it's too niche - it costs too much to develop for a limited production run - the new Scirocco didn't sell well, the new Corrado is going to flop as well - people don't want small light sportscars anymore, you have to have space and comfort - sports cars customers like tuning, you can't tune an NA - why do petrol it's all going to be electric anyway And just like with your claim about the engine and emissions, it's either a bad assumption to begin with (plenty of high power NAs complying with emissions on the market right now), or there's a solution to it. A new purist Corrado can be done, it can be made a success, it should be done, and the only reason it would not be done is if someone decided to purposely prevent a great thing.

[@module79l28]

@@stoneeh - Wanting that kind of stuff from a car manufacturer nowadays is just wishful thinking. I wouldn't mind having the Scirocco back, it would mean more work and more jobs for the Palmela factory where it was assembled, but if it happens one day it'll be an electric Scirocco for sure.

[@axe2grind244]

Club Sport GTI’s would all be accounted for within 10 minutes in the US. No clue why they’re not sold here.

[@j99bgr]

Soem big compliments here. So good to see a new GTI that's impressing people this much. Love this!

[@maxbiagi3091]

BIG PLEASE to EU car producer: "Stop fkn putting the fake sounds to the speaker" 😂

[@Lecram89]

Warum? Ihr kauft doch trotzdem😂 also kann es nicht so schlimm sein

[@strebrr]

You can switch the fake sound off now.

[@04Saleen256]

With OBD11 you can set the Soundaktor volume to “0” basically disables it permanently.

[@ronjatter]

Benny Leuchter makes it look effortless! What a driver!

[@onyttig]

I really like Benny Leuchter. First saw him on the JP Performance channel talking about the Golf 8R when it was new, that was really fun. You can feel his excitement for the car he's helped developing, always makes for a great video.

[@DullBoyJack]

Wow, that 8.5R looks like an autocross machine right out of the box.

[@ukwan]

The RS3 is so the new 8.5R should be also. Same technology.

[@Vancev99x]

This thing is NUTS! I want to test drive one now. But do you guys think they will let me do this kind of test with it? 😅

[@TheEryk03]

​@@ukwan S3 is pretty much the same as Golf R.

[@РомкаБжегош]

but it disappears when youre seein f30 on n20(b58) on the back wit flsashin high beams))))

[@babar292]

​@@РомкаБжегошLOL. Maybe on autobahn

[@davidsmall7676]

If only the club sport would come to the US.😢

[@Affalterbach1967]

Or even TCR.

[@derekhartley4480]

Or the R wagon, I have a 7.5 sport wagon and i wish i could have gotten the R wagon.

[@axe2grind244]

VW sells more Golf R’s and GTI’s in the US than any other country. In just the Northeast alone VW could sell out every Club Sport allocation with 10 minutes regardless of price so it’s kinda surprising it’s never been available here.

[@Lecram89]

Import?????

[@davidsmall7676]

@@Lecram89 Have to wait 25 years. Ugh

[@JoshuaKoerner]

Between James of Throttle House and your videos on the subject Misha, I’m very convinced I want a Golf R. I can’t right now, so I hope they keep being made until I can :)

[@thegiantgaming7592]

Dont underestimate the joy of driving a Hyundai N, give one a spin, you wont regret it.

[@vapour_xs9235]

That AWD system is impressive!! Very similar to a rally-tuned system with it prioritizing more power to the rear than the front. Seems like we have another VW Polo rally car in the works...

[@Zim5.0]

The braking performance on the club sport is very impressive

[@ocavant]

And yet unstable on hard application. Watch at the end of the front straight.

[@thegiantgaming7592]

I love how instructors standard fully baby you on all the corners on the track as if you cant drive at all 😂

[@RDSAlphard]

I'm glad to see VW made the AWD system in Golf R more rear biased! I'm sure some drivers would prefer this because it's more fun at the right circumstances! Slightly off-topic, it's a shame Toyota is getting rid of 30F 70R torque split on their facelifted GR Yaris & GR Corolla.

[@rosskj9187]

Its always maxed out 50/50 on the haldex, its just the new haldex diff can allow all that power on the same axle to go to one of the wheels which is a max of 50% total. Yes aftermarket haldex controllers have allowed 50/50 locked since haldex started in terms of splitting the power more aggressively to the rear but the new haldex isnt all that much different besides allowing more torque to one wheel than the other

[@ronaldaja341]

@@rosskj9187to my knowledge the mk8/8.5R isn’t using haldex

[@TheEryk03]

VW should do lap record for the FWD cars.

[@scotturich]

Would be interesting to see how it would stack up against the Type R.

[@LennardSchnitter]

@@scotturichthe guy in the video holds the record in his class with his golf on the nordschleife

[@1neAdam12]

🏎 It's interesting to watch passengers get pitched around their seats, while the driver stays relatively stationary.

[@thegiantgaming7592]

€82.000 starting in The Netherlands ☠️☠️☠️☠️ specced out nearly €100.000 for a Golf 😅

[@ocavant]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@АлексейЗайченко-т4у]

13:15 "Misha, first time for you to drive alone" I almost cried from laugh LMAO

[@WhiteTeesTV]

Misha @ 18:10 lmao, rewatched it like 10 times.. keeps making me laugh

[@Juhsga]

That looks like so much fun, you're very lucky Misha!!

[@markhyoutube]

I have a Clubsport 8 and its brilliant!

[@nenadmomcilovic9133]

Is the suspension different than the regular dcc?

[@markhyoutube]

@@nenadmomcilovic9133 not sure what you mean. I have DCC and I'm guessing the components will be different, but could be wrong. DCC is great and glad I got a car with it. If I were to keep itz id probs lower it about 20mm and put some spacers on, but it's ok. I don't like modded look, but a subtle change like that would be good. DCC is so comfortable, it's honestly one of the most comfortable cars I've had, and I've had quite a few!

[@danieldor4981]

to drift easier misha, its really about weight transfer and transitioning the weight from one side to the other and lift right as the weight transfers then get on the throttle. hope that will help for the future. :) there are many techniques for drift, clutch kick, inertia drift, braking drift, lift throttle oversteer etc. hope some of that helps for next time you go hooning :) happy slideways

[@dacmm]

It's a bit different and 'unnatural' in the R because it is a front heavy car and understeers naturally. You have to give it power to make it slide, so you can only help it along with weight transfer. You have to have a large wheel turn angle and be on the power for the torque vectoring to kick in hard.

[@ocavant]

The only issue here is this car does not drift for any appreciable amount of time despite all the electronic diff trickery.

[@danieldor4981]

@dacmm oh i didnt know this about it. thanks for that :)

[@robinw944]

seems like a really good allround car, daily, long distances, some tracking and maybe drifting (crazy to say that about a golf) but come on, that price ist just out of this world, also the digital cockpit keeps getting worse with every update it gets lol

[@Tibogen]

Lausitzring and the Lausitz. My home 😇

[@ivandrobyshev6792]

Great work from engineers, thank them!

[@ocavant]

19:51 parking sensor goes off for no reason. Brand new VW product already broken😂

[@Corsa15DT]

the R should be faster into to the corners too, it has all the tools to be, just needs software update for the torque vectoring

[@ex0148]

13:20, Misha's face "STFU let me race already I'm not driving Miss Daisey!".

[@claviclenotch1876]

Great shirt Misha! ❤️

[@d.g.3871]

I want one!

[@JacquesTrekhaak69]

God i hate that the sound of the engine is mainly coming out of the speakers (on the 8.5R)🤮

[@darkhorse4148]

It sounds better than the fake sound on the 8 gen R/GTI.

[@arturts3296]

And they made you pay for it

[@orbytl2799]

you can turn it off in the mk7, dont know about the 8

[@slamminx3]

@@orbytl2799under individual mode, you can now switch it off on the 8. It's called "Pure sound".

[@Jonas-lf7lt]

​@@slamminx3and in the MK8.5 you can choose interior/exterior sound separate in the "Individual" mode.

[@vladimir__proso__]

18:48 А вот тут начинается самое интересное, т.к. камеры на впереди идущей и преследующей машине - это всегда смотрится очень интересно. P.S> Единственное, хотелось бы видеть не позади идущую машину, а "Мишу", т.е. камеру надо было поставить в синий Гольф R сзади. Тогда было бы идеально. Как бы "звезда" тут Миша, по этому смотреть надо на него )))))

[@nelsonbergman7706]

Thanks for posting. I would like to see VW (and Benny) bring some cars to the Nurburgring in 2025. I think you'd be happy to take a GTI Clubsport for some laps. 👍

[@nel2414]

Hi fellow Nelson:)

[@robertderboss9471]

Hiiiiiii perfekt Video , the Golf is amazing. Do you have Infos If there will be an Golf 8.5R Clubsport Version next year ???🎉🎉

[@MKu64]

Talked about the turn in on the GTi ... as he understeered into the corner 😂

[@Bobby-oj9jf]

Nice speed from Benny on the track 👍 very impressive

[@Smirnoff67]

Yey, new video of Misha ! :D

[@scotturich]

Sucks VW does not offer the Clubsport in the USA. I’ve had over 6 GTI’s but my Honda Civic Type R is extremely hard to beat.

[@Uknow-_1337]

I think he needed to turn off lane assist. He still has it on. So that screws with the steering

[@Czeslaw_cn4tv]

That car does NOT look like it's RWD. The rears want to hook up all the time, every time. Your instructor was just really good at throwing the car around, doing something the car intrinsically did not want to do.

[@robinkarlsson8830]

It is not not rwd. it can be 50/50 front and rear and then send 100 of the 50 to one side of the rear axel.

[@rendaddy_]

no ship my dude

[@jetara3082]

Congrats, you just realized that AWD is not RWD. You'll probably be the first person to get a pulitzer price, nobel price and an oscar all at once.

[@RosskoPeeko]

Only misha can be in full drift mode and still find maximum grip 🤣🤣🤣 it just goes to show you can’t just switch off and change your driving style. On another note it’s amazing how much tech is going into these cars and yet most of them will never see a track day :/

[@boostaholic8128]

11:59 he's like God dammit...

[@helldiego]

125" oil temp on a speedy track with only 19c outside temp... its cooking actually. in 30+ on a shortest track it will burn fast

[@blastmanutz7798]

2:48 - engagin scwharzenegger mode

[@UniQue1992]

The Golf will forever be one of the most beautiful cars out there.

[@deadmanschest4322]

2:22 - that information in the display -> Eingriff Proaktiver Insassenschutz (proactive passenger protection) -> be careful, that car is trying to end your live ;)

[@burakdasdelen705]

I think it needs an extra oil cooler to complete a full lap nürburgring 🤔

[@superdionRS]

Its so dumb they have only one oil cooler

[@TheNomios]

Great video! Just out of curiosity, how would you compare ~stock (or as mild mod platforms) seat leon cupra 300 with this GTI clubsport 8,5? Thinking about changing the seat in foreseeable future :)

[@Mynamecomeontellmename]

Benny was moving with that R.

[@RuedigerSemmler]

Hi Misha, maybe you should ask Tim Schrick if he wants to show you how to drive sideways😉

[@franciscorodrigues-yz4ew]

11:33 this killed me🤣

[@AndrewChandler-zp6nf]

I recognize that track from TOCA touring cars on ps2

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

Bring back the 2dr Golfs 😤

[@garethrichardson4037]

Oil temps of 120... Imagine that on a hot day at the 'ring! I will rephrase, 125!!

[@TranceFur]

An oil temp of 120-125 is fine for a performance driving scenario

[@garethrichardson4037]

@@TranceFur yes but after a short period of time it's not good and when the computer shuts the engine down as it did in the video it's not a good sign.. When you're on the incline at the nurburgring the oil temps get high! Both my M3s reach 130, e93 once reached 135, technically nothing wrong but the oil will lose viscoty and potententially cause engine failure at high temps unless the oil is designed for high temp usage which is what I use

[@jdmbest848]

what drives better those or I30N as Trackcar ?

[@motektomek]

I30n sux

[@efkansalc7267]

Hi Misha , how much grip diff between GTI and i20n's you have drove ? greetings from Turkiye i20n enjoyer

[@AmgAmg-yy8sy]

Great job Keep it up From Argentina...

[@MsThedarkblood]

Do you think it has better hendling than the Megane 4 RS Trophy ?

[@THCthehonestcaz]

Golf, "take me to the limit" guy does know you can drive lol

[@dionisiosskatopoutsoglou3824]

Misha R or club sport on the track is faster ?

[@proffpuff]

If you buy one just keep 2 litres of petrol in it so when the chavs Nick it they will only get to the end of the street that’s 9.5 miles to the gallon 😅

[@marifdrn]

I have GTI here in US and I have average of 28mpg mixed, it gets up to 38 on highway easily. I know some performance cars with hybrid has lower mpg.

[@htimmermans1938]

This man can drive too!

[@grahamek86]

VW has always been dormant in the driver category. Honda, Renault, and to a lesser extender lately, Ford, have been more focussed in those areas. Now we have EA888.4 propulsion with a chassis that the Germans have switched focus to handling - it's going to be lethal. They should have done it 10 years ago with the Mk7 but it's good to wake the Honda lads up and see what''s incoming. We welcome the chase.

[@mokodorali5975]

Its still just a computer in wheels, where you are the operator and not the driver. Honda are the unrivalled masters in driver engagement and the GR Corolla and Yaris are up there too.

[@swype.media-9309]

@@mokodorali5975it’s probably faster than that Toyota and Honda tho in straight line and possibly the corners so to me a little more tech seems to help sometimes

[@mokodorali5975]

@@swype.media-9309 hot hatches are not about speed and thats something the Germans never understand and a lot of consumers too. Hot hatches are about fun, driver engagement and involvement. The Golf et al might be fast in a straight line but thats where it ends, they are bland, uninvolving, you are not a driver in these cars, merely an operators, going fast in a straight line is about fun for 3 seconds, then it gets.boring and monotonous. Having a car that you can make the most of in twisty country or mountain road that has emotion and feel and you are working for it and driving it. That is the real deal, the one with heart and soul.

[@swype.media-9309]

@@mokodorali5975 well to be fair they make their cars for the autobahn not Japanese roads where 100kph is illegal speeding. Something the Japanese cannot understand. And misha giving such high praise of fwd grip is always good to see from a manufacturer shows that their R&D paid off. Sounds to me like this golf might be faster, and take your Toyota’s and Honda’s in the corners. And I didn’t even get into the price gouging of the jdms, just to go slower not worth.

[@mokodorali5975]

@@swype.media-9309 yes you are right they are built for the autobahn, just going in straight line, Japanese cars are built for being agile and nimble, handling and feel, emotion is more important, there roads are country oasses, their innovative car cukture has given us thibgs like touge racing, all about handling. The Golf doesnt have anything on the Civic Type R or Corolla and Yaris GR in the handling stakes, they would run rings on them, they run rings on much more higher end cars. They are priced spot on as the engineering and product are superior. You paying for better product. The only reason why the CTR and GR are slightly slower, like only a second, is because they use manual boxes, and not computer driven DCT's that cut a second or two.

[@fkhothatchi]

the main problem with golf is it has wonderful diff but you can't fit a big tire to take advantage of it the max you can put is 245. imagine if you can put a 265 upfront without any modification for 3000lbs car it has to have 265 minimum upfront

[@axe2grind244]

You’re def not wrong but it is meant as a daily driver…whereas a Civic Type R really isn’t.

[@Jagm177-f9o]

Have you driven in Turkey yet, do they have any tracks there?

[@kabelwasalim6305]

😂😂 instructor cant handle the student

[@ocavant]

Why does the GTI seem so unstable under hard braking?? 22:15 Street tires?

[@NielvanSteenderen]

Misha: I suck at drifting because I prefer cornering 😂😂 Perfect

[@kjs2435]

you are delusional

[@TheTechnoaddict]

More likely the lack of car and throttle control😅

[@thedirtyscotTV]

Does it FEEL like RWD when it starts to step out though? I've never driven anything like this but have driven FWD cars and induced lift off oversteer on purpose and it's not quite the same, even at speed on a wide track where there is plenty of run off it just sort of feels like you're along for the ride until the front pulls you out of it.

[@dacmm]

No, not at all like RWD. It's a somewhat unnatural feeling as you need steering angle and throttle to keep it in the drift and will correct itself if any of those are missing.

[@thedirtyscotTV]

@@dacmm So it's not really a tradition drift then? Basically cause the computer to recognize too much steering angle and throttle, then rather than cutting power like TCS would, it helps you keep power down without spinning out. I'm not sure what that is, but it seems kind of pointless and is more of a demonstration of a powerful AWD system than being actually useful. If you want to drift, go RWD, if you want to go fast, don't slide it to the point the computer starts literally driving the car lol.

[@matthewlupton1539]

I got a 2023 golf R 20th edition that I wish I could take here and let you drive lmaooo I'm in the states though

[@FeN1xDD]

R20 is probably almost the same technically wise as 8.5R. With anti-lag turbo, wider torque, atc..

[@rap6658]

will you post the video of lynkco 03++?

[@letsoverthink2548]

No, Misha. Only YOU can drift with a Golf

[@kanervatie]

When did the 8.5 come out?

[@ab93123]

Wish it still came with a manual!

[@AI-Records24]

Behaves like the old torsen Audis but with bad tracking and bald fronts😅doesn’t behave like rwd. Still nice though don’t get me wrong that’s exactly what was wrong with the 7/7,5 R, it was boring.

[@AI-Records24]

@@RandomAccessMemoryloss you don’t have a clue lmao which is fine everyone starts somewhere but don’t come talking nonsense when you don’t even know what I mean

[@jeanalvelo7571]

Just curious. Do you guys know what kind of gas they use to test these cars. I know the lid of the gas tank it says 87 or 91.

[@bknife]

So even in the DSG, the dash gives you gear suggestions in manual mode?

[@matteocecconi7560]

Misha if U want to control any car sliding u need to go see a French guy, rasso-ouest and do a video with him he as done it before with other French KZbinr nice guy and a master behind the wheel, it will be a super video for u and ur subscribers if u can do it 🙏

[@henrychang1056]

How well is the Golf GTI and R when it comes to Hyundai i30 N and Elantra N

[@audi_fanusik]

If this car has 4 wheel drive it is very hard to drift bcos quattro constantly wants to correct car when detects skidding or sliding.. So u have to really turn the quattro off to have full drift experience.. That's why front wheel only drive cars can drift better and rear wheel drive can drift the most and best..

[@Angello444]

Misha on mission

[@saigoneze4465]

Can you please drive a 2023 VW TIGUAN R at the ring please MISCHA?! .It has the same engine and tune and more importantly it has the same torque vectoring system as well . Would really love to see how it performs and your thoughts on it being such a close cousin of the mk8 R . A tuned one would be even better!

[@linuxdev8576]

Holy fuck. I want one now.

[@bemh.3817]

How does the GTI compare to the Honda FL5?

[@Fisgrisen]

”Drift” mode, more like a ”slide” mode at best. Sure a fun car but I would like more power maybe then the drift mode would be more useful

[@Elrafau]

great adverisment to show how bad the most sporitiest golf understeer

[@uwesenft9304]

Moin Misha, ich mag jedes Viedeo von dir, weil man bei dir hauptsächlich etwas über die Kunst des Fahrens erfährt. Natürlich gefallen mir auch Dinge über das Tunen, interessantes Handwerk, ausgeklügelte Techniken und auch sowas wie deinen Misha 2 Kanal. Und ganz nebenbei lerne ich noch etwas Englisch😊. Ps. Ich habe viel Spaß beim Zuschauen, lg.Uwe🖖🖖

[@DornishVintage]

Mischa, would it shock you to know that knowing how to drift is a basic test to pass a driver's license in Sweden? Icy roads up there, you need to know how to handle them. At least it used to be back in my day. These days they might rely more on the cars' systems.

[@theanswer1879]

Misha, how do you compare it to i30N

[@awfulphotographer]

if it was garbage compared to the mk8 then it’s even more garbage compared to the mk8.5

[@TheTechnoaddict]

​@@awfulphotographersince when is the i30n garbage compared to the mk8? The i30n is one of the best driver cars from the last 10 years.

[@awfulphotographer]

@@TheTechnoaddict car just sounds cool unfortunately. had both, tracked both.

[@TheTechnoaddict]

@@awfulphotographer tested them both on track. The i30n had way more feedback and wasn't as understeery as the mk8. The mk8 was so boring to drive.

[@awfulphotographer]

@@TheTechnoaddict testing is one thing, owning is another

[@9to5high]

did they bring back the og vw logo?

[@martinchapman2168]

Good video

[@tomellingham8627]

Golfs are Ace.

[@JESUSsaves997]

If Misha would learn how to drift then it would make you a better driver in the future.

[@raphaelcazenave-leveque7991]

Impressive 🎉

[@pakkinen]

you can do that with an old peugeot 205 without any help from electronics

[@pakkinen]

@@RandomAccessMemoryloss you are too young to know xD

[@yct6956]

updated to 50fps, very good

[@flavourinyourear]

are you interested in having drift practice in the future in general? As you said, you are a grip driver and thats where you are very very professional and fast. I noticed in some laps where you lost the rear end of a viewers car, that you could benefit from having the ability to "slide" out of some accidental oversteer situations. Dont take this as criticism, i would love to see you power oversteer (by accident :P) in future videos

[@AI-Records24]

Exactly. Don’t have to like drift but it’ll certainly make you a better grip driver. I love drifting, also gives me the confidence to know when the back comes round I can handle it and I love balancing the car on the edge of its grip level whilst grip driving the ring and other tracks.

[@TheTechnoaddict]

I would expect he would at least be able to do a decent powerslide with the time he spends behind the wheel and on track. And the "i'm a grip driver" is 2 easy. Know loads of track drivers that can easily do a drift when asked or needed. This just shows what i see in all of his vids. Lack of throttle and steering control.

[@proffpuff]

He is a racing driver ffs does he really need the nanny leading 😂

[@TheTechnoaddict]

Did u see him try to a donut? Would expect a lot more from a race car driver.