Missing 411 | The Missing Men of Mount Rainier

[@TheLoreLodge]

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[@VocalHero86]

@TheLoreLodge Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-AL-up," with the emphasis on "AL" and with "AL" being pronounced like "Al Sharpton" ... Dont ask me why i chose his name specifically to explain it, your guess is as good as mine lmao. And thank you for doing a video about M411 in my hometown-ish! Reppin Tacoma 253 baybee :D

[@thesasquatch303]

nah dude your hate for david is ruining your channel especially since hes never claimed to know what the phenomenon is your baseless knit picking attack (cause its definitely not appropriate criticism) on a fellow researcher is shamefull used to like your channel for well done thought out research but your covering on missing 411 just aint it bro

[@matthewcline5040]

@@thesasquatch303so peer reviewing and bringing light to evidence that didn’t exist prior when it was published. That’s hate. Calling out misinformation or misunderstandings isn’t hate. It’s correcting information. Tell me you don’t watch his videos without telling me.

[@Skelstoolbox]

always skip over the "native history" of every story, mostly just to get back to the actual story, and why I clicked in the first place, lol.

[@DlK69]

Hey aiden the advice that your German Teacher gave you is correct... If you would ask the place you're at "könnte ich die Rechnung haben" before you payed they would just Look at your like a weirdo because getting the "Rechnung" needs to happen after paying. But generally speaking i would advice to never ask for the "Rechnung" because giving out "Rechnungen" makes it impossible for them to "optimize" on the amount of Taxes. Taxation is theft.

[@JE4-1]

Dear Aidan, you need to look into the disappearances on Mount Nyangani Mountain in Zimbabwe. Tons of people disappear on that mountain and no one knows why. It's such a huge problem, that the GOVERNMENT installed cameras (!) on the mountain and if you want to hike there you need 1. A guide and 2. your mobile phone needs to be fully charged. And yet people still go missing and the most baffling thing is that this should be impossible because the mountain is a PLATEAU where people can be seen easily. The circumstances in which people disappear are typically missing 411 cases. Not long ago 2 boys disappeared out of a group (!) and were found dead in shallow water and the place where they were found had been searched before. Hell, a whole delegation from India disappeared there for days and when they were found they didn't even know that they were missing for such a long time. They thought it was just a few hours. The shamans living around the mountain are saying that it's a holy place and warn travelers that they need to follow certain rules or otherwise they will disappear. 2 of these rules are: 1. Don't wear red or bright clothes and 2. if you see something that's really strange/unusual: Pretend you didn't see it and walk away - never ever go investigate or you disappear. This isn't just some African shamans saying this, the same rules are found all around the world like Asia, Europe and in the US like the Appalachians. That these rules exist all over the world is not a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why so many people disappear is that they didn't know about rule number 2 I just mentioned.Nyangani

[@mecahhannah]

That is what I was thinking too I hope they do cover it!

[@khillsy4489]

No, it will turn out everyone was wrong except this guy.

[@exiledark6573]

If you hear your name being called, another human in the distance crying out for help, or see anything strange or unusual happen and you react to it, you’re in big trouble. Also, don’t let them know your name.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Cult of kidnapping shamans?

[@alexisasheep6554]

Sounds interesting, I always wonder if there's gas that affect people in places like that

[@rhapsody98]

As a mom of a five year old girl, that entire story of "I chased after a squirrel and then when night came I tried to do our bedtime routine" sound absolutely valid. I don't doubt any part of that little girl's story.

[@kooriicolada]

The thing about the heart attack is so true. My dad just thought he'd thrown his back out or something, went to the chiropractor and she checked his blood pressure and told him "you need to get to the hospital". Turns out he was having a heart attack.

[@AshesAshes44]

My mom thought her ulcer was acting up and just rested a few minutes before going back to work. The second heart attack was really bad and we got her to the hospital. She was okay in less time than you'd expect and lived a good two decades longer

[@KatieTirrell]

My dad thought he had a stomach bug. He had a heart attack and we didn’t find out till like 2 months later. Hes fine now but yeah heart attacks can be sneaky

[@SjofnBM1989]

My Aunt didn't even know she had a heart attack until after it was over. She went to the doctor for a scheduled ECG for something else and the doctor was like "I don't see your recent heart attack in your chart what hospital did you go to?" And she was like "hmmm pardon? What heart attack?"

[@KatieTirrell]

@@SjofnBM1989 that’s pretty much what happened to my dad. Saw his cardiologist for a regular appointment and sure enough it was not a stomach flu back in December

[@marhawkman303]

@@KatieTirrell yeah, my grandfather had several heart attacks. The first was a minor inconvenience but made him feel very unwell for a day.

[@nickperri6571]

Boeing’s hitman, finishing this video, breaths a sigh of relief that his already busy schedule won’t have to get any busier

[@pandat581]

When i heard he was a boeing engineer I immediately went "welp, we know what happened to that guy"

[@M167A1]

Bigfoot works for Boeing?

[@AverageAlien]

@@pandat581 nonsensical conspiracy

[@lykonic1763]

Idk why but I read this in the Stanley Parable narrator voice and it was oddly fitting

[@paulsansonetti7410]

​@@AverageAlien Yeah 3 whistleblowers turning up dead ,but let's still give the war criminals and baby killers an incredible benefit of the doubt You sound like a moral cripple GFU Repeatedly Infinitum

[@SavannahWilliams-yu5on]

Pleeeeaaase don’t ever stop doing the history segment! I ADORE the lore, but it means more with the yore.

[@Peacebunnie]

THIS

[@QuitYoJibby-JabbinFool]

AMAZING COMMENT 👏

[@marcuscrowell6964]

Nice

[@scarling9367]

As an EMT, cardiovascular issues can be sudden and have weird presentation. Both of my mother's heart attacks presented like the flu. I've seen folks complain about back pain, anxiety, or just headaches - it's not just referred pain in the arm like many think.

[@morgancorl1508]

I never can get over “ muscle mommy big foot” it’s my favorite thing

[@amandamazing]

Same! 😂

[@EthanPerales.]

Mmmm 🤤

[@mikemurphy5898]

Lmao... Adam seemed so pissed when he said "ya know what? Go ahead!"

[@minihalkoja590]

Would. Definitely would.

[@mikemurphy5898]

I don't get the joke. What is it from? Can someone clue me in please?

[@johnosullivan1480]

The Native American History and Mythology/Folklore is some of my favorite stuff you do. I’ve never heard so much on these subjects. It’s fascinating. Your presentation of the material is not only easily digested but is also delightfully delicious.

[@melaniejohnson4378]

yes!! he makes it so digestible

[@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory]

Just a note, we don’t call the practices & beliefs of modern religions “myth,” we call it “cosmology.” I recently realized I was making a horrible error, so I’m here to share. I almost used the term wrong while presenting directly on plains culture religious beliefs. Many, many traditional native religions survived colonization and are practiced today. It’s great news, but, unless one is being an atheist edgelord, the term is cosmology. If you only care about the native people of the 1800s, btw, that’s really gross.

[@johnosullivan1480]

@@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory Thank you.

[@theriveroftruth]

“pew-ALL-up” is the pronunciation i hear the most for Puyallup. i had never seen that word until i moved up here and constantly needed correction on it lmfao. same thing with Seqium actually being pronounced “squim”

[@wimpy360]

You're correct. Lived here my entire life, not too far from Puyallup actually. He does correct himself, as in an earlier video he did pronounce Sequim as it's spelled, but a later video he pronounced it correctly (Squim). It's nice to see that he tries.

[@angelatait270]

Some people say “poo- y’all- up” and it drives me up a wall and they’re alleged “locals”

[@GraceStone-st9tc]

came to comment this lol

[@carlpage9259]

Ditto 😂

[@m1k0h]

I could always tell someone wasn’t from Washington when they tried to pronounce it, or especially my hometown Steilacoom.

[@emexdizzy]

You apologize too much for the history segments. They're good. A big reason I stuck around and subbed. If you like 'em, keep doing them, because it can't just be me enjoying them.

[@thedrinkinggames9573]

Same. History is my jam, and I love that it's not just "American" history, but also history of the people who lived there. Not many people include that and it's great.

[@oneofthefallen2001]

Same it makes the video

[@apho-sappho]

Plus it's so simple to just skip them if you don't like them/aren't feeling it that day. Especially with youtube's sections thing

[@jmartens759]

It's pronounced "Pew all up". Also, the mossy old man story sounds like it's describing a Lahar caused by an eruption

[@eeh1239]

When you said “which for some reason involved taking her clothes off and putting them back on” I thought it would’ve been her ‘putting on her pajamas’. A five year old trying to do their night routine may not realize that putting on pjs and just putting on your same clothes again aren’t the same thing lol

[@ItsJustChri5]

yea i thought the same lol

[@TonyTheCarrot]

That’s a good theory. I’ve seen kids with that logic

[@CambrianAquarium]

I can't give the video my full attention until later tonight so I'm just going to play this in the background to help yall with the algorithm.

[@francinesmith1889]

Commenting for that reason 👍

[@lostandlost519]

Same

[@sanguinebrood3194]

Algo

[@culturebreath369]

I do this for streamers all the time. Put em on tab! Jump in when ya can. ❤

[@indianawormstead2936]

Yes me too

[@benjamingentry2866]

I think most of the disappearances have to do with glaciers. In many Alaskan tribes' legends, glaciers are living things that have been rumored to literally swallow people whole. Since glaciers can move up to five feet an hour, a shifting glacier could easily have "swallowed" a person and, while it moved, closed the crevasse they fell into. This is a plausible explanation. On that note, "If you hear hoofbeats, it's probably a horse, not a zebra," seems relevant. This saying means that, even though there are unreasonable explanations, the most likely explanation is usually the correct one...until you rule out the "horse."

[@TonyTheCarrot]

That’s a really good theory

[@justinmulcahy7470]

I live near the bottom of Mt Rainier in Ashford. My family has lived here since the 80s. It's a scenic and beautiful area, and depending on who you ask up here you get one of three awnsers: People who have legit seen things, people spinning a yarn just because it's funny to them, and people who look at you like a you ate one too many questionable fungi. My aunts have stories, my mom has stories, my granddad has stories although he will never explain a thing. This place truly is different.

[@SquiddyInvicta]

We have bears, cougars, deer, elk and lots of other large wildlife. Ive been camping and hunting these woods since I was 5 and I don’t think we have anything supernatural. There is just a special feeling of vulnerability in our woods because of how thick they are, yet I imagine that feeling persists in like areas worldwide.

[@thebarbecube317]

24:18 being an Eagle Scout isn’t enough to assume he’s well trained in wilderness survival. I’m an Eagle Scout and I’m a very novice camper. Wouldn’t consider myself a wilderness survivalist at all

[@PopeOf420]

Ayyyy I am an Eagle Scout as well

[@thomasmorgan9768]

Eagle here too! But honestly I think it depends on your region, district, and troop.

[@thebarbecube317]

@@thomasmorgan9768 yeah but like that’s what I’m saying it turns into an “it depends.” It’s not a huge point either way I just wanted to clarify that not all Eagle Scouts are wilderness survivalist types lol

[@PopeOf420]

I definitely was trained to be lol but then again I'm from Utah'rdia so it kinda comes with the territory

[@jamesknapp64]

As a fellow Eagle Scout who taught Wilderness Surval Merit Badge at Boy Scout Camp. The vast majority of Eagle Scouts are horrible at Wilderness survival in my experience

[@Jyiber]

There's a phenomenon known around Rainier called Lahar where when the mountain kicks up volcanic activity all the ice and snow flash melts and all the surrounding valleys are in danger of having 10-30ft wall of water, mud, and picked up trees pass through them. Also, Pyuallup is pronounced Pew-all-up.

[@agiovanna7605]

As a future historian myself I have to say I absolutely love that the history sections are a thing! Having that additional context is just so neat. Also as a European it's extra cool that the sections mostly cover Native American history because it's not a topic that comes up often in my own studies!

[@cojanemanuel8319]

That's my favourite part of the video because I know most of the missing 411 cases but I don't know native american history at all

[@Trickaz94]

Don't take anything from him as fact, he is a religious guy from America, those people don't tell you the actual historic facts, they just feed you religious propaganda

[@fattdamon1980]

if you guys like native American/early us history you should check out "wild west extravaganza" and "history at the ok corral". WWE is my favorite and he has a sense of humor I appreciate but isn't for everyone and ok corral is more serious. Both are incredibly interesting though.

[@reefsroost696]

​@@fattdamon1980 Thanks for the info.

[@fattdamon1980]

@@reefsroost696 you're welcome. They're great channels but underrated. KZbin doesn't push stuff that's educational or interesting like that enough, it's all drake vs Kendrick and reaction channels.

[@lignjahal]

The mountain looms large over the entire area and you can only get 1/3 up the mountain by car. I actually know about someone who vanished without a trace from a facility at the base of Mt. Rainier. It’s a massive area and not being able to find people there isn’t surprising. While there might not be a cluster for 411 there, it’s still a place with sorrowful mysteries.

[@mattjack3983]

You are definitely right about that. Anyone who has ever been to Rainier would easily be able to understand how someone could go missing there. I personally believe that he had some kind of accident which prompted to him to unhook himself from his rope to head back down the mountain, and on the way he became incapacitated and was covered by snow. Regardless of what exactly happened, and what it was that lead to him unhooking himself from the rope, I'm almost certain that no one could find him because he fell in a crevasse and/or got covered in snow.

[@BUBBLESPOGO]

Maybe he had to take an urgent dump......just saying, then fell

[@Pencilshaving]

@@BUBBLESPOGO ngl no one brings up stuff like that but I think it almost every time

[@macey6004]

i never comment on videos but man you are the only real youtuber i have found in my many years of searching. it’s always the clickbait, making stories bigger than they truly are, making every little detail seem like a mystery. you are raw and try to find the most plausible conclusion before jumping to some out of this world disappearance. i’m a huge believer in bigfoot and aliens and all that but the stories i hear always sound way more than it really is. i’m so glad i found your channel!

[@Enzar17]

Heart attacks are quite insidious. My roommate died of a heart attack two years ago, from a heart condition that he didn't know about. He made no noise when it happened. Our other roommate was 10 feet away, in his room. Heard nothing. Was awful :(

[@breckenmerrill3252]

I'm so sorry for your loss 🫂

[@thefisherking78]

Prominence is real. I will remember till the day I die the first time I saw Rainier. I was on a train from Portland to start college in Seattle in 1996 and we came around a bend.. and my jaw literally dropped. That peak is like nothing I've ever seen. To this day, every time I'm near it, I look for it.

[@nmxsanchez]

Similar experience coming from Phoenix last week to live here in Bellevue. What an incredible mountain, like nothing I've seen in Arizona. Only thing that compares in awe inspiring, jaw dropping beauty is the grand canyon in my opinion. Just a stunningly beautiful state.

[@thisismaribethe]

Idk who has been in your ear, but the fact that I’m going to get a history lesson that usually has little to do with the case…is actually why I enjoy your channel! I always learn new things!

[@ConfidentCupcake]

As a german I can approve what you said. Most of the time if you want to pay you just raise your hand to a waiter/waitress and ask them: 1. Entschuldung. Kann ich bezahlen. 2. Zahlen, bitte. Or 3. Ich würde gerne bezahlen. Which means: 1. Excuse me, can I pay. 2. Pay(check), please. 3. I would like to pay.

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Just don't mention the war

[@matthewdevalle404]

@@derekmcmanus8615 I did once, but I think I got away with it.

[@e.b.squared]

I spent over a year in Norway and it’s cool how similar so many words are between Norway/Sweden/Denmark, German, French, and English. The word for “pay” in German (bezahlen) is similar to “pay” (betale) in Norwegian. I just find it interesting and intriguing. Then I went to Finland and threw all my knowledge of language out the window 😂

[@daRiddler32]

​@e.b.squared Norway and Denmark were constantly taking over Germany, Germany took over Britain in the 1600s so much so that King George I only spoke German. Finnish is very close to Old Scandinavian (how the pagan Vikings would have spoken)

[@derekmcmanus8615]

@@e.b.squared 'gift' words are an amazing facet of modern language

[@AmandaW1169]

I absolutely love your channel!! The way you tell the story, quick intro, your cadence , your intelligence and the way you deep dive actual facts and most of all your humor. It's my favorite!! Thank you for all of it.

[@yes0r787]

Yes!

[@slayerkifonna6831]

I love how the history segments are about Native American history and beliefs. They deserve to have their history preserved like the rest of American history.

[@heyitsfranklynn168]

I'll say this- I've spent my entire life hanging out on Mt Rainier and tacoma. With friends and alone. But never off the beaten path. I've done a TINY amount of exploring a few times, and it is shocking how fast you're completely lost. It never really scared me but I always knew how insane of a risk that would be. I totally understand how people could disappear or how there could be feral people there. Also- PEW- like church pew, AL- pronounced like Alfred, UP- Like the opposite of down. Some people say pew-all-up

[@gnmidnight1191]

All and al from Alfred are different sounds so this part at least is not helpful

[@melanie_meanders]

@@gnmidnight1191they’re saying some people say it that way, so its said both ways.

[@nataliesiddle8507]

NEVER stop the history lessons. I’ve learned so much about the original inhabitants of the Americas and the Nations they were part of, plus you approach each case with the same sort of healthy scepticism I can relate to

[@Coridimus]

The history sections are a big part of what sets your work heads-and-shoulders above that of similar channels, sir. Please keep doing them!

[@jennieB1973]

I love the history segments so please don’t stop making them! All your shows are so well done. I love this channel!!!!

[@SpaceCaptnFace]

Mountaineer Ed Viesturs goes in depth with HAPE and HACE incidents on Ranier. He personally witnessed people falling off it due to bad decisions and has been involved in numerous rescues and was a guide up there for years. Side note... Prior to heading to Alaska, some good Mt Denali reading is Denalis Howl. About a climbing disaster caused by crazy ass weather.

[@evergone7737]

your channel combines my two greatest interests: anthropological history and “supernatural” disappearances. please never remove the history segments, they’re probably my favorite part. i would watch a channel of you guys just doing history!

[@Ryo7_7]

There are many native tribes that have a similar flood story in their passed. Some of the Spanish priests have noted this fact when spreading the gospel to some tribes in North and Middle America.

[@pamelamorgan7354]

Returning to the Lower 48 from Alaska, we drove through British Columbia. I’d heard about Sasquatch. Going from the bathroom to the camper alone and late at night I felt an eeriness that scared me so much! It could have been my imagination or a different kind of threat existed. This was in 1971 and I’ll never forget that feeling!

[@lunaoak6741]

I like the history section! It’s actually my favorite part

[@joec.9591]

Many years ago I worked with a woman of First Nation ancestry. The subject of Sasquatch once came up in conversation, and she told me that when she was a little girl, there had been a Bigfoot sighting in town near to where she lived in WA State. She was very close to her grandmother, and asked her about it. Her grandmother told her, "O, we don't bother those people. We have lived with them a very long time. We let them be, and they let us be." I’ve never forgotten that.

[@ancientmingyu0604]

Dear Aiden, as a German I was thoroughly amused by your German. You did a great job, thanks for having an interest in my mother tongue! It really warms my heart to see people enjoying or liking the language I grew up speaking. Great video, love your channel! Much love from Germany!

[@dagmaranja888]

Dem stimme ich zu ❤

[@ancientmingyu0604]

@@dagmaranja888 Eeeeey noch eine deutsche Kartoffel 🥰 Hoffe, du hast einen super Tag gehabt! LG

[@dagmaranja888]

@@ancientmingyu0604 auch noch wach? 😅

[@spit_soup]

on the heart attack/panic attack train of thought, my dad has a consistent arrhythmia from having untreated sleep apnea so he has the spray to help if hes feeling odd. onto the actual relevant parts, him and my mom had come home from seeing a concert and as we were watching a show he began feeling very odd, specifically struggling to breathe fully and his chest hurting. we ended up calling 911 because if his initial heart problems and the slightly increased chance of him having a heart attack. while we were waiting my mom was trying to calm him down saying it was probably a panic attack ir anxiety attack (which it was) but he was 100% convinced it had to be a heart attack. after he got checked and he first responders left we all recognized that him believing si adamantly that it was a heart attack was due ti the panic attack. because in retrospect he realised that he definitely wasnt having a heart attack. idk just thought itd be a good thing to share since it relates to the illogical thinking thing during panic attacks

[@MRxtremLEE99]

I'm hiking Rainer in late July, so I'm a bit spooked that this video just so happened to come out now haha

[@blacklight-RIOT]

rest in peace :)

[@justadildeau]

Bring peanut butter for the samsquanch

[@mambisa2690]

Bruh…don’t do it

[@NanaBren]

Safer to be in a group. Be alert and aware. The terrain is apparently tricky.

[@Lunch_Meat]

Be fair, you are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the park than you are to die on the mountain.

[@CuriousMouseExploration]

Also, I enjoy your history lessons before going into your cases. They are an excellent way to educate the public on things they will NEVER learn in school.

[@VocalHero86]

@TheLoreLodge Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-AL-up," with the emphasis on "AL" and with "AL" being pronounced like "Al Sharpton" ... Dont ask me why i chose his name specifically to explain it, your guess is as good as mine lmao. And thank you for doing a video about M411 in my hometown-ish! Reppin Tacoma 253 baybee :D

[@HelloByeLetsNot]

I paused and had to tell my wife how he was saying it. 360 reppin. 😂

[@christianlowman2698]

206

[@willisverynice]

That’s funny, I’m from Seattle and I had no idea he was even trying to pronounce puyallup lol

[@FranklyRanunculus]

Gotta disagree. It's pew-AWL-up!

[@VocalHero86]

​@@FranklyRanunculushonestly I was thinking of editing that pronunciation as a 2nd version because for me personally the way I pronounce it depends entirely on the sentence I'm using it in, but they're so similar I figured 'meh.'

[@Mark-nh2hs]

Being from the UK I find the history sections fascinating as we are not taught indigenous American history. Love these sections.

[@NicknotNak]

39:39 Halq'eméylem (anglicised to Halkomelem) is pronounced halk-uh-MAY-lum. Otherwise, I always love the history sections, and I'm glad to hear about the Coast Salish people finally! I love to hear about the legends I grew up learning online for others to learn about.

[@benjaminwingert434]

I love the historical segments you do at the start some of the most interesting parts of the videos for me please dont stop 😅

[@GKNW]

The Pacific Northwest is an amazingly weird place. More content about it please!

[@emexdizzy]

Grew up here, can agree, it's definitely amazing and weird. One of my fave bits of local folklore is about the Douglas firs that are the ubiquitous mainstays of the temperate rainforests here and why their cones look the way they do with trident bracts projecting from between the scales. Story goes there was a forest fire and the mice could not outrun the flames so they cried out to the trees "oh great firs, please shelter us!" and the firs agreed and opened up their cones for the mice to hide in, and that's why to this day there's little bracts sticking out that look like a mouse's butt with the tail and hindlegs as they jumped inside to hide.

[@emexdizzy]

All, try the salmonberries, they won't hurt you, just try them, I promise, no, I'm not gonna tell you what it tastes like before you do, just try the things. First time tasting face is hilarious, the confusion that "raspberry but it's orange" doesn't taste like you expect is fucking hilarious.

[@BrokensoulRider]

Can agree. Just make sure you avoid the banjo-playing tree ninjas that have shotguns. I lived in the North Kitsap area and dear god.

[@mirandaboettger3554]

@@emexdizzydid you ever get nightmares from eating salmon berries? That’s always been what we say but no idea if it’s true!

[@fjalling]

​@@BrokensoulRiderWhere were they?! I am too familiar with the area; fortunately not them!

[@AnonymouslyChosen777]

Bro this dude is so slick with the sponsors he start talking about speaking German and I’m over here like thinkin it’s apart of the history lesson of this story LMAOAOAOOAOAO then he busts out “BABBLE” and I’m like oh well nvm MOVING ONNN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@kruksog]

Cool to see two young guys doing such good work. Really impressive. I love the historical/ native histories. Never stop. Cheers and thank you.

[@davidmartinstowe6842]

At first I didn't like the History part but now I realize that's what makes this channel so special.

[@scarling9367]

Right, there's only so many times I can hear the same story told. At least he's got a history niche with some eccentric banter.

[@dangerxbadger2300]

Of course you plug the Alaska trip right as I get a new job and can't take any time off for the next 6 months. Damn you aiden! I hope that this trip goes well and this becomes either an annual or multi-time per year kind of thing that continues! Basically, I hope this isn't a one-and-done kind of opportunity because that would make me a very sad panda

[@bokrugthewaterserpent3012]

The idea that you "loose" and not "fire" arrows is a modern thing tbh, both are accurate

[@AnarchyIsLove]

I love the history sections, even if the history ends up unrelated to the main story. Is somethin that got me hooked on this channel

[@Joseph-sv2hk]

The history lessons are my favorite part! Please keep it up

[@Kaotiqua]

You mentioned the "loomie" people, by which I presume you meant the Lhaq'temish, the Lummi People, which is pronounced "LUH-mee". Love your stories, and the depth of your research is really impressive!

[@angelaprzeszlowski536]

I have been living close to Tacoma for a few years and really enjoyed the history lesson. I never skip the history lesson at the beginning because I find them equally as interesting as the second part of the video. You always make it easy for me to understand and follow. Thank you.

[@nightrunnerxm393]

16:10 ...I'm guessing you've never tried hiking through snow at high elevation before. Climbing over rocks is no joke, especially in the cold and on a steep incline, but moving through deep snow is a whole different kind of challenge. It's tough to move through, especially when it's more than a foot or so deep, and it'll wear you out in ways that can be hard to predict, especially with thin air at high elevation complicating things. You can get a good idea of what it's like by trying to run underwater at your local pool instead of swimming. That's basically what hiking through even knee deep snow is like at elevation.

[@iounno]

Hey Aidan, longtime fan and local to this region. I see others have commented on pronunciation but I wanted to clear up some confusion I think you may have had, but correct me if I’m mistaken. The Vancouver being spoken about is actually Vancouver, WA which was settled before Vancouver, B.C. and is to the south of Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helen’s. It was called Fort Vancouver and was the headquarters of the Hudson Bay Company for the region. The Chehalis reservation is also not in B.C., but north of Vancouver and directly west of Mt. Rainier. Locals often make the drive here for 4th of July fireworks. Love the video as always and especially the Native history.

[@andrewkelley9405]

*but why was your German teacher banned from Poland???*

[@bompsychompsy]

He insisted there was a November 31st.

[@somethingelse4424]

Maybe he was making inappropriate territorial claims to the Sudetenland?

[@K.TheSurvivalist]

He likes paintings.

[@somethingelse4424]

@truegemuese Oh, yes of course. That's what I meant to say 😂

[@j.frassato1646]

I just wanted to say that I am so grateful for having found this channel. For so long, l have been looking for a channel exactly like this one. l love listening to missing persons cases and your voice is one that I can actually listen to for long periods of time lol. Thanks to you and all the "behind the scenes" people for everything you do and for how well you all do it.

[@Jane_8319]

My friend is coming down from Rainier where he works to celebrate my 21st birthday with me today. Thank you for the fitting (if morbid) video Lore Lodge!

[@EricThompsonClimber]

I've climbed with JR Storms as have many other good climbers in the PNW. Storms is a good man and solid. He told me about this incident when we climbed. He and the missing guy had different ideas on which way to go back to camp. Camp was due east only 400 meters or so but between tham and camp was a steep and dangerous gully with deep crevasses. Storms wanted to climb above the feature and the missing guy wanted to cross it. Storms is very fit and keeping up with him is hard. The guy unhooked himself and tried his own way and fell into a feature. End of story. Mt Rainier is no safe place for anyone, even very experienced climbers die there. If you go up as a rank amateur, unguided and wonder out on snow your odds are frankly bad. If you need beta on Washington State cases get at me.

[@michaeljohnston6856]

i like the history section. thanks for the dedication to accuracy

[@KairiPrime]

As a Geology nerd, I hate the term “dormant volcano” because, scientifically, there is no such thing. A volcano is either active or dead. Any volcano that still has molten magma in its chamber, is active. It doesn’t matter that the last eruption of Mt Rainier was in 1450, it is still an ACTIVE volcano, it still has molten magma in it’s chamber and it WILL erupt again. Just because composite cones can take thousands of years between eruptions at times, does not mean they are not still very active in terms of Geology.

[@GoddessofWisdom]

2:33 Idk if people give you shit for the history segment or what, but PLEASE don't stop doing them - I love them, love the bulk they add to the video and the context they add to the story!!

[@astro1322]

Living near Mt Rainier and hiking in the park many times I can attest that it is a very easy place to get lost and possibly die. in the lower elevations you have very dense forest valleys that are very rugged terrain, you have fast flowing river and creeks, and tones of predators and scavengers such as bears, coyotes, and cougars. up on the higher sections of the park and the mountain it's self their are tones of almost vertical drop offs and tones of lose rocks where one miss step can send you sliding hundreds of feet. And those ice fields and glaciers are very dangerous. cavasses that can go down a hundred feet. Not to mention avalanches and rock falls. I could easily see how someone going off trail even if it's not that far could get very disoriented and end up dead. Stay on the trail and in designated areas!!!

[@hobosarepeopletoo]

I had a coworker who had a heart attack for two days before she went to the doctor. She just thought she was sick

[@Aileil]

Oh, geez, that must've been rough. :(

[@kaitlint3987]

It's good seeing people actually trained in things, putting in an effort to teach people in a way that's more fun and expanded.

[@iamhealthy4068]

37:15 teaching point. Heart attack is death in the heart wall cells. Heart failure is the cessation of all heart activity (no electrical pulse). These are two different medical problems, not one and the same.

[@rebeccaleegabbard]

My mom's first boyfriend was climbing Tahoma in the 70's and they will never even find his body. He fell down a crevasse and since a glacier is constantly moving, there's just no way to ever find the bodies of the group.

[@pradnyachoukekar]

11:50 the flood myth is a common feature among multiple cultures around the world because a massive flood did happen towards the end of the ice age around 12,000 years ago.

[@michaelross1452]

It's specifically called the Younger-Dryas event. Ice core samples from 12k to 13k years ago show lots of temperature changes happening. A celestial body impact(asteroid or broken up comet) happening is becoming less of conjecture and more of a working hypothesis. But it's still a work in progress. So more info will be coming as its studied on by mainstream science.

[@kcairns1]

This

[@TrixyTheWonderDog]

I can't remember if this was mentioned before but, the child's clothing being on "wrong" could just be her going through the motions of "getting ready for bed." Kids know that they have day clothes and they have pj's for bedtime. She didn't have anything else to change into so she went through the process of "getting ready for bed" and put her day clothes back on. Kids are very straight forward when they have routines, this is what you do at this time, for this situation.

[@ItsJustChri5]

i thought that as well.

[@DJBruceCash]

He got banned from Poland for asking for his bill so aggressively

[@CABcaitlin]

For the flood stories, the University of Hull in the UK is just beginning a multidisciplinary project, involving historians, geologists, hydrologists, anthropologists etc. They're studying how the movement of water has affected cross-cultural belief and trying to find the link between the multiple great flood stories around the world (there are quite a few). It's called Great Flood Stories and What They Teach Us!

[@Keith_Rothwell]

I need to tell everyone we have a city called Tillicum. That is all. We also have a Humptulips.

[@ten_of_diamonds7575]

"From there they made their way to camp misery" Wow, I'd never expect anything bad to happen there

[@CanuckWolfman]

If the Aidens get abducted by Sasquatch in Alaska, do you suppose that Wendigoon will cover the case?

[@TwoPawz-13]

If you haven’t gone to Alaska yet, I bet you will be surprised of all the bears in your camp site. I m from Alaska and they are not something to take lightly as I have friends who been mauled by bears, and hope you make it back with all your parts .

[@TheLoreLodge]

Yeah we're lobbying to be allowed to bring our handguns.

[@NewNewColt]

Puyallup is pronounced Pew-al-up by locals.

[@solalabell9674]

Second this it is indeed

[@comhaltacht315]

8:00 I was born here in Washington and I can confirm Puyallup is pronounced “Pyoo-al-up” I have no idea why it’s spelled that way. Also Yakima is “Yakim-aw” not “Yakim-uh”

[@candicehiles729]

One of my best friends has lived in Yakima all her life and says the second way

[@comhaltacht315]

@@candicehiles729 that’s not your friend, that’s a skinwalker

[@candicehiles729]

@@comhaltacht315 very well could be. She shares my birthday

[@geoffreymiller9831]

Couldn’t have said it better myself

[@finsternis1986]

I used to live with someone from the Yakama tribe (there's a whole thing about Yakama/Yakima), and met his family once, and they all said it like "YAK-uh-ma". Last syllable sort of in between "uh" and "ah", but closer to "uh". Idk. 🤷‍♂ They also switched out "g" and "k" sounds a lot. "The phone was rinKing."

[@arcblooper2699]

Eric sounds very much like he was experiencing delirium from hypoxia due to the exertion and low oxygen. It probably caused him to unclip and wander off.

[@truth528]

I think there’s probably a lot of people living out in the wild. There’s an entire demographic of people living “wild” on our streets and parks in every city. I’d have to imagine some of them would rather head to the mountains. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ValerieAnnHorn-Ross-mx4cv]

🇬🇧 I have to say, when I was 5 yrs old I could climb a tree like a monkey! I lived in a rural village in Northumberland in UK, all us kids could walk for miles, climb trees & build camps, we young ones learned from the older ones. In Summer we',d leave home with our bottles of water & sandwiches & we'd be away all day. Granted this was the late 1950s but even the older kids were only 8 or 9yrs old. But the majority of us were between 5 & 7yrs. I can vividly remember hiking up pretty steep hillsides & never tiring People don't give young ones the credit to perform quite exerting Feats of climbing & walking. Thanks Again Aiden Peace & Good Cheer 🇬🇧🙋

[@TonyTheCarrot]

You have a good point. Kids today won’t have that opportunity now that we sit in front of screens all day.

[@sharonwhiteley6510]

Never stop including the history portion

[@AquaSteez]

I bought a house 40 Miles from Mt. Rianer. I wake up and see the mountain every day. It’s beauty and its mystery.

[@Quiet1-y9x]

Another possibility is that Eric developed HACE (High Altitude Cerebral Edema), swelling of the brain associated with high altitude and low oxygen levels. This can occur at the elevations he was climbing at,, can be of fairly rapid, insidious onset, and can affect even seasoned climbers. This could cause cognitive impairment and irrational behavior such as unclipping from your safety line and dumping your gear. Aside from death due to inappropriate actions HACE can also be fatal in and of itself. Treatment is to get the person to lower elevations as soon as possible.

[@BelovedDevil]

I love hearing spoopy stories from lore daddy about an area of the country I'm familiar with

[@ThatguyPanda86]

It’s absolutely astounding how almost every culture has a flood myth and many of them are so strikingly similar and on opposite ends of the planet

[@themythhunter9764]

I love the history segment! It's not too long! I like the longer episodes!

[@ichangedmynameforyoutube]

FTR: I’m not watching this video because I’m more interested in the 411 cases than your other videos. It just popped up and I happen to be in the mood for it. You’re videos are all great! Life and mood just get in the way. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@dylanwesley462]

I will pound the table for this until the day i die. You are better than Paulides. You have this uncanny gift for mysterious tragedies that nobody on any platform has. This premiere Lore Lodge content. Please keep these coming! The side quests are great, but every Friday ive been praying for the bread and butter. BOOOOOMMMM. I live in Reading PA. Im 25 minutes away from you! Do it for the mother land!!!

[@coderexe30]

I don't believe Paulides is ill-intentioned, I just think he's gotten away with more or less 'lazy' reporting for years. Now that the 411 phenomenon has gotten the attention of hard-working, deep-digging content producers, he's getting shown up, and details he either missed or left out are getting found.

[@dylanwesley462]

@coderexe30 I think he's just gone to far down the rabbit hole. I'm a believer. I believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, and the paranormal. But not everything is paranormal. He conviently leaves out information that would lend credibility to a plausible explanation to make everything paranormal. UFOs and Bigfoot have been in texts and cultures since the dawn of time really. So it's not far fetched to be a believer. Paulides just cares more about everything being his work so he makes all the money from it than he does actually solving the cases and the people involved. He's the most selfish guy I support. And his KZbin channel reflects it.

[@Solenum756]

I don't know why people complain I love the history section I love hearing more information about wherever it is this thing has happened

[@angelakozell5939]

You are amazing and brilliant. Please keep teaching and building a love of history. I truly value your content and I am very happy you are here. ❤

[@texas-rat-queen]

I don't know who is complaining about the History section, but that is honestly my favorite part of your videos. You do such an amazing job at describing the rich history of the area. I find that the history section always has a lot to do with the lore/story discussed in the video. I appreciate you continuing to do these sections despite some people complaining. Keep up the good work. F*** Penn State

[@princessleiaorgana7238]

I enjoy the history parts! I think if people are getting upset with these it may be because they are so extensive! I appreciate all the hard work put into them.

[@cudaaustin-hunter3475]

Little thing about the chehalis tribe and the location does seem to be off, the chehalis reservation is quite a ways from Vancouver( both bc and Washington). Its more in the area around rochester washington, close to olympia. There is also the town of chehalis about 20 min drive south that the chehalis river runs through. If you are wondering a source for that info its me...i live in Chehalis Washington.

[@Widespread-Panic]

If we sign up for the trip, can you guarantee that there will be Sasquatches?

[@Widespread-Panic]

Or is the the plural of Sasquatch simply Sasquatch, like the word moose? Hmmm...

[@3TurdsInATrenchcoat]

​@@Widespread-Panic I believe it sasqueetch like geese

[@ryankrelic971]

Best they can do is big hairy men.

[@anitaevans5361]

Like regular stalkers, u will not know of being stalked by a sasquatch 99% of the time so it's safe 2 say that they r definitely closer, more often than realized 👣🐾

[@FoundingChambers]

From Washington. The mountain is such a beautiful and ominous site on my morning drives to work. I LOVE the history segments btw. I live in olympia and im surrounded by local Tribes/reservations and didn't know much about the history besides a few minor points I was taught in school. Edit: Also how we all hear and say it is phonetically pew-al-up. But that could be how us Colonizers say it 😅

[@NormalDennis]

never stop the history stuff. it's so good.

[@cynthiabeck1563]

Ok Aiden, I live in Northwesr Washington state. An hours drive from the Mt Baker National forest. There is a Hotspot for "sounds, sightings and activity " possible Bigfoot. We have been up there made calls, tree knocks and left gifts. I'm for real and there is quite a lot of activity. You should come over to Washington, you may change ur position.

[@wescals6849]

Imagine dying a slow, lonely, and terrifying death. Only for some guy years later saying "bIgFoOt DiD iT". RIP to the souls claimed by the mountains and the forests.

[@Hades-shadow]

Quite dramatic huh? It your time of the month