Missing Rivets? Here's How To Put Raised Rivets On Your Scale Models

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The Empty Sprue

The Empty Sprue

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@idaemonplasmo
@idaemonplasmo 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great technique. I will try it because I always had problems with positive riveting. Thanks, mate. You are wise. 😉
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! THANKS! And thanks so much for the share! SUPER Appreciate it! 😀🙏😎
@victornoel36
@victornoel36 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, brace yourselves, Plasmo is going to do something EPIC!
@64blip
@64blip 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! I saw this and thought "This is just the kind of insane detailing Plasmo would go nuts for," and hey presto here you are! Love your videos. Mr Sprue - top, top work!
@andrewbarton8525
@andrewbarton8525 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Just wow. Well done fella.
@Emtbtoday
@Emtbtoday 3 жыл бұрын
Well proof there's always something new to pick up being an experienced modeler! Love your video's!
@machineman6498
@machineman6498 3 жыл бұрын
At 3 large coffee a day, l can only appreciate this as a viewer.
@daveshaw2765
@daveshaw2765 2 жыл бұрын
I finally got ahold of some .2 MM balls and tried using regular hair spray because that liquid Mousse is expensive online and I couldn't locate a store that sold it locally. Hairspray didn't hold the rivets securely at all. They would brush right off even after a coat of paint. Then I thought of trying to use Future as a fixer. Future worked really well in a small test. The best thing about using the Future was that after a coat of paint the rivets did not pull up after putting a piece of Tamiya tape over it. This technique works! Thanks for sharing.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
That's some good info on using the Future, especially that it was able to stand up to taping! Thanks for watching and the comment!
@tanminghan3450
@tanminghan3450 3 жыл бұрын
Micro solder balls were a good shout out. I was struggling with micro nail beads being just a tad too big so this helped, thanks.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching! Hope you find it useful!
@GB-go6gp
@GB-go6gp 3 жыл бұрын
WoW, it's incredible the things you can learn on KZbin... After graduating from college and accepting my first position as a shiny new engineer, the Chief said to me "like every one of us kid, now you LL understand just how much you don't know
@jeremyhofmann7034
@jeremyhofmann7034 3 жыл бұрын
This tutorial was riveting.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@andremendonca3516
@andremendonca3516 3 жыл бұрын
You're my hero! I bought this balls to add positive rivets on my 1/35 MH-60R, HH-60H, HH-60G. Your tecnique is much more easy and fast that I imagine. For me the music didn't interfere with your instructions during the video. Really thank you.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear it! Yea, the music wasn't everyone's favorite. I didnt think it was THAT loud 🤔😃
@andremendonca3516
@andremendonca3516 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Do you think that if I paint with a black primer before putting the balls in, it will make viewing easier?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
@@andremendonca3516 I would think it would be a little more difficult, simply because the holes will be a little less obvious
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Join the FB group and post some photos!
@adalecarter
@adalecarter 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud your patience!!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!😃👍
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting back into modeling now that I'm approaching retirement and I've been listening to a few podcasts. Things have changed a lot, for the good, but I kept hearing people joking about being a "rivet counter". Now it all makes sense.
@rick_bryant
@rick_bryant 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re approaching retirement you’ll have popped your clogs by the time you’ve added a couple of dozen rivets using that method!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged. But only for my own personal use, I dont "rivet count" other peoples work. As a returning modeler, anything you'd like to see a video on in particular?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Its all about that Optivisor! 😁
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Hopefully you know I'm only joking. My Dad didn't build plastic models but he would be the wooden ship equivalent of a rivet counter. A plank counter maybe? The stuff he did in the 70s and 80s with nothing but hand tools is incredible, museum quality work. I can't imagine what he would be doing today were he still alive with all the myriad of small tools and products available to him now. I enjoy watching and learning all the little tips, even the rivet counting. Easy enough to see full builds on any channel but they are much more useful to me, and others I would assume, if you include details. Products used, stuff you've learned in working with them, what to avoid etc.Full builds have their place too but without the narrative and ins and outs of the products and techniques, it's just entertainment. I wouldn't ask for anything in particular since I have so much to catch up on just keep up the good work!
@blank557
@blank557 3 жыл бұрын
That is hardcore modeling. The smallest rivet work I've ever done is using tiny doll eyes for 40K terrain. Thanks for making this "How to" video.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@lunhil12
@lunhil12 11 ай бұрын
Pretty cool, I didn't know such things as micro solder balls were a thing. I've done larger models by drilling holes and filling with styrene rod, clipping slightly above the surface then lightly sanding the nubs.
@TheWGLOVER
@TheWGLOVER 3 жыл бұрын
That is dedication to the hobby.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks William! The part on the video is for my super detailed F-105 build. Kind of one if those - "let see how far I can push it" kind of builds 🙂👍
@timothyperrigoue3997
@timothyperrigoue3997 3 жыл бұрын
I am delighted to see this! While you are an aviation modeler, it is just as useful to railroad, armor, and fantasy modelers. Definitely will be using this solution for my steampunk machinery.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@megazone2337
@megazone2337 3 жыл бұрын
i just started rivet works 2 months ago but this is a great technique i ever see.tqvm sharing your great work.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vietnammodeling
@vietnammodeling 3 жыл бұрын
That's clever Brian. One trick to remember.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rene! Glad to see a familiar "face" over here! 🙂
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a man whose job it is to make REAL rivets to this scale and then upset them, I watched this and thought... "I wish!!!" Good job all the same mon ami... You nailed it! (Pun intended) 😉🏆⚒️🇬🇧
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Wonlongpong
@Wonlongpong 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for demonstrating the technique. However, I found it difficult to hear what you were saying due to the background music.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, thank you
@jhrykkjutku
@jhrykkjutku 3 жыл бұрын
You should buy one of those Warhammer hand-drills. They're awesome to drill tiny holes...
@argeancomics3291
@argeancomics3291 3 жыл бұрын
What an exercice of patience. Modelers are close to nirvana.
@GortonaGaming
@GortonaGaming 3 жыл бұрын
They look a little bit over sized on the plane, but must be awesome in a Mad-Max, Mechwarrior or Orc-based theme! I used small plastic balls I found in standard household-water filters for the same purpose. They stick very well and the top of the rivets can be sanded off a bit for a realistic look.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@mingmingandmikki
@mingmingandmikki 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really great technique! Thank you!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bradleywhit8159
@bradleywhit8159 3 жыл бұрын
My anxiety just went through the roof just thinking about doing this.
@nicolaisen1
@nicolaisen1 3 жыл бұрын
I see more Lexapro in my future!
@hassanali2208
@hassanali2208 3 жыл бұрын
this is amazing thank you so much for this i need to positive rivets for a 1/48 mi 24 because i got a ton of aftermarket parts with raised rivets and this technique will improve it a lot.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, it's a nice trick to have in your pocket
@jlcsr9163
@jlcsr9163 2 жыл бұрын
Me too the Zvezda Mi-24 is bald as a babies behind. I could be riveting for weeks.
@brianwatson1965
@brianwatson1965 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking idea....thankyou!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
@taodej
@taodej 3 жыл бұрын
would "future" work in place of the mousse? .,great idea, great vid.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible. I started out trying to use Tamiya X-22 thinned to different ratios, but drying was a continuing problem, so that's when I tried the liquid hair mousse.
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 жыл бұрын
There are also 3D rivets printed on decal paper, common in model railroad community, by Archer. Micro-Mark makes an inferior version. This microball method adds a really neat process to the modeling tool-box👍👍. Very cool idea.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
HGW also makes wet transfer rivets. but the amount of rivets on one small part, most not being a very long run, would've been probably more challenging with decal rivets than it was with the micro balls.
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Having this technique available has its benefits! I'm going to order up some of the solder balls... actually have an application where the decal type are not going to work easily, and this method will! Thanks again for showing us this great method.
@emilefourielamprecht1460
@emilefourielamprecht1460 3 жыл бұрын
It works really well on some tanks and ships many thanks man.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@fatblokeonamotorbike1600
@fatblokeonamotorbike1600 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I had come across the solder balls and bought a couple of bottles, 0.35 and 0.55, but hadn't yet figured a way of placing them. You make this look easier than it probably is, but at least using the hair mouse if it looks bad the balls can be released with just a cotton bud dipped in some water. I might also experiment with some Terpene adhesive, a very mild solvent used for delicate styrene welding, much less aggressive than the usual liquid solvents but wouldn't have the 'chipping' effect you mention when it comes to painting.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it the experiment with the Terpene goes. The big advantage of the mousse is it gives you basically unlimited working time. If it starts to dry out, you can just re-wet it with more mousse. However, I don't think it's the STRONGEST bond, but it certainly seems to be sufficient so far, especially after a few good coats of Mr. Surfacer. Thanks for watching!
@billforrest4205
@billforrest4205 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm late to this party however I thought I'd offer some advice or suggestions'. The hair mousse for adhering the "rivets" seems to work great, have you tried using a rhinestone picker/wax pen to pick up and place the solder balls? I can see that the method you use would seem faster for placing lots of rivets at a time though. I have used solder balls to place detailed eyes in miniature figures for a while, and a wax pen lets me accurately pop them in place easily 😉
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
I'd think the solder balls are way too small for a rhinestone holder tool. It's really very simple to pick them up with a wet brush, then manuever them into place with the same brush.
@billforrest4205
@billforrest4205 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue It's a pencil with a wax inner. you can sharpen it to a fine point. It will pick up anything from tiny screws, solder balls, etc. google wax picker or wax pencil. The one I have currently happens to be aimed at nail art and has a wax end and a pusher end (shaped like a nail punch) bt standard the are just like pencils 👍
@lpjmodels
@lpjmodels 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a cool tip, thanks mate !
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks so much! I just watched your Eduard Finnish 109 build last night, learned a few things myself!
@MontyTheMaker
@MontyTheMaker 3 жыл бұрын
This is bloody excellent.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin it out!
@nero_palmire
@nero_palmire 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool technique!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@tikihana4254
@tikihana4254 3 жыл бұрын
Highest Props!!! Detail Insane!!!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@lucasner463
@lucasner463 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic idea!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@raymadani270
@raymadani270 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, it's the next level crazy mate. wow I only can dream of doing this much. You are smart brother
@0000syuable
@0000syuable 3 жыл бұрын
素晴らしいリベット! プラモデルのリベット表現にはいろいろな方法があると思いますが、私の知っている中で一番面倒くさい、一番確実な方法ですね!!!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you like it, hope you find it useful!
@0000syuable
@0000syuable 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue , Thank you!
@rebelsatcloudnine
@rebelsatcloudnine 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool idea, and I've got to admit, it looks pretty fun to try :) I'd be worried about my big thumbs knocking off all of those lead solder balls, do you prime it afterwards to sort of sealing them in for handling?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I used Mr Surface 1500 black to prime over afterwards. The mousse doesnt provide a super strong hold, but unless you're trying to scrape them.off, they stay in place. Im going to experiment with some other adhesive methods as well
@johnbeto7936
@johnbeto7936 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Hello Sir. For clarification, you only use the mousse? Also, in lieu of mousse, can you recommend a specific adhesive to use? Thank you.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I have not tried any other adhesive other than the liquid mousse. I'm sure there's other options out there. The important thing is that whatever adhesive you DO use doesn't leave much or any film thickness after it dries, or you'll see the glue after painting.
@TechChucker
@TechChucker 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, tedious but totally worth it for the effect! Great idea and tutorial.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth it, and it really wasnt too bad. I think I did all 4 petals in less than 4 hours
@tobys1943
@tobys1943 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it - gonna watch it again and take notes (happy nerd face) something extra great was a kinda Bob Ross vibe - dig it! Gonna check out your other videos thanks for sharing the knowledge
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Thank you so much, really happy you found the video useful! Thanks for watching....then watching again!😁🙂👍
@HOWARD-kw6jm
@HOWARD-kw6jm 7 ай бұрын
Simply brilliant.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! This is impressively tiny work.
@yrunaked4
@yrunaked4 Жыл бұрын
holy solder balls batman, we are way beyond rivet counting now, arent we 🤣🤣
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great video and technique. I've got a few techniques for adding rivets or bolt heads but yours is new to me and will help with a specific - tedious - project I've been putting off. I'm wondering if Johnson's Klear will affix them?🤔🤔😉
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 2 жыл бұрын
I think I tried it and it didn't have enough hold. I could be remember wrong and it'd certainly be worth experimenting. I had a fellow modeler suggest another product for the glue, I'll have to see if I can find where he told me what it was.
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Hi Thanks, I'll bear that in mind, Klear might be a bit weak, I agree. Your technique is perfect for the job though👍😊
@outofthisworldmodelsandmin898
@outofthisworldmodelsandmin898 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome technique! I can't wait to try this out! I also just subscribed to the channel! Found it just by chance!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@panagiotiselsisi7752
@panagiotiselsisi7752 3 жыл бұрын
I think the music doesn't help much... I liked the video cause it's very informative but I'd suggest avoiding the "music carpet" when you talk.
@drumperson10
@drumperson10 3 жыл бұрын
Recently obliterated some positive rivets on my ki43 with a drop of cement, I assumed all hope was lost gonna try this tho thanks for the idea. Subbed!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's good timing then! Let us know how it works out for ya! Thanks so much for subscribing, super appreciate it!
@CarDreamsinStyrene
@CarDreamsinStyrene 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip..!!!! I do a lot of scratch building might be helpful one day ... thanks..
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Ive really gotten into scratch building, so much fun. This is definitely a great skill to have in the ol Tool box
@ogaugeclockwork4407
@ogaugeclockwork4407 3 жыл бұрын
Man you are so patient!!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Some builds require it 🙂
@timothywood4402
@timothywood4402 3 жыл бұрын
So a better "glue" is maybe pledges revive it a.k.a. clear/future floor wax.tho its not a wax at all.its an acrylic clear gloss.and its super tuff and sticky.but im sure you've heard of it already.lol.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I did not try Future yet. I had tried some Tamiya clear in various thinner ratios, and found it to dry too quickly to work appropriately. The mousse is thick enough to do the job well and still dry flat to the surface so there are no surface irregularities. I plan to experiment with some other glue types for this technique. Thanks for watching!
@michaelhayko2904
@michaelhayko2904 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone comes up with a way of creating raised rivets. The recessed kind just don't look real. But I need some clarification, you only use the mousse as your glue? And this actually holds the solder balls in place? Or you paint over the solder balls and moose and that's the final step? Anyway, thanks for a great technique!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
The mousse is the primary bonding agent. I assume the added primer and paint adds to the bond. I've not yet tested how durable the bond is, but I've yet to have any fall of yet.
@eTraxx
@eTraxx 3 жыл бұрын
This just popped up on the KZbin menu .. I suspect the KZbin bot noticed I was watching Model Railroad techniques for structures and it went .. DUDE .. this might be of interest. It was.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Appreciate you checking it out! This technique certainly has more use than just aircraft rivets!
@gkeaton9755
@gkeaton9755 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip! This has always bugged me, using a riveter tool to make recessed rivets when raised were what was called for. Although, lately, i haven't been doing fine scale modeling, just warhammer 40k stuff.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Replacing panel lines is easy enough with stretched sprue, but the lost rivets was much more challenging until now! Thanks for watching!
@juanluis1969
@juanluis1969 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought right now the same liquid gel and a pack of different sizes, from amazon, starting on 0.3 /0.35/04/0.45/05/0.55/06/0.65/0.76-23,19 euros the whole pack...no 0.2 unfortunately...I will comment about the scales through this month. Thanks man. It was a genius idea.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
@JeiBeeBee
@JeiBeeBee 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I wonder if the hair mousse will be resistant to further painting, i.e. allow the paint to adhere in a way that it resists to further steps like masking and weathering?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I would treat it the same as a hair spray coating, as that's essentially what the mousse is, only slight thicker. The part in the thumbnail was painted with Mr Surfacer and had no issues. Masking? Not sure I'd got that far with it. I have a feeling tape would pull off several "rivets" If I had my choice, I'd prefer the same characteristics of the mousse, but with a stronger bond
@bapussbagpuss1282
@bapussbagpuss1282 3 жыл бұрын
Nice technique. A'lways thought indented rivets look odd.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@맨들기
@맨들기 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's amazing! A lazy modeler like me can never do it.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@planejanemodeling
@planejanemodeling 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll be puttin' paint on these parts here real soon! Just a few years later lol
@Emtbtoday
@Emtbtoday 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@cyberlaurent2101
@cyberlaurent2101 3 жыл бұрын
You're a genious !
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I've been called many things! lol, thanks!
@kougerat5388
@kougerat5388 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are a very clever and patient man, I didn't even know about micro solder balls ! I can feel a Lancaster build coming on :-) I quite like the relaxing background music too but it needs to be be a bit more in the backgound ! just saying. I'd rather hear your narration a little more you have a nice voice, Just my opinion. Thank you for sharing this great idea.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
That would look awesome! This particular build (1/48 Monogram F-105D) has TONS of time put into, so when there's an opportunity to add more detail to it, the extra time is of no consequence.
@robbie.205
@robbie.205 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep making videos🙏🏻
@danielharris3827
@danielharris3827 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Brian! What scale were the plastic parts?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel, I was working with 1/48 in the video
@danielharris3827
@danielharris3827 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue pretty innovative! post amazon link to solder ballz!
@claeswikberg8958
@claeswikberg8958 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought of using solder this way. really smart though, but the hairspray as a glue might be a bit of an issue when it comes to painting and weathering. wonder if a laquer varnish would work...
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Claes! I primed with Mr. Surfacer 1500 black, thinned 1:1 with Mr Leveling Thinner. I think it's a good idea to avoid using a waterbase primer or paint over the mousse, as I suspect it would behave similarly to a hairspray coating (chipping effect) Thanks so much for watching!
@glennnorbergDONOTUSE
@glennnorbergDONOTUSE 2 жыл бұрын
What scale are you working with in this example? I am working 1/48. Would the .2mm be the size?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
These parts are 1/48 exhaust petals from the F-105. The .2 or .25 seemed perfect to me
@davidpark905
@davidpark905 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a rivet tool like yours?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 2 жыл бұрын
This one? amzn.to/3q5rkjd
@maw19_72
@maw19_72 3 жыл бұрын
Großartig 👍
@codycoyote6912
@codycoyote6912 Жыл бұрын
Clever!
@steveday72
@steveday72 3 жыл бұрын
There's also filler material for resins & epoxies that might have suitable spherules. I have glass beads used for media blasting, but they're probably around .5mm (at a guess). As for the mousse ... I wonder if it's a vinyl based spray like the liquid hairsprays? Regular mousse wouldn't have a good hold at all and I'd worry about the paint not having anything to bond with and "floating" on the model over time. In no way is this "easy" though. That looks incredibly tedious - though the result looks amazing.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I presume it would behave the same as a hairspray application would for chipping. Only, you wouldn't necessarily do the chipping. I primed with Mr. Surfacer 1500 and it bonded just fine. The hold on the solder balls isn't incredibly strong, but so far has been enough to keep them in place. Thanks for watchin!
@g43654
@g43654 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea, but there has to be a better way. May be one could dump these balls into a syringe and find a needle with just the right diameter, then tap for each ball to fall into its position? I'm thinking about an applicator pen of sort.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
It really goes pretty fast especially if you're dealing with a model that came with recessed rivets. You can do about 10 or more at a time then. It's just a matter of pushing them around until the drop in the hole. It's kinda like Whack-a-mole 😄
@DarrenMalin
@DarrenMalin 3 жыл бұрын
I respect the work done here. But I could never do it lol :)
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
It's really much easier than it might appear, especially if you are adding them to recessed rivets made at the manuf.
@ridwan3533
@ridwan3533 2 жыл бұрын
for month i search this information, even some modelers just want keep technique to be known for personal without sharing with fellow modelers What tools name like tracing wheel in 2:44 ? It's that pattern tracing for tailoring ?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 2 жыл бұрын
It's called a Mini Rivet-R by RB PRoductions. Unfortunately RB stopped producing them I think. Perhaps you can still find them out there somewhere. Here's a link to the product. I did not buy mine from this site: www.aviationmegastore.com/rivet-r-mini-rivet-tool-rb-productions-rb-t010-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=90405
@ridwan3533
@ridwan3533 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue thank you
@Figulus
@Figulus 3 жыл бұрын
What made you think to use hair mousse? Such a thing would never have crossed my mind.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I had purchased the mousse to mix with a snow product to thicken it up. Seemed like the right thing for what I needed, at least with what I had on hand. I was experimenting with a few different clears before I found that the mousse was working the best overall for what I had on hand
@CCorey-zo6oc
@CCorey-zo6oc 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this technique, and I am soon gonna be doing this. Would primer work well? It sounds like it would since it is liquid but dries leaving no unwanted residue. Maybe it would not hold well until it was painted and clear coated?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does! The "after" part was primed with Mr. Surfacer 1500 black, thinned 1:1 with Mr Leveling Thinner. I think it's a good idea to avoid using a waterbase primer or paint over the mousse, as I suspect it would behave similarly to a hairspray coating (chipping effect) Thanks so much for watching!
@sh60guy25
@sh60guy25 Жыл бұрын
I think you just solved my issue with the Kitty Hawk SH60B model kit! How easy is to sand them down slightly so they are not so proud of the surface?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 10 ай бұрын
You dont. They only look so "proud" because I'm incredibly zoomed in, to the naked eye they look proper imo
@terrymiller111
@terrymiller111 3 жыл бұрын
Took some balls to complete that.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
😁
@sh60guy25
@sh60guy25 Жыл бұрын
Just got the solder balls in today. OMFG the .2 balls look like dust. The .25 you can almost see them and the .35 can be seen ok. I may hae to go larger than .35 for 1/35 scale rivets. VMS aggregate fixer may work well for this.
@kerrywilcoxon436
@kerrywilcoxon436 3 жыл бұрын
What types of beads did you use and where did you get them?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Micro solder balls on ebay
@kerrywilcoxon436
@kerrywilcoxon436 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Thanks.
@violetrock9958
@violetrock9958 3 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the liquid residue?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
You dont
@violetrock9958
@violetrock9958 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue Okaaayyy... How does the primer behave? Will it stay on, when you accidently touch the spot where it is applicated?
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Just to be safe, I chose to use Mr. Surfacer as a primer because its not acrylic. My suspicion is that the hair mousse should behave the same as a hairspray undercoat (used for chipping) in that it would only be affected by a water based topcoat, but I havent experimented with it. I just used what I had on hand that seemed to make the most sense. Im sure theres other options out there for securing the balls to the surfcace, but this liquid mousse has seemed to work really well
@justminibanana9128
@justminibanana9128 3 жыл бұрын
before watching this vid I thought, "oh easy just use a normal map", then I realised its an actual physical model.
@CubicApocalypse128
@CubicApocalypse128 3 жыл бұрын
If 3D printing tech keeps improving, eventually we'll be able to apply displacement maps to physical models.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
3D printer is on the shopping list for the somewhat near future hopefully
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
This technique works best when you seal them under a coat of clear lacquer
@speedskatingpanda
@speedskatingpanda 3 жыл бұрын
Archer decals are far easier to apply. Try! You'll see.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
I had no issues. There's more than one way to do alot of things in our hobby. I may try them on future products though!
@monolight1327
@monolight1327 7 ай бұрын
Archer is out of business, I believe…
@speedskatingpanda
@speedskatingpanda 7 ай бұрын
@@monolight1327 bad news. Didn’t know that.
@elation8101
@elation8101 3 жыл бұрын
But did you count the rivets for accuracy? ;)
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
😁 actually..... 🤣😅😆
@fkwdbynjd815
@fkwdbynjd815 6 ай бұрын
Великолепная идея
@pietervaness3229
@pietervaness3229 3 жыл бұрын
I think this would be perfect for a guy doing life :-\
@Stringbean421
@Stringbean421 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, true. 😂
@AshleyBlackwater
@AshleyBlackwater 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe turn the background music down by half, and maybe talk a little slower. Its somewhat hard to hear you clearly whilst fighting with the music. This is really cool tho :o
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, Im always trying to improve my videos and your input is helpful
@bfdzvalable
@bfdzvalable 3 жыл бұрын
OCD at its highest. lol. Carry on, dude.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Right on target! LOL, thanks Brian!
@lieschenmultikill5038
@lieschenmultikill5038 3 жыл бұрын
The rivets count is infinite. A total crazyness and a great idea anyways.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is! One of those builds! It'll be stunning if I ever get it across the finish line!
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 3 жыл бұрын
'Easy' is clearly a relative term.
@lord_vek
@lord_vek 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the idea, but... isn't this effect a little bit overkill? And requires a lot of patience.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Guess it depends on your tolerance for patience. It was no trouble at all for me. This was done on a model that is in it's 3rd year of construction. It's literally been an exercise in patience. Thanks for watching!
@Cheonging101
@Cheonging101 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going blind just by looking at this video!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
🙈😂
@terryzhao8256
@terryzhao8256 3 жыл бұрын
i like your name
@party4lifedude
@party4lifedude Жыл бұрын
I almost wish I didn't care so much about detail now lmao
@sabrekai8706
@sabrekai8706 3 жыл бұрын
Nice technique, but I can see the men in their white coats coming to take me away after a few sessions> :)
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@quantumplastic
@quantumplastic 3 жыл бұрын
5*****
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
🌟
@DMGaina
@DMGaina 3 жыл бұрын
Please fix the framerate nex time
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with it?
@teamEP789
@teamEP789 3 жыл бұрын
this is what we call in my country, a job for prisoners
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Scale model prison! Where all the panel lines are raised, parts are covered in ejector pin marks and you're only allowed to use old school tube glue! 😈🥴
@daveshaw2765
@daveshaw2765 2 жыл бұрын
Typical. I can't find a source for .2 mm size balls. The link provided is now a dead end. I know, it's not your fault. A great tip though. I will just have continue the search.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
You've probably already found them, but if not, here is a new link: amzn.to/3GMMJGQ Thanks for the heads up on the dead link!
@daveshaw2765
@daveshaw2765 Жыл бұрын
Yes I have gotten some. Worked without a hitch. Instead of hair products I used Future Floor Polish as the adhesive. Worked like a charm.
@danielbritton8588
@danielbritton8588 3 жыл бұрын
Whelp, I will not be doing this.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@SheepWaveMeByeBye
@SheepWaveMeByeBye 3 жыл бұрын
It looks amazing, but it also looks like masochism.
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sometimes that strive for maximum detail requires such tedious tasks. Its not too bad once you get in the zone
@fernandogagliardo6618
@fernandogagliardo6618 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry mate but.......your video is just for native language people! You're speaking so damm fast!
@TheEmptySprue
@TheEmptySprue Жыл бұрын
Thank your for the input, I'll use your comment to improve future videos! You may try to put subtitles on, that may help. Thanks for watching
@fernandogagliardo6618
@fernandogagliardo6618 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEmptySprue It's exactly what I did, but you know, I had to stop and play continuously the video to read the subtitles for the entire review. Quite annoying. Thanks
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