Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning - Ilsa Faust & Gabriel Fight Scene 4K

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shadeofitall

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8 ай бұрын

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@Chubby_Runs
@Chubby_Runs 7 ай бұрын
“I was hoping it’d be you” easily the best line in the movie, it instantly puts you on edge and Morales’s delivery is perfect
@pankajmajithia4429
@pankajmajithia4429 6 ай бұрын
He was perfect bad guy for this movie I loved his work
@SomeRandomGuy789
@SomeRandomGuy789 6 ай бұрын
Not only is it the best line but it's a great sound-piece. Get's the adrenaline going and i listen to it when I run
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
​@@pankajmajithia4429 joking right? Worst villain in the whole franchise by miles, always has the same face, fights like a punk and like a jedi at the same time, actor is bad, guy is stupid and inconsistent
@Perceptive-Abyss
@Perceptive-Abyss 5 ай бұрын
@@marcobeltrami4093I agree, he was terribly miscast as this supposed cold messiah, when the actor has the charisma of a warm dad. Really contradicts itself. I think cutting the character and just having Pom as the main villain was good. She suited the role better anyway.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 5 ай бұрын
@@Perceptive-Abyss yes i think the whole Gabriel idea is just messed up from the beginning, the actor just makes it worse. He is just a bad written and cliché (literally the not intimidating version of Momoa in Fast X) way to give Cruise someone to punch. Leaving the AI alone and focusing on governments chasing the keys would have given much more realism, mistery and ambiguity to the plot and to the villain. This movie is written in a very very lazy and bad way. I didnt like the casting of new characters as a whole: Morales is the worst (unknown, bad actor, not charismatic or intimidating at all, cant fight), but even Atwell (not hot enough for a female lead in a spy movie, acting is average and over done, face too little expressive and dumb looking...but at least it's coherent with her character, who is not supposed to be intelligent, charming or intriguing, while Morales is the opposite of what his character is supposed to be) is far from ok. Whigam and Klementieff were decent choices, but their characters are so flat and irrelevant they really couldnt give anything important to the plot (whigam role especially is even humiliating for a good actor as he is).
@jpcbarron
@jpcbarron 8 ай бұрын
No matter how many times I watch this scene, it's so exciting and really tense. Gets my heart pumping even knowing the outcome
@gasian5347
@gasian5347 7 ай бұрын
I'm ngl, I was really. disappointed with this scene. Ilsa won knife fights before, so lore wise it isn't consistent and she kept closing in on Gabriel despite using a longer blade. The choreography felt lackluster to me.
@SIDHARATHA-dz4us
@SIDHARATHA-dz4us 7 ай бұрын
Yes u r right 👍😊❤
@blaze6477
@blaze6477 6 ай бұрын
​@gasian5347 So Gabriel beating Ilsa in a knive fight was inconsistent because Ilsa has won knives fights before? What the hell are you talking about?
@gasian5347
@gasian5347 6 ай бұрын
@@blaze6477 Well yes, don't. you remember rogue nation? I just find thiiis scene's choreography dumb because Ilsa didn't fight as well as she should have, and less believable of a death
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
One of the worst fights ever seen. Is this the first movie you watch lol?
@dinorex3464
@dinorex3464 7 ай бұрын
Acting and choreography are incredible. The latest Mission Impossible movies have been an experience.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
You kidding right? This is probably one of the worst fights i've ever seen. Everything screams FAKE, characters behave in senseless ways, a moment they act like jedi another like idiots.
@Alberto-vq5mc
@Alberto-vq5mc 6 ай бұрын
Morales just isnt able to act. He belongs to some soap opera.
@jamietheemoviemaker9257
@jamietheemoviemaker9257 3 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kqever heard of opinions?
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 2 ай бұрын
@@jamietheemoviemaker9257 being an opinion doesnt save it from being a bs one
@maxswitala6820
@maxswitala6820 7 ай бұрын
Ilsa never deserved to die in this fight. I actually thought she would take the win.
@siraphobatamakoolsri3596
@siraphobatamakoolsri3596 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s just bs I mean Ethan beat this guy in like 3 minutes wym ilsa can’t take him come on
@TaysanGalovu
@TaysanGalovu 7 ай бұрын
​@@siraphobatamakoolsri3596she struggled against Lane, who is an intellectual villain, not known for his physical capabilities. Of course she would struggle against a trained male fighter. Regardless, this fight was not well choreographed.
@hanslanda6895
@hanslanda6895 6 ай бұрын
Lane was a former MI6 Agent ,of course he's a well trained man , and don't you forget ilsa has defeated Dr bone whom the henchman of the syndicate and sized almost 2x of her
@davidbraithwaite8546
@davidbraithwaite8546 6 ай бұрын
She didn't die, as we will see in the sequel.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
@@TaysanGalovu Lane was an intellectual but a great fighter too, look at how skilled he was. Just because this one is dumb doesnt mean he is strong. Ethan kicks him in two minutes like a punk having a knife against a knife, while ilsa cant having a sword? Seems like they wanted to humiliate the character for some reason lol (maybe some revenge on the actress?): why didnt they give them the same blade type? It would have saved a lot of problems of this fight and it was literally a thing even a five years old would be able to understand.
@kolajoabiola2790
@kolajoabiola2790 8 ай бұрын
The moment he stabbed Ilsa in the leg when she tried her signature leg triangle maneuver was the turning point. After that, all Gabriel had to do was be patient because she just started swinging wildly (probably out of desperation to try to end the fight quickly since she could no longer use her legs effectively), which then made it easier for him to exploit her limited mobility and ultimately overpower her.
@gasian5347
@gasian5347 7 ай бұрын
It really bothered me how she'd do that without disarming or restraining his knife hand first. It also sucks that despite having the longer blade, she was goaded into being aggressive and coming close which puts her at a disadvantage
@kolajoabiola2790
@kolajoabiola2790 7 ай бұрын
@@gasian5347 She could've used the sword to target his knife-holding hand till she disarmed him completely before attempting her leg triangle takedown.
@PrestigeLearning
@PrestigeLearning 5 ай бұрын
@@kolajoabiola2790 In fairness to the film, we can presume Gabriel would know better than to let her disarm him that easily. The Entity probably briefed him on her fighting style and favorite moves beforehand
@g.5152
@g.5152 5 ай бұрын
​@@gasian5347x2 quien en su sano juicio se inclinaría a un combate cercano teniendo un arma de mediana distancia
@newtscamander661
@newtscamander661 5 ай бұрын
Ilsa is the best woman fighter for me. I love her. 😭 Please bring her back to life 😭💔
@greengoblin4life
@greengoblin4life 7 ай бұрын
The score! Lorne Balfe is a genius.
@WC-tv7lk
@WC-tv7lk 7 ай бұрын
Loved the entire Venice chase sequence, Ethan running to try and save both Grace and Ilsa and is repeatedly slowed down by goons and Paris. The music is amazing as well, you feel the desperation in Ethan running to the bridge and stopping Gabriel hurt his friends. RIP Ilsa.
@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast
@Story2ScreenMovieReviewPodcast 2 ай бұрын
I actually give Mcquarrie and Cruise alot of credit for resisting to insert a final moment between Ilsa and Ethan, saying goodbye or I love you type of dialog as she's dying. Nope, instead Ethan finds her lifeless body on the steps. More of a real gut punch
@rashidomer3348
@rashidomer3348 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think she is dead. It’s a plan to trick the AI. Ethan & Ilsa are endgame
@siraphobatamakoolsri3596
@siraphobatamakoolsri3596 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m on copium too
@Colin_
@Colin_ 7 ай бұрын
I hope thats the case as i liked her character.
@benmunn7593
@benmunn7593 6 ай бұрын
That better be the case. Ethan and Ilsa seem so perfect towards each other
@pankajmajithia4429
@pankajmajithia4429 6 ай бұрын
Nice theory
@trooper5744
@trooper5744 6 ай бұрын
@@benmunn7593Tom Cruise was in London filming part two a week or two ago. Rebecca was in London at the same time. Her instagram story was up for a short time showing her shopping in London. Coincidence? I think Ilsa is alive.
@user-rc4jz9dy1i
@user-rc4jz9dy1i 5 ай бұрын
I love that look of compassion at 1:20, like he's aware he's snuffing out the flame of a noble being
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
Or maybe he just isnt able to act. He has this face the whole movie.
@sentience3033
@sentience3033 4 ай бұрын
He enjoys the suffering so
@user-rc4jz9dy1i
@user-rc4jz9dy1i 3 ай бұрын
Another thing, didn't notice at first, but she looks like a Renaissance knight. Got the long overcoat, weaved pony tail, sword. Was certainly meant to conjure the image of a noble swordsman, defending the vulnerable.
@sammiechanning1489
@sammiechanning1489 3 ай бұрын
No blood, didn't check the pulse and no proper confirmation of her death. I'm still hoping she's alive hiding somewhere to trick the entity...
@aslamdawood4535
@aslamdawood4535 7 ай бұрын
His cold, emotionless gaze at 1:21 is scary as hell
@saddany3254
@saddany3254 5 ай бұрын
Bruh ain't no way she's dead. I refuse to believe she is. She died just for Grace to take her spot immediately after? I like Grace, but you can't just blatantly replace a beloved character like that lmao. I'm coping hard right now 😭
@jasonmartinez4708
@jasonmartinez4708 4 ай бұрын
She’s not dead if you remember when ilsa and Ethan were talking about a plan to outsmart the entity. This is the plan make the entity think ilsa is dead make her a ghost something the entity won’t see coming.
@saddany3254
@saddany3254 4 ай бұрын
@@jasonmartinez4708 hmmm... You might be onto something. Since Entity is somewhat omniscient (because it's basically everywhere) that's why Ethan and friends had to act like she's dead. But still skeptical about this.
@aiyacharlene
@aiyacharlene 5 ай бұрын
this is absolutely the worst way to kill off the best female character
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
Just be killed by an idiot like Gabriel is one of the biggest offences in movie history.
@TheLastSamurai813
@TheLastSamurai813 5 ай бұрын
Nah, it was perfect
@sastaassh1112
@sastaassh1112 5 ай бұрын
They wanted to fit Hayley Atwell so they had to kill another female character 😂
@christmaslover01ytp87
@christmaslover01ytp87 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLastSamurai813 agreed I was on the edge of my seat so intense
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
@@sastaassh1112 but why? Is she the producer daughter or what? Her character is probably the worst in the whole franchise, she's average looking, average actress and has done literally nothing in her career except an irrilevant role in some superhero movies, b00bs are the only reason she's famous. Wtf
@patrickspencer6550
@patrickspencer6550 7 ай бұрын
Ethan didn’t even check her pulse, did he? That Paris lady got stabbed by Gabriel, and she was still alive by the end.
@g.5152
@g.5152 5 ай бұрын
Y literal fue apuñalada en él mismo lugar q Ilsa creo
@g.5152
@g.5152 5 ай бұрын
Lo mas probable es q en misión Imposible 8 siga viva
@TheMaulam12345
@TheMaulam12345 4 ай бұрын
yeah it could be egg easter
@ublade82
@ublade82 3 ай бұрын
Not much of an angel of death is he
@nebula669
@nebula669 5 ай бұрын
This movie has flaws. But the undeniable thing is the background score in this scene is great, easily one of favourite. I also liked the character Paris. She was really good with all those reflexes and hitting gas pedal with throttling engine 😂.
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
I dont like Balfe. Music feels disconnected from scenes. It's just pompousity. Joe Kraemer and Michael Gioacchino are the real musical geniuses of this saga.
@jlugalaxy8265
@jlugalaxy8265 5 ай бұрын
Balfe suits the epic, larger scale missions we see in Fallout and DR Pt. 1. Can you imagine Giacchino or even Kraemer’s jazzy, 60’s era throwback scores in this film? No! At least I certainly can’t.
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
@@jlugalaxy8265 that's the reason why they took him obviously. But there are tons of better guys in this style, he's one of the worst among Zimmer followers. He just isnt able to give rythm in a proper way. Gioacchino is jazz, Kraemer is not. His one is much more epic to me than this pompous crap, but also much more elegant, classy and able to give rythm to scenes, not just to overwhelm them in senseless ways. Ps. Fallout was epic, DR1 was more of an unfunny action comedy with a senseless switch to a Shakespeare parody in the middle, as i've read somewhere. Pps. I wouldnt say Fallout and DR1 are larger scale than Ghost Protocol: one nuclear bomb in kashmere against nuclear apocalypse? Only movie with less scale among last ones is Rogue Nation, and that's why it is the only serious movie in the franchise. Ppps. He suites those movies more, but that's part of the problem: with last two movies the saga switched from classy and intelligent spy movies to some kind of Fast and Furious deluxe.
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
@@jlugalaxy8265 i can get that's the reason, but first this style is played by a lot of better composers, second it suiting more is part of the problem: with last two movies the saga shifted from classy and intelligent spy movies to some sort of Fast and Furious deluxe (DR1 especially is so mediocre, inelegant and dumb i found it unbearable). Gioacchino can be said to be jazzy, not Kramer at all: his classic job is much more epic to me than all this useless pompousity, while also being much more rythmed, able to stay fascinating/classy and give to each scene exactly what it needs, instead of just overwhelming it in senseless ways. Ps. I wouldnt say Fallout is larger scale than GP: a single bomb in kashmere against a nuclear apocalypse: Gioacchino did a masterclass in portraying the frenzy of that mission.
@jlugalaxy8265
@jlugalaxy8265 5 ай бұрын
@@ElMatadorDelMar123 To each their own I guess: it's totally subjective as I know you know. I like the grand scale of the last two films. DR is a guilty pleasure for me as there's no politics, it's just a well made film constructed by real creatives. The plot is mediocre for sure, but personally? I watch these films for their visceral nature. The stunts, the running, the stakes, and my oh my the music. 'Fallout', 'Escape Through Paris', 'The Exchange', 'Chasing Grace', 'War is Coming', and many more DR tracks are my go-to music for training (runs and such). They aren't necessarily as intricately crafted as Kraemer or Giacchino's work, that I know. But I think your frustration is with Cruise and McQ at the end of the day. They chose to scrap Kraemer. They chose to hire Balfe. They requested Balfe employ the Top Secret Drum Corps for the DR score. McQ is even listed as a producer on the album. Can't change the direction they're going so I'd sit back, enjoy the quality filmmaking, and try to gleam some enjoyment from the new M:I film/music material we ARE getting. I sympathize with you, I do. Never fun seeing something you love take a detour you really dislike. I guess that goes to show that you shouldn't put too much of your life or energy into entertainment that doesn't care about you but only really wants your money. Went on a little tirade there but you get my drift.
@stephane3644
@stephane3644 2 ай бұрын
The scene, the actors and the music are DAZZLING 🤩🤩🤩
@scottbarkley496
@scottbarkley496 7 ай бұрын
Lorne Balfe cooking
@lucascassol2995
@lucascassol2995 7 ай бұрын
The music is ridiculous, I thought this fight was ten minutes long with how Balfe’s score added to the suspense.
@mikeoporto6365
@mikeoporto6365 7 ай бұрын
Man oh man I was not breathing during this time 😮😮😮
@viktorbanan5949
@viktorbanan5949 3 ай бұрын
Why should Ilsa die why not Grace
@zitchdog4081
@zitchdog4081 2 ай бұрын
They killed of the best character of the entire series ???? Fucking hell…
@joshcoyle3804
@joshcoyle3804 3 ай бұрын
Nooooooo I didn’t want Ilsa to die ethan loved her
@mayankroy5456
@mayankroy5456 7 ай бұрын
I knew somewhere that Ilsa would die in this movie. The best part was when Luther explained the significance of Gabriel killing Ilsa, to force Ethan to make a haste decision, leading to either getting killed or killing Gabriel hence safeguarding its secret and existence.
@FilmnerdTV
@FilmnerdTV 7 ай бұрын
Also she wasn't in any of the train scenes and if she was there we would have seen footage of her in the trailer material.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
Doesnt seem Ilsa needed Gabriel to kill Ethan to try to kill him as he killed off her whole family animal included. Did they forget to warn her they needed Gabriel alive? Lol this movie is so dumb, there is not a single scene making sense.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
Doesnt make sense: if entity didnt want to be found a very simple thing to do was to never tell Gabriel its location...you didnt need to tell him that at all to get him in a mission to take the keys for you and destroy them. That's also pretty stupid actually: what grants you Gabriel will not use the keys to control you once he has them and knows the location? Why do you trust him so much. There are only two possible solutions: 1) Entity wanting Ethan to find it: but in this case you didnt need to kill Ilsa at all, this would just risk to compromise your plan. You didnt need anything at all, just send him an email instead of hacking governments so everyone will try to control you lol. 2) Entity doesnt exists, Gabriel set everything up just to kill all ethan's friends and get a revenge. This is the only realistic way they can handle it, but would be not surprising at all and just cringe probably.
@el50000
@el50000 6 ай бұрын
Stupid fight and death compare to she fought Dr. Bone in the MI5 and kicked 5 asses in the jail cell to save Ethan. No way she could be defeated by Daniel! What a useless death and insulted Rebecca to let her move on by killing her character. Dumb Dumb Dumb!!!👿👿👿👿👿👿👿😖😖😖😖👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿👿
@srikanthsrini6873
@srikanthsrini6873 5 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq dei punda why they hell you are speaking bad about this movie?? nubs
@badgerproductions3786
@badgerproductions3786 7 ай бұрын
Seriously we don’t deserve this movie my god what a sequence
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
If you think this is a decent scene then it's just the awful **** you deserve. Worst fight i've seen in years.
@Juds0n1
@Juds0n1 6 ай бұрын
One of the best scenes in "years". Epic to say the least. Think her character made this movie tick and catapulted it to the end.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
Joking right? Have you ever seen a serious fight scene?
@LukeKetchum7003
@LukeKetchum7003 7 ай бұрын
"Never accept death, when suffering is owned". Mission Impossible and Fast & Furious are two sides of the same coin. But M.I. is the better half.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
That's the problem lol: Gabriel is just a not intimidating at all and schizophrenic version of Momoa in Fast X (dialogues and absurdity level too are F&F level and the whole rome and train sequences feel like some fast and furious stuff too, despite the second being clearly copied straight from uncharted 2). I could never imagine to see Mission Impossible end that low: Fallout was already a very big drop compared to Rogue Nation, but this is a downfall so huge it's even difficult to explain it from one chapter to another.
@greenstar9385
@greenstar9385 6 ай бұрын
I refuse to accept that death until the next movie is out. It this is true though, I'd believe this is a conspiracy because rebecca ferguson was stealing the show too much 😂
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
Honestly my thoughts too. Ilsa was a so much better character than everyone else except Lane (in Rogue Nation only, that Fallout beard and hairstyle is ridicolous) and she was so beautiful and magnetic that Ilsa was really stealing the show from Cruise, so not only he wrote her off, but made it in such a stupid, irrelevant and humiliating way her legacy will be screwed forever (seriously what other reason for the sword vs knife thing?). We all know about his ego, this hypothesis is much more believable than Mc Quarrie writing such a dumb mess by his own volition. But there is another option in covid delays causing unsolvable schedule conflicts and forcing to write her off: still this doesnt explain why they were forced to do it in such a cringe way.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 6 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq I don't see what is really 'humiliating' about it. Her death motivates the third act [as Ethan needs to avoid the urge to avenge her by killing Gabrielle]. It also shows Gabrielle is a significant threat by taking her down [the 'worf effect' as TV Tropes puts it] and changes Grace as a character [as she starts working for Ethan rather than against him]. Rebecca did interviews with Hayley Atwell in a very 'passing the torch' move so it seemed very mutual.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesatkinsonja 1) as you said: she dies only to make Gabriel look intimidating and evil, while for the rest of the movie he doesnt look this way at all: he's kicked by ethan like a punk (literally every bad guy, main or side one, who ever fought against him in the saga gave him much more trouble), he he isnt able to kill Paris despite taking her by surprise, he acts in stupid ways and is always made up easily. But Ilsa is killed by him in a minute and having a sword against a knife? This would be humiliating even for Benji. And if that's not enough their fight is probably the most unrealistic and worst executed in the whole saga: this Morales just isnt able to fight, he looks like a piece of wood, what a downgrade from Cavill and Fallout bathroom guy. They literally never needed the villain to kill a main character just to look intimidating: Gabriel sucks and is the first one to need a cringe plot armour to look dangerous. 2) Even the antagonism between Ethan and Gabriel is so cliché and flat, just looks like the Momoa-Toretto rivalry in Fast X: again, only way they had to make them be perceived as real antagonists was to kill off another character? And if so...why not Luther or Julia? They are basically useless to plot development, both very flat characters but very important to Ethan: creating an artificial rivalry against a flat cliché villain isnt really a thing worth turning the best character of 21st century spy-action by miles into a Vesper Lind who fights like a drunk jedi. 3) That's the funny point: Ilsa doesnt makes Grace better, she makes her worse...for one hour and an half or more Grace is constantly saved by Ethan for no reason while everyone else tries to kill her, but somehow she isnt able to realise Ethan is good and trust-worthy. You have been paid a lot to get a key, that means it's a very precious thing: every serious person would just kill you or at least knock you off immediately, so just not doing that is trust worthy. But ethan saves her multiple times for no reason, she continues to not understand it and betrays him, looking like the most stupid character in the whole franchise and very annoying...in Venice she comes to the point of absurdity, she is literally behaving this way just because the plot says so: you have this South american dandy with terminator glasses threatening to kill you, while the man who already saved your life ten times despite your betrayals is acting as if you are equally or more important to him than a long time friend, but you still run away from the only person trying to protect you, perfectly knowing you cant fight a 5 years old? Not even women in horror movies parodies behave in such a stupid way. The point is: why? They clearly chose to kill Ilsa before choosing to introduce Grace, so they made her up in a way that would lead to it, not caring about how bad this would make look her as a character. Needing someone to get killed for you to understand you can trust her friends is very very very stupid. 4) Even the sacrifice of Ilsa for Grace (a total stranger and not useful at all, more an obstacle with her dumbness) is very bad executed, despite possibly being the only remotly fascinating idea of the whole movie, since it implies such a good heart it's almost moving. But there are two main problems: a) first of all, it doesnt imply any evolution for Ilsa: risking death (more than here: risking Lane to understand your betrayal is much more dangerous than a sword vs knife fight) to save an innocent stranger is literally the first things she does whem she appears in Rogue Nation, when she saves Hunt b) if you want to make a sacrifice you have to make it look like one: here her life doesnt look in big danger (no one with a brain left would loose with a sword against a knife), she doesnt seem scared but cocky, she fights like she doesnt give much about life; the point of sacrifice is going to CERTAIN DEATH, being aware of it and scared, but doing it for the sake of good. Here it looks like the straight opposite. 5) The replacement with Grace is probably the most humiliating thing, for both character and actress. Grace is a very cliché (really nothing more than a damsell in distress Ethan constantly need to look after like a baby, saved cringly by plot armour various times), flat (her only evolution is getting to trust Ethan, but as i said it's made in the most stupid and humiliating way for her), useless (arrested by italian police lol), stupid and annoying character, forced in every scene for no reason at all [We have this AI giving access to unlimited power and everyone knows about it, as the movie itself tells us, but the only people we see running after the keys are Hunt, a middle aged dandy with a few side guys and a useless average thief? The CIA really cant even attempt to get two keys without using the white widow, who doesnt hire a commando (as she did in Fallout for much less) but an average thief found on the internet she doesnt know she cant trust, who cant steal a bike and is even able to get arrested by italian police? This doesnt make a shade of sense]: a plot where Ilsa dies and she stays alive is totally unrealistic and enough of an humiliation for Ilsa, but Grace turns every scene she's in into an unfunny action comedy, and that totally brings away the gravity of Ilsa's death...a plot full of characters who behave in very stupid ways but somehow are always able to stay alive with cringe plot armour, while the most skillful and intelligent dies in a stupid way (with cringe plot armour given to the villain lol) is straight up schizophrenic and just makes clear their first goal was to write off Ilsa, not to make her death meaningfull to her, other characters or the plot. But that's the least: Ilsa dies in a minute in the middle of the movie (usually important characters dies at the end, that's a law of screemwriting and made for a reason), we have a cringe two minutes mourning and then the plot just moves on as nothing happened, with a cringe action comedy tone totally inconsistent with Venice one and which i found disgusting on a human level; only impact on plot is Grace change of heart, so stupid in premises and development it humiliates her much more than Ilsa. Ethan didnt even need that to hate Gabriel since he appears to already hate him: and him too seems to really not give much about Ilsa after a few minutes, Benji and Luther even less. Looks like everyone, Director included, just forgot she ever existed. 6) Another thing humiliating and senseless is Ethan constantly telling Ilsa to go away because of danger, as if she's some kind of Julia who cant look after herself, while she has always been the most skillful and autonomous character in the saga. On the other hand he not only never tells anything similar to Benji and Luther (who are in much bigger danger than her, but somehow Gabriel isnt able to notice), but he insists to carry around Grace for no reason (she doesnt want to go on the train but he basically forces her to): she's literally useless and would die every 5 minutes if not for him saving her constantly, villains behaving in stupid ways and cringe plot armours, but he perceives her to be less in danger than Ilsa. 7) Last but not least that's humiliating for the actress: Hayley Atwell is average and stupid-looking as a woman, pretty bad as an actress; she doesnt belong to a spy movie, more to Marvel movies. She's one of the least charming and charismatic women in the whole saga. Rebecca Ferguson instead was by far the best looking, most magnetic and charming. For her being replaced by Atwell is top tier humiliation...it just seems to say: you aged too fast woman (but even looking older the difference in charm is appalling), go home. She did interviews with her because they forced her too, as always with actresses. But in Rome premiere she went flirting with Cruise in front of her, in a very dramatic way, as if she was trying to state something, clear sign she's embittered despite faking not to be in interviews.
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 4 ай бұрын
​​@@Giovanni-dd6kq i totally agree with every single word you said: crazy how they killed the best character in the saga in the most idiotic way just to introduce a new character (far less interesting on its own, played by a far less fascinating actress) but then totally screwed this new character making her the dumbest and most annoying person ever just because they didnt want to waste their time thinking about an intelligent way to get Ilsa killed. Lazy writing at its peak: destroyed two characters at once. The whole Venice part doesnt make a shade of sense: every single character behaves like an idiot. But the train one is not any better. Even crazier is how people seem to like this movie just because Tom Cruise became Hollywood idol after Top Gun: this is by far the worst Mission Impossible movie...bad actors, annoying stereotyped and uninteresting characters, dumb as hell screenplay, unoriginal Dom Toretto style action (very bad shot for the saga standards, especially in Rome), schizophrenic director, CGI everywhere, reducing Benji and Luther to some useless cameo, getting rid of the best character for no reason and going on as nothing happened, with a comedic tone i found disgusting too. A few years from now everyone will aknowledge this, just let the Cruise mania slip away.
@derthilosoph1076
@derthilosoph1076 4 ай бұрын
It is a shame...killing off the best Character of Mission Impossible for no reason. Ilsa: I honor you!
@jasonmartinez4708
@jasonmartinez4708 4 ай бұрын
Ilsa is not dead it’s all part of the plan for outsmart the entity, why do you think you don’t see Luther at the end because he’s with ilsa probably looking for the entity already.
@bavvaroisjoestar
@bavvaroisjoestar 7 ай бұрын
i’m so devastated bruhhh can’t wait for the part 2..
@eddiejones9991
@eddiejones9991 5 ай бұрын
I love Gabriel. Great, cold blooded villain whose wall only came down when he screamed at the end. I like his backstory with Ethan too. Esai Morales killed it.
@ElMatadorDelMar123
@ElMatadorDelMar123 5 ай бұрын
Bad written. Bad actor. Guess you've never seen a decent villain in your whole life.
@jackjager8790
@jackjager8790 2 ай бұрын
@@ElMatadorDelMar123 Agreed this movie is perfect for the action plebs though. Hollywood is really at its worst, i miss the 70s 80s 90s when it comes to Hollywood.
@adamhunter4120
@adamhunter4120 7 ай бұрын
This was a really good movie I wish more people had gone to see it hopefully more will show up for part 2
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 6 ай бұрын
The whole release strategy was a disaster-only 1 week on IMAX screens before going up against Barbie and Oppenheimer. They do seem to have learnt lessons for the next film as it's out in May 2025 [so less competition] and has 3 weeks on the premium screens
@CashMoolah00
@CashMoolah00 7 ай бұрын
Tom cruise running scene are always amazing
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 Ай бұрын
This one was pretty cringe to me
@brucesnow7125
@brucesnow7125 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, this scene was the worst part of the movie. Ilsa barely had any lines in the movie. Her death was just horribly executed. I felt nothing despite how much i love the character.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
Funny thing is there is much worse. The whole plot doesnt make sense.
@agimos_art
@agimos_art 6 ай бұрын
Großartig 😮
@shravansujith4307
@shravansujith4307 7 ай бұрын
No matter how many times i re-watch this fight, it still doesn't make any sense. Her stupid sword lost to a pen-knife.
@mrs.6523
@mrs.6523 7 ай бұрын
When the writer/director is so eager to send character off (deadly or for a while), he can simply ruin the character in the process. McQ in MI7 is the example.
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 7 ай бұрын
@@mrs.6523it’s so weird because he’s been around for so long. I mean, he literally created Ilsa. I just can’t imagine being ok with this kinda writing for my own characters. Especially since mission’s never really has this problem before from what I remember
@Ali-xs2ij
@Ali-xs2ij 7 ай бұрын
@@WingItMan217 Or you just can't accept that a character "Can" die and that's why you have been crying in every MI7 video in the last 5 months.
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 7 ай бұрын
@@Ali-xs2ij been seeing me around huh? Small world
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 7 ай бұрын
@@Ali-xs2ij Or you can accept that there are A LOT of ways to handle a character's death that are a lot better than the bullshit in this movie. Stop downgrading your own intelligence, dude.
@PrestigeLearning
@PrestigeLearning 5 ай бұрын
Only just noticed, Isla's a leftie (like Ferguson). But she knife-fights right-handed in "Rogue Nation" and fires pistols with both hands at various times.
@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86
@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 7 ай бұрын
What a unnecessary death of great character since alien 3
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 7 ай бұрын
Oh man that’s the vibes this was giving me! I was wondering why this one was giving me super familiar disappointing movie death vibes. Thanks for bringing up the comparison
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
Totally inconsistent. Not even I would loose so easily with a sword against a knife. Felt they wanted to humiliate the character for some reason. Tommy-Rebecca had some fight and Ilsa paid the price?
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
Great fight scene. Gabriel is a perfect addition to the Mission movies.
@Alberto-vq5mc
@Alberto-vq5mc 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@ThePierreChannel
@ThePierreChannel 7 ай бұрын
Obviously Ilsa's death is unnatural. After all, Rebecca wished to leave the MI series, and Tom and Christopher must have somehow used their wits to come up with this scenario for her exit. However, I think they clearly failed in creating a scenario and direction that would make her death seem natural.  Her death is clearly "unnatural."...
@mrs.6523
@mrs.6523 7 ай бұрын
I did not see any interview where Rebecca Ferguson expressed her wish to leave the series or article that somehow reported her intention, even "by rumors". One may assume that McQ/Cruise simply wanted to change "female lead" and did not bother much how to do it in the movie. McQ said in the one of his podcasts that it was nearly the first scene they had shot in Venice.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
​​@@mrs.6523i have a better idea: no way McQ can be that stupid, That's definitely due to covid delays. No way everyone with eyes would switch Rebecca Ferguson with Hayley Atwell (not even talking about characters cause just to set up a comparision would be insulting). Just look at how disconnected with the rest of the movie the Venice part is, both in plot and atmosphere (it has no impact at all on the plot and seriously looks like a shakespeare parody put by chance into a dull, unfunny and annoying action comedy): Ilsa dies for nothing in the middle of the movie, Ethan cries two seconds, we have a cringe two minutes mourning and then we start again with action comedy as nothing happened, Ethan doesnt even seem to remember she even existed. Also Ferguson and Atwell never appear together on screen. Probably they started out with the idea to make Ilsa die at the end of the movie after having a significant role in the plot, but delays caused schedule conflicts that couldnt be solved and they were forced to come up with a last minute solution, which made the movie totally schizophrenic...just look at Grace: the character (cliché, dumb, useless, deep as a puddle, her only role in the movie is to pull out idiotic moves to slow ethan down and give him excuses to do some stunts that look totally unoriginal, otherwise the plot would be over in half an hour), her senseless role in the movie (we have these keys giving access to unlimited power and everyone knows about them, but americans seem the only ones to chase them; more than that: the CIA should send an entire army of spies to get them but they just sit and ask the white widow to take one for them, and even she doesnt hire a commando like in Fallout, but goes on the internet and contacts a dumb useless thief who wouldnt even be able to steal a bike and is even arrested by italian police (WHAAAAT?). How are we supposed to not laugh our asses off when we see a plot like this? ) and the actress (gran finale of the most awaited spy-action saga of the last decade, 300 millions budget and you werent able to find an actress a little more charming and skilled than Hayley Atwell? Her face is so average and dumb looking, her acting belongs to marvel crap...clearly you chose in a hurry and with a lot of better options already not available because of other projects), everything just screams "remedy worse than disease".
@mrs.6523
@mrs.6523 6 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq Look, in the interviews & podcasts, McQ said two things: 1) They decided to kill off Ilsa Faust in the times of TG: Maverick production or even earlier. 2) He was happy to work finally with Atwell as a female lead; they wanted her to be in the MI:RN (but schedules made it impossible) before casting of Rebecca Ferguson. It was said in different interviews (McQ, RF) that the scene of Ilsa-Gabriel fight with Ilsa death was preplanned to be shot as one of the first scenes in Venice location, even before production disruption because of Covid. I mean, there are no solid hints on idea "they started out with the idea to make Ilsa die at the end of the movie after having a significant role in the plot". She had more lines in the first cuts indeed, but they say (somewhere on reddit) that MI:DR editor admitted they cut out fair amount of her lines in the Venice and desert to minimize negative reactions on her death after screens tests. Do not want to comment Hayley Atwell personally. Yours are not fair enough. But, her character so far is much closer to the standard archetype of female co-lead who needs the superhero (even in the mode ‘catch-me-if-you-can). Ilsa, at the end of RN-Fallout duology, was another sort of a character; and that was widely admitted by the fans and critics. Probably, that could be the main reason to kill her off and to put franchise back to center around Tom Cruise heroics only. Man wanted his movie back.
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 6 ай бұрын
@@mrs.6523 well if she really is dead and TC just wants a movie revolving around him then I'm not surprised the movie was a box office flop, with or without Barbenheimer. It's strange that people would rather watch a three-hour biopic than a pure action entertainment blockbuster unless of course, everything in that movie is outdated.
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
​​@@mrs.6523 god schedule conflicts saved cinema for once. I dont really want to think how bad Atwell would have screwed Ilsa Faust if casted. McQ is so stupid. I have my personal idea on this: there was a lot of rumours about Ferguson casting in RN, because casting process was already in advanced phase and there were a lot of decently famous actresses looking for the role: Atwell was probably one of them and maybe she was McQ favourite (and that's why directors should rely on casting experts lol). Then Cruise came up with Ferguson (basically unknown, wasnt even a professional actress anymore before 2013, when she got into a decent TV series) out of the blue, just because he saw her in that TV show and was stunned: a lot of rumours said the only reason he casted her for was he wanted to pull out a "Nicole Kidman move" (casting just to give her a try)...she was single (broke up in 2011) and it has been reported various times he compared her to Kidman (ex wife) and Ingrid Bergman (celeb crush), you can clearly see he had some intentions. Mc Quarrie probably didnt like that (in interviews he never speaks good of Ferguson). So what happens next? Ferguson starts ageing and most of all gets married with another man...next movie she gets kicked out of the franchise in a senseless way. Can you see the pattern? Cruise lost interest in her or maybe was even embittered when things didnt go as he planned, so McQ had green light to write off an actress he never liked and replace her with the one he was forced not to cast because of her. That's pretty clear, and pretty miserable too.
@SIDHARATHA-dz4us
@SIDHARATHA-dz4us 7 ай бұрын
Ossum music. 😊😊❤
@connorjgriffiths
@connorjgriffiths 2 ай бұрын
Some people saying the choreography was good... she's got a rapier and there are multiple occasions she could have stabbed him with the pointy end so to speak. The moves look cool etc., but I imagine the blade she was using would have been more effective to stab rather than slash.
@supernapo15
@supernapo15 3 ай бұрын
She's not dead. It's part of Ethan's plan for the finale.
@bafter2
@bafter2 5 ай бұрын
I see on this occasion when Isla nimbly climbs on to his shoulders she forgets to break his neck and inexplicably releases him from her leg grip. I know he stabs her leg but she can def still kill him in this position but sadly they had to write her out
@ThePierreChannel
@ThePierreChannel 2 ай бұрын
According to Rebecca said on "UnWrapped" podcast, Apparently, there were differences between the production side and Rebecca, which led to her leave. It seemed that the producers and Tom prioritized new characters and underestimated Ilsa. After all, this is a movie of Tom Cruise, by Tom Cruise, and for Tom Cruise, so maybe it was inevitable that the character Ilsa would be treated like that. That's why Paramount should definitely make a series of spy movies with Ilsa as the main character!!
@salmaroni4134
@salmaroni4134 5 ай бұрын
0:17
@TheTombRaider
@TheTombRaider 5 ай бұрын
What about this shot?
@LukeKetchum7003
@LukeKetchum7003 7 ай бұрын
Too bad Solomon Lane wasn't here to see this.
@OrlandoAugustoStock
@OrlandoAugustoStock 6 ай бұрын
He is in a high security prison
@Alberto-vq5mc
@Alberto-vq5mc 5 ай бұрын
He doesnt care about Ilsa dying at all: "Trust me or kill me" "You are alive because i believe in your potential". You clearly didnt understand Rogue Nation (not a surprise lol, movie is definitely too deep and complex for MI fans) He would have killed Gabriel in a minute; and Ilsa too woould have done it...only reason it didnt happen was the script saying otherwise. Most senseless fight i've ever seen.
@catelynstark9883
@catelynstark9883 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Koji Caine fight in John Wick 4 a noble samurai protecting his best friend and a blind retired assassin who chooses family over friends
@mgabor6936
@mgabor6936 7 ай бұрын
Ilsa could handle much better fighters than Gabriel. Hard to believe she was defeated here. The script was really messed up to write her character out of the franchise.. Instead I would have gone for an all-out, bloody chickfight bw. Ilsa and Paris.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 6 ай бұрын
I could understand if they killed her off if Rebecca felt she wanted to move on but I'd rather they had kept her around for to potentially come back. I agree her taking on Paris would have been good.
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
​@@jamesatkinsonja never read anywhere Ferguson wanted to be written off. In last years she has been in Silo and Dune, not such an impossible schedule to handle. Ilsa was the most important role in her whole career, in one of the most anticipated franchises in Hollywood. No way she chose to leave it for Silo lol. Much more realistic to think they decided to write her off (probably because of some problem between Cruise and her, they were very close and he wrote her off in such a careless way, as he was trying to prove she's nothing) and she had to find something else to do: this movie was probably written before she was cast in those projects.
@user-bf5um5ym3z
@user-bf5um5ym3z 7 ай бұрын
Ah nemmmmmmm... adoro a Ilsa, what fuck, man
@lunacyseven8863
@lunacyseven8863 6 ай бұрын
All this time ethan had ptsd on woman suffering and dying.Claire phelps from m.i 1,lindsay farris(protege)from m.i 3,Julia near death on julia m.i 3.Nyah nordoff virus m.i 2,Now ilsa faust and marie from mission impossible 7 dead reckoning
@larrydelacruz6959
@larrydelacruz6959 7 ай бұрын
The saddest part
@aliceadragna6674
@aliceadragna6674 7 ай бұрын
With Ilsa gone now, bring back Ethan's life of his life Julia who he's still in love with somehow in a MI sequel. Please they need to be w each other since they saw each other eye to eye in Fallout. They couldn't stop looking at each other. Bring Julia back. Please Tom. Love ya 😊❤
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
Please no. Julia is probably the only one who can beat Grace on a cringe level. Seeing the two of them together would make the movie more unbearable than this one, which is a very hard thing to do.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 6 ай бұрын
Jules arc finished with Fallout as she had a new husband and gave Ethan the closure he needed to move on.
@happynell9550
@happynell9550 6 ай бұрын
Thats heart breaking 😢😢😢😢
@sastaassh1112
@sastaassh1112 5 ай бұрын
Poor Rebecca😢 got so little screentime even after being a part of the franchise since 2015 and Hayley Atwell got more screentime and now became the main female member😂
@maxswitala6820
@maxswitala6820 7 ай бұрын
I could see this being Sara challenging Dante from ARROW to a combat.
@601marcusable
@601marcusable 4 ай бұрын
Well she fought deathstroke! That’s that
@gasian5347
@gasian5347 7 ай бұрын
There's so many problems I have with this movie, but this scene in particular felt the most off. Firstly, Ilsa knows how to fight CQC, we saw how effective she was against a bigger opponent in rogue nation. It didn't make sense to me that she'd lose this fight. Secondly, she has the larger blade: bladefight 101 dictates that the a weapon with bigger range should optimize off of it, meaning a safe distance from your opponent puts you at an advantage. Yet she keeps closing in on her opponent and keeps spinning? Probably to keep her eyes on him but she needs to be putting distance to do that effectively. I think the choreography and the writing just didn't match here. TLDR this fight felt forced and an unearned death on Ilsa's part
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 7 ай бұрын
It’s possible it could all be a fake out. I’ve heard a few theories since this one dropped that honestly make the whole movie make more sense. Either way, I feel like the foundation is there to turn around… whatever this is supposed to be. I think you hit the nail on the head as to why everything involving Ilsa in this movie sucks
@bizztopper
@bizztopper 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. Why the hell are you fighting close with a longer blade? Take advantage and keep your distance. The guy had a knife for god sakes. At least give him a sword as well.
@gasian5347
@gasian5347 7 ай бұрын
I personally hope that doesn't happen, it feels too bs to let that play out even when this death felt hollow... I don't want Fast and Furious levels of resurrection lol@@WingItMan217
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 7 ай бұрын
The first MI movie literally starts with a fake death (Jim and Claire) LOL People often forget that this is not only a movie full of action but also tricks and deception. If Ilsa's death wasn't faked then this series ends in Fallout for a lot of people (myself included).@@gasian5347
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 7 ай бұрын
@@gasian5347i would much prefer it be a fakeout over whatever nonsense this is supposed to be. It legitimately would make the movie make more sense and make everyone look less dumb
@ThePierreChannel
@ThePierreChannel 4 ай бұрын
Rebecca Ferguson recently mentioned Ilsa in an interview. After hearing what she said, I don't think she'll ever come back... It was very disappointed. It's as shocking as Tony Stark's death. I think I'll be depressed for a while. (∩´﹏`∩)
@supafrancis
@supafrancis 4 ай бұрын
This fight drives me crazy! If you have a knife and your enemy has a sword, you have 2 options. You run.. or you die.. Period! He literally brings a knife to a sword fight!..... All she had to do was go for the arm holding knife and he was toast. For as skilled a fighter as she was, I refuse to think that in real life that she wouldn't take that route....
@SweeneyTodd9637
@SweeneyTodd9637 4 ай бұрын
Gabriel dumbness is crazy man...he predicted the fight, so why the hell he didnt bring a gun? Plot armour aside this is like signing your own death warrant...even worse, if she keeps you in the fight for two minutes Ethan comes, they take you and force you to tell them where the entity is. So the entity is even dumber than Gabriel. Pretty strange for a God-like AI. Wtf.
@kmtonato
@kmtonato 6 ай бұрын
i don’t believe her dead😢i can’t believe
@maxswitala6820
@maxswitala6820 7 ай бұрын
I could see Illsa giving China White from ARROW a similar fight even though Ilsa would take the win. If Ilsa fought Katana, Nyssa, Sara, or Antiope, she'd have a chance of losing. Battling Sara would be the best one for her to fight and China White from be the second.
@iain.4627
@iain.4627 4 ай бұрын
says on imdb she's in the 8th installment
@tyleranyways
@tyleranyways 6 ай бұрын
Rebecca is such a good actress! I want that cane sword!
@taoybtm
@taoybtm 7 ай бұрын
Rebecca Ferguson Vs Esai Morales
@joekauffman9690
@joekauffman9690 6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this movie, this scene really hit me
@yashupalmer4699
@yashupalmer4699 5 ай бұрын
Damn almost made it
@pankajmajithia4429
@pankajmajithia4429 6 ай бұрын
They should not hv killed the character of Iisa foust
@bilaltahiri2770
@bilaltahiri2770 2 ай бұрын
Gabriel vs Solomon Lane (from Rogue Nation and Fallout) who wins?
@christaggart5687
@christaggart5687 5 ай бұрын
If she’s really dead then this movie sucks
@Alberto-vq5mc
@Alberto-vq5mc 5 ай бұрын
Even if she's alive i'm afraid. Worst movie in the saga hands down, regardless what happens to Ilsa. Nothing makes even a shade of sense. And I would be happy about that, but her being alive after that scene would be a very cringe thing (this movie is full of cringe so i wouldnt be surprised) and would make Gabriel look like a parody of his already ridicolous self.
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 5 ай бұрын
@@Alberto-vq5mc Bro, Gabriel is already a clown, even if Ilsa actually died, it wouldn't make him any scarier. If she's still alive, at least this movie can salvage a bit of plausibility in the plot and characters, which is better than nothing LOL
@Alberto-vq5mc
@Alberto-vq5mc 5 ай бұрын
@@chaunguyen4498 yes Gabriel is a clown and this movie makes no sense, i struggle thinking about a way to make it worse
@BabaYaga19802
@BabaYaga19802 Ай бұрын
Killing Ilsa to keep Grace around. The screenwriter must be gay.
@Constellation0683
@Constellation0683 7 күн бұрын
If she was more présent inwiuld have been more sad but i was angry ... They tried to sell us the new one the entire time and they didn't make her justice. If you want to get rid of her. Give her screen time!!!
@woohooboy
@woohooboy 7 ай бұрын
It stands to reason that Ilsa (as good as she is) was eventually going to find herself up against someone who would get the better of her in a fight. Gabriel proved that point. He is a machine. He defeated three people in this movie and showed he was Ethan's equal in combat. He is a formidable adversary.
@taklampan650
@taklampan650 7 ай бұрын
Ethan kicked his ass with ease, Gabriel blows. Terrible writing in this movie
@woohooboy
@woohooboy 7 ай бұрын
@@taklampan650 - So, not a fan. OK to each their own
@Villenueve1101
@Villenueve1101 6 ай бұрын
@@taklampan650 Ilsa also almost lost to Lane and would have died again if it weren't for Benji. Ilsa has never been MI's best fighter but she was the only woman who can keep up with Ethan's life.
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@Villenueve1101ahahahaha Ethan risked dying with everyone he ever fought against man, much more than Ilsa did against Bone Doctor and Lane: japanese guy in Fallout (and he even had walker on his side lol), ex mossad guy in Rogue Nation, P. S. Hoffman in MI3, MI2 villain, Jim...each one of them almost killed him and he was always saved by luck (MI2, MI1, ex mossad), villain behaving in stupid ways (Jim and Hoffman), other people (japanese guy)...but he can beat Gabriel as if he's not even trying; no way Ilsa can die against such a punk, having a sword against a knife. This is just the worst written death in the whole franchise man: no surprise, DR1 is by far the worst written movie, even if we forget Ilsa's death
@Villenueve1101
@Villenueve1101 6 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq First of, Ethan instantly beat the Bone Doctor using one simple Drop Kick in Rogue Nation. Meanwhile Ilsa struggled to the Bone Doctor and barely won. The Decoy Lark beating Ethan and Walker at the same time is a testament to his skill and capabilities as a fighter rather than both Ethan and Walker being weak at all. Not only that, if we use the commentary of MI Fallout, Decoy Lark had prior knowledge of Ethan's fighting style and Ethan himself wasn't expecting a vastly powerful opponent whereas Walker himself was simply making himself weaker so Decoy Lark can kill Ethan. There ya go. It's interesting how you brought up Owen Davian from MI 3 when he literally used a device to weaken an already injured Ethan Hunt and at the end of the day, Ethan simply nope to the pain and just focused on killing Davian. Then let's talk about Kagan who's former Mossad and currently a Syndicate Agent which Ethan killed in the end. Yes, Ethan struggled but he wasn't even trying to kill Kagan until the end. In the script of Rogue Nation, he was trying to knock him out so he can tune in Kagan for interrogation. Ethan also beat Sean Ambrose because he was always better than Sean but that doesn't mean Sean is no pushover because he's literally meant to be Ethan's equal and shadow as stated by Swanbeck in MI 2. The reason why Jim Phelps managed to beat Ethan instantly was because Jim is simply a more experienced IMF Agent and literally Ethan's mentor. No wonder Ethan got clapped however if we use current Ethan now, Jim will get clapped. Ethan beating Gabriel is a testament to Ethan's capabilities if he was bloodlusted which you always ignored in your argument. The way I see it, your argument lacks research and simply building false narrative by using certain scenes without context. It's pathetic and sad how wrong you are. What next? You gonna blame others instead of your own failures? I've debated with guys like you and you always lose.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 6 ай бұрын
I'd rather they had kept Ilsa around for a potential return, but if she had to die, it's best she went down fighting
@sosakrish49
@sosakrish49 2 ай бұрын
That's how you kill the movie
@beanwithbaconmegarocket
@beanwithbaconmegarocket 5 ай бұрын
This scene was so fucking stupid. Choreography was terrible (an expert swordsman would never let an opponent with a knife get close enough to disarm her--he would get run through) and the lead up was moronic. Ilsa's character deserved better
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
Cry more. Ilsa is boring.
@beanwithbaconmegarocket
@beanwithbaconmegarocket 5 ай бұрын
@@tl8101 youre boring. id never watch a movie with you in it
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 5 ай бұрын
@@tl8101 well Ilsa and all the characters in this movie were built in a boring way that's why this movie failed in the first place, lol cry more
@abeguy7981
@abeguy7981 7 ай бұрын
Why Gabriel was feeling sad after stabbing rebecca ?? Look on hus face was of pain and guilt , as if OMG WHAT IVE DONE 😢
@user-nf9gi7lp7i
@user-nf9gi7lp7i 17 күн бұрын
왜.. 죽였나요... 매력 있는 일사ㅜㅜ
@MrAvengers3232
@MrAvengers3232 3 ай бұрын
I liked her character an assassin with a heart, highly skilled, live by the sword, die by the sword, unfortunately.
@ehsankhan1238
@ehsankhan1238 4 ай бұрын
Ilsa was winning 99.9% against Gabriel. Even afterwards when he had the 🗡 she dodged it. It was only when she had the 🗡 then Gabriel stabbed her. Very Unlucky 0.01%.
@oswaldoarleyrodriguezgalle3537
@oswaldoarleyrodriguezgalle3537 7 ай бұрын
Pa el otro año es M I 8 segunda parté
@dragspread
@dragspread 4 ай бұрын
She’s not dead … after credits scene
@AbduHarakat
@AbduHarakat 7 ай бұрын
This is sort of movie i don't know what is but not mission impossible
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
The fight choreography is so bad, it just screams fake at every move. And choreography aside norhing makes sense. If Gabriel just shot her it would have been much better for him (an intelligent move for once, and would have helped audiencies perceive him like an actual bad guy) and much less humiliating for Ilsa. And given he doesnt, Ilsa must not kill him (cause he knows where the entity is), knows Ethan is coming and can keep him distant easily since she has a sword against a knife...why is she jumping on him three times instead of fighting in a cautious way to gain time? This would have been a perfect occasion to capture Gabriel, but she fights as if she doesnt give a damn about her own life and not even the mission. I guess she just had to die because the script said so. Such a bad way to go for the best female character in spy-action history: and the replacement didnt certainly make things more pleasant, one of the worst written characters in the whole franchise, played by an average and not really intelligent looking actress.
@AbduHarakat
@AbduHarakat 6 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq mission impossible went worse and worse after the third
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
@@AbduHarakat no man that's bullshit. First three are some of the dumbest written stuff ever. Not like this one, but not good either. GP and Fallout were good. Rogue Nation is probably the best spy action ever.
@AbduHarakat
@AbduHarakat 6 ай бұрын
@@Giovanni-dd6kq 2 is the best and my favourite. 3 is amazing. I like also 4 and 5. The action in 5 was so dumb and funny 😄
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
@@AbduHarakat i wouldnt call it dumb expcept for the plane scene and car flipping moment; movie was by far the most serious of the franchise if you exclude that moments (dont know why they put them in, were pretty unnecessary, just to keep some impossible stuff for spectacular purposes)
@Maybrick1980
@Maybrick1980 6 ай бұрын
This was so hard to wach.....replacing Ilsa for Grace.
@TheTombRaider
@TheTombRaider 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I hated that! Ilsa Faust is my favorite character! I like Grace, but I never wanted her to replace her!
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
​​@@TheTombRaiderhow can you like Grace lol she's the most average looking, flat, stupid, annoying, useless character in the whole franchise. I didnt even knew who Ilsa was when i watched the movie but i immediately started to love her by contrast, even if she barely speaks a word and dies like only an idiot would: i mean just look at the actresses, what an apocalyctic downgrade.
@TheTombRaider
@TheTombRaider 5 ай бұрын
​@@marcobeltrami4093How come I didn't get notified about this reply? Anyways I like Grace as a character with potential I enjoyed the way they handled her mysterious aspect and the way they built her throughout the movie shes just the silly girl who has no idea what shes doing or how dangerous it is... I've seen this movie 8 times, and she's starting to grow on me a little. I just absolutely hate what she does throughout the movie and that she's the reason Ilsa died!
@TheTombRaider
@TheTombRaider 5 ай бұрын
I'm also just a huge fan of Rebecca Ferguson I liked her *A LOT* in Doctor Sleep! Rose The Hat is iconic!
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 5 ай бұрын
@@TheTombRaider i think she's way too silly for my standards, i mean horror movie dumb girls level silly, a thing i really cant stand in a spy movie. With a little of coherence a person like that would die every five minutes in Mission Impossible world, not a coincidence she's constantly saved by pretty annoying plot armour (but obviously Ilsa dies in a minute, with a sword against a knife, against a guy who's beaten easily by Ethan later in the movie, what a joke). I didnt like how they made her a comic relief too, i found it annoying and probably made her look even more stupid: they basically replaced Ilsa and Benji, the two best characters of the saga, with a flat and cliché damsell in distress who has basically no role except doing stupid moves just to give Ethan something to do running after her like a nanny (i'm not a feminist but that's kinda sexist to me: not to mention the woman-cant-drive cliché). Overall i think her character as a whole is totally out of place in a MI movie (keys give world dominance and the CIA should send an army to get them, but they dont even try, they sit back, relax and ask the white widow, who doesnt send a commando, as she did in Fallout for much less, but an average thief found on the internet she doesnt know she can trust, who doesnt seem able to steal a bike and is even arrested by italian police. This doesnt make a shade of sense) and I didnt find her misteryous at all: it's pretty clear from the beginning she's too unexperienced and stupid to be dangerous. And her constantly betraying the only man trying to protect her for no reason made her look bad as a person, stupidity aside. Another thing i didnt like is her entering the IMF: Ethan has known her for two days literally, how can they let people into an elite spy organization so easily? Counter espionage would be a joke this way. And if it's so simple, why Ilsa wasnt let into IMF too? After Fallout she was no more rogue, entering the IMF and the team was the most natural thing to do, but instead we find her alone in the desert, clearly only a bad written excuse to send her away and allow Grace to come up to replace her. Last thing, Atwell is not hot enough for a female lead in a spy movie: most of all she has an average and dumb face i can barely stand. She's okay for Marvel movies, not for spy movies. Movie has a lot of problems, Grace is one of the main ones: other ones are Gabriel (flattest, most stupid and inconsistent villain in the saga: actor is unknown, unexpressive, not charismatic at all, cant even fight decently, big downgrade from Cavill), the entity (too overpowered and sci-fi, acts in senseless ways), Ilsa (she doesnt even seem to be the same character of past movies, they clearly just wanted to write her off for some reason), Benji being criminally under-used, the whole plot making no sense and a lot of situations going on in very very very stupid ways. To me this is clearly the worst movie in the saga.
@isaiahbrooks7271
@isaiahbrooks7271 3 ай бұрын
Tom try get him badass chase he couldn't make it
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
Why is this fight so bad? It's ridicolous, you can clearly see it's fake. She even fought it with a short blade and CGI made it longer, you can clearly see that too by the way she uses it. Why couldnt they give her too a knife? It would have made the fight much more realistic. And why does she get so close, you can definitely hit him without that when you have a sword.. A lot of things are totally impossible: how he can just throw her away like she's made of thin air, how he can deviate that hit at 0:28 (come on lol), how she lost the sword, how she was able to get his knife while left without a blade but then wasnt able to kill him in the opposite situation...they both fight as some jedi who dont give nothing about life (Ilsa even knew Ethan was coming, she just needed to fight in a cautious way and keep distance for a few minutes, she could have easily done it with a sword against a knife...but instead she just jumps on him three times trying to kill him like she's bare handed, makes no sense: and am i right remembering they told before not to kill Gabriel because he knew where the entity was? Why is she trying so bad to cut him in pieces? I guess she just had to die because the script said so lol), except they are just schizophrenic: one moment he is able to keep her away with a pocket knife against a sword, but then he isnt able to kill her when she has not a blade, last she gets his knife like a grand master just to be killed dumbly two seconds later. Gabriel is this way the whole movie: he seems like a mix between a jedi and Nostradamus in some moments, but acts like an idiot in others, kills Ilsa like a grandmaster but gets kicked by Ethan like a punk and cant kill a mosquito by accident for the rest of the movie. Flattest, most stupid and inconsistent villain of the whole saga by miles. Dying against him is so humiliating to Ilsa they should have just let her be killed in the first scene if they needed so bad to write Ferguson off. Probably the worst fight in the whole franchise.
@rebecaleite2474
@rebecaleite2474 4 ай бұрын
I hate this scene ' cause she dies 😢
@SHINKU93
@SHINKU93 4 ай бұрын
This villain sucked ass and why did he kill Ethans love interest + one of the most interesting female characters? He has no chemistry with the new chick. Like they made her some quirky comic relief character.
@SweeneyTodd9637
@SweeneyTodd9637 4 ай бұрын
Replaced Benji and Ilsa at the same time with a useless character who is not skilled, not mysterious, not attractive, not funny. Dumbest move ever.
@videos21214
@videos21214 5 ай бұрын
No way Gabriel could have killed her so easily,.they write her out..on the train sequence you can tell gabriel is not match for Ethan..although in previous movies Ilsa fouugh Ethan and they were pretty much even on fighting skills..the writers kill her not Gabriel plain and simple..
@SCharlesDennicon
@SCharlesDennicon 7 ай бұрын
The scene that nearly killed the movie.
@kiyowokiyowo8862
@kiyowokiyowo8862 7 ай бұрын
Why can't they hire better choreographer for this fight. Or at least making this not that clearly they want ilsa dies
@julioaugusto1529
@julioaugusto1529 7 ай бұрын
I was so pissed when she died but at least it was an effective death for the plot
@Giovanni-dd6kq
@Giovanni-dd6kq 6 ай бұрын
What? She just disappears, nothing changes (Grace would have lost the keys anyway) and three minutes later no one seems to remember she even existed. Now i want to know what a useless death is to you lol.
@el50000
@el50000 6 ай бұрын
stupid ending for Ilsa's lfie. I don't mind she died to save Ethan's instead of F**ck stranger theft's life. No more MI for me. What a selfish ending!
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
Just another proof Tom Cruise's ego is too big. He doesnt care at all about other characters and actors, and that ultimately goes against the quality of his movies, despite the incredible effort he puts into his stunts. Everytime an actor or character is or gets too big he just writes it off to always be the centre of everything: you could see that with Renner and Baldwin in Fallout, Ferguson in DR1 is just the most disgusting and careless version of his general attitude towards secondary characters.
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
@@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx Oh shut up.
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
@@tl8101 Tommy fan? Go cry somewhere else
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@Onlygodforgives-sp1gxdon’t really like Tom Cruise as a person, but that’s BS. Renner wasn’t in fallout due to scheduling conflicts with the MCU movies and Baldwin’s character was no more important than Kittridge in MI1 or Lawrence Fishbourne’s character in MI3, yet they were also “replaced”. Also Ving Rhames has been in every movie since the first one and Simon Pegg has been there since MI3
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx
@Onlygodforgives-sp1gx 5 ай бұрын
@@ErikCB912 pegg and rhames are comic reliefs, they dont cause any problem to Cruise protagonism and they arent that important as actors. And pegg is a proof too: in Rogue Nation he became an important character, here he's back to be an irrelevant comic relief we see on screen for 10 minutes at best, who really doesnt bring anything to the story and is even annoying at some points. Renner is said to be out for schedule conflicts, no proof of it: and even if that's the case, that's a thing every saga needs to deal with, MI is the only saga which writes off characters so stupidly. And the reason is clearly Tom Cruise lack of care: a very unacceptable thing for a serious franchise. Hunley was a far better and more relevant character than Kittridge and Lawrence to anyone who understands a bit of cinema: and by the way first two MI movies were episodic, it wasnt a proper saga, so Kittridge disappearing was much more acceptable. But even that can be seen as a lack of respect.
@jala4792
@jala4792 4 ай бұрын
Was mistake te isla died
@georgetsioup2884
@georgetsioup2884 7 ай бұрын
Boring villian!! August walker and solomon lane was the best!!
@alexisschmitt-vn5kc
@alexisschmitt-vn5kc 7 ай бұрын
Owen Davian too in mission impossible 3 😉
@TaysanGalovu
@TaysanGalovu 7 ай бұрын
Who, Gabriel? He wasn't the real villain.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
@@TaysanGalovu enrity is dumb
@NickBorodai
@NickBorodai 7 ай бұрын
Script about AI and this scene where her killed spoil this movie and at times this film boring and stupid
@RaymondStarkes
@RaymondStarkes 7 ай бұрын
No offense to Ilsa and I know agents cant have a love life. But I've always kept hopeful that Julia would be brought in at the end and Ethan Hunt gets a happy sendoff at the end of this saga. So Illsa had to die🤷🏽‍♂️
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 7 ай бұрын
Could happen in part 2
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 6 ай бұрын
If Julia comes back i'm gonna throw into the movie and torture her to death. Most unbearable character of the saga after Grace (DR1 baffled me, never thought someone could beat Julia)
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
Never liked Rebecca.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 5 ай бұрын
@@tl8101 switch to the other side, women are not for you
@RaymondStarkes
@RaymondStarkes 5 ай бұрын
@@marcobeltrami4093 billions of women in the world, but humans have to share your same preferences in women?
@chucklefuck
@chucklefuck 7 ай бұрын
Gabriel was boring and uninteresting
@mgabor6936
@mgabor6936 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. One of the weakest villains in the entire franchise.
@Gavin48
@Gavin48 7 ай бұрын
He is more of a sidekick to the real villain
@TaysanGalovu
@TaysanGalovu 7 ай бұрын
​@@Gavin48this. And the real villain was awesome imo. Maybe because I love stories about AI going rogue.
@OrlandoAugustoStock
@OrlandoAugustoStock 6 ай бұрын
@@mgabor6936 Jim Phelps, Sean Ambrose, Davian, Kurt Hendricks and Walker are all dead while Gabriel is still alive and will be in the next film of the franchise.
@jalalbugti6533
@jalalbugti6533 6 ай бұрын
Gabriel is the one who brought ethan to the imf and made him who he is today, he killed the director of intelligence and not to forget killed ilsa too i would say thats what makes him a good villan
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
Ilsa's fans whining over her death are childish.
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 5 ай бұрын
Man you are just cringe. This movie flopped hard for a reason: it sucks. Nice reminder Tommy isnt the centre of the universe.
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
To the user below: Why don't you shut up?
@marcobeltrami4093
@marcobeltrami4093 5 ай бұрын
​@@tl8101 cause you are cringe...why do you feel in need to write dumb statements when you clearly have nothing to say? Dont have a better way to spend your time?
@tl8101
@tl8101 5 ай бұрын
Go cry in your corner lol.
@chaunguyen4498
@chaunguyen4498 5 ай бұрын
@@tl8101 Are you a fan of Tommy, don't worry this isn't his first flop movie lol
@MickyLion5527
@MickyLion5527 Ай бұрын
waiting to see how tom will avenge his friends killing
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