Missionary didn't let him be educated on I & Father are one! Yusuf & Abdullah | Stratford Dawah

Denying Education: A Missionary's Opposition to 'I and Father Are One' Understanding
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[@mariokart6118]

I really like the discussions that take place between these two brothers at the end Jazak Allahu khairan

[@fedesetrtatio1]

You like it because you think Yusuf is winning. He is not winning he is lying. And you ignorance of Christian doctrine feeds into this hallucination of wisdom and winning.

[@rashidaquil5284]

So 12 disciples are gods too ...fifteenity now 😅

[@HamZaHamZa-fj3js]

😂😅😅

[@Dahir121]

I believe this (MathewNigerian guy )is one of those who wrote the bible Coz he is also walking contradiction According to him Jesus is the father Means father dies on the cross Great work brother Yusuf Alhamdulillahi blessings of Islam

[@Thomas20249]

The poor guy is in deep trouble hhhh

[@TNo200]

What the scripture said and what he beliefs is absolutely do not match each other ... however, he still certain that he follow the scripture - Alhamdulillah for ISLAM - CLEAR - what the book said is the same with what we believe in.

[@allanwilliams2079]

@Dawah2Soul @Yusuf @Abdullah Here is a simple parsing of the sentence verse, John 10:30, where the subject, the verb, and the complement is identified: then shown why the sentence can only say what it says and nothing else. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. I and my Father - the subject in the sentence. Are - the verb in the sentence. One - the complement in the sentence. [There is no modifier after the word "one".] I and my Father are one. - [The complete sentence.] "I".... "my Father" being joined by the conjunction "and" makes the phrase "I and my Father" a plural subject/the subject of the sentence. [The Subject in a sentence can be singular and plural.] [The linking verb "are" speaks of the state of existence.] ["One" (the complement of the subject, in the sentence), is a numeral/an Adjective which describes the subject's state of existence.] One: meaning • (existing, acting, or considered as a single unit, entity, or individual.) ● This is the question which was asked, of Jesus, by the Jews, as they sought clarification, from him, about who he is. John 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. ● This, his answer, to them, it was clear then; and it is still clear now. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. ● That the Jews understand what he says is evident by their response. John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. ● Jesus, shows that their judgment is unrighteous: because they were not making their judgment based on what is written in their law. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? ● Jesus shows why his declared statement is true. John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? ● A search of the five verses reveals, as a constant theme, "existence": either with a desire to know about it, or, it being declared, with knowledge. In John 10:24, the linking verb "be" is found in a question. (If thou be the Christ,) In John 10:30, the linking verb "are" is found in the declaration. (Are one.) In John 10:33, the present participle "being" is found in the presumption. (Thou being a man, ) In John 10:34, the linking verb are is found in a statement. (Ye are gods.) In John 10:36, the linking verb am is found in the statement. (I am the Son of God.) ● Jesus is asked, by the Jews, who he is: he states that he and the Father are one. The Jews, in their presumption that Jesus is a man, state that he makes himself God. Jesus points out that their law(which they received) declared them to be gods; as such, they should not think him, to be less than themselves, when he is sanctified of God, and sent into the world. ●● The question asked of Jesus, to which he responded, is who are you? The Jews did not ask him why did you come?? "Who are you" ask of his existence. "Why did you come"(which they never asked, since they did not accept him) would have asked for his purpose. ●● You can only have a purpose when you have an identity. [The rulers of the Jews did not accept the identity of Jesus.] The word, "one", gives details, about, "the subject of the sentence"; this is (the plural subject) "I and my Father". Therefore, since one is recognized as being the number which comes before two, there is no mistaking that the verse John 10:30 is saying, "One are I and my Father". This state of being is not a union. This state of being did not happen. This state of being does not depend on any interaction which God has had with his creation. This state of being is the existence which is God. ● the disciples may be/become one: this speak to a charge of the state of being. John 17:21-22 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. [22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: The state of Jesus and the Father cannot change. Therefore, the "one" that the disciples may be is not the same "one" that Jesus and his Father are. Hence the stated desire, "that they may be one, as we are". That they may be...speaks of a becoming, a changing from one state to another we are... speaks of an existing state which never changes. These can never mean the same thing. Jesus is God because He and his Father are one; and his Father is God. God can take the form of a man because he is spirit: he cannot be a man because he is God. Muslims strive to represent God, as a man, by using the limited knowledge that they have of man. This is evident by their arguments. God needs a wife to have an offspring. God needs to engage in sexual intercourse to beget a son. These points which they use, for their arguments, show that they really do not have any understanding of what "God is not a man" means.

[@Thomas20249]

Jesus is the Father, by hook or by crook !! Que sera sera hhhhh

[@Thomas20249]

Jesus is the Father hhhhhh Sabilian heresy !!!!!

[@badonlikoy5571]

The Father in heaven who is Spirit is not Jesus. Because the Word (Jesus) has granted to have life in Himself (John 5:26) through the Holy Spirit of God the Father Most High (Luke 1:35 & Matthew 1:20). But Jesus is the Father in Flesh, because Jesus said to His disciples "My Children" (John 13:33). And in Isaiah 9 :6.

[@_ibnmuhammad]

Can you give me one explicit verse from the new testament where Jesus was called as Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, Mighty God and Prince of Peace?

[@badonlikoy5571]

​@@_ibnmuhammadso you believed based on the explicit words. So what about Allah said explicitly that comes from the mouth of Allah saying, When I have formed him (Adam) and breathed into him "Of My Spirit" (Surah 15 :29). So according to Allah, He has a Spirit. So why don't you follow the words of your Allah, but instead you followed the interpretation of your Muslim scholars rather than your Allah? In fact, the Spirit belongs to domain of my Lord (Surah 17 :85).

[@_ibnmuhammad]

@@badonlikoy5571 Of course. Didn't Isaiah 9:6 says "He will be called"? So if Jesus wasn't called as such titles, why did you assume it was him?

[@_ibnmuhammad]

@@badonlikoy5571 I see, so when you're stuck in your own Bible, you will jump to the Quran. Nice try

[@_ibnmuhammad]

@@badonlikoy5571 So again, my challenge is give me an explicit verse in the whole new testament where Jesus was called as Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, Mighty God and Prince of Peace