First Time Hearing NEW ORDER! Bass Teacher REACTS to Peter Hook on "The Perfect Kiss"

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@devinthierault]

Hello! Loved my Eastwood Hooky basses

[@apolamperouge6013]

Hooky, it's awesome to see some reactions to your work. You're tremendously underrated.

[@ijustneedmyself]

See you in Chicago!!

[@lordoftranceaa]

Hi Hooky, love your bass lines!

[@cliffthelightning]

Saw you in Utrecht last year and it was great!

[@mhagain]

Hooky is one of THE iconic 80s bassists. I'd recommend the song Age of Consent for another good example of his style in New Order, or She's Lost Control by Joy Division.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@Chris-z1k7x]

Hooky himself?!?!

[@miguimau]

😍@@PeterHookAndTheLight

[@edwardduarte7393]

Hook throws the Hook. CEREMONY is the best new order/joy division. Seen them about 5 times live.

[@Colin-ro6lh]

70's & 80's

[@ghostpuppet31]

Level 42 and The Smiths had excellent bassists and deserve a look at. New order/Joy Division were great at interchanging bass, synth and drums in unique ways.

[@seanmckelvey6618]

Peter Hook is probably my favorite bass player of all time. I just love his approach to the instrument, it's very refreshing & creative.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@ihatebigtechs]

​@@PeterHookAndTheLightlove your bass lines and shows!!! come to brazil!!!!

[@napalmoaktree1980]

@@seanmckelvey6618 purely born from trying to be louder than Bernard’s guitar because the only way they could make Bernards guitar sound good through the amp he had was to turn it up full blast.

[@alphaomega2117]

They did it because you COULDN'T. They actually got someone to develop the tech to allow synths and drum machines to speak to each other. Almost all drum machine sounds for 25 years or more were Stephen Morris sounds as he had painstakingly recorded each sound and it was just easier to pay him the tiny royalty amount to use that than trying to do it yourself. This is basically the band whose DNA is woven through almost all modern dance and pop music. This is people pushing the envelope of what could be done.

[@JamesNeeson-r2q]

Hooky was great but no Burnell

[@hustler3of4culture3]

Such an amazing world we lived in

[@williamladd7]

​@@JamesNeeson-r2qHooky left NO and started a band with his son also on bass Peter Hook and the Light. I have seen him about 6 times

[@themeanster]

Thank you

[@napalmoaktree1980]

You are talking rubbish mate. Almost none of what you said is true.

[@talbrott]

"Dated sound." They created that sound. At the time I remember hearing them and it was cutting edge music. Imagine seeing an aussi pub rock band and then hearing this.

[@darrenbabidge4694]

New Order tended to do their own production hence everything being in it! This is a 'live in studio' rendition filmed by Jonathan Demme of Silence of the Lambs fame. Always loved the epic ending on this.

[@normandavidtidiman9918]

Yeah,pretty sure this NOT the same version referenced as being the 'Substance' track. That's the 12", or even remixed for Substance version.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@normandavidtidiman9918 Yeah, you can tell by Bernard's vocals here, on 'Substance' the vocals are more polished (well, for him).

[@therealnotanerd_account2]

Jonathan Demme also directed the video for Bruce Springsteen "Streets of Philadelphia" , which was also recorded "live" in the sense that Bruce was singing over the audio track of the song.

[@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion]

Demme did Stop Making Sense by the Talking Heads as well

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

@@normandavidtidiman9918 This was "live" to camera, New Order refused to mime over a pre-recorded track; the version in "Substance" is supposed to be the 12" edit.

[@anthonyv1719]

First band to have bass player become the lead guitar on many tracks - beautiful.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@d.williams9894]

For the most part Hooky played simple, often scaler, always melodic, higher position parts...and had a lot of drones on top, or bottom, depending on the run... -He was/is VERY MUCH a LEAD bass player!!!....and not like Harris/Maiden, Geddy/Rush, or even (the video presenter stated?!?!?..) John Taylor/Duran????.... -The only other "bassist" I can even think to equate is Simon Gallup/TheCure. Just because they both have that higher cutting style in a pop/rock (but NOT RAWK!!!...) song style. But Simon is WAY simpler and repetetive whereas Hooky has "song parts". -This is NOT typical blues based thumping on the root, metal chugging on the open E or A, or funk based slap-pop like RandB/disco...Just whatever he felt "fit" the song... -And the video guy has already (in first minute or so..) confused the Synth/programmed bass line doing the actual thumping for what Hooky jumps in and out...listen for the "chorusy/phased/flanged" picking bass sound... (and yes, Hooky did a short slap/pop at the beginning of THIS song, but I really don't remember any other times???... let me other Hooky fans...) -Hooky (and Simon/Cure) about the only to have ever made me think of putting down my guitar (typical Page influenced...) and play a very low slung bass like him!!!...just saying👍✌🤓😎🎸

[@GVike]

John Entwistle was the first rock bass dude who would lead guitar in songs. Peter took that concept to a new level.

[@ggggglllll7129]

Exactly!

[@MarkShippen]

Dont't forget the Stranglers - that's where Peter Hook got his sound from playing hi.

[@michaelwilson2340]

Hooky is my favorite musician. And New Order (with Hooky) are my life long favorite band. He's the reason I play the bass. And go all over the fretboard thanks to him.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@d.williams9894]

For the most part Hooky played simple, often scaler, always melodic, higher position parts...and had a lot of drones on top, or bottom, depending on the run... -He was/is VERY MUCH a LEAD bass player!!!....and not like Harris/Maiden, Geddy/Rush, or even (the video presenter stated?!?!?..) John Taylor/Duran????.... -The only other "bassist" I can even think to equate is Simon Gallup/TheCure. Just because they both have that higher cutting style in a pop/rock (but NOT RAWK!!!...) song style. But Simon is WAY simpler and repetetive whereas Hooky has "song parts". -This is NOT typical blues based thumping on the root, metal chugging on the open E or A, or funk based slap-pop like RandB/disco...Just whatever he felt "fit" the song... -And the video guy has already (in first minute or so..) confused the Synth/programmed bass line doing the actual thumping for what Hooky jumps in and out...listen for the "chorusy/phased/flanged" picking bass sound... (and yes, Hooky did a short slap/pop at the beginning of THIS song, but I really don't remember any other times???... let me other Hooky fans...) -Hooky (and Simon/Cure) about the only to have ever made me think of putting down my guitar (typical Page influenced...) and play a very low slung bass like him!!!...just saying👍✌🤓😎🎸

[@greggerypeccary]

@@PeterHookAndTheLight What ruined it for me was when Hooky started wearing jeans! Leather-jacket-and-sweatpants was the new James Dean look!

[@thebza451]

“i never heard of one of the greatest bass players in the history of rock music”

[@johnpenner5182]

as a musician i am constantly frusterated by everyone wants to play the same old blues - and i just want to play new order! 🤩 🎸

[@goofrider]

New Order is considered one of the pioneers in electronic music. What you consider "cheesy synth sounds" today were complicated layers of arpeggiated synth parts for its time, which were hard to reproduce reliably back then. The way Peter Hook plays bass and how it's right upfront in the mix is a signature of New Order's sound. As you've noticed, besides playing a melodic lead in the high register, he often also plays a drone note over/under the lead riff. It's faint on this record but it's way more pronounce in their other records. Also note that the *actual* baseline here is actually provided by a synth. In their later songs the synth baseline is a lot punchier, so it's more obvious the bass guitar is used as another lead instrument. Their 1983 single Blue Monday is often credited as the direct precursor to Chicago house, and an essential part of the evolution of electronic music. There's good chance you've heard it before. New Order is just Joy Division minus Ian Curtis. After Curtis passed away, Bernard Sumner stepped into vocal duty and the band changed their name to signify a new chapter, and began to incorporate more electronic elements. Blue Monday is their biggest departure in terms of sound, almost entirely electronic. Obviously this is the video to pick if you want to see how Peter Hook plays but you have to at least listen to Blue Monday (1983), Bizarre Love Triangle (1986) and True Faith (1987) to get the full spectrum of their sound and why they're so influential.

[@M2Mil7er]

Hooky's high register playing comes from early rehearsals in New Order's first incarnation as the band Joy Division, where the bass amp wasn't very loud so had to play up high to be heard, and it stuck as a stylistic choice.

[@eboethrasher]

Ian had told Hooky that he liked it and that he should keep doing it.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@d.williams9894]

@@PeterHookAndTheLight For the most part Hooky played simple, often scaler, always melodic, higher position parts...and had a lot of drones on top, or bottom, depending on the run... -He was/is VERY MUCH a LEAD bass player!!!....and not like Harris/Maiden, Geddy/Rush, or even (the video presenter stated?!?!?..) John Taylor/Duran????.... -The only other "bassist" I can even think to equate is Simon Gallup/TheCure. Just because they both have that higher cutting style in a pop/rock (but NOT RAWK!!!...) song style. But Simon is WAY simpler and repetetive whereas Hooky has "song parts". -This is NOT typical blues based thumping on the root, metal chugging on the open E or A, or funk based slap-pop like RandB/disco...Just whatever he felt "fit" the song... -And the video guy has already (in first minute or so..) confused the Synth/programmed bass line doing the actual thumping for what Hooky jumps in and out...listen for the "chorusy/phased/flanged" picking bass sound... (and yes, Hooky did a short slap/pop at the beginning of THIS song, but I really don't remember any other times???... let me other Hooky fans...) -Hooky (and Simon/Cure) about the only to have ever made me think of putting down my guitar (typical Page influenced...) and play a very low slung bass like him!!!...just saying👍✌🤓😎🎸

[@greggerypeccary]

@@d.williams9894 and Simon Gallup is obviously Hooky-influenced (including the bass type, if I remember correctly).

[@alexanderwilliams3955]

it was also because the cheap bass had was short scale and muddy on the bottom 'E'

[@babygerald4645]

Added fun fact: The music video is directed by Jonathan Demme ['Silence of the Lambs']. Yeah, I'm a New Order nerd.

[@TygonBC]

It's also effectively a live run-through in the studio, so differs from the album and 12" versions our dude mentions.

[@sooleyebajista]

He must've had a thing for Salford bands as he also put the fall in 'Silence of the Lambs'.

[@TokyoXtreme]

This live track is available on disc 5 of the Retro compilation, for anyone interested.

[@fulltiltgonzales]

This video came out in 1985, when I was 16, and after seeing it for the very first time, I immediately went to Guitar Center in Santa Ana, CA and put down half as a deposit (they used to let you do that back then - it was called putting it on lay-away) which was $250 on a $500 Fender Jazz Bass Special, made in Japan (it was glossy black with a thick glossy black neck and a black rosewood fretboard), and that is the day I became a bass player, and I hadn't ever even heard of Joy Division yet, and that was the beginning of my Peter Hook discovery - the man who single-handedly changed the face of bass playing in that era, and turned the bass into a lead MELODIC instrument with his trademark very simple (so that anybody could do it, which held to the post-punk aesthetic) but so cool and original bass playing that turned so many on to the bass during the reign of the 6-string guitar gods. Peter Hook's bass playing totally stood out for both Joy Division and New Order and played a huge part in the success of both bands. It's so cool to see a bass TEACHER discovering this whole thing RIGHT NOW - it's a testament to Peter Hook's enduring legacy. He (along with John Taylor of Duran Duran) were two of the main reasons that I ever took up the instrument.

[@LowEndUniversity]

Thank you! Great read!!

[@michaelmaier4810]

Did you happen to catch any of their Irvine Meadows gigs?

[@zziicckk01]

The frog part was added to accentuate the myth of the 'perfect kiss'; when the princess kisses the frog and it becomes a handsome prince. Edit: The long version of this song is much superior and more enjoyable to listen to.

[@napalmoaktree1980]

There is no version longer than this one. They are playing the 12 inch version here with an extended intro so this is actually the longest recorded version of this song.

[@zziicckk01]

@@napalmoaktree1980 - your reply doesn't detract from my statement. :) I never claimed the version on this video wasn't the extended version.

[@napalmoaktree1980]

@@zziicckk01 👍

[@peterendall1621]

many have tried, but no one will ever play bass like Peter Hook. His sound made JD and NO what they were and still are today. A true original, a true legend.

[@biglebowski5207]

Welcome to Peter Hook's sound - glad you finally found it. Chalk me up for another vote for "Ceremony"

[@peroskarstorholm4196]

Fun fact: this video is a live performance. No miming or overdubs. The band showed up and played this live to tape. What you see is what you hear! You might recognise those anxious facial expressions from the beginnig as those of the start of any live show ‘come hell or high water; here we go!’

[@Bewar3them00n]

You’ve got a whole world of New Order to discover!

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@thesean3194]

Yes he does. It’s nice tho that Mark discovered this band finally.

[@peaceloveandkindess7840]

@@PeterHookAndTheLightlove ya brother, no one like you

[@birdytiger]

His tone stayed so consistent tbrough the years and fit the album vibes every time

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@orwelles]

What a perfect song for one of your reactions. One of my favorite songs and videos of all time. So cool to see your analysis!

[@LowEndUniversity]

Thank you! Cheers!!

[@VIC-20_Synthwave]

Hooky is a Legend! Reason why there is untraditional bass in my music.

[@chillwinston71]

You def need to see Peter Hook and the Light... Incredible !

[@KelliAnnCreative]

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[@stevectg2601]

"Thieves like Us" is a great track with a nice bass sound. It's always been one of my favorites.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@user-jj6wj5wx5c]

Totally

[@andreas1963ap]

...it´s my all time favourite song 😎👍

[@simonwilkins2082]

Hooky said he lifted the bass line from Emma by Hot Chocolate!

[@ggggglllll7129]

I’m sorry, but I hear you comparing them to Duran Duran and you are just unaware that NO did this first and all the other bands followed. They changed music as we know it but SO many people have never heard of them, even all these years later. They are a national treasure in England and Europe - hardly known in the US. You could release any of their songs today and they would sound new. The most perfect song I’ve ever heard is Blue Monday. After hearing it thousands of times over the years, I can still hear something I never heard before. And I feel so lucky to have heard and seen them very early in their careers and still going to see them today. My favorite band of all time. P.S. I will be seeing Peter Hook and the Light this coming September.

[@hustler3of4culture3]

I have a memory from high school dancing to THIS song with my friends at some prom type dance in a bank in like 1984. We were all huge new order fans and we were all Americans. Granted they weren't on the radio, but we had cool record stores. This was my first of many New Order albums. Some of us knew. They were and are beloved.

[@akwilson1676]

"Duran Duran vibes" that's like saying The Beatles have Oasis vibes.

[@Farewelltokingz]

The Cure totally ripped off the high bass/lead parts of PH. Duran weren’t using drum machines much in the early 80s, that polished groove was all based off of Chic with elements of Roxy.

[@kaneshuppert636]

Saw new order a couple years ago without Peter and it was still a great show, band super respect their history. Here in the US it was “alternative” music. If I don’t feel like listening to anything, New Order will do it.

[@mongooz24]

@@akwilson1676 except only Duran Duran was compared to the Beatles being dubbed the “fab five”

[@johnnymann7929]

Peter Hook (& the Light) will be touring North America later in 2024. Totally worth seeing live!

[@m1k3g3tz]

this version of this song is basically an organic remix of the original. new order were always on the cutting edge of tech for their time. Blue Monday was basically written as a demo to learn how a sequencer worked ... and ended being one of their biggest hits. even back in the joy division days, hook was generally the lead voice of the band, with bernard's guitar in more of a rhythm role. however you look at it - dance music would never be what it is today without new order.

[@eboethrasher]

The 12" is the original. The album version is an edit of it, with the intro being like "The Kiss of Death" dub b-side of the 12". The Substance version is a slightly shorter edit to fit on the CD. the 7" is an even shorter edit.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@romelovesdan]

Hook's son is now the touring bass player for The Smashing Pumpkins.

[@dzod]

During this period when New Order were a very electronic synthesiser based band the low end bass was always played on synthesisers. Peter Hook played his bass as more of a lead instrument playing in the mid and upper octaves. You would rarely see him play anything below the 5th fret. This has always been his signature sound even from the Joy Division days.

[@simonhaslam]

This video was directed by Jonathan Demme (Silence of the Lambs, etc).

[@misterkite]

For another interesting bass band: Ned's Atomic Dustbin. Two bassists.

[@matthewarnold5531]

Went to the sixth form in the town where Ned's Atomic Dustbin were from, just as they were beginning to become famous. Robert Plant went to my VI Form college too... famous town, Stourbridge.

[@brianschmitzer6722]

Ned's is cool.

[@BennettLee-t9j]

Great 90’s band. Also Inspiral Carpets

[@willjam465]

The algorithm suggested I watch this. I have been a fan of New Order since the 80's when the music was new. Also love Joy Division. Peter Hook is one of my favorite bass players and someone I have looked to for my own style on bass. Hope you have gone back to listen to all of his work with Joy Division and New Order. In my humble opinion, I think it is worth it.

[@peecee2000]

Saw New Order play this song before the album Low Life came out. Must’ve been early ‘85. A band called Laff were in support. Six feet away from Hooky, he was wearing a T shirt with “Kill ‘em all, Let God sort ‘em out…” Crowds were sometimes rude in those days, telling the band to fuck off, giving them two fingers, Hooky was having none of that and telling them to fuck off back.

[@alexsmart5452]

Near the end of the video..The guy in the door with the soft but blinding white light that makes him more a shape then a person represents Ian Curtis looking down from heaven on his bandmates new sound...or that was the rumor of the time. The guitarist is Bernard Sumner who was the guitarist in JD, and took over lead vocals and writing most of the lyrics after Ian died.

[@Chapelwood]

One figure in the window is Arthur Baker.. he brought them to New York City to take them around to the dance clubs.. and they took in their Confusion record to have it played at those clubs.. from then on they randomly came out with the 12 inch singles for dance clubs only.. many times not on the album of that came out.

[@lauracipollone294]

That must be Rob Gretton their manager

[@user-dbjekenbfjr526]

Peter Hook is a bass legend

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@enterstatecommunications]

you got to think about new order different. this isnt the extended version. this is THE version (recorded live for the video). the album version is edited. before this album none of their singles appear on any album. they are independent releases. if there is a 7 and 12 version then they are likely different recordings.

[@themeanster]

This particular video is also live. The perfect live recording of the perfect kiss 💋

[@AdamStoffa]

Peter Hook and the Light are touring the States. Perhaps seeing a live performance would be helpful.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@user-jj6wj5wx5c]

Good call. They're brilliant live.

[@bryanlucas4754]

Do it man. Then come back and tell us how you enjoyed the gig.

[@maximillianlylat1589]

Ill be seeing him later this year. Im looking forward to it

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

This video was performed live. Jonathan Demme wanted to capture the stress on their faces. IIRC, bass parts are pretty much always synth. The lead singer for Joy Division sadly self deleted, and New Order is the same band continuing on - adding Gilbert on keys. IIRC in an interview, they noted that their approach to synths was different, as they contended that most synth pop bands were made of wealthy people who could afford synths and grew up with piano lessons - whereas they were a working man band that used their Joy Division money to add synths... at least that's what I recall the jist of the message being. So, you are always going to have many interesting, yet very simple layers in their excellent music. ...and as the other commenters have pointed out... You must already know their song Blue Monday. Nice reaction. [edit: Oh. I think (pretty sure) the synth picture (the 3U Rack) is an Octave Plateau Voyetra-8.. which had such an early "MIDI" implementation, that it connected via XLR. I don't recall if it is also the synth with the croaking frogs preset... The first time I touched a Voyetra8 in a music shop was also the first time I heard the croaking frogs preset.. but I don't recall if it was the same instrument, as the croaking kinda sounds like a sample. I'd love to know.]

[@user-cs4fg1rm5k]

Forgot to add that New Order is still around, just not with Peter Hook unfortunately. It was a contentious split up but Hooky is touring with his own band playing many of the old hits. Not the same without his bass.

[@ExplodingChef]

I've seen both NO and PH+TL multiple times in the last few years, and for my money Hooky live doing JD stuff is miles better than NO doing JD stuff live.

[@andrewterry4459]

I was surprised to hear him talk about multitrack recording without appearing to realize this is a live performance.

[@xmodrecordshypersyncrecord843]

The frogs were on a Emulator 1. Stephen was playing the samples on it. I remember they were doing a radio station live performance when this was filmed and I guess they got there late and it was a mess and they were upset. I think at one point I saw some of it on a video they started a song and had to restart it because it was off. I should know these things since my favorite band. lol. Just cant remember right off hand.

[@brandenwilson4378]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! Dude you know New Order even if you didn’t know them

[@maxine2798]

It’s a Blue Monday indeed. Even the intro to Ceremony

[@michaelwilson2340]

Yes. I still hear 'Blue Monday ' 'Bizarre Love Triangle ' and 'True Faith' on my local radio stations. And occasionally hear 'Regret' as bumper music for Coast To Coast. The overnight paranormal AM radio show.

[@the.bloodless.one1312]

I refuse to believe this guy’s been a musician probably for decades, and been alive for 3 decades and hasn’t heard Blue Monday at least once… that would literally defy the laws of physics. 😹

[@natevanek2785]

Yeah, I dropped my phone when I heard that.

[@Jaspertine]

I have to assume he's heard either Blue Monday or Bizarre Love Triangle out in the wild and just didn't know who it was.

[@slumberwall]

The most unique part of the sound of Joy Division, and then New Order, was Peter Hook's use of the bass as the lead instrument, playing the melodic hook of each song high up on the neck while the bass frequencies of the song's sound were supplied by the drums, keyboards or guitars. As far as I know, no other rock band had ever done this before, and although several other 80's alternative British bands would try incorporate it, it's never been used by anyone else so prominently: like Miles Davis' trumpet, or Jaco Pastorius' electric jazz bass, it's Hook's own unique sound, and so anyone else playing that way can't help but just sound like an imitator.

[@jasonhammar2558]

According to Deborah Curtis in her novel Touching from a distance, Ian didn't like the fact that the bass was the prominent sounding instrument.

[@theghostsofgiants]

Peter Hook always played higher notes (or at least started out doing it) because their amps were so shitty when they started Joy Division that it was the only way he could hear his bass lol. Also, interesting choice for everyone to suggest, I'd have probably suggested something like Age of Consent or Ceremony (or even Blue Monday which you have definitely heard before). As for Joy Division (I think I suggested this before but) Disorder is a banger.

[@LowEndUniversity]

Interesting! I'll be back to Joy Division soon. I pulled up "Blue Monday" just now and played the entire track, don't recognize it at all. Really neat track though!

[@theghostsofgiants]

@@LowEndUniversity That is genuinely shocking to me lol. Korn/Limp Bizkit-adjacent band Orgy had a pretty popular cover of "Blue Monday" that was always on the radio back in like 1998 haha.

[@aricoarena7518]

@@LowEndUniversityhow old are you?

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

Your face as you’re listening to the layers, the sounds, etc. is exactly as we felt when it came out. This was just a monster. Don’t forget that this song was a major club hit. New Order were the greatest rock disco band of all time. And, the frog sounds were mind blowing.

[@anthonyv1719]

One of the best and iconic bands of all time......

[@andreamaronn4510]

"Early shades of dance..." Most definitely. Blue Monday anyone? ❤

[@gavinshickle1814]

The 80's really was an incredible decade for music. For all genres. INXS, Prince, Skinny Puppy, Bauhaus, Front 242, Sick of it All, 7 Seconds, Lionel Ritchie, Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, and on and on.

[@patsgarage8593]

The twists and turns of this song / video were insane. I had no idea what was coming next!! Loved it

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@robertogreen]

jonathan demme, off of directing stop making sense, did this video. I saw this as the opening short before the screening of SMS at the Pleasant Street Theater in Northampton Mass in 198whatever. one of the best cinematic experiences of my life.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

👍

[@jasontyler17]

Great song choice! All the "guitar" you hear in this is Hook's bass.

[@1thess523]

When I found that out years ago i was like 😮

[@eboethrasher]

Barney plays guitar during the breaks, he plays chords but then does some melodic notes, you can see him doing it near the end.

[@roybatty2152]

HOOKY! Thanks for giving this great great song some attention. Video directed by Jonathan Demme, who also directed (amongst many other things) The Silence of the Lambs.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

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[@berniespy]

The song that got me into playing bass :) You made me appreciate the nuances of this track even more Thank you

[@cmmarcoux]

There's a lot going on in this song. To get a clearer sense of how Hook and New Order used bass guitar front and center in melodies, maybe have a look at "True Faith" or "Age of Consent"

[@brianschmitzer6722]

Two fvcking GREAT recommendations right there.

[@stewartmitchell8007]

Hooky is the lead bass king. Bizarre love triangle has a superb bass solo.

[@duellist]

Peter Hook, the reason why I bought my first bass. Bought Substance when it came out in 87. Still love this album

[@HeadacheMachine]

A bass player who never heard of Peter Hook is unthinkable...

[@pyenapple]

Chill. There’s literally too much music for even aficionados to hear all the greats. No shame

[@LMfromBakutoUK]

I cried when i watched this song being played live by Peter Hook and The Light few years back.. and I don't cry like ever...😅

[@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion]

I have seen him play this live with The Light. When they finished the track he flailed his hand a bit to get the blood back into it.

[@cooperman397]

Yeah was awesome! Pottsy on vocals superb too.

[@alisonmercieca1465]

Watching Hooky play this live with the Light is life. And I have also cried (and I don’t do that often either)

[@MrPomelo555]

« The guitarist » is named Bernard Sumner and has been the lead singer of New Order since 1980, after being the co-founder and guitarist of Joy Division. For more Peter Hook bass sound, I suggest the New Order songs Age of Consent, Leave Me Alone and Primitive Notion and Joy Division’s Twenty Four Hours and Monaco’s What Do You Want From Me (Peter’s side project in the 90s) and, more recently, his collaboration with Gorillaz on the song Aries.

[@conkersbadfurday356]

Im remember going to town( Manchester) with my mate to a back street record shop and the bloke who owned it had a telly with this playing as it was just released. We both just stood there in silence watching this in awe.

[@NickHarman]

Hooky was famous for playing the notes high and having his bass down by his ankles

[@GiulioDalleVedove]

Hooky is using a Yamaha BB 1200S which is like a regular Pbass but with reverse plit pick up, and is different from the regular BB1200, it had a preamp active mounted on it, he's boosting highs and lows while mantaining medium mids, all of this goes through a vintage Electro Harmonix Clone Theory pedal! Another peculiarity that i don't know since when, but he uses a 60 on the G string! Here's the constructed sound that i love since day one!

[@Silsoe123]

This live take is peak New Order.

[@joefrog91]

I loved when I saw Hooky play The Perfect Kiss live and he said, "And thats how you playing the fookin' Perfect Kiss!'

[@WilfredGoncalves]

This version was played live for the video.The perfect Kiss was released in 1985; two years before the Substance compilation. One of the first CDs i ever bought. An all time Classic ❤

[@RUMBLEKATmule]

Whaaaat? How hav you never heard if Hooky? One of the best!

[@floretion]

I believe the iconic Peter Hook taught himself to play and has claimed on several occasions that he is not capable of playing other basists' riffs, only ones he has composed on his own. New Order, The Cure, Kraftwer Depeche Mode were my "big four" bands growing up in the 80s. I liked them when I was was 14 and still do today (in fact, we got to go to a Depeche Mode concert in Berlin a few weeks ago). Two of my favorite songs by N.O. are Eligia and True Faith.

[@greggerypeccary]

Didn't he say he choose bass because it had less strings than guitar, so probably easier to play? Or was it someone else.

[@cactusrider7686]

Neds Atomic Dustbin - two bass players one band..."walking in syrup"

[@1thess523]

I did a drum cover of Happy 👍

[@cactusrider7686]

@@1thess523 I think he would get a kick out of the Neds. The early 90s production didn't do any favors for hearing the bass though...I've always felt like the mixing was a bit dry/thin

[@seanmckelvey6618]

Grey Cell Green is a great track as well. God Fodder is a great record overall.

[@philmcinally1248]

Just commented the same thing, sorry I didn't scroll down the comments first. Ned's was awesome!

[@brian.barclay]

Was just going to drop them in. Respect.

[@philmcinally1248]

If you like the Rickenbacker bass that Peter Hook plays, try another UK band called Ned's Atomic Dustbin. They actualy had two bassists in their lineup that interchanged their parts for rhythm and lead. One played a Rickenbacker too. Happy and Kill your Television would be a good starting point. Very underrated 90's band IMO.

[@beaufredericks4547]

Hooky didn't own a Rickenbacker. He had a Japanese Rick copy in Joy Division but never got a real one. Yamaha, Shergold and Eccleshall I think were his basses in New Order.

[@nostro1001]

I'm not a bass player (guitar), but I don't think Hookey ever used a Rickenbacker.. He had a copy in JD days, then moved to a Shergold. Then he had a custom (gibson style bass), can't recall the brand and moved at some point to his Yamaha.

[@johnpenner5182]

saw radiohead open for ned's atomic dustbin in toronto back when radiohead was still breaking 'creep' - ned's duel bass guitars were mighty! 🎸

[@riverplate0101]

How can you not heard of them? Where are you from?

[@christianhelwig]

Brilliant song, brilliant video.

[@YTPartyTonight]

Notice that on those Yamaha basses, as Hook played, the split P-type pickup coils are staggered in reverse of the classic Fender P pickup configuration. The high-side coil is closer to the neck, providing the high-side D and G a touch more bass or tonal weight. I've always wanted to try one because of this.

[@alphaomega2117]

Try "She's Lost Control Again" by Joy Division and "Blue Monday" by New Order to get a broader picture of just what Peter Hook is capable off.

[@MikheasXs]

That outro, right after the frog theme, unraveling and amplifying again, and again and again, is so marvellous. What dreams are made of. ❤

[@JV-wl6ex]

My fav song by them, I used to have their VHS of videos to their most popular tracks. the last few minutes of this track used to get me hyped for any night, it’s a little hard to explain. This song means something different to me with each passing decade. Thank you for breaking it down from your perspective, I know everyone’s take is never the same especially from a generation now just hearing them for the first time

[@RobertWalsh-vp5ui]

this is one of my favourite New Order songs and I've always loved this particular performance of it

[@Rad_Radster_Experience]

Peter Hook said in a interview that the reason why he played such high notes so he could hear himself over the guitar and drums (back in Joy Division and carried over to New Order) often times he said he played his bass like a guitar.

[@deanmartin9199]

I bought the 12 inch of this when it came out, without hearing it. When I got home, I put it on the turntable and was blown away. Pretty sure I had tears of joy when it finished!

[@shanehoffman1510]

this video was recorded live according to Stephen Morris' book!

[@BOONERBOYO]

Hooky is a great bassist.

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

❤

[@module79l28]

The singer/guitarist is playing the cowbell, the bassist is playing the drums and the drummer is playing a synth. Like you said, everything's swapped! 😄

[@eboethrasher]

I made the same comment, love it. Drummer on lead frogs.

[@LowEndUniversity]

Musical chairs! 🤓

[@pfink70]

12:35 - The frogs? You gotta kiss the frog to get the prince...the perfect kiss.

[@JeffCappelletti]

The synthesizers that were racked up high was the Voyetra-8. It had a keyboard that connected to the synthesizer via a telephone cable. Peter Hook was hitting the Simmons briefcase pad system. The high bass sound was Peter's signature sound. The keyboard player playing the frog sample is also New Order's drummer. This was an actual live performance at B.B.C. studios. There was some parts of the song being played by the Yamaha QX-5 digital sequencer. Peter quit New Order in 2007. Tom Chapman New Order's current bass player has the same high bass sound as Peter. New Order's last album released was Music Complete.

[@jeffalbers2653]

Two Tribes by Frankie Goes to Hollywood is a great 80’s song. Bass is rippin.

[@babygerald4645]

This is possibly the best version of this amazing song, which is almost ten minutes long on 12", edited down a minute for Substance and way shorter with a fade out on the Low-life album. It is my favorite New Order track and grabbed me from the minute I first heard it in my friend's Honda Civic on the way to high school in 1987. It's a work of art. Thanks for covering it-- glad to see newer generations of musicians find this great music.

[@LowEndUniversity]

Awesome!! 🙏🏼

[@rochdale33]

Always LOVED the frogs

[@tabajaralabs]

You just heard one of the two most influential somgs of that era. The other being blue monday, also from new order. It changed the musical sceme forever. New order is an entire world to discover. Have you heard about The Haçienda?

[@jamesolivercalip2587]

This was performed live as I recall.

[@csilt]

You should talk less and listen more. New Order was a super unique band in the 80s that no one else sounded like

[@stander9406]

No one sounded like joy division but new order is so much more washed out in a can of both but joy division just brings about more emotion with their rawness, new order could easily be replicated but nothing will compare to Ian Curtis.

[@alisonmercieca1465]

That Hooky bass outro is the best bar none. If you ever get the chance to see him play this live, take it.

[@Department_of_Justice]

This was my favorite group for a long time. Their sound somehow locked into a lot of people.

[@MichaelMacedonia-ml9cn]

This album was epic, which has two tracks that made it into the Rolling stone top 500 Songs of all time. The baseline on 'True Faith' track also has a unique flavor. I'm surprised how under - publicized this group was.

[@jwbstrd]

Fantastic track!! I had the pleasure of seeing them in concert last year. They ended the show with a few Joy Division songs. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@andrewbenson4439]

New Order pretty much reinvented themselves after Ian Curtis’ death

[@AndiReySim]

This was dance music. Still is. So fun. Thank you for covering it!

[@LowEndUniversity]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@DarthShayanTool.]

I love their embarrassed looks at the end which for me are just the expression of: Damn Bernard, what did you do with that damn bell??? lol

[@michaelwilson1020]

Going to hear this classic and many more... Sept 23....... can't wait

[@thelonesomerider]

i think it's indeed high time for a young guy like u to discover bands like new order & especially hooky's way to play the bass as a lead instrument in almost every of their songs during the 80s... ;-) simply enjoy it! :-) cheers!

[@PeterHookAndTheLight]

❤

[@cejannuzi]

Actually a lot of their songs are built around his bass parts. He wrote much of their music. They were extremely influential on a lot of musicians in the US. But also in Europe as well. Hook has videos up on YT where he shows you his distinctive bass parts for many of the famous songs.

[@jess-jess6048]

I was wondering when you would drop some Peter hook. Now I just need Carlos D’s bass lines dissected

[@LowEndUniversity]

Had to search that name real quick - ahhh, Interpol! Definitely have seen a couple requests in recent months, but no real song mentioned that I recall. Any suggestions? I've heard the band name, but don't believe I've listened to them before.

[@SebPaez]

@lowenduniversity “Obstacle 1” would be my pick of your intro to Interpol and Carlos D’s style where he blends a lot of eighties stuff from more obvious influences like Peter Hook and Simon Gallup in him going high up on the neck but he also has / had a very funky approach to rhythms with a lot of octave jumps and syncopation that he got from John Taylor according to an interview I read way back then. In my rock/metal/punk /goth mind just getting into Joy Division I couldn’t get why he would revere Duran Duran but then I checked out some early KZbin videos of Duran Duran covers and was very impressed with the bass work which in turn led me to Chic and Bernard Edwards and expanding my musical tastes. I think every bass player should learn some disco/pop lines regardless of their main style, it’s such fun to play but also a quite demanding exercise which helps you develop your pocket

[@Froyo__]

Good morning, Mark! Great way to start my day 🤘

[@LowEndUniversity]

Love it! 🙏🏼

[@ricardoroberto7054]

Blimey. Been a fan of Joy Division and New Order since the start. You make me feel so old!