I've always interpreted the ending of King's run not so much as an "Is Scott alive or not?", but rather as "Happiness exist. The ghosts of the past will never leave, but they can't take away your happiness". I think it's a very uplifting ending. The whole "Darkseid is" is sort of a variation on "S*it happens". Bad stuff will always exist, but as long as we have love, we can get through it. Awesome video, Owen ❤️
@geraldnyundo85233 жыл бұрын
I always thought the ending was about having a family having the peace of a happy ending whether Scott felt like it's a trap and having to escape but deciding against it. Whether he deserves it, whether he fears it not being real, he has it and he's alright
@captainclipy62362 жыл бұрын
You could even interpret it as “darkness is”
@treek10k Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@UnoDoseMedia4 ай бұрын
See
@AverageDrafter3 жыл бұрын
Writers love Kirby because he was a wellspring of ideas designed for others to iterate off of. When a writer approaches Kirby's work they see an infinite number of ready to pick up masterpieces, and a no matter how many people touch those characters, settings, and ideas, you can always return to the core of Kirby's work and start over from there. Tom King's Mister Miracle is absolutely indicative of this quality of Kirby's work.
@treek10k Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@jasonpike4489 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. Absolutely.
@MrScroogedmcduck5 ай бұрын
Not true 4 World. Get therapy on your l. P.. KIRBY. Action and ideals !
@MrScroogedmcduck5 ай бұрын
@@treek10koh
@NandovMovies3 жыл бұрын
An absolutely phenomenal video! I'm so honored to be a part of it!
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, man ❤️
@Radioknock3 жыл бұрын
"Darkseid is." "Yeah, I know. But, we are too."
@dlvnmedia3 жыл бұрын
Dahsa Ahs you mean
@primax55033 жыл бұрын
It's so touching that Scott name his son Jacob as a tribute to Jack Kirby So happy to see kirby's creations gets attention in this era
@MattDraper3 жыл бұрын
DARKSEID IS ... someone who I think would really enjoy this great video!
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
I think Darkseid would definitely smash that like button.
@daviddyster41453 жыл бұрын
I wish The Forth World was a successful run. Kirby deserved better in life as he does in death.
@paultrought2673 жыл бұрын
It IS Successful.
@paultrought2673 жыл бұрын
@handri i Subsequently, it was wildly successfull. The price of being well ahead of his time.
@savageshot37233 жыл бұрын
@@paultrought267 HI Paul
@paultrought2673 жыл бұрын
@@savageshot3723 Hello Savage !
@matthewbennett1972 Жыл бұрын
@handri i too far ahead of it’s time
@illestvillain15523 жыл бұрын
i shed a tear because this tribute was so beautiful and what made me uncomfortable with how jack kirby and stan lee’s relationship was how tumultuous it was. At least they hashed it out towards the end and the comic harkens back to that beautifully, which in all honesty kirby deserves because of how at times he was overlooked and also how prolific he was.🕊❤️
@paultrought2673 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't simply go by Stan lee's summary, but i do hope their last words between each other was accurate.
@illestvillain15523 жыл бұрын
@@paultrought267 i would like to think there was no love lost between them, it would not sit well with me if jack passed away with a broken heart, even though he positively impacted future generations to come. Although alan moore had a lot of vitriol for stan lee (on the basis of the contentious relationship between marvel and jack kirby.)
@paultrought2673 жыл бұрын
@@illestvillain1552 I have read so many acticles about Stan Lee's proclivity for hypobole that i would've liked to have heard from Jack himself in the video. Still, They were both great men in the field of Literature. But, Mr Jacob Kurtzberg was a bit special.
@o-wolf Жыл бұрын
They never hashed anything out unfortunately.. Stan Lee screwed over a lot of ppl in his time but Kirby got it the worst
@treek10k Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@daves-c89192 жыл бұрын
The saddest moment in this book, to me, is the distance between Barda and Scott when she’s giving birth to their first child. He’s so far and emotionally unavailable, and she doesn’t really notice, because her ideas of love and closeness are just as broken and missing as his…
@MrScroogedmcduck5 ай бұрын
Oh no ..... KIRBY. Now hold hands
@DavidRamirez-wq6zi3 жыл бұрын
Other artists at the time of Jack Kirby were told to mimic his style. The only other artist at that time to try and be imitated was Neal Adams. No other artists came close to the dynamic style of these two legends.
@caligulapontifex57593 жыл бұрын
Well said. Although Adams did not have the world building creative genius of Kirby, it can be argued that the comic artform can be divided into two periods. Kirby's cartoon style and Adam's photorealism style.
@DavidRamirez-wq6zi3 жыл бұрын
@@caligulapontifex5759 I agree. Comics being the visual media it is, when Adams showed up I was blown away. I was a teenager then. I must admit by the mid-seventies anything Adams did, regardless of the story, I got it. I did support Kirby's " Fouth World ". It was very under appreciated
@georgewilliams42583 жыл бұрын
While he didn't draw as many books you could add Sterenko to the list.
@ACMaddocks2 ай бұрын
I'd also add Wally Wood
@troyoboyo173 жыл бұрын
Fucking beautiful. So proud of you, Owen, you absolutely killed it with this.
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, mate ❤️
@Akkbar212 жыл бұрын
As a person who feels that ComicPop is the gold standard for comic channels, I’ve really grown to enjoy your videos over the last few days. You seem reasonable, well researched and you treat every video like the viewer is new to the subject. The latter is an massively underrated problem with “new media”… too specialized. Don’t alienate and fail to inform every viewer.
@DCMarvelMultiverse3 жыл бұрын
The best scene blocker, idea man, and action choreographer in comics. The only actual "filmmaker" in comics.
@VuotoPneumaNN2 жыл бұрын
Nah. He was no filmmaker. He was a true cartoonist. Comics and film are different languages and work differently. "If you only see comic books in terms of films, then eventually the best we can end up with is films that don't move." (A. Moore)
@vaggelisbaousis17563 жыл бұрын
During my first readthrough, Barda's "Darkseid Is" sent an abnormal chill down my spine, unlike anything I've experienced while reading a comic. Excellent video btw.
@localloser74152 жыл бұрын
Jack Kirby is my second favorite artist of all time and to continuesley see him mistreated is always heartbreaking
@OomaGooma3 жыл бұрын
I’m not crying. There’s, uh, something in my eye. Yeah, that’s it.
@franciscorocha4803 жыл бұрын
It's a just a bit of dust
@simonedwards55643 жыл бұрын
heh
@kittystrand93373 жыл бұрын
Omg it’s really here, I’m so proud of u!!
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@dlvnmedia3 жыл бұрын
I love Kirbys New Gods run - Barda is one of his most gorgeous characters
@mitchgerads4413 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Truly. I cried. Bastards.
@Launchpad053 жыл бұрын
It's not just Kirby who never get's associated with his characters. Alot of cartoon creators never get called back to work on any revival of their creations. Craig McCracken was never asked to work on the 'Powerpuff Girls' reboot.
@hattorinarwhal3 жыл бұрын
That scene with Funky and Jack made me cry back when I read it, and now it made me cry again.
@michaelthethird7022 жыл бұрын
It took me 10 months to watch this video. Mister Miracle reached me in so many ways (a son, a mentee, a father, and so on), so it has been hard for me to hear others talk about this story. But I'm glad I did as the quotes, info behind Kirby's Fourth World, explanation of King's intentions, and background into Kirby's life have enriched the experience that I had with the story. Excellent job, Owen.
@andrewdirector3 жыл бұрын
you’ve increased my love for this series by making this video
@eduardoruiz76003 жыл бұрын
Such a great deep dive into one of my favorite comics of all time. There was so much about the book’s history and metaphors I didn’t catch in my first reading (like the relationship between Funky and Jacob) so I’m gonna appreciate my next reading of this story even more
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
There's so many great little details in this comic, you can really tell King and Gerads did their research.
@Marcos_Tired3 жыл бұрын
Man... being depressed and suffering from deep anxiety, this history just hited like a brick. I may try to read it myself, watching this really just helped me little to deal a anxiety crises. Truly an amazing work.
@quarterpie27693 жыл бұрын
All of this is so beautiful. Its wild that the man created true staples in both universes that probably wont go away for a very long time. He really deserves so much recognition.
@geeksplainedpod3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of the best things ever put on this platform. Bravo sir!!
@Starkilleraver Жыл бұрын
I brought this because of this video and now its my favourite comic I've read so thank you for introducing me to it.
@DCMarvelMultiverse3 жыл бұрын
According to Evanier, Kirby did not get a higher wage per se. He had to do more than one book with a writer and an artist page rate with an editor salary on top. He worked four times harder to earn that money as opposed to working as much as others for a higher wage.
@caligulapontifex57593 жыл бұрын
Kirby came from a generation that experienced the great depression and where most people were loyal company men regardless of the circumstances. It's hard to image nowadays, where people leave their jobs for a higher salary or benefits at a drop of a hat (not saying that's wrong). Marvel management took advantage of that loyalty and exploited him. They promised him a lot but never delivered. It took years for Kirby to finally take the step and leave for DC. Unfortunately, DC despite early promises also betrayed him. Most famously, by having Curt Swan redraw superman's face on the Jimmy Olsen comic book Kirby was drawing.
@outpostalpha3 жыл бұрын
Finished watching the video and then immediately watched it again, it was so good. Owen continues to outdo himself.
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that!
@albertofx25343 жыл бұрын
I thought I had looked into all the little tributes and homages this series had as is what coming out but I'm glad to see there was even more I didn't know of. This is some of your best work, Owen. Great video.
@IzayaLee17253 жыл бұрын
Wow that's all I can say is wow, Owen my man you really out did yourself with this one
@carlitogilchrist19393 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best video I’ve ever seen about comics. That series is great, and now this video makes me want to read it again.
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that's mighty high praise!
@mrdontknowhatguy36072 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful tribute to the king of comics
@joshheralal87583 жыл бұрын
Mister Miracle is so underrated. Amazing video.
@PaulTagliatelle3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video as always Owen! Tragic that Scott's Kirby line was cut off but that's one small thing in an otherwise flawless documentary with a lot of love poured into it.
@seankkg3 жыл бұрын
Kirby's fascination with cosmic beings was truly ahead of its time.
@callumgordon40643 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading this series the other day and absolutely loved it, so I’m eagerly awaiting this video to make me love it even more
@matt15 Жыл бұрын
It’s been a while since a KZbin made me cry, much less brought me to tears multiple times. This was a great video.
@rolandkatsuragi3 жыл бұрын
11:20 It's sad that Kirby has said his time at Hanna-Barbera was the best of his career
@DAF_Punk Жыл бұрын
Those lines towards the end have always stuck with me, as such an excellent use of how comic book elements can really touch and affect how one sees their own life, even if the story of what you’re reading can seem so disconnected. “Darkseid is”. “Yeah, I know. But… We are too.” It’s so simple, yet so profound. Truly incredible.
@Clepston3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video, so full of emotion. Fantastic work here, truly.
@batman57223 жыл бұрын
I like how a few months ago I got Mr Miracle in a Lego mystery bag and I didn't know who he was till now. I love the character more now.
@maycontainviolence5587 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you.
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ginofrancejr5552 жыл бұрын
This series overall is a excellent deconstruction of a superhero but also a story of overcoming inner and outer darkness. Kirby is the king for a reason he stories and characters are infinite in terms of possibilities
@benjamin61943 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, great job weaving the history of Kirby together with the run of Mister Miracle that referenced them. I think your visuals are improving too.
@rcbmmines45793 жыл бұрын
This was a really excellent video. It's made me appreciate this series much more as a Jack Kirby fan.
@gregmcphersonii54772 жыл бұрын
Tom King's story was fantastic. Thanks for the video which serves as a great compendium.
@ttm777773 жыл бұрын
I always forget youre british. every single time. also, what a great video. i read Toms MM earlier this year without even knowing this whole story, and still loved it. and now as if it wasnt already one of my favorite comics, this video that almost made me cry make me like it even more
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@caligulapontifex57593 жыл бұрын
In a just world Kirby's heirs would be billionaires. Not begging for scraps at the table.
@Launchpad053 жыл бұрын
Instead, tabloid hucksters, reality stars, corrupt politicians, criminals, and activist journalists are the 'billionaires'.
@walterobrien80453 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you but in a just world billionaires wouldn’t exist
@caligulapontifex57593 жыл бұрын
@@walterobrien8045 Yeah, because in your world we'll all be equally destitute like my family was in the ex-Soviet Union. Am I right?
@Voltan3 жыл бұрын
@@caligulapontifex5759 you're trying too hard. _stop_
@caligulapontifex57593 жыл бұрын
@@Voltan What does your comment even mean bro?
@JoaqMan3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video about a beautiful story. Keep up the good work, Owen.
@djules013 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! This is such a great tribute to Jack Kirby!
@Bram_Moya3 жыл бұрын
Me at the beginning: 36 mins is a year in KZbin time. Can't see that. Two seconds later: " Wow, this is good stuff. Gotta watch the whole thing."
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Haha I don't usually make videos this long, but I had a lot to say clearly.
@katherinealvarez92163 жыл бұрын
Dang Mr. Kirby, thank you for this. I gotta check this out this series.
@sangera3 жыл бұрын
I loved Tom King's and Mitch Gerads's Mister Miracle, which I read in January. I didn't know anything about how it was a love letter to Kirby; all I knew was that it was an amazing book. This video gave me a much greater insight, and a different perspective on the book. I now love the book even more. Thank you.
@kyledamron22 күн бұрын
I love that footage of Kirby talking about his characters.
@ValentineCorp2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I couldn't put this book down while reading and i didn't even know any of these real world tie ins and missed much of allegory to real life and and even some visual imagery, now i love it even more!!!!
@ValentineCorp2 жыл бұрын
I love all the real life inspirations! I had no idea! its freakin beautiful!
@OwenLikesComics2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@DxrthKrypton Жыл бұрын
Since it came out I’ve seen this video 5 times and this week I finished the TPB, truly a beautiful story
@elijahbowers13 жыл бұрын
Wow this was beautiful. You nailed it. The voice cast that participated in it killed it. Loved it all.
@nobo19823 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work! I personally love the story of kirby creating and outlining the entire original run of “The Demon” between ordering a burger and having it arrive at the table. Oh did i mention he did it out of spite for a DC editorial mandate? Also the story of him ending up getting drunk with a bunch of rowdy bikers whom had been causing him trouble. Ya know what…. I just love everything about jack kirby!
@simonbogusz1043 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video I'm glad how much comic history I learned about Jack Kirby and I hope to read these stories someday to really appreciate it.
@Mephiestopholes2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott! Hey, Drake! Hey, Matt! I love how alot of you guys collaborate for voice over gigs.
@AngusJo3 жыл бұрын
Really fantastic video. Jack Kirby always makes me think of Kamandi. Also a really interesting creation of his. Especially if you like time travel and parallel worlds. Would devenitiv also worth a Viedeo.
@LukeConnelly13 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, thank you for sharing Owen
@robertserrano54043 жыл бұрын
Oberons “this all this it’ll break your heart” like Jack’s feelings on comics
@el_nardi55433 жыл бұрын
This video is heart warming, great job!
@MikaylaJLaird3 жыл бұрын
Owen, you continue to blow me away! Love ya, man.
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@colonelweird2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this is such a good channel. Glad I found it, but I have to resist the temptation to binge all the videos at once.
@Dismix_3 жыл бұрын
Great video! This is one of my favorite comics and now I have a newfound appreciation it.
@OwenLikesComics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stevenoneil57853 жыл бұрын
This video generally Brought a tear to my eye RIP to the king. I found a black and white Mr Miracle new gods 11-18 in the discount paperback bin for 3 dollars a few days before the upload
@23narada3 жыл бұрын
Its time for this character to get a movie he's amazing
@Scato-q9v3 жыл бұрын
This video really wants me to pick up this book, thx!
@JoeEnglandShow3 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget hearing a professor of mine at art school. I think he put it best when he described Mr. Miracle as "the ultimate zen master."
@thomasleblanc9024 Жыл бұрын
This actually got me to read the series so good I loved it
@rollierick22323 жыл бұрын
Easily the best comic I've ever read
@edcampbell96582 жыл бұрын
great job, man! now, let's get into the little "easter-eggs" thrown into that King/Gerad series! that took me some time to understand!!! there's quite a few too!
@owensreviews6253 жыл бұрын
I already get the feeling this probably going to be your best video yet. I can’t wait. Edit: It didn’t disappoint.
@markroff10122 жыл бұрын
If I could like this multiple times I would. Wonderful, thank you
@Reddotzebra5 ай бұрын
I feel his shift from Marvel to DC mirrors what happens to so many other creative superstars once they grow tired of what they feel as unnecessary constraints and quit to start their own company. Often what the actual fans want is what they were able to create despite their constraints, so when they stop making what the fans loved and start making what they themselves want to make, people get confused. And in some cases of course, creatives need constraints, because there's a difference between what's fun to write and what's fun to read. Same thing with music, some music is made for listening to and some music is made for playing.
@FuchesFan4ever3 жыл бұрын
Great video man this is definitely my favorite comic of all time
@chadbennett78732 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to meet Jack Kirby at Comic Con in San Diego in the 1970s. He was a genuinely kind man, generous with his time to speak to his fans and he signed several items for me which I still have and cherish. We all love Stan, but Jack was, at least, as important to the creativity that produced all the heroes who everybody knows and admires today. As a writer, Jack and Stan are huge influences and there should be more videos like these that explore the literature, both visual and conceptual that entertain us today. Few people remember that Jack created Captain America with Joe Simon, not Stan.
@Jorge-cf6xk Жыл бұрын
a very kind and touching review..........you did well..... thank you.
@OwenLikesComics Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@adamsifford6228 Жыл бұрын
Great interest, I never knew of this comic I'm glad you made this video or I wouldn't know of this great story.
@thwipkid3 жыл бұрын
The King of Comics and characters of Kindness.
@NoobmasterFC3 жыл бұрын
Another banger Owen! Your channel is too underrated fr fr man
@DelfinBarralCartoons2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful tribute. ❤️
@laurocoman3 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Legends don't die.
@MissFalcon3 жыл бұрын
Fell asleep while watching this and my dream became an amazing seminar which you presented this video.
@julioquintana103 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Video! Extremely moving! Well done!
@TheBmane3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear you talk about more comics that examine mental health issues, this story really resonated with me. One that comes to mind is moon knight or a to a lesser degree Bruce banner in immortal hulk. All this to say, love the videos 👍
@joshua41163 жыл бұрын
IM NOT CRYING! YOU ARE! LIKE MAN STOP CRYING! 😭
@1912papa2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work! Thanks
@chriscampanozzi65163 жыл бұрын
Wow. Fantastic information. Thank you.
@crashedfilms57202 жыл бұрын
He’s no longer a king. He is now and forever a legend.
@Antface263 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video😎💪🏾..this made my Day & I appreciate Jack Kirby so much! He co created my favorite Avenger of all time Steve Rogers Captain America😎
@JoeLovesComics2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video, absolutely fascinating!
@OwenLikesComics2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@gabbar51ngh3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful made video. Only thing I might dislike is how DC shafts Orion.
@k1gamer5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your insight into how this comic mixes in a deep love for Jack Kirby. A Fact I missed on my first reading and has now deeply enriched my second. But i'm curious why you said it seems as if they might give over Jacob when in the comic its spoken from the scene before that the plan is always to surprise darkseid and attempt to kill him? It seemed to me to be a key point in Mister Miracle not attempting an escape but choosing to stay. Especially with a weapon that couldn't have been forged with out the couples past traumas. But agian, a truly incredible video.
@steveqhanson68353 жыл бұрын
Excellent essay. Thanks for this.
@TrimBest2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video on the best ever comic book artist