Mistress Of The Winter Constellation 😂 - Star Trek Lower Decks 4x09

[@rafaelsantos-nl9jd]

" I am not joining anything, but we will cease agression for now" classic Romulan diplomacy

[@lexdavies3656]

And they’ll say it was them that came up with the idea 😂

[@Klaaism]

Romulans constantly lurking the border cloaked was a riot.

[@mho...]

@@Klaaism gotta stay vigilant, you never know when someone might cross the line 🖖

[@jeremy1860]

I always appreciate a good reminder that Tendi is a stone-cold badass feared by all of her people 😊

[@herbertadams8433]

I mean, she single-handedly took over a starship armed with a knife and a stolen gold tooth. I am not sure you can out-pirate that.

[@Fayanora]

Really, who else among the Orions BUT a stone-cold badass feared by her people could have the guts to leave their system and join Starfleet?

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

She is a trained assassin after all. Assuming I have this right she was basically the 'fixer' for her very very senior house in Orion society.

[@Brasswatchman]

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 I think the word "troubleshooter" might be more suitable for her exact line of business. As in see trouble, shoot trouble.

[@Raguleader]

​@@herbertadams8433 Small nitpick: She was only armed with the knife at first. She had to steal the tooth along the way.

[@leyrua]

If somebody got transported right after giving a stirring speech, my first assumption would be "Oh crap whoever did this is WATCHING us, and got rid of the person who was spoiling their fun."

[@singletona082]

Pretty much yea. 'Alright they obviously don't want us to do what they were suggesting so... how about we do it anyway. Y'know. Out of spite.' 'I like spite.'

[@DLuniz]

@@singletona082 What is this "spite"? Its revenge, but less direct and obvious. *happy romulan noises*

[@singletona082]

@@DLuniz*fistbump*

[@prinklerasputen3027]

i'm sure this has happened before in star trek

[@grailchaser]

@@prinklerasputen3027 Yep. Its the one with the Klingons and the Original Crew fighting it out on the Enterprise. "Day of the Dove". One of my favourites!

[@leyrua]

"how else are you going to get revenge on whoever did this?" Know thy audience. 😂

[@HanithSVK]

Blood is a universal currency.

[@bishop51807]

Starfleet diplomacy

[@danielstickney2400]

I love Boimler's "What? but I wanna be liked by everyone!" expression when Mariner says "We don't have to like each other."

[@oliverwillcox2189]

Tendí also has to be liked by everyone

[@IronDino]

@@oliverwillcox2189 Tendi, "They like me! They really like me!" Boimler, "Tendi, I hate to break it to you, but I think they fear you." Tendi, "What!?" Boimler, panicked, "ButifitsanyconsolationIfearthem(andyoualittletoo)somaybewecancalliteven?"

[@Brasswatchman]

​@@oliverwillcox2189 Good point. Maybe it's just everyone in Starfleet she really wants to like her? Or people she's going to spend extended periods of time around?

[@Raguleader]

@@oliverwillcox2189 You just know Mirror!Tendi is the same way but like, high-key terrifying about it.

[@CS-bu7lo]

​@@Raguleader I would LOVE to see an episode or two with Dark Mirror Universe Tendi, Mariner, Boimler, Rutheford, etc. A! And an episode on The Alhambra, that Crew that is like the Cerritos, but with a twist, Dr.T'Ana mistakenly went there once. During the Pandronian rigged drills, Mariner faced a Dark Mirror Universe scenario, that Dark Boimler was bad, but Dark Rutheford and Dark Billups and Dark Meegleemo were truly frightening ! I would be very, very afraid of Dark Ransom and Dark Carol Freeman...

[@SK-qo4qs]

I love how they actually gave Tendi a back story as to why and how she could take out Romulans back when she was recruited to be the Cleaner. Instead of a joke that she could beat others up without making it a one note joke.

[@glitterboy2098]

i personally like to think that "the cleaner" they were waiting for? was actually the codename used for Tendi's sister D'Erika in the op. they were expecting an Orion, and the two look just enough alike that the special ops guys didn't notice.

[@yseson_]

"We will cease agression for now" Romulan for "Im all in"

[@mho...]

Rule of Acquisition 76: *"Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies."*

[@sonicguyver7445]

Cool to see Mariner actually being able to step up and be a diplomat.

[@redsands1001]

Mariner hates some of the dumb rules but believes in the mission. That was also a fun bit

[@thundercat2000ca]

Also remember She can do the job.... she just rather not do it well.

[@imofage3947]

Despite her status as THE most demerited officer in all of Starfleet, Beckett Mariner is actually extremely smart and talented. Her friends at the academy had her pegged to be the first among their class to make captain. Based on a flashback, she was at the academy in 2370 and Lower Decks S1 is set in 2380. She has something like 6+ years of experience (assuming a 4 years at the Academy and her being 1st year in the flashback). Tendi, Boimler, and Rutherford are all on their first assignment.

[@dianaivanova4082]

This is dealing with trauma

[@legionaireb]

Look at Mariner, going all-out on that Federation recruitment speech.

[@CS-bu7lo]

Her parents and Ransom would be so proud of her ! 😁

[@mho...]

she IS Starfleet royalty afterall!

[@Wraithfighter]

Orion: "I refuse to bend the knee to Starfleet, you're worse than the Romulans!" Romulan, sounding genuinely offended: "Hey..." Just a lovely little bit there :D

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

Lower Decks has reminded us all that Romulans are hilarious

[@mithiwithi]

The Romulan's professional pride was offended. Can't have those bleeding-heart Starfleet do-gooders be seen as worse than US!

[@CristianMonserrate-wo2rk]

I mean, she's not wrong

[@Foxmagik]

Ya know, throughout the series Mariner has modeled herself after Captain Kirk. She has long proven she can match up to his image as a badass space adventurer, but here she captured who Kirk really was, a diplomatic hero.

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

She calls herself a kirk type in a episode. Can’t remember what one but she said I’m Kirk like to her mom and her mom said your not like kirk, kirk was confident.

[@supersonicheroes]

@@Baelor-BreakspearThat was the Season 2 finale.

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

@@Baelor-Breakspear She's DEFINITELY earned that self-label here.

[@justAguyDs]

​@@Baelor-Breakspear Love the undertones of Her response. She believes that Mariner has all of the qualities that made Kirk great but she's still not confident yet.

[@FrankBlissett]

Love how they turned all the scheming crews, which had seemed to be cheap stereotypes, into an actual plot point.

[@Darlf_Sevil]

I love klingons who use brain to be danger and do good stuff at the same time

[@WardNightstone]

"To a warrior, a sharp mind can cut cleaner than a batleth," sounds like something Khaless might have said

[@Brasswatchman]

Yeah, I like Ma'ah. Command suits him, I think.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Calling it right now: Ma'ah is a HUGE fan of Worf.

[@SaffronicSaffron]

The ferengi captain knew a good deal when he see one. honestly romulance and orion Captains, get off your high horses and get in the game. 😂

[@Brasswatchman]

Eh, there's a certain amount of cultural posturing going on here that's just par for the course. At least the Romulans will listen to reason, and the Orions are definitely too afraid of Tendi to try anything.

[@SaffronicSaffron]

@@Brasswatchman yeah.

[@bishop51807]

​@@Brasswatchman yeah and the Ferengis don't care about fighting, they just want to get payback and then paid😂

[@MatthewWhite-r3k]

1:10 Mariner isn't just talking to the aliens she's trapped with. She's talking to the show's real-life human audience on Earth directly. Listen very carefully to what she's saying. Roddenberry would approve.

[@TheLichruler]

Something I really like is how Ma'ah is considered a smaller, weaker klingon compared to his brethren on the ship he captains, but compared to everyone else, he's a monster.

[@CS-bu7lo]

Ma'ah got to be captain because he is the best combination of wise, strong, lucky and honorable on that ship. His physically stronger brethren were not wise, lucky or honorable enough. Ma'ah was wise enough to know when to obey his superiors, honorable enough to know when to refuse orders, strong enough to hold his own in a fight but also lucky to win the fight with his former captain, because the targ chose to help him. That ship's first officer was killed by the former captain because, although he was strong and honorable, he wasn't wise and lucky enough to win the fight. Ma'ah's "friends", Klingon Mariner, Rutheford and Tendi all betrayed him ( or at least two of them) because of envy for his advancement. They also laughed of Vulcan logic, which was very unwise and short sighted. I guess Klingon Mariner deserved to be punished by the first officer to scrape the barrels of ga'ah, while Human Mariner was punished by Human Ransom to clean the holo deck filters and Vulcan Mariner T'Lyn was punished with extra meditation when she wouldn't keep still. 😁 Ironically, the Human and Vulcan Mariners proved to be more honorable than the Klingon Mariner...

[@PeterKennedy-b1h]

​​​@@CS-bu7loNah he is not Klingon Mariner. He is Boimler

[@craxnor]

I absolutely love that the biggest and most adorable dork is also the premier badass recognized by an entire species.

[@jwiese100]

Love it when tendi lets the mistresses out

[@singletona082]

At the same time I appreciate when she stows it in favor of being our loveable geeky science girl.

[@mitch9392]

I love when they say Mistress of the Winter Constellations 😂 Reminds me of the crossover episode

[@margotrosendorn6371]

"You're worse than the Romulans!" Romulan: "Hey...!" 😞

[@harvey2906]

And so a small federation came into being on this planet. Binaries, Klingons, Orions, Cardassians, Romulans. They all forgot their differences for a higher goal. To finally leave this planet. It's a beautiful scene. 🖖

[@sethcourtemanche5738]

I was surprised to see a random pair of cardassians there

[@harvey2906]

@@sethcourtemanche5738 Why? Cardassians are always relevant. Or not?

[@SignoftheMagi]

​​@@harvey2906kinda? Post Dominion War, Cardassia is hardly anything. Their home world was ruined, they lost all their colonies, their fleet was dusted and they are surviving via Starfleet charity. Think post-WWII Germany.

[@harvey2906]

@@SignoftheMagi I thought they had slowly recovered after that. Thanks to the help of the Federation and its neighbors, the Bajorans. Eventually, in the middle of the final battle, they switched sides and made sure that this war finally ended. Or did I misunderstand? In the novels, Garak returns to his homeland to rebuild it. 🖖

[@Raguleader]

What's interesting, is that we know all of those races are part of the Federation in the future thanks to the later seasons of Discovery showing what they're up to in the 32nd Century. Well, the Klingons haven't turned up yet in that setting but everyone else has.

[@Aethgeir]

It's nice to see the Binar making a come back, they were one of the few interesting ideas that came out of the first season of TNG.

[@HellecticMojo]

1:28 power courses through you. AUTHORITY

[@LionsMayday]

Romulans being emotional when they are under stress..

[@MisterMarin]

1:42 To paraphrase Forrest Gump: Starfleet is as Starfleet does. 🙂

[@Renkencen]

I know Tendi doesn't liked her royal status but it is useful at times! Like her apperance alone is recognisable for most Orions out there. The only exception is the one in Deep Space Nine but only cos he's not borned on Orion!

[@Raguleader]

Tendi rebelling against her place in Orion culture by joining Starfleet as a lowly ensign has some parallels to Mariner rejecting her role as a leader, and Boimler rejecting his presumed destiny to take over the vinyard in Modesto. Even Rutherford was quite the hellraiser, from what we've seen of his backstory. And the less said about T'Lyn the Emotional Hand Grenade the better. Pretty much all of the core Lower Deckers are rebelling from what they were meant to be in their backstories for their own reasons.

[@WardNightstone]

Marina proving when she actually put fourth the effort she makes a great officer

[@antonbrakhage490]

A detail I love here is that Mariner apparently understands Binar- back in season two, she said that she had dated Binars.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

TIL Mariner understands Bynar.

[@joseaguilar3323]

She used to date one (or two of them?)

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

​@@joseaguilar3323I'm guessing 2, based on what we know about the species.

[@Brasswatchman]

And they were Bad Bynars.

[@chaskedvega]

It's scenes like this why Tendi is my favourite character. Her and friggin' Dr. T'Ana.

[@mammon8683]

You go, Tendi!

[@christopherrosas2738]

Plot twist, that Klingon thinks Mariner is Glorious and he must have her..... new ship for Mariner

[@gedias1]

No one mentioned that the station looks like the one from Return of the Jedi?

[@eshel9886]

Yep. Tendi is mariners best friend 😊

[@gallowglass3764]

Damn I love that Klingon

[@catcameron2495]

Everybody wants something: The Key to Diplomacy,

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

The -international- interplanetary poker game where everyone is cheating.

[@Anansi1701]

​@@MMuraseofSandvichdo you by chance watch a certain Beau?

[@Cross177]

Damn, leave it to Tendi to be MVP support for Mariner

[@BDTXIII]

That is why she is my favourite girl from the series. I fell for her for the first sight.🥰

[@legionaireb]

Mariner or Tendi?

[@BDTXIII]

@@legionaireb Mariner Beckett. My crush for the lead female character.

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

@@BDTXIII I definitely share in that. Mariner's a hot, badass young lady, and she's really become VERY inspiring over the years. That speech was awesome, and in the following episode she tried to save Locarno even though he JUST tried to KILL her, amongst everything else he was doing. She really is amazing.

[@penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022]

I loved it when people who pull rank to bullies

[@DocOverlord]

This is what I love about Lower Decks. Sure they point out the silly goofiness that can fill Star Trek but they do that while remaining true to the show's values and what makes it special.

[@Evil0tto]

Mariner gave a good captain speech. Whether she wants to admit it or not she's got the stuff for command.

[@GeoStreber]

I think it's that one alien species from TNG that doesn't know how hierarchy works. You know, the ones that kidnapped Picard.

[@allnamesaretakenful]

Tendi and Mariner are an unstoppable team

[@randomrazr]

this is like predator or hunger games

[@sobyroalvertron9441]

I was positive they were going to put the cookie cut beesion of stafleet speech "Even to we come from different planets, we are only, slightly different.." Kinda disappointed there, but dem, girl was specking from the heart and stomac.

[@CS-bu7lo]

Lol, true ! Wasn't that speech written by Ransom? He used it successfully with the Volcano Gym people but it didn't work on the Crystal people, although Vindor liked to read ! 😂

[@MatthewJamesKalasky]

Such a wonderful speech.

[@carlzerris6566]

Mariner can fight pretty much anything that come her way, Boilmler can solo a borg cube, Tendi can Science her way out of anything and can kick ass and anything she cant science her way out of Rutherford can Engineer a solution. And now the also have Tlyn. Tgey may be lower deckers right now but woe betide anyone the face uf they became a full bridge crew.

[@Sophias_booktube]

I love tendi I don’t understand why she’s so embarrassed about being such a bad ass or a pirate she’s so cool and she could put her pirate skills to the test to be the hero of the crew she’d make a great captain some day.

[@Brasswatchman]

Yeah, I don't get that either. The only thing I can think of is that maybe she had to hurt or kill a lot of people as Mistress of the Winter Constellations, and she doesn't want her friends finding out about it.

[@joda7697]

I feel like you have missed the entire point. It doesn't matter if YOU think she's cool as a pirate, or that she's good at it. SHE doesn't like it. These expectations from everyone around her (be it her family and loose coworkers in universe or fans like you out of univers) are what's been hurting her. SHE wants to be a scientist, a doctor, a starfleet captain. Exploring, learning, making peaceful relations.

[@Brasswatchman]

@@joda7697 Sure, I get that. What puzzles me is why she thinks her past makes her less suitable to be that person as opposed to making her an even better potential commander. A science captain is great; a science captain who can fall back on her _elite actual professional assassin skills_ in a pinch is even better. Basically, "former badass assassin lady" sounds like a hell of a resume item to me no matter what she's hoping to do with her life. So it's weird to me that she seems actually afraid of using it.

[@andmos1001]

Tendi doesn’t want to be seen as a bad ass pirate. She wants to be the quirky, lovable scientist.

[@Renkencen]

@@Brasswatchman Cos once she start using it then everyone will recognise her ONLY as the science captain that so happened to be a badass assassin than thus it will ruin her reputation as a fun science girl she work so hard to build up as. Obviously her close friends won't see her as than but everyone else will.

[@redrasegarden]

Sometimes. Ya just gotta know people.

[@targetseeker]

Vendorians did it

[@sonicguyver7445]

I thought it would be the aliens from "Allegiance."

[@targetseeker]

@@sonicguyver7445 joke aside, they might be the ones providing the real mastermind with the resources to do his plan. He gets his...whatever he's planning and they get to do their morality test

[@ADayintheLifeoftheTw]

United by hate. Truly a beautiful thing. 😅

[@zam6877]

Is it a happy joy-joy plan with lots of candy? I just love those plans

[@utoob7361]

the best Trek since ds9

[@RagnarKorg3141]

Cardassians it's been so long

[@liquidmark5081]

>Tendi will never be mad at you and command you to stand down or else Life is suffering

[@raymondcanessa7208]

lower decks needs to have a "mirror episode" showing just how bad Tendi can be..

[@spencerkoelle184]

If you're interested I know a fanfic somebody wrote where Tendi meets Mirror Tendi

[@raymondcanessa7208]

@@spencerkoelle184 thanks

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

Also, why did they take Mariner in the end? Also why was Locarno on the ship beforehand? Next is why is the mysterious ship going around not killing but taking and abandoning them on that world? So what is their motivation?

[@GladiusTR]

Minor nitpick, but there's no way an Orion could one hand manhandle a ferengi. They're physically strong enough to break gold to dust and even (through a lucky shot) tripped up DATA of all people.

[@danieljames1868]

Ferengi aren't that strong. The gold crushed to bits was gold pressed latinum that had the latinum removed, it was likely either hollow or akin to swiss cheese, and gold isn't exactly a sturdy material.

[@GladiusTR]

@@danieljames1868 Debatable, but I'll accept that. They DID trip up Data though.

[@Overlord24]

1:27 well once again Tendi to the rescue using her position. You cannot forsake your culture and then use it no?? I love Tendi but her being freaked out abut her culture is a shame. It's like a vulcan being ashamed of beng logical and cool under pressure. A klngnon not caring about Honor. A ferengii forsaking profit. DS9 episode she rocked and she comes from a culture full of queen bees. Take that male dominated worlds.

[@Vipre-]

Being seen as logical and cool under pressure is a positive aspect. Being seen as honorable is likewise positive. Being seen as profit driven less so but passable. Being seen as a race of thieving pirates and slavers is not a positive thing no matter how "awesome" it might be to some outsiders. She doesn't want people thinking that's all she and her people are capable of being so she downplays the negative images and upsells the positives unless playing into the negative provides a crucial benefit in the moment.

[@jamieolberding7731]

Crazy Scenes 3.72K subscribers Good thing the Orions are now on Humanity's side thanks to D'Vana Tendi and her family house becoming friends and allies to the crew of the USS Cerittos.

[@blacksage2375]

Alpha Quadrant politics in a nutshell right here folks.

[@doxielain2231]

What was his plan, btw? Because we never see him again

[@supersonicheroes]

His plan was to lure in his old ship with the distress signal, then he and everyone else board it and he take back his position as captain.

[@PrincessDreamie]

I am not huge in star was or star track but i guess this is the only media i allow me to watch. The previous shows weren't for me but this cartoon is fun

[@Robert-hz9bj]

Why is Tendi still getting so much mileage out of that? Didn't she give up her position to her sister?

[@bthsr7113]

Well she had the title before, possibly for longer, and I think these Orions were stranded before they had any chance to hear about the transfer of power.

[@mho...]

think of it like this: their entire society is based on gangster families & one of the daughters of the top 5 families is "out there" doing her thing.... who from that world would dare to really go against her?! whatever Tendis personal motives are for being off world.

[@James-hs3tu]

1:28

[@RagnarKorg3141]

"Mistress Of The Winter Constellation" That doesn't impress me at all

[@saintsinningsword]

Speech was so cheesy I was expecting a joke over it and group to just agree on a ceasefire & truce alliance deal and maybe a 'cool' name for the alliance.

[@samsignorelli]

Cheesy, yes.....but Mariner FINALLY took that first big step from what's been eating at her.

[@cristsan4171]

Where's the laser pointer stick thing -USAmerica

[@sophieadams4155]

Is this star trek animation from tumblr?

[@Ty-ie2mi]

From Parnount Plus

[@sophieadams4155]

It looks so gay I might have to get paramount+@@Ty-ie2mi

[@treewizard2502]

Topical

[@CelticVictory]

Beckett isn't honorable.

[@supersonicheroes]

You’re either a troll or don’t pay attention.

[@CelticVictory]

@@supersonicheroes Neither.

[@supersonicheroes]

@@CelticVictory You’re a liar. Got it.

[@dymorius2622]

This is literal slop

[@JB-yb4wn]

Write a better episode, or just crawl off back to your mom's basement.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

And yet, here you are.

[@SmartSmears]

When I see comments like this I have to assume you just don't like Star Trek

[@samsignorelli]

Don't watch it, then.

[@supersonicheroes]

Like you could do any better whiner.

[@guillermoelnino]

reggiN ytriD

[@SmartSmears]

Not only racist but cowardly to boot, embarrassing

[@James-hs3tu]

1:26