MITAS Touring Force Review | The BEST Sports Touring Tyre for your MONEY?!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

What do you do? Trade some grip for longevity or all out grip regardless of how long they last? These days I think most large companies don't really make bad tyres! So far every tyre I've been on from Mitas has been really good! Including the ones on test rides :) I'm looking forward to testing the sports tyres :)

[@HippoDrones]

road performance in wet and dry is more important to me than trackday performance or longevity. Generally I've found my pace on track is no issue on road tyres, so it worked for me on some of my bikes. Now I have multiple bikes however, I'll be aiming to have super sticky tyres on the Gixer, good road wet/dry performance on the V85, mud grip over tarmac grip on the Beta, and dry grip on the V7

[@TheGorillaBiker]

@@HippoDrones Especially in our locale of the world we need that all rounder tyre eh :D I did find limits on even very sticky road tyres on the track, but that's more a I can't move my broken body enough to get a knee out than the tyres fault :P Hence why I got some track tyres :) That's it really too, once you have a few and they have their more select uses you may as well get the best type for their uses! Did you manage to record any of that track day actually :D

[@HippoDrones]

@@TheGorillaBiker I managed to salvage a single lap from my first session. I have some 360 footage which I might do an actual 360 video with at a later date, but it will be a filler rather than a video I'll enjoy posting as it also caused me issues by switching off half way around. I've no idea why neither camera would record a full session, they both had formatted memory cards and full batteries. It is what it is though :-)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I'll take that :P Ah fair enough, that's some pain man not one but both cameras acting up! When it rains it pours eh! That's it, once you enjoyed the day that's all that really matters anyway :)

[@HippoDrones]

@@TheGorillaBiker yup... and to be honest, I was riding like I'd not ridden before anyways! :D so less video evidence the better lol :D

[@alexugur]

Glad to find an Irish review on a tyre that I'm interested in for my 2008 650DL V-Strom. Irish roads are brutal in regards to tyre longevity. This is because we don't have any gravel pits here with nice round washed grit. All road grit here is produced from crushed rock. The grit is sharp and it cuts tyres down twice as fast as UK or Continental roads do. Add to that, rural roads in the West can be in an appalling state of disrepair. I'm just about to have Mitas M50s mounted on my newish Royal Enfield Hunter 350, as a French review indicated that they're a good sporty road tyre with good feedback suitable for small bikes (usually bias ply). Having decided on those, I realised that the tyres on my V-Strom are getting old. They still have a lot of tread life in them, but I fancy a change to something more road focussed (as opposed to the Anakees type 2 & 3) and the Touring Force happen to be what I've set my eyes on.

[@crimpyjugs5680]

Michelin Road 5's work well on the CBF, when i bought mine it had a set of Pirelli Angel GT's which felt a little isolated (if that makes sense), just not enough feedback, i changed these for Michelin Pilot Road 4's which gave better feedback, but the handling felt a little slow, harder to turn in at a bend, so when i read that the Michelin Road 5's had a slightly sportier cross sectional shape (i.e. not quite as flat as the 4's) i though id give them a try. They are great, easy to turn in, very predictable handling, great feedback, seem to warm up quickly, wet and dry grip never been an issue. I don't tend to brake hard in the wet as a general rule, but hard braking in the dry has also always been very predictable, even when a VW Passat tried to wipe we out the other day (travelling in the opposite direction to me on an A road, he suddenly decided to turn right, literally right in front of me, no indication, nothing, clearly hadn't seen me, or my headlights!), managed to get around the back of the car as he turned, but only after about a second of very heavy braking, Road 5's get my thumbs up!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I haven't tried them on the CBF, I might in the future it depends on price and availability :) I do like them but I personally preferred the Metzeler Roadtec 01s over them, I'd have those tyres again in a heartbeat. I haven't heard many bad things said about the 5s, oddly enough one or two people were VERY against them before in messages and how terrible they are in the rain. Which I found very hard to believe from the other 98% of people I've talked to about them. Same as myself, I tend to avoid hard braking on the road all the time but I've been forced in to it on these tyres in both the wet and dry and they performed excellently :) Ah that's very nice of them, they just wanted to see how the bike looked from up very close......glad you dodged that one!!

[@Zen-Mit-Chips]

Thanks for the real world and informative review. I am about to put a set on, fingers crossed. I am a mid rider (sport tourer), but bike is 250kg and I live in Cyprus. Most of the main brand tyres last maybe 4000 km, before they are shot (heat). The best tyres I have yet found for my bike were the Shinko verge, really good, long lasting (around 8000km in our heat) and best feedback (on my bike) I have had, but sadly I can't get them anymore. If I was being a tyre snob, it would be bridgestone's.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Not at all, thanks for watching! I mean as a use case you should see at least 4000km out of them even on a bike that heavy, the CBF wasn't much lighter and I weigh a lot so that didn't help. Obviously outside temps will be much different so it'd be interesting to see how long they last you! When I'm feeling snobby I'm partial to Metzeler or dunlop myself :)

[@markpearce5793]

Another enjoyable vid :) Before this I'd never heard of the Mitas brand. I checked out my London tyre shop (FWR in Kennington) and they don't seem to stock them and they are bike tyre specialists. Anyway, like you say, they seem like a good buy if you ride a bit more gently. Definitely suit someone who's on a tighter budget. As you know, recently I've been on Bridgestone BTs for the last three sets. I prefer their profile for the road and they've done well especially in some absolute downpours when the roads have been so awash with rain, tyre tracks have disappeared immediately. Mileage isn't that great of course; 3 to 3.5k only. It's funny to think, when I started riding, if your bike was fitted with Japanese tyres you changed them straight away for a set of Dunlops or maybe Avons. I rode Dunlops for years, but I don't think they're even British now are they? I had a very good experience with Metzler Tourance tyres on my Triumph Tiger. Great grip and tyre life and I had that bike for four years and 20k miles. On my scooters I like to use Michelin Citygrips. Real confidence boosters in both wet and dry and of course lots of mileage due to the low power and weight. Always interesting to hear others experiences, bearing in mind there are so many variables in the tyre choice equation. Cheers

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks :) I had only heard of them for offroad stuff, Pat the Parts guy in Freeman offered them to me when Dunlops weren't in stock and honestly I'm glad I tried them out :) I'm surprised they haven't heard of them they seem to be an old company! Oh I'm very aggressive in the dry on them just in the wet with the harder carcass and stuff I wouldn't chance it, on anything really! Definitely helped my pocket at the time!! I was very glad of them :) To be honest for that type of customer satisfaction I'd be very happy with 3-3.5k, if I ever get past 7000km I'm over the moon with a tyre. I'm perfectly happy going through tyres once they do their job! To be honest the benchmark was always Michelin to me for as long as I can remember, I've never even seen an Avon on a shelf here but I would try them! I don't actually know about the home location of Dunlop these days tbh! Maybe I should start an Irish tyre company :D Yeah currently if anyone was to ask me my favourite tyre of recent times it'd be the Metzeler Roadtec 01 tbh. If I wasn't so impatient and whatnot I'd have them on the CBF tomorrow. I haven't ridden a scooter in years! I'll have to give another one a shot someday :D There is no one tyre for any person really, it's so dependent on riding style, road conditions etc etc!

[@Banditmanuk]

I use sport touring tyres on the MT10. Had Pirelli Angel GTs and Road 5s. Honest preference is the Road 5, great in wet or dry. Was recently forced to change by a puncture on our Scotland tour and no Road 5's in stock so gone with the new Bridgestone T32, feel good so far.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Do you find the 10 eats the rear tyre actually? I really will have to throw on road 5s at some point, 98% of people seem to rate them very very highly, and if you're bike is good on them then any bike is :D That thing is a monster :) I've heard good things about them too, be interesting to see how they fare out for you in the long run :)

[@Banditmanuk]

@@TheGorillaBiker I did a vid a while back on the Road 5s. I think they are my all time favourite tyre. To give a comparison I had Bridgestone S22s on, great grip but the rear was out at 2500 miles. Got twice the distance on the front. Changed to the 5's and the grip in the dry was still great but the wet grip was fantastic. Got 6,000 miles out the rear on the MT10 but the front was also about shot so replaced the pair. Honestly think they are the benchmark what all other tyres are judged against in the sport touring category

[@TheGorillaBiker]

When I went to look it turns out my notifications had been turned off for your channel, which is intensely annoying! Yeah the S22s on the GSXR did fairly walk off the bike, but I'm ok with that for that bike tbh! I'd consider Road 5s for it now tho seeing as they work that well on the MT10! I think I'll just have to get them on one of the bikes and abuse them at this point so so many people I have a lot of respect for seem to adore them :D

[@sebastianharreus8859]

@@TheGorillaBikerInterestingly enough I swung meself through the 2023 tyre comparison of mopedreifen.de. They‘re like THE tyre institution for the German motorcycle scene. When he was giving his remarks on the Michelins he said he just does not understand the Road 6 as its profile got even more negative than the predecessor - making it hard keeping a tight clean line when compared to the Conti Road Attack or the Dunlop. But when he said „The Road6 seems like a tyre ye would only want when yer livin in Le Mans where tis always lashin down … or when yer one a dem fellas sitting by the window waiting for rain to go out riding d‘auld cycle“ I couldn’t help thinking this could be the best motorcycle tyre ever made for riding in Ireland. How did Pat put it again? She‘d be a lovely little country if ye could only roof it! 🤣 Maybe ye should give the Road6 a bit of a go along the bumpy back roads of Wesht Cork.

[@JayShermanFJC]

For the motorcycle it's Michelin Commanders on the RK and the KLR it will be Michelin as well after I get through the OEM tires.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Michelin are a brilliant brand without a doubt, I don't know exactly what it was I preferred about the Metzelers over the Michelins that time....just feel I suppose :) Does the RK eat tyres actually?

[@JayShermanFJC]

@@TheGorillaBiker I've been told I'll bet lucky to get 2500 miles from there KLR OEM tires, gravel just tears them up. I'm about half way there. I'll let you know at what point the get replaced.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

OEM tyres do always tend to be a bit....meh. it'll be interesting to see how long they last!

[@TheSpainy]

Just put these on my s1000xr here in southern spain. Went for a fast and hard twisties ride and the traction control didn´t even come on once, so grip was very good IMO

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Interesting! I ended up using the sport force a lot more as I just preferred how it worked :)

[@TheSpainy]

@@TheGorillaBiker not tried them Yet but wanted some better mileage

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

My sport tourer was equipped with the stock Dunlop sportmax tires. They took a while to warm up in cooler weather and still didn’t offer good grip. I switched to Michelin Road5 and it’s night and day. Awesome grip all the time.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Where they sportmax roadsports do you remember? I liked mine I just found they wore super quick :) Yeah I've heard from so so many people that they're an amazing tyre!! I might have to eventually get a set for the CBF :D

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

@@TheGorillaBiker they were sportmax D222

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Iiiinteresting..I've never heard of them even!

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

@@TheGorillaBiker looks like they renamed the tire to roadsmart II and now have different compounds compared to the original 2015 models.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ahhhh I had roadsmarts before, I wasn't hugely fond of them for the reasons you gave. Older ones, might have been the same. The roadsports are very good tho :)

[@RoadsOfOz]

I generally stick with Pirelli. Currently running the Anget GT's on the Griso. But prior to that had the Anget ST's and were really impressed with them (that and they were much cheaper than the GT's). For my trail bike and Honda CB125E. I generally use what is the best value. probably should do a tyre review for the tyres on the CB125E.

[@sickmick8846]

I had Angel ST's on my FZ1. They were great in all conditions but I changed to the GT rear for more longevity.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I have to admit I've never used Pirelli, except for my rain tyres on the track(and they were amazing even at 8 years old) but not really comparable to road tyres. I'll have to give the Angels a go at some point in some form so I can see what they're like :) You should definitely do a review! Real world use reviews are needed for tyres as I don't see many out there, which is also why I started doing them :)

[@h0ij0i]

I've riden now every street tire from Mitas (Sportforce+, SF+ EV & Touringforce) on my MT-09. Im by far most impressed with the new EV. The internal damping got WAY better than the stiff carcass of the normal SF+. The EV is maybe just a little less flickable than the old SF+ but the grip, stability & confidence in maximum lean angles are insane. I also rode the Touringforce but wasnt really that impressed, strangely the Touringforce needed way longer to heat up than both of the sport versions, ive also gotten a pretty big slide in the wet with the TF. If the tires got temperature they were good and for sporttouring tires very agil. I think its comperable with the Pirelli AngelGT(1). The general problem i have with sporttouring tires (luckily this was by far not as bad than compared to other sporttouring tires) is, that they lose a LOT of their capabilities at the end of their lifetime. They get wobbly when in deeper lean angles but strangely feel not very agil at the first turning input, also they kind of lose their amount of grip. I got ~5600km with the Touringforce and ~3900km with the Sportforce+ and EV. Ill definitely stick with the sport versions. :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I'm working my way through them :) The SF+ EV are going on my GSXR next so really happy to hear you liked them, I look forward to giving them a good test :) The SF+ were already really really good so pretty happy to hear they're an improvement :) And with them on the GSXR I'll get an even better sense of them I think :) I didn't mind the Touring Force, I thought they were a good tyre, good grip, good in rain etc but I wouldn't pick them over the SF+ again, they did heat up a good bit slower and had a lot less feel! I never got a slide myself but the CBF is absolutely rock solid on the road in fairness to it. Agreed on that to be honest, like I said on the Touring forces review I did they kind of fell off a cliff a bit towards the end and scalloped too, so for me I'd much rather use the SF. Ah very good, I got more out of the TF but less out of the SF :) You're dead right :) Thanks for the comment!

[@TheVelasquez87]

Nice to know as I have a EV already ordered to my MT09 Tracer ;) Cheers

[@2Petya]

How do the SF and TF compared when cold? I ride often in a cold weather, would go on a tracer 7 and I am not an agressive rider. I am afraid I wouldnt heat them up often, but I still like to lean deep on the twisties :) therefore considering even the SF

[@timyeung25yahoo67]

What do you recommend of thise 2 tire Mitas tire or battlax s22?? I am thingking if what will i buy to these 2 tire

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Honestly I try not to recommend anything, I've done reviews on both tyres from my perspective so it's whatever suits your budget and use case the best :)

[@drago9762]

Help me out a bit please...kinda choosing between Mitas touring force, Sport force and diablo rosso 3.... mainly to rip around canyons on a z400

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Well I've only used the Touring Force and the sport forces so I can't comment on the Pirellis. I've had 3 sets of the Sport Forces now and really like them.

[@pinkie87]

I drove the Mitas E-07 last year and maybe I switch to the Touring Force with my new bike. I prefer longevity over a bit more grip at 50° or a bit more grip in the wet. On normal streets I drive only at 30-36° and I only reached 40° on an closed Track with great asphalt.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I stuck with the sport force in the end for my CBF, really impressive tyre all round but do wear a fair bit faster. I think the CBF was just hard on tyres anyway tho.

[@diederikdemits8413]

I had mitas e07 on my v-strom and very happy about them

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Glad to hear it :)

[@theponkster]

I do tend to drift towards bridgestone tyres - I tend to splash out on tyres for my fast bike where as the rats usually get whats the best deal at the time . The sidecar rig is problematic for tyres and I have tried lots of combinations including a car tyre on the back at one time (not for me) - the way bike tyres wear on the rig is unusual .

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've used and liked Birdgestone, Metzeler, Dunlop, Mitas and Michelin. I think they all have different traits but all are good :) I'm the same, the faster the bike the stickier and pricier the tyre it gets :) I can imagine! I'd say there is probably....no tyre really designed for that monster :D

[@crumblymal8479]

For me the most important is the best grip in both wet and dry , longevity is not important as I do not commute I am not sure which is the best for my XJR as yet but I do have to investigate . Very interesting topic and their is one hell of a lot of choice out there Cheers : )

[@TheGorillaBiker]

In that case you actually get a much easier decision :D Can just shoot for something super grippy and not worry about how long they last :) Thanks Malcolm! There is so so so much out there these days which is crazy :D

[@geckolegacy2306]

Great video Would be nice to show how the tyre look like as well just for reference

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks. Cameras pick up tyres very poorly so I never put in any of the clips I took.

[@geckolegacy2306]

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[@skonio1]

Chce je założyć na Honde Crosstourer. Jezdzimy razem z dziewczyna obladowani. Polecasz te opony. Na pirelli gt robilem 13000k ale cos mi w nich nie pasuje

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Trudno mi polecić cokolwiek w zestawie, którego nie testowałem. Z mojego doświadczenia wynika, że ​​są to bardzo dobre opony, ale nie sądzę, że na jednym zestawie można przejechać aż tyle kilometrów.

[@ggmobi5817]

Just put EV+ on my gsxr750 after Michelin PP3. Got some mixed emotions, but seems quite ok for now. Warms up faster but turns harder than PP3s.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

They do warm up very fast. Never used the PP3 so couldn't compare. They're not quite as soft as a lot of the more expensive tyres I've used tho, that said they're also 60% of the price so I'll take that :)

[@andrewmcleam7032]

I've got a set of metzeler roadtec 01 se on my bandit 1250n really good wet and dry

[@TheGorillaBiker]

They're a brilliant tyre!

[@mrozman0]

I had rt 01 SE on my GTR 1400, realy good on dry and wet, but tire last only 3500km... Now I put on touring force and from begining i have better feeling on bike - more confident, but i rode them only 1000km in dry, so i need to test them more for better evaluation

[@TheVelasquez87]

After trash out 14.000kms made in rain, dry, everyday riding I found them to be adequate. Measure of mine is 160 but don't know why it's not double compound as on older mitas website it has that information that double compound starts only from 180 up. Anyway, on the rain this tyre is really good, I found a bit vague on dry and on front tyre as it is not as direct as you wanted to go (out of a turn for example), but is comprehensible regarding the price. I also feel that take ages to heat and is stiff, really stiff (carcass) I rate like this: Longevity: 8/10 Dry grip: 5/10 Wet grip: 8/10 Confort: 3/10 Turn: 7/10 (when is on first half life) Behavior at 3/4 of life: 5/10 - It fails to turn in and out more often as it goes more far from the angle that you have to go and you have to compensate on top Price: 9/10 Overall: 6.5/10

[@TheGorillaBiker]

14000kms is a lot!! My rear was also 160 and is listed as multi compound on the website now, possibly a newer model or something, I could also see the compound line as it wore down. I agree on the time to heat up and the feel, as I think I said in the video the feel on the tyres isn't amazing and since using sport forces I prefer them overall, only downside is they don't last nearly as long. I'm interested in a few of your points, 5/10 for dry grip for a GT tyre is very harsh I think, I use my tyres pretty hard and would rate them a lot higher than that in the dry, I never had one slip, 5/10 would be a BAD tyre for me grip wise. I don't understand what you mean by comfort? Do you mean they run hard on your bike? Between these and every other tyre I've used on this bike they're equally as comfortable, including the Dunlops which were 100 euro more for a set! :) Also the behaviour at 3/4 of life span I'd be interested in how far you ran them, as 3/4s of your life span is where I decided mine were about done and changed them, in my opinion if a tyre loses feel and performance it's used up, even if it has some rubber left!

[@TheVelasquez87]

@@TheGorillaBiker No problem. Yes, probably they made an improvement and add double compound to 160-60 17 14k because I only use them for commute and I check pressure every week: 2.5 and 2.7 bar. I have another motorcycle (mt09) and in that one I use Sport Force + (6500kms it lasted) 1- On the dry side I feel that the front is not compose, if you put a lot of speed and energy on a corner tyre will shake a little more than expect (not wobble) and when out or a corner with 30/40º lean angle tyre will go to 0º degree very fast, faster than a more soft tyre or double compound, it's a bit weird. 2- What I mean about comfort is when I compare with previous GT tires I used in the past (road 4,5, angel gt, T31, Roadsmart 3 and specially my favorite GT Roadattack 3 - witch is a single compound) I find the carcass of Touring force really stiff and uncomfortable on bumps or holes for example. I thing this is from a rigid carcass, nothing to do with the rubber. 3- on 3/4 I think this is a properties of a single compound ( as I think I have on the rear because of what I told you on last comment), as tyre wear is not linear and I have a little bit more wear on the left side for example and I feel a bit different when doing a corner from one side to the other, but overall 5/10 I think is a fair value to give. Overall I did not mention but I will repeat this precipice as they are cheap and last long and for commute I don't need performance tyres, I just need them to be fair both dry and wet with cost-running low, I will probably try a front sport force with touring force on rear and let you know how it go ;)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks for the reply I understand what you meant a lot better. I think the multi compound will actually affect your range if you use them again in the future as I got my mileage doing much the same I probably could have checked my pressures more! Ah very nice, I think I might just be harder on tyres then :) I really enjoyed the Sport force +s :) 1 - I think the multi compound may have helped that, I understand what you mean but I never noticed the same, it was still more vague out of corners than the sport forces for sure tho. 2 - Gotcha, and yes the newer ones definitely do run harder as well, very likely due to the carcass like you say! 3 - Ah ok I see, I have pretty even wear as I showed except on the front, which actually was a suspension issue in the end :) Interesting! Very true, and they do that job very well for the price I think, thanks again for the comments :)

[@TheVelasquez87]

@@TheGorillaBiker hey. I received an email from a question I did Mitas some weeks ago and I can confirm to you that double compound only starts on 170 measures and above. 160 is single compound on Touring Force unfortunately

[@tonymead9450]

Had the sport force on my vfr12f and thought they where awesome wet or dry never let go even with spirited riding with sports bike friends would recommend you give them a try

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've nearly gone through a set of them since I released this video and I honestly think they might be the best tyres I've ever used.

[@tonymead9450]

@@TheGorillaBiker totally agree and for the money there is no better shame they don't do them to fit my goldwing

[@TheGorillaBiker]

The gold wing would probably demolish them too in fairness, but I'll be putting them on my gsxr instead of the s22s next too...2/3s of the price too!

[@tonymead9450]

@@TheGorillaBiker your probably right she is a heavy beast just wish they did the tour force to fit her and my next purchase is a zx7rr so she will be getting a set of the sport force when they are due

[@petertakov]

@GorillaBiker Very nice review - thank you! Are these faster or slower to turn than the RT01, for exemple? Or the PR5? Also, the Mitas TF are about the same price as Michelin PR2 (better than PR4, IMO), which I find very good in the dry. Do you happen to have any experience with those and if yest - how do they compare?

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks, I haven't tried either of those tyres on this exact bike, but I did get a sportier feel turn in wise from the Roadtec01. BUT, that was on my last bike which was lighter and a bit more nimble so hard to say. These did everything I would expect on the road though without pushing them too hard. I am currently using the Sport Force + on the CBF and they're a lot sportier, but are wearing much faster.

[@stephencartwright5046]

A good review of a very subjective topic. Metzeler are my weapon of choice, but are all but impossible to get here. The culture is fitting round black rubber things, secondhand if available. Tubed tyres for preference as patching tubes is the culture. Most scooters run tubed on tubeless rims . . . . I need new tyres on the VIAR. I will see what is available. Enjoy your new sportier Mitas's

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks Stephen, it's crazy how polarised people are on tyres and also on the likes of manual vs DCT etc. I am also a big big fan of Metzeler but waiting times for them here are often long, usually when I realise I need new tyres it's like a change them today please job :D Oh that sounds moderately terrifying :D Patching tubes is fine really once it's a light bike that won't be doing huge speed. Otherwise...no. Tubed on tubeless rims? Why? That'd feel wrong! Hopefully you can get something decent :) I will I'm sure :)

[@stephencartwright5046]

@@TheGorillaBiker I am not polarised on DCT I just don't see the point. Auto on scooters like the MIO is fine but more weight, more technology, more expense for what? I can change gear, in fact I have spent these 40 odd years trying to get better and better at it. My pillions do not know when I change, and I would say that when i want to put my race face on I don't drop many revs . . . . I don't want to ride a car.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I didn't think you were! You can express an opinion like this one in a calm manner making good points. Sadly a lot of people can't! Like when I tested DCT again, and enjoyed it, and then said I'd still have manual(because I would for the reasons you listed really) and people tell me I'm wrong and just don't understand it yet, try DCT again :D It's a bit funny to me when that happens :D

[@mrElpacas]

lassa cos they make reasonably priced "ok144 7.50 r16" off road tyres :D bike wise i always got metzelers

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I had to do the googles on them, looks pretty reasonable in fairness and if they don't explode you can't go wrong eh :D Good choice, I am a big fan of Metzelers.

[@mrElpacas]

@@TheGorillaBiker the ok144`s are a nice compound and tubed (which are getting harder to find in a decent speed rating) and a decent ply and sidewall so less likely to damage them from something that might wreck a normal tyre, plus the pattern they use is pure oldschool military style before the michelin xyz came about and took over, they work really well off road, they are fun on road, they do make a bit of road noise and you can break the back end away in rain if you throw it in, but you got to be giving it some welly and its a land rover lol... yeah i like metzelers they have never let me down they do the job as advertised :D

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I'd imagine so, they'll end up like a collectors item almost. I see most older motor stuff going that way, like horses are now, pure and utter hobbyist stuff even for people who want to use them daily! Hopefully you can stay getting them for a long time :D Ah road noise has never overly bothered me, altho I do usually ride a bike so I suppose anything is quieter :P Haha drifting a landy would be a great video :P If they came in a tin I'd have a fine phrase for Metzelers....I don't think it's copyrighted :P

[@mrElpacas]

@@TheGorillaBiker my old swb series 3 landrover drifted like you wouldnt beleive, did go through a lot of halfshafts tho :P shame we didnt have all the tech we do now back then or i would have some epic videos. road noise doesnt bother me either although in a landrover you hear so many noises its just another one in the symphony of driving, gearbox noise, diff noise, transfer box noise, wheel noise, engine grunts and sucks, popping and farting exhuast. only time ive ever noticed road noise on a bike was with big knobbly tyres on a scrambler back in the day, usually everything else the wind noise and sweet engine sounds mask them. i think we will see the same with vehicles that run on fossil fuels, they will go the way of collectors and rich enthusiasts, the normal person will either have to get rid or convert them to electric if they want to use them without costing a arm and a leg to just start them up lol i used to have some old avon traction millage tyres, they were atleast 30 years old, no cracks no damage and looked like new, even the banding inside them wasnt corroded, they definatly dont make them like that anymore, i used to use them as my working set for when i was stripping or restoring, so i didnt leave my then expensive tyres on while it was parked up.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hahaha sacrificing half shafts to the gods of drift every time :D That is s shame I'd love to see it :D That's it really, I think no matter what with fun older vehicles you'll always have A noise, and with bikes like that it's wind after a point!! :) They'll eventually have us all driving insulated little electric boxes of boredom yeah.....it's this self driving craic that has me worried that they'll try ban driving and I'll have to be a bandito! That's crazy!! I wonder what sort of planet ending materials were used in them to last that long! And why can't we still use it :D

[@hachewie]

I think I like Michelin tyres. But I don’t really know.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Why are you watching such an old video ya sausage

[@hachewie]

@@TheGorillaBiker I have never bought tyres for My big heavy bike.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ahhhh ok. Metzeler roadtec 01 :)

[@pinctinc]

mitas touring force vs michelin road 5?comments :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Never used the road 5s on the CBF so I couldn't comment sorry!

[@mazatiestos]

Really informative, appreciate your effort, but i think I will keep sticking to the regular sportforce +, they are cheap either way :D. Yamaha R3 owner, Sportforce + mounted and really happy with them.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I currently have sport forces on the bike myself :) Ah with a Yamaha R3 I'd deeeefinitely stay with stickier tyres anyway :) Way more fun!

[@mazatiestos]

@@TheGorillaBiker yeah you are right! 7000 km on the rear tyre and still has some rubber, definitely best choice ever… some friends also recommend Avon brand

[@TheGorillaBiker]

@@mazatiestos that's very good! If I get 4000km out of my rear I'll be doing well :) I've never used Avon myself

[@mazatiestos]

@@TheGorillaBiker yeah! Thats the average mileage on bigger cc bikes, my friend on his r6 gets that more or less, and he likes rolling the throttle haha

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah yeah I'd be the same a little :P happy to use them up tho that's what they're for 😁😁

[@Alcapowen]

I'm more confused than ever by this vid. They're good in the wet but not that good in the wet but they are quite good in the wet.....

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I would have to rewatch it to see what you mean, all I will say is you're the only person to ever have an issue understanding what I meant by the comments I've got so I can't help I'm afraid :)

[@Alcapowen]

@@TheGorillaBiker ah no worries big man I was being facetious. I just found it amusing. I've ordered these tyres for my CB500X and hope they are sweet.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

You won't regret them on that bike! My buddy has a 500x and uses the touring force and loves them!

[@rudylacadin3682]

Mitas tires are not reliable. I know of two fellow riders using Mitas Force on their bikes that exploded between 150 to 200kph. I will not gamble my life on this tire.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I'd honestly like to see the photos of that! All I can speak of is my own experience and others I know who use them. I had 6 sets of them and never had an issue. None of my friends have had either.

[@rudylacadin3682]

I don't know how to share to you the blown up Mitas tires here, but if you have an email, i can send them to you. I just change my Mitas tire on my GS1200 this morning for peace of mind, and i was surprised when the guy at the tire shop told me after removing my front tire that it has a bubble inside. I think Mitas tires will never sell in our country with the news of this two recent incidents, and mine too. My tires are only 2 months old!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Do you know were yours made in the EU plant? I hope you're also reporting that back to Mitas as they should refund you!! You can send photos to me either on facebook or instagram :)

[@mwtraining4310]

@@TheGorillaBikerdo you know anything of the Mitas MC50?