How to SAVE Star Wars

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@Rock-Child
@Rock-Child 4 ай бұрын
Bro, George Lucas is kinda the goat. He knows he isn’t perfect, but he still searches for it, looks for it.
@covertTJ
@covertTJ 4 ай бұрын
Took WWJD to HEART
@damiantirado9616
@damiantirado9616 2 ай бұрын
lol so george Lucas saying Star Wars is made for kids to make excuses for his bad writing makes himself the goat?
@Rock-Child
@Rock-Child 2 ай бұрын
@@damiantirado9616 Did you even watch the video? No one is talking about that, I’m talking about how George uses star wars as a way to tell good morals, and seems to be a great guy. So…shut up?
@willpoweramv
@willpoweramv 4 ай бұрын
We just need great writers. Andor was the best project to come out of Disney Star Wars. Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2 were great sure but Andor is a completely different level of quality.
@ross3986
@ross3986 4 ай бұрын
We need more projects like Andor fr
@aouyiu
@aouyiu 3 ай бұрын
Ahsoka was also great, imo.
@Spudtron98
@Spudtron98 Ай бұрын
Thing is, writers of that calibre usually don't want to be tied to a franchise for any longer than they need to. Andor's something of a one-off, after it's done they'll need to find a new creative lead.
@darkelmo2023
@darkelmo2023 4 ай бұрын
So basically what I'm hearing is...Fear is the mind killer
@willpoweramv
@willpoweramv 4 ай бұрын
I do see a way... There is a narrow way through...
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 ай бұрын
The killer who killed her people in a holy crusade
@simpguy24
@simpguy24 4 ай бұрын
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
@connormarchand6302
@connormarchand6302 3 ай бұрын
… YES!😂😂😂
@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938
@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938 3 ай бұрын
Wrong timeless epic, mate. Wrong timeless epic.
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 3 ай бұрын
What some people don't get, is that selfishness is a pretty slippery slope. But it's ESPECIALLY a slippery slope when you have telekinesis, mind control and super speed. The Force grants people powers probably no one should have, so they need to be wielded with the utmost responsibility. However, I do believe that the Jedi order has a fundamental flaw throughout most of their history and that's that they don't seek to, like you said, ''accept their inner darkness in order to overcome it''. Instead they seek to either ignore it or destroy it. The Jedi are so afraid of the dark side, of their inner darkness, that instead of understanding it, they tell their members they're not allowed to have these emotions, which leads to many Jedi, like Anakin, to bottle up all these doubts until one day they explode and get a ton of people killed. There's a reason why so many Sith are former Jedi. Sometimes the Jedi lucks out and gets a emotionally intelligent master who can help clear these doubts, like Obi Wan got with Qui Gon. But sometimes, the Jedi master ignores their student's doubts or reprimands them for having them, like Barris and Luminara, and then you get a dark sider.
@Mgauge
@Mgauge Ай бұрын
So many people just think of the Force as "cool superpowers" and accuse the Jedi of "monopolizing" it. They can't understand that idea that power can be a burden or that something can influence them outside themselves. It's a shortsighted, self-centered view that shows that they are in no way qualified to wield such a thing.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 23 күн бұрын
The Jedi that had these naive and myopic views on emotions also speaks to a larger issue about the organization and politics within the galaxy at large, the sheer scale of it, the sheer diversity of individuals in it, and the fact that these individuals are all just...people, each with varying levels of maturity, wisdom and intelligence, some possessing great will and courage, a naturally affinity for humility, honor and compassion, while others do not, others that would rather suppress or indulge their egos rather than understand and regulate them, because that is simply their personality. The Jedi, and the galaxy at large, exist within an inherently chaotic system, and constantly trying to bring order to that system, eliminate conflicts with imperfect, broad-reaching solutions and this especially applies to the Jedi's handling of the fact that they are all a group of pseudo-mystical psychics connected to a quasi-sentient esoteric phenomena that represents the positive and negative aspects of nature (if the Light Side is the natural order, than the Dark Side is a disease, a parasite or cancer, part of nature but no less destructive and predatory) influencing their minds and trajectories in life in unpredictable ways. The point of the Jedi's failure is that even they could, even they could be unwise, even they could sacrifice their honor and virtue in their efforts to maintain order. Still, that didn't make them the villains that projects like the Acolyte frame them as, as more than any other group that would have taken up a position of power within the galaxy, the organization at their best accepted strife as being inherent to life, that an order where justice had some value was better than total chaos where such virtues are cast aside and that a stifling order that sacrificed honor and freedom for peace shouldn't be the alternative to that chaos. In short, the best of the Jedi fought for an order where justice, honor and virtue meant something, while the worst of the Jedi, along with the Sith, sacrificed justice, honor, and virtue in the name of preserving or creating their own order.
@camendiv
@camendiv 4 ай бұрын
Star Wars may have to go the same way as the gaming industry. It's the same kind of people behind all of this, people without lives or interests solely devoted to changing society as a whole so that in the end, the audience leaves, the inevitable collapse occurs and only then can those who remember what was begin to rebuild.
@brinardtalks
@brinardtalks 4 ай бұрын
Love this, thanks for all the hard work in putting this together. Would love to see a follow up where you do a slate of movies with characters and story like you did for the DC series.
@lyrahaja
@lyrahaja 3 ай бұрын
Perfectly put man, I was always thinking a person cant be always be good but this video made me realise its not about being good or bad its about recognizing them both and choosing good. Im confused with recognizing with coexisting. But this really made me see what it is.
@FreakyJ967
@FreakyJ967 4 ай бұрын
Everywhere you look, there are more screenwriters and producers eager to take great stories and “make them their own.” It does not seem to matter whether the source material was written by Stan Lee ... Ian Fleming, Roald Dahl, Ursula K. Le Guin, J.R.R. Tolkien, Mark Twain ... Jane Austen, or… well, anyone. No matter how major a writer it is, no matter how great the book, there always seems to be someone on hand who thinks he can do better, eager to take the story and “improve” on it. “The book is the book, the film is the film,” they will tell you, as if they were saying something profound. Then they make the story their own. They never make it better, though. Nine hundred ninety-nine times out of a thousand, they make it worse” (George R.R Martin)
@purplemarsmotionpictures
@purplemarsmotionpictures 3 ай бұрын
There is a reason why Best Adapted Screenplay is a category in most film awards. It's an art. All screenwriters try, but only the very talented ones are able to pull it off.
@eesakhan6164
@eesakhan6164 23 күн бұрын
Adaptations should be different from the original. Dune part 1 was too close to the source material but didn't get the point and failed. In part 2 they fixed their mistakes and did their own while getting the same point across. Adaptations that are too close almost always fail, and adaptations that don't try to recreate the point also fail. A fine balance of change and staying the same is what's needed.
@krazykanonball1735
@krazykanonball1735 21 күн бұрын
@@eesakhan6164That’s an adaptation though, in this video and comment they’re talking about sequels a continuation of Star Wars, not a remake. An adaptation is different from a continuation.
@sttrooper-lt7xp
@sttrooper-lt7xp 4 ай бұрын
It’s really nice to see people appreciating The Bad Batch, it is so underrated
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 21 күн бұрын
If only for Crosshair and the Imperial perspective... and Tech of course. The rest was difficult to get engaged with since a lot of it was aimless adventure that ultimately served more as filler between all the important stuff.
@Theover4000
@Theover4000 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this reflection on the state of the franchise. I've never been a Star Wars giga-nerd, my passions lie elsewhere, but I'm a fan. It hurts to see where Disney leaves the franchise is right now. It's absolutely absurd that they've let it flounder like it has. This is a really well made video and I hope someone at Disney sees it.
@wingmandecrayt8932
@wingmandecrayt8932 4 ай бұрын
Wow that comment about pleasure and joy perfectly encapsulates Disney.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 4 ай бұрын
I'm a big sci-fi fan, I often get corrected in that Star Wars is Science Fantasy but that is the element that makes me like, but not love, most of what others would think are the good Star Wars. Saying that... Return of the Jedi is one of my favourite movies of all time. This video has been fantastic and there are also so great comments already. Even though I like a lot of it, I wouldn't call myself a Star Wars Fan so feel free to take what I say with a pinch of salt. Firstly, I didn't like how Lucas himself presented the force, in the original trilogy it was a mystical or spiritual element but in Phantom he introduced science in the form of midi-chlorians. I know it's a way of accessing the force and not the force itself, but it still felt like a convolution. I felt that part of the downfall of the Jedi was their hubris., Overconfidence led to ignorance and thus they could not sense the Sith Temple that the Jedi temple was built on and could not sense Darth Sidious. They were deliberately denied the history of their forbearers and could not learn from it. I like the concept of the Dark Jedi (which I believe were mistakenly called Grey Jedi) This links very well to what you said about the Jedi being principled and disciplined, which are noble qualities that are important to me in real life. But this can sometimes breed apathy. A real-life example is anger did lead to a positive outcome. When I was roughly 12 a friend was getting bullied, I interjected and he went after me instead, I defended myself and smacked his head off a wall. I hadn't meant to do it and it wasn't hard enough to do damage but it was a wakeup call. It didn't totally change him but he left my younger friend alone and we actually got on fine afterwards. It was just part of being young, no grudges were held but lessons were learned. I am not a brave man by nature I've not always got involved where I probably should have but I have sometimes spoken up, sometimes out of morality but sometimes out of frustration. Even though listening to this 'dark side' led to positive outcomes and was tempered by discipline I would not want to be that man every day. This is why keeping things in check is a muscle that needs to be exercised rather than denying it or ignoring it all together. We must co-exist with it. I am also a non-drinker, people have often asked me if I miss not releasing my inhibitions from time to time but those inhibitions are very useful to me. I have made mistakes and I have emotionally hurt people, never intentionally, but because I am clear headed I can take responsibility for those actions and learn from them. Not to say that my emotions don't cloud my judgement from time to time, but on the whole, those emotions allow me to feel much more joy than sadness and I would never want to bury that sadness but it makes me appreciate the good.
@JA-eb4wu
@JA-eb4wu 4 ай бұрын
I'll bite. Reading this, I actually think you may come to "love" Star Wars in a way that exceeds the avg. fan that profess to "love" Star Wars does. ("Star Wars" here referring primarily to Lucas / OT original trilogy). But you don't yet connect your anecdotal experience with the archetypal and mythological. Dark Jedi, Grey Jedi (Even Sith) were not mentioned in the OT, and not essential to Lucas mythology (came later in expanded universe and content). But generally Dark and Grey Jedi not interchangeable. Dark more like Dark side user but outside Sith code , and Grey more either on borderline, or a Light user but outside Jedi code. But in your anecdote, I think you are most like... THE Jedi (not Dark or Grey, but Light). Your attribution to "anger" lacks nuance due to the limitations of language, especially in English language in the area of morals and myth. You did not act out of a self-ish ego driven "anger", but rather what might be differentiated as "righteous anger" rooted in a moral sense of injustice. You interjected self-lessly, with the virtue of courage in the face of Fear, putting yourself in harms way for the benefit another, not acting self-ishly prioritizing your safety. You did not interject based on Hate, but rather in the virtues of Charity and Love for a friend and fellow human being. No not "passionate Love", But rather what would be differentiated in Greek as philia (brotherly love) and/or agape (love of humanity). The Greeks, and George, knew the nuance here because the Greeks had at least 4 different words for Love and 4 different words for Anger. Your righteous anger and love and courage was selfless and virtuous, not passionate self centered and immoral. The Jedi are not apathetic cave dwelling monks withdrawn from society. They have the full spectrum of emotion or they would have no need for discipline. They use violence when necessary, but understand the risks. They give up the selfish pleasures and passions, for the selfless joy of duty and service. Anakin, his massacre of the raiders that leads him to the dark is born of anger and hate. Ignoring Shmi calling "I love...". The actions of an undisciplined, temperamental and reckless Padawan. Passions overwhelmed his sense of duty and discipline. He does not see the futility and risks. In RotJ Leia encourage Luke to withdraw. But he puts first others. He "interjects". He is at first acting in anger in cutting off Vader's hand, but he recognizes the futulity. Then it is not the force or a lightsaber that will overcomes the Dark, it is Luke, weaponless in an act of of self(less) sacrificial love, recognizing the humanity in a monster, that shines the Light and likewise inspires and act of self(less) sacrificial love and redeems the monsters and civilization. The actions not of the a reckless trigger happy Padawan, or an emotionless apathetic robot, but of a disciplined Jedi master. I see no major conflict with the truths you've expressed and those that the decide of the Jedi generally communicate. Human nature, these conflicts of the human heart, are near universal in experience and in myths and histories. And we all on some level tend to experience them through life, you clearly have and in a conscious way. Great art expresses universal truths, and that connects with people deeply. Lucas is admittedly derivative of these great myths. And perhaps his art is not for you. But perhaps as well when you connect your thoughtful reflections and vocabulary with his mythology and vocabulary then you will hold his art in greater esteem.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 4 ай бұрын
@@JA-eb4wu Thanks. Awesome reply with a lot of truth. The broad appeal of the Star Wars was the traditional storytelling and archetypal characters. People don't need to build the character from scratch. Taking cues from the archetypes from stories than are ingrained in us, we quickly get to know 80% of the character so only have to fine tune the last 20% . It's an interesting 20% but the point is we connect to them nearer the start than the end. Wit some more modern stories, we only learn the true motivations of the hero neared the end.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 22 күн бұрын
To add to the Dark and Grey Jedi side of this discussion, while fear, anger and hate alone are often seen as the primary paths to the Dark Side, but this excludes another aspect of the equation. In full, it is pride, jealousy and greed that make someone "fall" to the Dark Side, the feeling of importance over others wether in a positive or negative context (wether hubris or insecurity), the desire to keep and not let go, the desire to have and to do, all unfiltered, all unregulated. Overall, wether describing a Darksider consumed by negative emotions or a Lightsider becoming so emotionally detached they become emotionally unintelligent and immature, the inability to separate subjective experience from objective reality, the inability to regulate emotion, ego and perception, leads to destruction, to naivety and myopia, the death of wisdom. An unrestrained ego with unstrained passion and desire is what makes a Darksider, wether its depicted as the Dark Side being this corruptive element that addles a persons mind or general negativity that is then exploited and abused by already malicious people. There are some examples in certain continuities in Star Wars (namely the game The Force Unleashed) where this negative, destructive element of the Force can have a situationally positive result in the world, as the main character destroys various Imperials using the Dark Side, weaponizing the rage he was raised to learn to harness as to destroy symbols of oppression, before he ultimately sacrifices himself, allowing compassion and love to guide him, generosity and service being the path of the ideal Jedi. But again, this was only situational, just as fear anger and hatred of the Empire lead to people taking up arms against it, but also lead to Rebels like Saw Guerrera sowing discord that only served to justify the Empire's aggression towards them, fear, anger and hatred not tempered by compassion, ambition not tempered by humility, a mission to destroy an oppressive order, corrupted by pride, creating chaos the average galactic citizen would rather be rid of. With Rebels like Saw Guererra and the Separatist Alliance, the audience is given an antagonist that seeks change at any cost, a formerly well meaning movement co-opted by greedy, hateful and malicious figures in the various corporate leaders and Sith Lords backing it (just as Count Dooku's desire for positive change was corrupted by his inability to separate his personal grudges against the system and sense of superiority over those that ran it from the movement), sowing chaos in their wake. With the Republic's transition into the Empire, the audience is given a new antagonist seeking peace at any cost in response to the previous war, a movement again co-opted by greedy, hateful and malicious figures like the very Sith that instigated the previous war and the various Imperials who would use their power to stamp out freedom after deciding that for their to be peace, some must never be free, some must be destroyed (just as Anakin Skywalker's desire for peace and justice was corrupted by his distain for change, conflating it with loss, deciding it best to beat the galaxy into submission, punishing it for it's disorder, for ever daring to hurt him), creating tyranny in their wake. So the overall lesson the best of the Jedi in particular learn is mental and emotional regulation, being able to exert some measure of order on the chaos inside themselves, to understand it, not ignore and repress it like the worst of the Jedi, and through this comes wisdom and joy, as the alternative is being ruled by the imbalance between order and chaos, at the expense of oneself and others.
@industrialpanic
@industrialpanic 3 ай бұрын
This is probably the best video I have seen on the Acolyte and it’s many problems. Everything is very well said and the perfect way to voice our frustration as Star Wars fans.
@pietrocious
@pietrocious 4 ай бұрын
such a funny centrist/moderate mindset and not at all surprised to see them happily claim being "in the grey"
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 3 ай бұрын
You think being a centrist is comparable to the whole grey jedi thing? I'd argue the opposite. Saying that assumes that a political ideology (be it right or left) is inherently evil, when it's political extremism (again, be it right or left) that leads to ''evil'' systems.
@sulac4ever170
@sulac4ever170 3 ай бұрын
​@@aguywithalotofopinions412SO TRUE!
@gutdupois2809
@gutdupois2809 3 ай бұрын
​@@aguywithalotofopinions412 Some extremes are blatantly worse than others (in star wars obviously Sith vs Jedi Order). Even if those both far sides of the spectrum take their ideology to the extreme, there's going to be one who's basic principles are more harmful than the others. That's why I think the idea of a grey jedi is comparable to a centrist because there's a refusal to put things into perspective of the two sides.
@aguywithalotofopinions412
@aguywithalotofopinions412 3 ай бұрын
@@gutdupois2809 Except no, because while the light side can lead to dogma in the extremes (Kotor 2 is probably the best example), there’s no such thing as a moderate dark sider, because the dark side is inherently corrupting (Dooku is probably the best example of that)
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 21 күн бұрын
That's an interesting issue when it comes to the Dark Side as it pertains to Star Wars. It's not something that can be so easily "turned on and off", it actively affects the minds​ of those that channel it, it destabilizes them mentally and emotionally, even if they have the initial will, courage and humility to resist it. It is negativity contrasting the Light Side's positivity, chaos contrasting the Light Side's order. The Force is not like some other emotion-related power systems like Qi from Dragon Ball or Cursed Energy from Jujutsu Kaisen, where individuals learn to utilize their negative emotions to fuel the potency and precision of their powers and there's no adverse mental side effect (unless you consider the Super Saiyan transformation amplifying the pride and aggression of those that achieve it), using the Dark Side *does* affect the minds and emotions of those that use it and is inherently chaotic and destructive in general. This is why the concept of Grey Jedi, while interesting, is flawed, because both sides of the Force actively oppose each other and pull those who are connected to it to either one side or the other, meaning one cannot stay "in the middle" for long until one side wins out, no matter the will of the individual resisting it. If we're talking ideological extremes, the Sith fully embrace that Dark Side's amplication of their most primal aspects, which is ultimately suffocating for themselves and everyone affected by them in their system of greed, jealousy and treachery, one that destroys even those that try to use it to create lasting positive change (which again, is diametrically opposed to what the organization and that aspect of the Force embody, as they are inherently destructive and are only suited for destruction). The Jedi at their best understood that Force-sensitives should not be given positions of power, as it would only fuel their ego and amplify the range of the consequences of them misusing that power, but the worst of them took their station as the belief it was their duty, their right, to do everything it took to keep order, to protect peace and justice, even at the expense of their honor, their compassion, their ability to understand and connect with other beings, and eventually, their humility, their wisdom and their emotional intelligence. They did this in their attempts to put blanket solutions on institutional problems to compensate for the sheer scale of their organization, the sheer scale of the galaxy they policed, the diversity of it's members and their personalities, most notably emotional regulation, which some Jedi mistook for repression. In the name of generosity and sacrifice, they sacrificed their personhood, and it eventually cost them. In the long run, both organizations are flawed, but one was inherently a danger to galactic civilization, the other *became* a danger in their ignorance.⁠@@aguywithalotofopinions412
@champcpr
@champcpr 4 ай бұрын
I’ve always been drawn to darkness & dark characters…Sith(Bane & Maul), Chaos marines(Warhammer), DeathScythe(Gundam), etc…something about falling into an endless abyss of passionate malice and severed realities feels poetic to my taste. But this Jedi character study was some good shxt, inspiring even. ✊🏾
@retrohero2762
@retrohero2762 4 ай бұрын
I think they should set a new film hundreds of years into the future where the only returning character is a Jedi Grogu. Have a new generation of Jedi but dont even mention Rey so we can pretend that these are carrying over from Luke's students and ignore the sequel trilogy completely. Expand the universe and do more unique and interesting things plus try new concepts and push the genre like George wouldve done instead of clinging to the past and using nostalgia bait
@Person-wz6iy
@Person-wz6iy 28 күн бұрын
You're a genius, ignore the Sequels, yet not retcon the same time.
@BUnspoken
@BUnspoken Ай бұрын
19:12 always love that part, how he looks at his arm as a reminder of what Vader became
@graceross4888
@graceross4888 3 ай бұрын
I think they will make Grey Jedi canon, it is a cool concept for the games and they paid millions to own the circus, we can already see them set it up
@HenryLouis21
@HenryLouis21 3 ай бұрын
They won’t make the grey Jedi canon, it’s not a cool concept either way because it’s just going against what the force is about. The story group has said multiple times that they won’t make the concept of grey Jedi canon.
@graceross4888
@graceross4888 3 ай бұрын
@@HenryLouis21 i think i was too vague, i hate grey jedi but as a concept and game mechanic they are cool, disney might want to make them canon bc it sounds cool to the normal fans.
@HenryLouis21
@HenryLouis21 3 ай бұрын
@@graceross4888 no it’s not, and Disney doesn’t control what Star Wars does. The Lucasfilm story group has stated many times that they won’t make grey Jedi canon even if normal fans think its cool or makes for a cool game mechanic.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 3 ай бұрын
@@HenryLouis21 Plus you don’t gain any benefit being a grey Jedi in the end be more vulnerable to the dark side if give in those dark emotions.
@benjfalcon8686
@benjfalcon8686 4 ай бұрын
Please more star wars videos
@Heaatth
@Heaatth 3 ай бұрын
Just watched this and your marvel video and you're the first person i've seen that seems like they understand what both source material is lacking and the steps to coming back towards the source material and while also progressing the franchises. Good videos man, deserves alot more attention and views. Hope these properly blow up and Disney higher ups learn from this.
@The_Presbyterian
@The_Presbyterian 4 ай бұрын
The king just doesn't miss!
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 ай бұрын
Whoa whoa 🤯 Star Wars I don’t think is that big of a damage brand personally for me my favorite thing we got is well clone wars series the og trilogy and of course the video games we got have been good and I thought the mandorian was really good but that’s just my opinion.
@anthonyyoutubefan7567
@anthonyyoutubefan7567 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Honestly, a good deal of people in high places (many of them put in place by Kathleen Kennedy herself) at Lucasfilm Ltd. should watch this video. Ironically, MOST of the storytelling told in The High Republic Multimedia Initiative (esp. the books, comics, Animated series, and video game) DON'T break Lucas' canon...BUT, The Acolyte even crosses out some of the major concepts of The High Republic Era, making Headland's story very separate from that new, unique block of storytelling. I don't consider, The Acolyte as being part of The High Republic Era of The SWU. P.S. I'd love either a SW movie that takes place 200 years in the future, inc. Grogu and other brand new characters, or an authentic, George Lucas-approved KOTOR trilogy or live-action series. However, I want very few (if any) of Kennedy's minions involved in either of them. Lucas, Filoni and his growing list of creatives, along with Favreau are the ones I trust with current and future depictions of a galaxy far, far away...
@RTJ81
@RTJ81 4 ай бұрын
Luke Skywalker Jedi Academy TV show would be the most watched television of this decade.
@j2174
@j2174 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention the fires where basically all things exploding into each other, so it can be argued that the fire was internal to the ship, etc that is exploding. They always dissipated really quickly.
@danterose6673
@danterose6673 4 ай бұрын
Two points: 1) I've been reading the novels lately instead of watching anything new. I'm really enjoying Lost Stars. Events we know, but following new people and themes. That's what I want to see more of. 2) I think it's an interesting trend we are seeing that a lot more show creators have a very cynical view of material which was really based in a hopeful theme. Darker takes of joyful characters, distrust of organization/religions, and cases of movie antagonist challenging status quos are so much more common in media now. Somewhere along the way being optimistic really got turned into being native.
@LionKing-ui9po
@LionKing-ui9po 4 ай бұрын
I can already tell this is about to be his best video yet
@chiranjeevsaikia560
@chiranjeevsaikia560 4 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on Genddy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars. Imo its pretty underrated
@flyingfortress15
@flyingfortress15 3 ай бұрын
I'd say that Mandaolorian is a good example of what star wars should be though I have one problem with it, After Baby yoda is given to Luke that's where I think they should'ev dropped him, accepting you can't be side by side with someone al the time would be a much better thing to focus on. But I have a feeling disney executives went "Nope, he makes money, he's staying" even though his continued presence feels tacked on.
@DrD00M3
@DrD00M3 4 ай бұрын
Star Wars is a fairytale mythology as George Lucas has said it's one of the reasons I think it's special it's not some western or normal sci-fi franchise
@Hewylewis
@Hewylewis 4 ай бұрын
There are a lot of hardcore Star Wars fans out there who started to turn on Clone Wars because of newer Disney Filoni shows like Bad Batch and Rebels. They say FIiloni is a terrible showmaker now because he paves over the expanded universe and picks and chooses what he likes about it. What are your thoughts on this? Also, The Mandolorian was all Jon Favreau, not Filoni. Well, at least the first two seasons.
@chronicguardian9684
@chronicguardian9684 4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear there are people turning on him. For the record, I never liked the Clone Wars or its surrounding shows after trying multiple times to get into them, but I was glad that they could act as an effective onramp to welcome people into the wider Extended Universe.
@tommyg4842
@tommyg4842 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s me pretty much filioni pretty much fuked up everything imo more and more over time. Star Wars is like his play ground…. he can do anything like insert HIS fav baby momma Jesus incarnate Ashoka the OC queen, create (professor hulk voice) TIMETRAVEL, undermine keeper of the holocron. Telling sam witwer that continuitydoesn’t really matter. All in all dave filoni is a overall fraud. Talented but a fraud. IMO.
@swolecapybara
@swolecapybara 4 ай бұрын
Because Filoni is just as big a canon breaker as any other Disney exec. And he can’t stray away from anything Ahsoka-related. I watched TCW as a kid and it never drew me in.
@covertTJ
@covertTJ 4 ай бұрын
​@@chronicguardian9684it took me a few tries over several years before I could digest the art style and its uncanny valley, but it's such a good show as are Rebels (slow start) and The Bad Batch (iffy ending) overall.
@gergelyboros8138
@gergelyboros8138 3 ай бұрын
CW is shit anyway
@hebstir
@hebstir 3 ай бұрын
This perfectly summed up why Star Wars has been on a steady decline since Disney bought it, I just couldn’t realise it without you. Acolyte might be the worst written piece of media I’ve ever seen, and considering it was suppose to be a Star Wars product it just breaks my heart. The worst part is there are elements I like about and it’s not all bad, it had the potential to be good and it just falls short. In my eyes it’s not canon and besides Resistance it will be the first Star Wars media I refuse to rewatch. Deadpool and Wolverine has somehow restored SOME of my faith in Disney’s ability to make entertaining movies and hopefully tv shows again but only time will tell.
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 3 ай бұрын
"faith in Disney's ability to make entertaining movies and hopefully tv shows again" Is it really Disney making all that stuff, though? Just because they own Marvel and Lucasfilm doesn't mean they made the recent Star Wars shows.
@ReaperXC
@ReaperXC 27 күн бұрын
"Disregard of Lucas" people hated the prequels and it's only after the disney saga people are defending them and hailing Lucas for them.
@ribo07h
@ribo07h 6 күн бұрын
honestly a well made heir to the empire movie can be sick
@markanderson7236
@markanderson7236 Ай бұрын
11:55 I've heard this quote from him before.
@sulac4ever170
@sulac4ever170 3 ай бұрын
"Simple": Reboot the entirety of all Canon content from the center Disney era (around the time of the big movies and onwards) and adopt all of those amazing Legends novels by Timothy Zahn and so on into movies and series. Series: The Yuuzhan Vong Wars, the second Galactic Civil War and the Fate of the Jedi era and maybe the Jedi Academy Series. Republic Commando Books either as a series or as several movies. Movies and Trilogies: Heir to the Empire Trilogy (and it's continuation with Specter of the Past and Visions of the Future), Darth Bane Trilogy, Old Republic Novels (single movies), Darth Plaques, Kenobi (by JJ Miller), Scoundrels (Oceans Eleven Meets Star Wars), Maul Lockdown, ... So much great material written by actual professionals and all of which include actual strong female leads with great character but also weaknesses and limitations just as their male counterparts (Leia, Jaina, Winter, Ayrn Leneer!!!, Tenel Ka, ...).
@Omnitrickster0207
@Omnitrickster0207 4 ай бұрын
15:39 Best come back
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 ай бұрын
12:45 "The Jedis are absolute right! They are absolute the good guys" Episode I - They are informed by Qui Gon that he met a sith lord and the Concil doesn't belive him, saying that it's impossible. Then they said they would use all their resources to find out if the return of the Sith was truth ,but they just send two jedis to face Maul, which result in the death of Qui-Gon Episode II - Padme says that Count Dooku could be the one behind the assassinations attempt against her but the Jedis dismissed by saying that he was a jedi once, so he would never try to comitt such crime... and they are proving wrong by the end. Also, Obi Wan tells them that there's a Sith Lord infiltrate in the Senate and the Jedi choose to just ignore. Clone Wars 2008 - Ashoka is frame for murderer and only Anakin tries to prove her innocence while rest of the concil doesn't belive her, going as far as kick her out of the order and send her to be judge. After Anakin prove her innocence, the Jedis don't even apologize for what they made Ashoka go through. They just say they are glad she was innocent and offer back her place in the order, which Ashoka to leave them. Also, some episode establish that the Jedi were aware of Palpatine manipulations but, instead of acting, they choose to keep quiet so they could focus on the war. Episode III - When Anakin reveals that Palpatine is a sith lord, Windu solution is to just walking into his officer and muder Palpatine even though this action would just ruin the Jedi image in the eyes of the public. OT - Obi Wan lies to Luke about what happen to his father then later both him and Yoda keep teeling Luke he has to kill Vader in order to save the universe. The Jedi were never right. That's the point of both the prequels and OT story and what Acolyte was adressing with the "grey area": Even those consider great ones aren't pefect (the Jedi council) and can be corrupt (ex: Anakin) but also, those who fall can find the strenght to redeem themselves (ex: Darth Vader). The reason why Luke in the end was able to overcome the dark side wasn't bc he follows the jedi orders, it's because he choose to reject it and belive in himself, in his good values. That's what makes him the greatest jedi.
@rangerelessar3095
@rangerelessar3095 4 ай бұрын
You are describing mistakes. Mistakes don’t make one evil
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 ай бұрын
@@rangerelessar3095 It doesn't make one right neither.
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 4 ай бұрын
They didn't tell Luke to kill Vader, that's a common misconception. You're right that they were written as morons in the prequels but that wasn't Lucas's intent.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 ай бұрын
@@TheMinskyTerrorist Both Obi Wan and Yoda lied to Luke about what happened to his father. Luke would probably killed Vader if he hadn't revealed the truth. While I can't confirm if the jedis portrayal was Lucas intentional or not, I think it might have been since fits with the point of prequels. Its a inverse of the OT, taking it's ideas and fliping over our heads. The clone wars was said to be this big epic battle between good guys and bad guys, but in reality was a scheme of Palpatine to take over the galaxy. The Republic we saw as the good guys is show to not be perfect goverment (ex: they allow planets like Tattoine to have slavery) and eventually became the empire (Lucas himself even said that he created the empire based on United States during Nixon administration) Darth Vader, who fans saw as this iconic villain, is show in the prequels as hero who, through tragic events, becomes corrupt. Finally the Jedi, who in the OT trilogy were describe as this wise heroic warriors, were show in the prequels, through the eyes of characters like Anakin and Ashoka, to be pridefull and ego driven people who refuse to share their power or use to help the less fortune ( ex: Anakin mother and the slaves), expecting others to do the change they could do it on their own (ex: They way they treat and trained Anakin, expecting him to bring balance to the force, when that's also their job as well).
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 ай бұрын
Yea people don't understand the Acolyte was obviously pointing out flaws that had already been shown before about the Order
@nobbyfirefly57
@nobbyfirefly57 3 ай бұрын
All Disney needs to do is hire some well known fanfic writers. Heck, they could do a contest where the person who writes the best fanfic gets to write the next movie. Or just bring back George Lucas. If he wants to of course.
@HenryLouis21
@HenryLouis21 3 ай бұрын
George is an 80 year old man, bringing him back to run a company and work on future stories just feels like elder abuse because you’re forcing a man to work against his will on a franchise he told off because he was getting tired of all the toxic fans. Also, they don’t hire “fanfic writers” or whatsoever the hell you mean by that
@baki484
@baki484 4 ай бұрын
I recommend the jedi games by respawn.
@Goggles36195
@Goggles36195 4 ай бұрын
You should make a pitch video for how you would make the sequels
@maahirpatel6036
@maahirpatel6036 4 ай бұрын
This ur best video.
@Cartoonssolosyourfavoriteverse
@Cartoonssolosyourfavoriteverse 23 күн бұрын
Easy. Fans must take back Star Wars away from Disney and Create Star Wars Legends Movies and TV shows on KZbin.
@kingkdr1996
@kingkdr1996 4 ай бұрын
What is the source for “Grey Jedi aren’t real!” Want to watch that in its entirety
@aimeevalentine8003
@aimeevalentine8003 Ай бұрын
Great work!!!! I checked out your channel as promised 😁
@Misdemeanor3839
@Misdemeanor3839 3 ай бұрын
I would want a complete reboot of book of boba fett where he’s actually cool and Cad Bane is the main antagonist throughout the entire show. From there there can be so many different opportunities to show just how ruthless boba is compared to Mando when it comes to getting his way
@tommyg4842
@tommyg4842 4 ай бұрын
Just make a movie based on one of the old republic trailers. If it does well do a saga on that period (yknow actually plan it out from start to end this time). Use THAT games design and writer teams and pay them well!! Get thee keeper of the holocron Leelan Chen give him Daves position as leadership! and tell him dump ALL of that Disney Star Wars out of his brain the headaches are over!! and use more og staff from the original trilogy and prequel movies especially for fight choreography because eww it sucks now. Anything animated we going back to Genndy, I'm tossing out "Dave Wars". Lastly were picking the best legends stories and Dark Horse comics (with fan votes at times) to be adapted into films, possibly even trilogies or sagas. We will pay those OG writers and illustrators their worth!! Maybe we even let George to do his original plan to make a sequel to episode to episode 6. We do all of that and boom!! we're back baby!!
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 3 ай бұрын
I think Lucas had more time to notice he was making garbage and writing garbage long enough to have time to fix it before he printed it. There’s plenty of stories about how BAD Star Wars was before changes were made in the script and story long before anything was filmed. Today, they whip a film out before the digital ink is dry. You can’t make something great if you’re rushing to push it out the door. You make… junk.
@mesieurt2
@mesieurt2 3 ай бұрын
Disney has just been a scurge to everything it touches; Star wars, Marvel Cinematic Universe, etc
@nicwaterfill2931
@nicwaterfill2931 4 ай бұрын
Me personally, I’d add some more meat to the Sequel Trilogy era. How exactly did the emergence of the First Order and their takeover impacted the Galaxy? How did it affect those like smugglers? How does the First Order’s brand of totalitarianism differ from the Empire’s. To add onto the themes of legends and stories that were brought up in “The Last Jedi”, I’d want to explore how exactly the ordinary people think of the Jedi and those who believe in the myths. How do people take those stories and change themselves for better or worse.
@astro-ko3cu
@astro-ko3cu 2 ай бұрын
It's not like lucas couldn't write a maraly gray story(for the mist part) he didn't want to he wanted to let us decide if we are good people
@alucard347
@alucard347 4 ай бұрын
I think the big reason some people turn away from the jedi towards the concept of gray jedi is the failiure of the order. At the end of the day, rather than teaching kids how to control their emotions, they taught them to shun them. They forbade you to marry and have children, they discouraged interactions with your old family, they built a cult centered around severing one from everything that mades you a humam being, all in the hopes of achieving balance and peace. But you cannot achieve peace by denying yourself these aspects of life. The dark side offer complete surrender to your base desires, to be ruled pver by your emotions, but the jedi only offered their neglect. This is why anakin fell to the dark side, because they tried to teach the loving and empathetic boy that to avoid fear he must sever his connections in life and abandon those he cared about to their fates. And ultimately, it was Anakin's love that saved the galaxy, when he chose his family over palpatine. So the idea that the jedi do not represent balance, but instead the rejection of humanity is ingrained into the text of the story, not through their ideals, but through their shortcomings. Hence why when people imagine the gray jedi, all they do is reinvent luke and obi wan. Wise people who are in tune to their emotions and allow themselves to be human and vulnerable while still being rational and control those emotions. Lucas may have intended for the jedi to be balanced insividuals, who can control themselves, and he certainly wrote them as such in the original trilogy, but the jedi order as shown in the prequals strayed too far from its path and chose to represent the light side not as balance and composure, but as the rejection of the self completely. For your comparisons to stoicism, even marcus Aurelius fell in love and had kids he cared for dearly, and did all in his power to be in the life of those he cared about. Mace windoo would have called it weakness and yoda would have cautioned him that wuch connections will bring him down a dark path, because they refused to accept that part of controlling your emotions is confronting them and learning to live with them. Again, that is not the goal of the jedi, but it was the reality the prequels gave us.
@dragonlord6484
@dragonlord6484 3 ай бұрын
Can I just say thank you? Because before watching this video, I was conflicted on how I feel about The Acolyte. And now, yeah that show had two good things in it being Sol and Jecki and they were wasted in a terrible show.
@deivymaybe7554
@deivymaybe7554 3 ай бұрын
Why the first stars wars movie werent well recieved but later became compelling.
@DaybScrollsShorts
@DaybScrollsShorts Ай бұрын
how fid you make those cool logos like for the justice league one and two videos?
@HarlowRed
@HarlowRed 4 ай бұрын
I just want a Christopher Nolan Star Wars Trilogy
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 ай бұрын
That doesn't sound bad😅. What would it be about. The Empire/rebels or force users ?
@HarlowRed
@HarlowRed 4 ай бұрын
@@trehubb6144 It doesn't matter as long as it has spectacle and story, as stated in his interview with George Lucas. He's also rumored to be in talks with Disney as when he was asked if he would direct another superhero movie in an interview for Oppenheimer he said no, but when asked immediately afterwards if he would direct a Star Wars movie he declined to answer. Go check out Film Theory's video on it. It's really comprehensive, actually makes complete sense, and really isn't all that far out there. I also think that he would do really good with James Bond and has expressed great interest in directing a trilogy of Bond films in the past. CHRIS NOLAN IS THE FUTURE OF HOLLYWOOD 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
@kadegetslaid634
@kadegetslaid634 4 ай бұрын
Hell no 😭 get him away from starwars let him make his original movies
@HarlowRed
@HarlowRed 4 ай бұрын
​@@kadegetslaid634 He can still make his own original movies within Star Wars. That's the whole point of creating such a big and diverse galaxy, and so many different characters and worlds. You can tell any story that you want. All you need to make it good is story and spectacle.
@kadegetslaid634
@kadegetslaid634 4 ай бұрын
@HarlowRed Nolan would make it confusing and cluttered, he's not the type of director that starwars needs
@agm5424
@agm5424 4 ай бұрын
The whole literal point of most of today's writing is about ideologically destroying good stories and have people stop consuming said good stories with good messages. However this wouldn't be a problem if people weren't watching and talking about this bad stories, weren't considering them canon specially since they go against the original core stories, like the first two trilogies of star wars, and their themes and it's clear the new stories are mainly ideologically subversive and not written by people who also care about the lore. Don't want stories like Star wars to "die"? Then don't watch or talk about this new series and stop saying things like "the series is dead" which is exactly what the subversive writers want. Go watch the real material and talk about that.
@ValyrianPrince
@ValyrianPrince 4 ай бұрын
Who is the guy ranting on the podcast?!😮 17:16
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 4 ай бұрын
Freddie Prince Jr, he played Kanan in Rebels.
@baki484
@baki484 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@thesuperframe He is right There is no Grey jedi. The jedi games by respawn show us how the darkside affects someone. It's not good there's no balancing the 2. Respawn understand this.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 20 күн бұрын
@@baki484, Even older Legends games like Knights Of The Old Republic understand the Dark Side eventually corrupts and destroys anyone that tries to use it, making it inherently incompatible with being used for prolonged good beyond the situational need to destroy (like how Starkiller is in The Force Unleashed was in a position where his great power and use of the Dark Side being weaponized ultimately benefitted others before sacrificing himself in his refusal to be completely corrupted by the Dark Side). Either way, it's not possible to be "in the middle" forever, as both sides of the Force are inherently incompatible, like good and evil, order and chaos are opposites that define the other, negate the other, and each side constantly pulls individuals one or the other.
@damienkakoschke3099
@damienkakoschke3099 4 ай бұрын
Now I understand why The Acolyte felt wrong & why they've had trouble writing Jedi not being boring since 2012. I wonder if Mark Hamill will ever watch this, I think he'd agree with you about Luke Skywalker (it's well documented he did not feel like the Luke in the sequels was the Luke he had played in the originals).
@skynoise9985
@skynoise9985 4 ай бұрын
Very instructive video. I give you respect for you knowledge of Star Wars, Jedi, Sith, philosophy. Glad you mentioned your age in the beginning, which show your maturity and IQ. Very good video. And not really looking forward to any star wars content. I've walked away. ✌😎
@QuickPoker
@QuickPoker 4 ай бұрын
Well said brother 🙏🏻
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 4 ай бұрын
I wish what you were saying was true because I grew up on Star Wars, and I hate seeing the damage Disney has done to it.
@robertagren9360
@robertagren9360 4 ай бұрын
Kylo Ren: I don't turn toward Rey to win a conquest, I turn toward the light because she is Ray
@alexosborne1613
@alexosborne1613 4 ай бұрын
I think people are missing the point with the potential of the Acolyte concept. Yes, stories from a villains perceptive can be rich and great, of course they're relatable because we've all had dark and bad thoughts. I think the payoff though needs to be you see the results of the villainess path. A great example of this is Breaking Bad, where we the audience is rooting for a wannabe drug dealer. We're with him every step of the way weigh the moral quandaries and even agree with all his justifications till wait... Oh shit, he's the bad guy! Oh my god he's now doing some truly horrific things now! If they could get some one with the wiring caliber of the creative team behind breaking bad, then yes a show like the Acolyte can have merit.
@scottkidder9046
@scottkidder9046 3 ай бұрын
The problem is that people hated Filoni’s shows too and I kinda understood. They all felt flat. I think the Acolyte just infused a bunch of social just warrior energy and worldview and it really turned people off. I hate saying this, but it feels a bit stereotypical that this was the production of two highly educated artsy white women. Those are the kinds of people who really started all of this at Universities in the psychology and education departments. I was in that camp when it first started. I thought holding two opposite ideas and truths in tension with each other was some kind of transcendent worldview. I thought everyone was racist and that minorities were oppressed. I thought intersectionality was a huge insight. I thought there should be more representation, specifically racial representation and gender representation. I thought learning to accept yourself as you are was of highest importance. I thought that people could be a bit more confident in themselves and stop being so afraid to ask for things or to take care of themselves before others. And there’s an element of truth in all of those ideas. But I was also extremely depressed and in therapy a lot. My worldview at the time reflected one given to me by therapists trying to help someone love themselves enough not to kill themselves. You can see that the director is probably going through something like that or has been through something like that. It’s a worldview that is fundamentally selfish and insecure precisely because when you are depressed, it can be because you are a people-pleaser and you hate yourself so much that you are ready to kill yourself. At that point, being selfish is more of an antidote than a poison, it’s a way to survive. It’s also obvious that she thinks minorities, perhaps especially people of the LGBTQ community tend to share this in common with her. The neuroticism, the self-doubt, the increased risk of suicide. So naturally, they also see therapists and receive the same treatment. It’s a worldview that comes from that. I understand why it exists. And I think some of those points are valid. Two opposite things can be true simultaneously… kinda, people do struggle with mental health, minorities are more likely to have mental health issues, and sometimes when you are at risk of killing yourself, some selfishness and self preservation go a long way. But the problem is that that’s not what Star Wars is about and most people aren’t suicidal. At the end of the day, the goal is still to be selfless. We are selfish so that we have something to give of ourselves to others, not just to be selfish or just to survive, it’s more than that eventually. But regardless, it’s not Star Wars. I never knew any of this about Star Wars, but part of the reason people liked it was that it was kinda black and white. Yes, we all have both within us, but there are those who go toward the light and those who tend to just end up in the dark. I agree that it’s a totally different philosophy. Acknowledging your dark side and doing the work to try and control it is not the same as embracing both your light and dark sides in some kind of balance. The reason I think that ultimately I have distanced myself from this postmodern two opposites being true grey Jedi stuff is that it leads to some behaviors that are just completely ridiculous. It undoes our ability to be moral and it allows us to think that bad things are no more or less bad than anything else. The thing about making everything grey is that everything becomes the same. Murder is no worse than charity. All you have to do is change the context or change the perspective. That’s the only difference. But the acts aren’t moral or amoral themselves. And that’s completely absurd. And I think the fact that the director had to change the Jedi so drastically to fit what she thought they were really drives that point home. The director has a worldview and it really doesn’t make any sense to her that people are capable of being good or of trying to do their best in good faith even when what they do ends in tragedy. Nobody is truly good, people always act out both sides of them and cannot control their behavior. That’s just not true. It may be true for her (and to some degree myself if I’m honest) but it’s not true of everyone. The Jedi are stoics, they are the opposite of the director and I (on the inside at least). I would make a lousy Jedi. I get it. I’d be more like Anakin. I was afraid to lose my mother, and now that she’s dead, I have no idea what to do and for the moment, I’m extremely self absorbed, cynical, and selfish. I’m angry, I’m sad, and yet totally empty. I’m a true emo teen who can’t really process their emotions as well as I’d like to. I know I can do better, but for now, I just can’t. Literally a sith right there. So I understand the urge to try and say maybe it’s okay that I’m like this right now. But I’m no stoic, and because I’m so self-absorbed, people are getting hurt. It actually makes me incredibly sad. I’d be better off if I could somehow ignore all of my emotions at least when I needed to be there for others. It’d be better if I could control them more than I can now. And that’s the point. I’m not even sure I agree completely with that worldview, stoicism, but it would be more useful. In my selfishness, I tend to cut people off… which is what Jedi recommend I do constantly so as not to form attachment. Not sure that’s exactly true at least for everyone. I did love my mother and I do not regret it or think it was wrong to be attached to her or to have had a good relationship with her. And to be honest, I never will think it was wrong despite what people try to tell me. Point is that I understand where this director is coming from. But it isn’t Star Wars. The Jedi, love them or hate them, were not moody teens or depressed people. They didn’t preach the embrace of emotions. They didn’t preach balance. They preached detachment for the sake of loving everyone rather than just a few people. They preached stoicism and careful control of their emotions because of the power they wielded. And they tried their best in whatever situation they found themselves in. They weren’t bitter or cynical. And there’s something to that. You can criticize the Jedi all you want, but Jedi wouldn’t criticize Jedi, the Sith do that. I think grey Jedi if they existed would just be confused, in a holding pattern trying to figure out where they land. An easy fix would just be to give them another name without the word “Jedi” in it because they aren’t Jedi. Perhaps the most powerful Jedi was Anakin post being Vader. I think he truly knew why the Jedi were the way they were and yet he also truly knew why the sith were the way they were. And knowing all of that, he was able to choose the light. I don’t think anyone would ever be able to turn Anakin to the dark side again after that. You’d turn Obi Wan before you turned Anakin. I could go on, but I’ll stop here lol.
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 20 күн бұрын
Wether blamed on Feloni's tastes or Disney's and Kathleen's interference, there was something lost when Disney acquired Star Wars, the versatility of the franchise, the feeling that any genre, any tone, any story could be represented here, not just the fantasy adventure side of the franchise. While there are elements of what Star Wars as a franchise beyond the scope of just its 6 prior movies of used to be in things like Andor, The Mandalorian, Jedi: Fallen Order, it feels watered down, removed of its grit most of the time, the chaos and freedom of several artists putting their own creative spins on this franchise, made uniform and dull, alienating the people who may have fallen in love with certain aspects of the franchise, that have their own definition of Star Wars from these aspects, from the military science fiction aspects of the Thrawn novels, the Dune-esque style of storytelling with the New Republic and Old Republic Era's, story's told from the perspectives of villains and criminals like the Plaguesis novels that fully understood these characters were villains and never tried redeeming or softening them into anti-heroes the audiences were meant to route for. While there are some good stories that were made in this Disney Era, it is contrasting against projects that can decide wether to play into nostalgia or throw it all away to make something new even at the expense of the context of the franchise's continuity. The inability to commit, the inability to create something new without destroying the old, if we're using the Light and Dark Side's as metaphor, there is no balance, only the illusion that these people can make order out of chaos, that they can use the idea of representation, diversity and inclusivity as a placeholder for creative talent. I will say this as well, fear is not the real path to the Dark Side, it's pride, the feeling one's own thoughts, feelings and self are more important than anything and anyone else. Wether the pride of myopic fans that jealously hold onto to their vision of the franchise and take offense to any vision that competes with theirs or arrogant creatives that think they can simply alienate fans of the franchise and use the notion of bigotry as their weapon and defense against criticism, there are "villains" on both sides of this issue and no convenient way to handle it, just as their is no convenient way for the inhabitants of the Star Wars galaxy to handle the persistent strife and conflict they are assailed with in the face of the chaotic universe around them that they feebly attempt to imbue order onto through various means and sometimes to disastrous effects.
@sunsetvibe1063
@sunsetvibe1063 4 ай бұрын
I agree with most things. Accept for the idea that stakes are taken away just because future projects. Because you can apply that standard to any film or show you don’t have a bias towards. I can say that Luke shouldn’t have been able to force pull his lightsaber out of the snow at the beginning of Empire Strikes Back because the force was never used as a weapon in A New Hope. Why didn’t Obi Wan use the force to force push Darth Vader back. Why didn’t Darth Vader use force lightning on Obi Wan or Luke when he fought them. It sounds pathetic when you do this to the original films so I don’t see why we do the same for the new projects. Not every character in Star Wars should have the same knowledge as the audience or the same skill set as every other character around them. Because they don’t get to watch all the information we do in a 2 hour movie or 6 hour show.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 4 ай бұрын
Respect your opinion however ,not only I disagre with some points you criticize about Acolyte but also, some words you used like "This grey thing doesn't belong in Star Wars" or "they are changing the mythos" are the same words people said about the midichlorians, Anakin being a "space jesus" and other concepts from the prequels. Star Wars was already in trouble even before Disney bought the rights, with people involved in those, including Jake lloyd, Ahmed Best and even George Lucas himself were bullied and accused by toxic fans for "ruining their childhood". Why do you think TFA was basically trying to recreate ANH story? Bc of people's reaction to the prequels ideas. Every project after the OT (minus 2003 Clone Wars animated series) was recived with the same reception and overeaction by the fans. Even 208 Clone Wars only became popular after season 2 and 3. Before this fans were just hating it and complaning about Ashoka inclusion. I hope Star Wars can have some new good projects, however, when looking at all the previous projects (prequels and sequels) I just feel history will repeat itself.
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 4 ай бұрын
They were right back then too
@ingvarkarlson5982
@ingvarkarlson5982 3 ай бұрын
fair point. now,iirc Phantom Menace came out in '99 and RoTS in '05. I'd say by the time the sequels rolled around in 2015,the prequels were mostly loved. so,10 years after the last movie. lets see if people like the sequels in 2029. or,if you wish,you could draw the comparison between TPM and Clone Wars season 4(at which point,you said yourself people liked the show and likely the prequels too) which debuted in 2011. so,12 years later. the biggest difference is the amount of shows we've gotten in between. and so far it ain't looking too good for star wars.
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 3 ай бұрын
​@@ingvarkarlson5982 Good observation however by the time prequels became more accepted by big public, it was already too late. After so much hate they got and all the harrasement and bullying people suffered, there's no way that Disney would continue with Lucas idea after the prequels (who, btw, sold the rights bc of the hate he got). Even Clone Wars only became popular from second half season 2 moving forward. Before this it was also despite by people. It may have become a sucess in the end but it doesn't erase all the experiences the writers and creators suffered bc of toxic fan and their self-entitlment. I wouldn't be surprise at all if, in the future, most of this shows also end up being more accept by the public and Disney will still give the rights to another studio, letting them handle this franchise that brought so many hate and bullying to them.
@francescozenocchini4428
@francescozenocchini4428 4 ай бұрын
I remeber a few weeks ago while on the sci fi subreddit there was a post about Star Wars and all the comments about just hating everything about modern Star Wars. It drove me to the point of obsession and i said "I am done with Star Wars". But whiel watching your video i realized that i don't hate Star Wars. I hate the toxic fanbase that hate Star Wars. Toxic fans sadly exist in every fandom. Nobody is perfect by the end. However this donesn't mean that they can't produce good content. I want a new Star Wars trilogy that everyone enjoy. My ideal pick would be a trilogy set in the High Republic era.
@eesakhan6164
@eesakhan6164 23 күн бұрын
Imma be real, I lowkey respect Starwars for trying to change, but they keep fumbling becuase they aren't going all the way. Acolyte was in a weird grey area of being safe and dangeous so it was an all risk no reward, if they want people to like the new they have to go all in. They entered the risk area and stopped there before reaching the reward end
@jeremiahallen1647
@jeremiahallen1647 4 ай бұрын
How can you even disagree with this video. It’s perfect. It’s Star Wars. 🔥
@askdrsullivan
@askdrsullivan 3 ай бұрын
This is a masterpiece. After watching this and reflecting upon what Disney has done, I have come to the unavoidable conclusion that Star Wars is truly dead while it is a Disney possession.
@HenryLouis21
@HenryLouis21 3 ай бұрын
No it’s not, so far we’ve gotten good content from Disney.
@K.H6751
@K.H6751 3 ай бұрын
YES
@GrandMaster.Smile.
@GrandMaster.Smile. 4 ай бұрын
Dear George, I have to remind u to smth. "Do it or do it not. There is no try!" And that's what it was in the past, they just did it. Nowadays the try so hard to mimic it, but it ain't the real deal anymore... PEACE
@gergelyboros8138
@gergelyboros8138 3 ай бұрын
Everything since RotS is fan theory... aaan some of prequels too, like time pacing ..
@UltimateSpider1385
@UltimateSpider1385 4 ай бұрын
George Lucas used ancient mythologies to create the Star Wars franchise we know today before everything went to shit. George Lucas knew how to built the world of Star Wars through understanding Pleasure and joy because despite the wrongdoings and choices the Jedi and Sith have done, they still represent the concept of Selflessness, and not Selffishness which is what the Acolyte represents. There's no gray jedi, there's only Jedi and Sith. That's it. The jedi and sith represent the two sides of the same coin, Yin and Yang, Good and Evil, light and Dark. Anger isn't a justified motive, it's an absolute. Fear leads to the dark side, which leads to hate and to suffering. The Sith seek power and control, while the Jedi seek peace and justice. And the force seek balance.
@NovastarDoughnut
@NovastarDoughnut 4 ай бұрын
Yeah like... I dont think you're meant to look at mae's fall to the darkside as a good thing. Like the sith guy is clearly lying and manipulating and twisting the truth for what he wants, there's a layer on narituve double speak going on there. equally true for the stuff with luke in TLJ because you (as the audience) are meant to descern that what he is saying is wrong and him resigning himself on the island is a bad fate.
@covertTJ
@covertTJ 4 ай бұрын
Ironically, while I agree with what you're saying about Leslye not understanding the ethos of Star Wars, her show doesn't really contradict it. The Acolyte merely expands on issues fans and even characters within the stories have had with the Jedi which does paint them in a bad light, but those parts about them are true... from a certain point of view. They do use "persuasion" as an extension of the law to take children from their parents and raise them without a family. They are cult-like from an outside perspective. One of them did snap. Her Sith answered "what do you want?" with "the power of two." He is corrupted, but nuanced. Much like Maul. Much like Dooku. They don't see themselves as evil. They see the Jedi as self-righteous. Palpatine is the main "pure evil" Sith under George while many non-Force users are shown to be equally... Kallus. The Jedi did not defeat (former Jedi) Darth Tyranus or put a stop to (former Jedi) Darth Vader - the SITH who killed Tyranus. Obi Wan was strong enough in the Force to defeat him, but his emotional attachments stopped him. Qui-Gon did level up in The Force. Osha killing Sol did draw on the dark side as depicted by the bleeding of her crystal much like Anakin gaining snake eyes. The Acolyte is faithful to Star Wars under George Lucas, just told from a Sith perspective. George may have eventually done this himself since he felt every story needs to be totally different from all others. You can only tell the Jedi perspective so many ways. Still a good video though! Enjoyed it even if I disagree on key points.
@covertTJ
@covertTJ 4 ай бұрын
Also while the creators and cast may talk a lot about "grey Jedi," that term is never uttered in The Acolyte thank goodness. It's just their headcans.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 3 ай бұрын
Doesn’t change the fact Sith will still do evil no matter noble intentions the dark side corrupts Dooku and Anakin may think they are doing the right thing but that’s trap of the Sith makes you believe good is evil and evil is good. Dooku didn’t do any good at all as a Sith he started a war the Sith is all about selfishness and power for themselves. The force unleashed did the Sith perspective better than the Acolytes.
@covertTJ
@covertTJ 3 ай бұрын
​​@@jaieregilmore971yes and both Dooku and Anakin were pushed toward the dark side as direct results of the failings of the Jedi. Failings which one might argue are dark-sided themselves. Corruption, hubris. Representing government (tyranny) rather than following the will of the Force. The Acolyte didn't say the Sith weren't corrupted. Qimir is explicitly pursuing his own greed and giving into temptation. What I'm saying and the show is saying and the prequels were saying is that sometimes the Jedi do that too. Sometimes Jedi do that so much that they become Sith, even. How people call that unfaithful to Star Wars when a woman writes it is absurd to me because George himself wrote both Dooku and Anakin as fallen Jedi.
@edgaracajabon9522
@edgaracajabon9522 3 ай бұрын
Disney doesn't know about three virtue of Joy. They're all about the dark side. Fear anger and hate the dark side are they. Greed is part of the dark side as well
@johnjunior5389
@johnjunior5389 4 ай бұрын
dude that's my problem with star wars and modern writing in general they look what came before and instead of continuing it they say nah and mess it up
@nathanhenslee4395
@nathanhenslee4395 3 ай бұрын
how goes a good x men 2?
@kevinportillo9968
@kevinportillo9968 4 ай бұрын
i want to see the mod scooters again..... joking i think us star wars fans will be the catalyst for these studios to start to bring in better writing and most important writers that understand everything star wars.
@jefry8393
@jefry8393 4 ай бұрын
Its just heartbreaking for george that he basically sold his absoluelty precious baby to the darkside(disney) Doubly heartbreaking bcuz we the fans pushed the creator to sell
@astro-ko3cu
@astro-ko3cu 2 ай бұрын
The jedi were not the bad guys they were blinded not evil
@matthewk4912
@matthewk4912 5 күн бұрын
Exactly. But fans misinterpret George's point, saying that George wanted to show how morally wicked and corrupt the Jedi were in the prequels. If they actually did their research, they'd learn that George called the Jedi the "most moral of anybody in the galaxy," who were noble guardians of peace that were blinded and as a result, failed. But they never failed because they were evil, or because they weren't "Grey" and didn't use the dark side.
@ishaanbhattacharya9405
@ishaanbhattacharya9405 4 ай бұрын
Imo to save star wars, one animated series is essential which would be based on luke Skywalker after ep 6 to redeem Luke's charecter Or an animated trilogy set after ep 6 And other than this, they should go back or forward 100s or 1000s of yrs
@nightwinger234
@nightwinger234 4 ай бұрын
Moral relativism is favoured by people who do bad things. There is good and evil in the world and not understanding that IS bad. Not to say you should entirely obliterate your ability to understand someone's motives and try to connect with them on some human level, but failing to realise bad traits in others hurts you too. Choose goodness.
@morgancurran4837
@morgancurran4837 3 ай бұрын
I think The Acolyte's hate is unwarranted in my opinion and I relay liked the show and it should't be hated on and a lot of its world building is being built on what has already been establish in the High Republic comics and Novels so you should't be hating on Patty Jenkins she is a Star Wars fan like all of us and she is just building on to the already expansive world that is Star Wars like Dave Filoni and George Lucas before her so every one should stop hating on the Franchise they love and just be happy that there is more Star Wars like me. Also I relay love your stuff cant wait for Your X-Men 2 video I hope when we get the MCU X-Men they start with the original First Class then go to the Giant Sized and then the 90's Jim Lee line up.
@Radioeightyeight
@Radioeightyeight 3 ай бұрын
I think what you're missing is that Leslye is making the Dark Side less of a paper tiger, more understandable and therefore more meaningful and seductive. That it's not always as simple - that there are compelling motives for those who fall and that these passions can in turn be used against them. I really can't see how people fail to see this. Not to mention the story has barely begun.. and it's likely that it will end in tragedy for the main protagonists. It's a perfect reflection of the archetypally expressed life Lucas envisaged. The main protagonists haven't won anything - they're screwed, and they're going to struggle until they're destroyed. While the Jedi Order may well have produced truly good people, we also know for a fact that they are flawed from previous canon, - many far far more flawed than others - and that their involvement in politics has always been a bit of a weakness to their higher goals of transcendence in this way... It is this ambiguity that creates intrigue - and this ambiguity that creates a story to be told -and in turn also we the viewers to participate in meaningful self evaluation, rather than patting ourselves on the back for not being "like those mean evil guys who are obviously just selfish and no more" while we polish our good guy badges and allow evil horrific things to exist in the world.
@raedtoosy
@raedtoosy 4 ай бұрын
what i really want to see from star wars is less complaining from the "fans"
@edgaracajabon9522
@edgaracajabon9522 3 ай бұрын
The only way to save Star Wars is to snatch it away from Disney's hands
@baki484
@baki484 2 ай бұрын
You mean buy it? Unfortunately they bought it when George Lucas relinquished the IP.
@ingvarkarlson5982
@ingvarkarlson5982 3 ай бұрын
what I wanna see? lets go waaaaay back to the beginning of the jedi. explain the force that way,like George Lucas wanted.
@9493time
@9493time 4 ай бұрын
They need to reboot the series.
@DarthAlphaTheGreat
@DarthAlphaTheGreat 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think you can out do a Jedi/Sith story than Tales of the Jedi and then KOTOR (which came from that) from the EU. Many has attempted, including the original writers of Tales and KOTOR. None has succeeded.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 4 ай бұрын
Just curious has anyone realized this recent Acolyte project has the Least amount of Alien species? It's the least diverse Star Wars. It's mostly Humans. Also the locations are so bland & small. There are No impressive locations. There are no wide pan shots in this show. There are no interesting or complex environments. This world is so claustrophobic. The characters are so shallow. Places are so bland and the characters are so uninteresting We've been seeing such expensive projects, yet they are so terribly designed, terribly managed, Awful writing, awful world design, awful character development, poor aesthetics. So much now feels creatively bankrupt and I really hope we snap out of it and get back to making better things. Better games, better shows, better movies The Acolyte comes off so cheap & tacky.. It's not just the terrible writing & terrible acting. The whole thing is a complete self centered power trip.. It's horrible set design, horrible world building, horrible camera work. It all makes this show feel so small. Like it's filmed in a single green screen room.. Grasping at awful CGI techniques to try and force any bit of a false reality into this mess of a show. It's so far from Legitimate Star wars movies that it feels as if this whole thing is a big parody.. A very expensive parody.. These people have proven they are only capable of writing narcissistic stories that self insert themselves and their own beliefs into anything they do. Even if they get the opportunity to make something from a pre-existing beloved story, they cannot help themselves. They seem to be incapable of creating artistic creations that stray away from their own personal perspective. Instead of showing they are capable of leaning heavily into escapism and creative storytelling.. They have proven time and time again that they are not capable of doing anything even remotely close to that.. (which is weird because that should be one of the most important set of attributes that a movie director, or a actor has so they can be successful at their job....?) How is there no one that will fire these people who openly hate the fans, hate the consumers who made their success in the first place.. Compared to "The Acolyte" If you go back & watch "X-Men the Animated series" It was so well crafted. The story of the struggles of mutants having to deal with humanity was such a universally relatable storyline. Media back then was not afraid to face difficult topics head on. They found really unique ways to abstractly teach people life lessons. They touched on difficult situations & found intelligent ways to convey certain stories. Even when I was all grown up & rewatched it, it really felt like the story is crafted so well & executed at such a high level that anyone is capable of relating to it in someway or another. It's stuff like that, that we are deeply lacking nowadays. So much so that literal kid's cartoons from the 90's told deeper and more mature stories than most media nowadays. Stuff used to take pride in who can find the most creative ways to convey certain things. Who can give the audience certain feelings without overly explaining it. It used to not matter what kind of character, creature, species they were. What matters is that they found ways to convey artistic depictions of the Human condition. Creative ways that can connect us on a deeper level
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 ай бұрын
Honestly Star Wars being fixed is something that may not be possible due to many varying opinions on there series. As far as the Company i say choose a path and stick to it. Fall or Rise 😅 Ultimately the fans in this era I will say have become too toxic. Anybody can essentially say they're a fan and bring any negative viewpoint into popularity if given enough views. Not saying I like every project we're given but it's looking like a no win situation ultimately. No project hasn't had fans turn on them (Andor to me is too young to have that effect yet). Rogue One seems to be the last movie project since the 2000's that many seem to have enjoyed unanimously. I feel the prequel trilogy is the definitive proof on how flip floppy star wars fans were. To me personally they were my favorite (since they were my introduction to the franchise) but up to 5-7 yrs ago Fans constantly trashed it. And now in a weird turn of fate they've embraced the Prequels & Hayden Christensen 😅. That has to have been the wildest overhaul I've ever seen for a franchise 😂. But I do have a few ideas for stuff I would like to see: -Use Grogu as a character to tell future stories with. Dude can live centuries and is being set up to be the second coming of Mandalore The Ultimate - Don't be afraid to tell darker stories involving the Witches or Past Sith. Fans have been craving for it and it's like y'all just ignoring them unapologetically😅 - Bring Ben Solo back. Make Anakin as the Force God he is find a way to bring him back via him being a Dyad or something..Star Wars is nothing without the Skywalker family 🤷‍♂️ -Have multiple Jedi Orders and embrace Grey Jedi. It's like you guys are scared to make Grey Jedi a thing for some reason 😅. One of the things I disliked about how Disney handled Luke was that seemingly hopes of a Jedi order died with him. Personally I would like to see orders based off of Ahsoka (Ezra , Sabine etc) , Cal Kestis , and Rey new order. But please just bring back the order😭
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 4 ай бұрын
Gray Jedi are not a real thing
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheMinskyTerroristnot yet in canon but if they choose to do so it can be. They literally been showing multiple Jedi not looking to pursue the rigid path of the former Jedi order(Ahsoka, Cal, Grogu, Sabine etc)
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 4 ай бұрын
@@trehubb6144 That didn't happen
@NovastarDoughnut
@NovastarDoughnut 4 ай бұрын
I think If we want a new iteration of the jedi order that harkens to grey jedi(ish) ideas without misunderstanding the point, the best way to go is to make the jedi like... travelling ronin, mentors, and teachers thar pass on the knowledge but without the temples and extravagance. Instead of taking children to become jedi, they teach to anyone who wishes to learn.
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 4 ай бұрын
@NovastarDoughnut That’s literally how the Jedi were before 1999 and it has nothing to do with "gray" nonsense. But they still had some buildings and places to meet.
@DarthAlphaTheGreat
@DarthAlphaTheGreat 4 ай бұрын
Jedis in the prequel sucks let’s be honest. But then Clone Wars made them look great. That speaks on Lucas’s biggest flaw. His ideas are not the problem. His directing and scripting is. Get a good director and script writer, then you will get the OT again.
@malcolmroache3854
@malcolmroache3854 4 ай бұрын
I haven't seen any live action SW projects since the new Trilogy. I liked some small things about the trilogy but overall doesn't do it for me. I haven't seen any of the shows because again no interest. Acolyte sound promising and I should've given it a shot but didn't pull me in. Only aspect of SW I care about is their animation projects because they are fire. Clone Wars, 2003 series, Bad Batch, and Visions. I tune in because I know it's going to be good. The writing feels as if they care. Tales of Jedi gets me pumped every time despite it falling short. I treat that series like What If of Marvel. Has some good moments but could be a lot better. Overall SW needs to get back to where writers care.
@jefry8393
@jefry8393 4 ай бұрын
15:04 lmao she almost said store wars A true star wars fan, she is NOT
@TheophilusBartholemew
@TheophilusBartholemew 4 ай бұрын
Hi Mitch, great video, you seem to be really taken with stoicism lately. My question, as a christian, is, do you take the stoic pantheistic view of God? if not, what is your view? Thanks.
@davidmiddleton7958
@davidmiddleton7958 11 күн бұрын
As I have stated on many vids covering this topic. Star Wars died the day George Lucas sold the franchise! The only other thing to do is for Dismal Disney/Lucas Fluffs up to shut up shop!
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 4 ай бұрын
The problem with Star Wars nowadays is that it loosing it mythicism add more content just makes it bloated. Honestly the Disney trilogy failed for me because it tried to continue a story that’s already finished the return of the Jedi felt like the happy ending to the 6 films and the Disney trilogy just a rehash anti trilogy to the OT. The acolytes tried to make the Jedi look bad but it failed as for the high republic doesn’t seem that peaceful when the Jedi and the republic attack by space raiders. Knights of the old republic 2 did the critique of the force,Jedi and Sith way better than the Acolytes and TLJ tried to do.
@NoirNameless
@NoirNameless 4 ай бұрын
Jump ahead 1000 years so that nothing that came before you can use as nostalgia to feed on, and start a new saga with completely new characters. Get a writers room full of the best writers you can to work for a couple of years on it, and have the main character be an alien or cyborg. Not saying this alone will fix it, but announcing something like this would garner intrigue, and that’s what they need right now. Genuine shock that they’re doing putting forth the effort to do something completely new and fresh can at least get people saying “Hm. Alright. Sounds interesting. We’ll see”. And if you get writers people know and love work from, it’ll be that much more intriguing. This shouldn’t be hard. Disney/Lucasfilm are just control freaks that view IP as content. Not as things people love. 🤷🏾‍♂️
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