Miter Saw Dust Collection || Dust hood and Cyclone

[@A6Legit]

Sliding doors is by far the best idea ive seen. You might have just saved me from making an inferior dust hood, thanks! Lol. Literally was going to make one today and glad I came across this.

[@pwknight7]

Welcome to the club of hose mis- direction. I have had cyclones for years and still remember when I first connected it to the vacuum. Yep, hoses on the wrong ports. Easily done but but now we how the cyclone works don't we? I am still looking to reduce the dust on my mitre saw even further. Well done using the particle monitor, I do the same to keep an eye on small particle levels when using my tools in the workshop. Keep up the great videos. PK from Australia.

[@lint2023]

That's the smartest chop saw dust collection box I have ever seen. Sliding doors! I bet there are lots of palm-forehead-slaps going on right now. BTW - straight flute drills including the stepped drills that are everywhere now work wonders for drilling through thin materials without grabbing. I didn't see your drill grab the bucket lid but I like to share this when I see thin materials drilled.

[@DIYMontreal]

Lol thanks! I can just picture that ;) I think I slapped my own forehead when the idea hit me, so I can totally relate!

[@alpscraftshack599]

Content de te revoir Marie. Bonnes vacances à toi.

[@DIYMontreal]

Merci!

[@marquisbois990]

Sliding and profiled doors. Now why didn’t I think of that! Modifications start tomorrow...thank’s for the inspire!

[@DIYMontreal]

The sliding doors are probably my favourite feature. Just makes it easier!

[@russhamel]

Awesome. My daughter will be moving out of our two bedroom condo soon and her room will be my permanent shop. Can't wait to be able to contain all that dust! Current projects have pretty much come to a standstill because the house cleanup takes about as long as the project! Right now I'm just using a backdrop so the dust is limited in how far it can fly off. I will definitely revisit your system when I take over my permanent space. And yes, the Cyclone is fabulous. I can't imagine what it would be like without it. I put a trash can liner in my Cyclone bucket for easier clean up. Open, lift, tie, toss, DONE! Thanks for the links for hoses and adapters. Wish I knew this when I first got the Cyclone. This was the most frustrating part as I move my Cyclone around to all my saws and router, each with a different size adapter. YIKES! And as others mentioned, thanks for sharing all the other really useful gadgets. Love your work! All the best from Toronto, Russ

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks Russ! Agreed that finding the right hoses and adapters is the most frustrating part, so just trying to lend a helping hand! As for using your daughter's old room... You'll definitely need to optimise dust collection!! Hopefully this will help with that. Best of luck!

[@Acheron2010]

Awesome build idea. I just purchased a miter saw...I see this as a future project. Thanks!

[@nicolassimard5847]

What an awesome idea ! That gives you opportunity to easily remove doors and clean up the inside whenever you need to. Also, 4" hole at the bottom and connected to a central dust collection system would capture a lot more particles. I also really like the extension wing, gives you the support you need for long pieces without the need for building an extra long station. Well done !

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks! Agreed with the 4" connected to the dust collector. That would mean having a hose on the floor (trip hazard) for me, so it's not in the plans for now, but maybe one day if I pipe out my dust collection.

[@barryroberts6470]

Great build Marie, when i saw the cover i thought 'oh here we go again, another cover' reason being is i have seen covers around saws before, but this is the first time i have seen one with sliding doors on it, and i have to say it's a great idea. Love the concept of it and the build as well so well done on a great idea. Barry (ENG)

[@DIYMontreal]

lol I hear you Barry! That was my thought going into the project... I can't just make another cover.. how can I improve it...? Glad I seem to have succeeded! :-)

[@davidnorton9997]

Love the sliding doors! What a great idea. I'm going to be building a miter saw station this coming year. Definitely be using this. Subscribed.

[@Brownstone31]

I love the sliding door idea.

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks!

[@petersholzbude7760]

Coole Konstruktion Marie, Danke für die Idee.😉 LG Peter

[@tonym2328]

Excellent build! Thank you. One issue I have had is with the cyclone dust collector bucket. Sometimes, the Shop Vac pulls enough air to collapse the bucket. To remedy this, simply drop the initial bucket into another bucket (no gluing, no connecting, just drop it in), and no more collapse. It works well, I have not had them collapse in over 6 months since I doubled them up.

[@CG_Hali]

Love your solutions. I highly recommend a gamma seal for any cyclone! You unscrew it off instead of battling the cover. It works on 5 gallon buckets. Love mine!

[@kevin_delgado]

I have a Bosch Axial Glide as well and like pretty much all miter saws, the dust collection is not great. Glad you found a solution that works for you. As an alternative to the cyclone that you show, HD sells something called the Dustopper, which replaces the lid of any standard 5 gallon bucket and doesn't require any work to install like that cyclone. I bought it because I'm lazy, but it works well. It's usually cheaper than the dust deputy as well. YMMV.

[@DIYMontreal]

The duststopper is on option, but I could not find it at HD where I live. Not sure they sell it in Canada, at least not Quebec. It's definitely the simplest solution, but tests show that the cyclone is more effective. It's a good easy and cost effective alternative though.

[@erikgoltzer326]

I’m envious of your skill and shop. I am an amateur at this. Watching videos by some of you experts is inspiring. Thanks for sharing.

[@twalsh1490]

I use a similar setup for direct dust collection from miter saw, with the Dust Deputy, iVac switch, and Ridgid shop vac. That's a great vac. Mine is ten years old, still going strong, and it was not expensive at Home Depot. Dust Deputy collects most debris. A DIY wooden box with a sliding door can have as much volume as the orange bucket and with a lower profile for better clearance. It must be a sturdy box since that Ridgid vac pulls a lot of suction. The iVac switch works great. I have one on the miter saw and another on the grinder, but only the one Dust Deputy on the miter saw. You took it two steps further, using the dust monitor and the housing for the saw itself. Good thinking.

[@DIYMontreal]

I like the wooden box idea but wonder how to create a box with a tight seal that still has an easy removal lid. Any thoughts?

[@twalsh1490]

Try building the box like a very strong drawer with a bottom that slides into dadoes. The sliding "bottom panel" can be on the bottom like a drawer, on one side, or even the top. The thin plywood typical of drawer bottoms is not beefy enough for a dust box because a good shop vac is strong. As long as the rest of the joints are tight, the sliding panel will be pretty tight under vacuum, which pulls it together. A hinged panel works, too, because the vacuum will pull it tight. The configuration of the lip could be anything that looks interesting to the maker. On a much larger chip collector for a planer I used a weather seal strip between the box and the lid, which lifted off. That was great for sealing the box but then the lid stuck to the seal. After a few sessions with a screwdriver to get them apart each time it needed emptying, the seal was probably no tighter than some nice joinery like a half-lap lip would have been. It still worked fine. On several dust collection boxes I used window locks to lock the lid down firmly. The "Everbilt Window Sash Lock with Tight Seal" worked very well, for less than $4 at the orange big box store. Just mount it so it pulls the lid into the box. Compression from ordinary window locks might be enough but usually my box configuration didn't work for them. Again, the internal vacuum will pull the lid tighter. You just don't want some annoying whistling noise while you're working. The vac is loud enough already. Depending on the wood you're cutting, the dust can itself be a hazard, aside from the particulate count in the air (which you showed so compellingly). Wood dust that is inherently hazardous is another reason to collect it to start with. So, why be exposed to it again when emptying the container? If your container has a lift-off lid, a plastic bag can hold the debris for dust-free disposal. However, a simple plastic bag does not work as a liner because the vacuum pulls the bag up into the outlet. If you put a heavy object inside the liner bag then the plastic behaves nicely. Cut a heavy piece of plywood in the shape of the container, a half inch smaller than the container's inner dimensions. Or glue something heavy to a light piece of ply. It's easy to forget the liner weight at the bottom of the bag at disposal time. Tying a string to it makes it easy to get the liner out of the bag without having to dig around in that hazardous old dust. Something a little lighter than paracord may be thin enough and soft enough to just close the lid on it, leaving one end to hang outside where it is easily seen and remembered. Or, just consider the piece inside the bag to be disposable. Scrap drywall works for that. If a five-gallon bucket fits, putting the Dust Deputy on the bucket lid, as you did, is much faster than building a box. It quickly gets inconveniently tall with the bucket, the Deputy, and the vac hose curling out from the top of the tower. But it's fast, and it works great. Sorry about the long reply. It was a great question.

Love the sliding doors! Good job.👍

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks!

[@CanukWoodChuck]

Marie Great project. You may find if you extend the flexible rubber boot on the saw the dust collected will improve dramatically. There are certain times when the extension is in the way but it does help significantly

[@DIYMontreal]

Yes, I've seen that done before, but they never seem quite right. Maybe an upgrade idea for one day down the line.

[@pollyrobinson3877]

Absolutely just what I’ve been looking for!

[@ivanr.2940]

Vous êtes une femme qui m'inspire. Merci pour vos conseils!

[@collin_builds]

I’ve never seen anyone do so sliding doors for their miter saw, what a simple and elegant design

[@DIYMontreal]

Thank you so much!

[@QW3RTY9999]

Epic stuff! Gave me some ideas for my setup, thanks!

[@christopherfairfowl5521]

I’m going to build this for my saw, the only improvement I can think of is a piece of hanging material (like a curtain) behind the door to close the dust in a little more. Brilliant idea and you have highlighted a few problems that need addressing. Inspirational 👍

[@GageDrums]

The improvement this really needs is a port at the bottom of the stand the saw sits on for an actual dust collector to pull the dust through that is missed by the vacuum

[@chrisp.76]

Great engineering! Thanks for this video.

[@vladvippishoulski1267]

Toujours un plaisir.

[@DIYMontreal]

Merci!

[@KyleVeatch]

I'm planning my miter station build and I really like your design the best. I like this way better than magnets and I like that you can just add it on at any point.

[@rogerbender5965]

Just watched your video (October of 23) the best idea to fit my saw. And I have a 6x6 post on the right side.

[@TheGrantAlexander]

Love the sliding doors! Great job Marie 👍

[@DIYMontreal]

Thank you kindly!

[@lawman1965]

I've just used your plans to build a mitre station (mirror image to yours) minus the press drill - I don't own one but I've left space for a module for a press drill. My first ever large build. My dust hood is pants though - I'm so fed up with the dust it throws out. I'm using a Scheppach dust collector for down draft under the bench with a 100mm hose connected to a 100mm flanged spigot. But, I still have to connect my shop vac to the dust port on my saw. I can see whats happening - the majority of the dust goes up the port to the shop vac, some sprays out back and side and gets caught in the down draft and into the Scheppach unit. But, a good old chunk of dust hits the saw and sprays back into the room. I really like your idea of the sliding doors. I was planning a new hood and this has given me ideas. Thanks.

[@GrumpysWorkshop4]

Love the sliding doors on the dust hood. Gonna do that on mine

[@DIYMontreal]

Nice! Glad I could inspire :-)

[@katekeough9819]

GREAT VIDEO I love the sliding door idea thanks for posting capergirl🇨🇦

[@stripermanly]

Great job on your hood.

[@jimmyjackson2361]

Always enjoy your videos. Thank you!

[@MORGAN31ish]

Thanks for the great ideas 💡 👍 😀

[@stormman8393]

That is a really great idea and well presented

[@sumosprojects]

Sliding doors a clever idea, I was contemplating enclosing mine but I’m happy with the fact dust don’t fall on the floor anymore 🤠

[@archiem6323]

You are amazing at what you do. Great job!

[@DIYMontreal]

Thank you so much! 🙏

[@normanbott]

I'll need to do something like that when I implement your mitre saw station design later this month. I experimented with modifying a cheap flexible 'hood' hacked from a leaf-collector , actually ignoring the saw's dust port and venting the 'hood' itself via a 63 mm dia. hose connected to the vac. Worked better for me than using the saw's port. The vac's a TREND T30 AF I've had for years with in-built power switching. Nice video as always. You know I'd probably have connected that cyclone that way round too, it looks more intuitive !

[@DIYMontreal]

I debated a few different ways of doing this, and a single dust hood with exhaust port was one of them. Not with a leaf collector though ;-) There are many options to experiment with. I find that at least the dust that doesn't get sucked up will get trapped, so at least I'm not constantly cleaning my workbench!.

[@wraith2440]

Thanks very much. This is great and I intend to try it on my miter saw.

[@jeanloreaud9282]

Très joli travail bravo salut Jeannot 🛠😉

[@DIYMontreal]

Et encore merci Jeannot! :-)

[@CB71SS]

Although I am doing all my wood work outside right now I plan on getting 14 X 24 shed in the spring the dust monitor will be one of my first things to get, thanks for the link to that also like the sliding door. It is also good to see that if you make a mistake you admit it and say what you did wrong. I have seen some videos that a person does something wrong, doesn't say anything then later on in the video you see a change. Like all your videos.

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks! Nothing wrong with making mistakes in my book, that's how we learn. From my research (and video from @Jay Bates - woodworking videos) this is the most reliable particle monitor for the price range. I highly recommend based on my experience with it so far.

[@CB71SS]

@@DIYMontreal Jay Bates' video where he made a bench out of 8 2 X 4's is what got me started, so of snow balled from there , lol. I really enjoy working with wood.

[@IEnjoyCreatingVideos]

Good job Marie! Thank you for sharing the video with us.👌👍😎JP

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks JP, hope the video comes in handy.

[@IEnjoyCreatingVideos]

Your very welcome Marie! Have a great week! 😎

[@billm4560]

Thanks Marie for sharing another awesome build! 👏👏 After watching this I need to redo mine! 😊

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks, I that means I did something right! ;-)

[@Bay444444]

Sliding door is brilliant solution. Next I’m looking for something to solve the below table dust issue on table saws - how about tackling that Marie?

[@dupeaccount1647]

Nice build, going to try something similar with my... well I don't have a miter saw, but was gifted a radial arm saw.

[@HomeImprovementWoodworking]

This is similar to my video, but I use a dust collector, which pulls the dust into the box. I've used this setup for almost 20 years and it works well. Nice work on your build and video editing. I subscribed! Scott

[@jigsey.]

Sliding doors is a great idea, may one borrow your idea ms Montreal 😊

[@DIYMontreal]

Go for it! Happy to share the ideas. 😊

[@KenpoMoogy]

good stuff! this is the second video of yours I'm using for my shop. Thanks!!!

[@DIYMontreal]

Happy to hear that! Thanks :-)

[@andymckenzie8031]

Very nice! I'm in the process of rebuilding my shop, and I've been trying to figure out how to do collection for my chop saw. This is a pretty solid candidate!

[@germanpaz8184]

Thank you! Your videos are of great help, it shows the steps to avoid, as we find out some good ideas do not work as planned. Wonder if it would help if the encased area had a melamine or slippery surface, maybe dust collection improves a bit? Raw wood seems to be harder to keep clean, in my shop anyway. Thanks again!

[@andrewbieger5004]

Awesome build. I modified your concept for my DeWalt MS, but the basics are the same. I sealed the gaps between the lower rails and the side of MS base to help in the air flow, and it makes a HUGE difference in the dust containment. With fairly slow cuts, I get at least 90% captured, especially the finer stuff. As someone else posted below, a curtain (or rubber flap in strips) hanging down from the middle might help. That will be my next mod.

[@pathardage1880]

Love it. Great Idea. Thank you.

[@KangaBear99]

Thanks for that. I enjoyed the slide options for mitre cuts. I now will watch all your Videos. Thanks again from Down under.

[@steenfraosterbro3268]

Best hood I have seen on YT. Sliding doors are brilliant.

[@SpareroomWoodworking]

I have the 12" version of this saw and dust collection is woeful. I really like the simplicity of your sliding door design - my weekend project has been found :)

[@jeffhorovitz8663]

I just bought the 12 inch version of this as well, and was wondering if you follow the same plans for the sliding door? I am new at this, and I am very confused about burying the knobs for the fence.

Hello my friend. That's a good idea. I have to do a miter saw dust collection. Because it produces a lot of dust and sawdust. Thank you for sharing. Great greetings.

[@DIYMontreal]

Thank you and it's my pleasure!

@@DIYMontreal 😃🙏

[@franckcdu1252]

Merci pour ce partage, vous faites un travail remarquable, je vais m'inspirer de votre dispositif pour aménager le mien avec ma Bosch qui produit également beaucoup de particules malgré un système de double aspiration, la hotte semble indispensable, j'écris en français car vous devez être bilingue. Cordialement.

[@mikeandlucky]

Thanks for your excellent channel. I have been looking for a dust collection solution for my miter saw as it is obviously creates way too much dust using just the factory supplied solution. Great ingenuity and creativity with the sliding doors.

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks, Glad to help!

[@johnmanfra4224]

Have you thought about adding a short hose off of the current hose. Attaching it to a hose in the bottom of the box. So what ever dust ends up on the box gets sucked into that second hose?

[@Finewoodworkingofsc]

Great video as always. A project well worth the effort to improve dust collection.

[@DIYMontreal]

Agreed! This was long time overdue.

[@jfsantos33]

Excellent vidéo, cela me donne de l'inspiration pour m'attaquer a ma future station!

[@rrmerlin3402]

Instead of notching for the red screw that secures the fence. I replaced it with M6-1.0 x 12 metric screw, so only a very small notch is needed. A M6-1.0 x 10 would be perfect. Great video.

[@grandtrunk49]

Great job.

[@alpscraftshack599]

Bon travail Marie. Je prévois de faire la boîte avec la capacité de collecte de poussière ajoutée à elle.

[@DIYMontreal]

Super, ça fait toute une différence!

[@tommycat904]

Great tips

[@leslieesparza4697]

You are the coolest.

[@saveapossum7195]

Love this!

[@floots21]

Great video keep up the good work! However, you might need to adjust the fences for bevel cuts

[@darrylcrum2495]

Screw it. I am just going to put it out there for all to see - you are fantastic. Thank you for sharing this. I cannot wait to copy everything you did. Now, about the thicknesser planer I am getting for Christmas. Any ideas on how to keep the chips from that thing from breaking stuff? (okay, I exaggerate, but still)

[@shophacks]

Glad to see that you used the Dylos to make an objective comparison. If you close up the remaining gaps with some PVC shower curtain plastic I think you will see the particle counts drop to under 1000 or so with the same cuts. As always, great video and nice work. Do you plan to go to Workbenchcon? You should really consider going if you aren't already. You have a great channel and WBC is a great way to connect with other content creators and learn a lot too. Thanks for sharing!

[@DIYMontreal]

I was just reading another comment about adding bristles or pvc to close the gaps. While I can see how that might help, I personally feel I would get annoyed by the material flapping around and be concerned of something getting caught in the blade. I suppose it would be worth experimenting with. As for WBC, I went the last 2 years but not sure if I'll make it out this year. We'll see!

[@molinafranco2103]

MUY BIEN REALIZADO ...

[@davidbuchan2224]

genius!!! And love the honest commentary... that saw is a monster! I only have a small dewalt - 216mm blade - is there any accuracy improvement with a bigger saw?

[@Kkuts37]

NICE!

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks!

[@Terrythemaker]

I’ve just finished making my mitre saw station, so I think I will make one of these over the weekend. Great video as always 👍

[@hsuoscar]

Love your shop projects! Quite useful for newbies. I like the fact there is plan available for shop project with detail cutting lists so I can plan ahead and make sure plywoodsheets fit in my SUV. Very thoughtful! Just curious about the Amzon links... why they always link to Amazon in the US?

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks, appreciate it! The US links are simply because the majority of my audience are US based.

[@woodsniffer]

thanks for posting I see the 35 mm adapter for the Bosch but where did you find the 90 degree adapter. My Bosch is brand new and has the bag and red retainer clips built in to that 90 degree.

[@jakematic]

Love the sliding doors ! Don't feel bad about the cyclone - when I moved one of mine, not only did I hook it up wrong, the hose accidentally got put into the exhaust port of the vac. Turning it on the first time it was baffling as to why there was air and dust coming _out_ of the saw 🤣

[@DIYMontreal]

LOL thanks for making me feel better ;-)

[@MCsCreations]

Really fantastic work! 😃 Soon I may have to make something like that... I don't have a miter saw yet, but I'm going to start building my space soon. 😬

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks! One step at a time. You'll get there 👍

[@jairsouza7108]

Muito bom! 🇧🇷

[@woodcraftbynieves]

Do you have plans for the hood? Thanks!

[@gadgetfellow]

love it

[@Hansaman58]

You have (at last as of this video) a 10” Bosch saw. Will the hose adapter work on the Bosch GCM12SD, the 12” model? Thank you Marie!

[@paddlepower888]

Well organized video. Love how you quantified the deterioration and improvement of air quality. The doors are great. Have you already cut separate doors for mitered cuts? Thanks!

[@DIYMontreal]

Thanks, appreciate it! I don't make that many mitered cuts but when I do, I simply slide open the doors.

[@salense1]

Fantástico

[@Mordred38]

Thank you for the video ! very nice, I will do that on mine too :) ! I think I will had some brush from broom ou stuf like that near the motor and the handle and some moving parts, like a curtain, I hope it could help to reduce particles or dust

[@DIYMontreal]

Yeah a curtain near the motor might improve things marginally. Near the handle would just annoy me personally! And I'm fearful of having things flapping around that might get caught in the blade. Something to experiment with though. There is definitely room for improvement.

[@Diegojuarez1987]

Nice i have the same miter saw this will work perfectly fine! May i ask how you build or bought the zero clearance insert. Thanks in advance! Great video!!

[@DIYMontreal]

The zero clearance is a simple piece of tape made for this application. Check it out here: www.amazon.com/dp/B07C68GTVK/?ref=exp_diymontreal_dp_vv_mw

[@Diegojuarez1987]

DIY Montreal thanks!

[@jeffhorovitz8663]

I’m just setting up my workshop and new to woodworking and this looks like something I can handle. The biggest issue I can see is that I don’t have a tablesaw to make those Whatever you call it cuts for the sliding doors that I want. Lol.

[@10secondnerd]

Great video! Would a vacuum port inside the hood help?

[@DIYMontreal]

Probably, but would require a second shop vac hookup, or maybe one day I'll hook up my dust collector to the box. That would be ideal.

[@x10derebel]

Sliding doors = genius

[@DIYMontreal]

Ha thanks! 😊

[@scottroy6195]

I'm curious if you could have your second vacuum just plug into the bottom of the box causing the dust to go in.

[@betrpony]

does that hood have enough clearance for compound miter cuts?

[@andrewtracywharmby4997]

Did you use 1/4” thick board? Thank You. I’m making one 👍

[@omaromar-lg3yu]

Bravo...

[@cabman86]

I would add a dust port to the bottom of the table to catch what the hose doesn't.

[@christopherdekonstrukt444]

Do you have power problems when using the dust separator and Bosch mitre saw at the same time? I have a single 20A breaker on all the outlets in that room.

[@DIYMontreal]

No it's never tripped the braker.

[@roberthardy7812]

Est-ce que le cyclone permet de ne pas mettre de sac dans la ShopVac? Merci

[@DIYMontreal]

Je n'ai jamais eu de sac dans ma shop vac alors je suppose que ça dépend du filtre, mais en principe oui. Toute la poussière ou presque tombera dans la chaudière du cyclone.

[@kamleo1685]

Was there much difference in the particle count after you properly hooked up the cyclone?

[@DIYMontreal]

Reduced by almost half! It was down to about 3500.

[@lisahummel7795]

Hi, I am trying to figure out if I want to get that miter saw or the cruzer. Do you like yours? Would appreciate your thoughts.

[@6980869]

Hey there, nice build! I’m wondering if you or anybody else had the same issue w/the dust deputy as I did (although I’m guessing “no” for you, since you didnt mention it). I had my HD bucket collapse in when using the cyclone separator, but was fortunate enough to have a metal bucket that my modified lid was able to fit on, and Voilá! No more suction cave-ins! My seal on that lid was enhanced when i added silicone underneath that gasket, as well as around the nuts and bolts, on top as well as underneath. I wonder how well your seal is, or anywhere along the hose connections, as ANY leakage will drastically decrease its efficiency. I’m also wondering if your smaller bucket also made a difference in its ability to withstand the vacuum suction force. Thanks for sharing this! Aloha....😊

[@DIYMontreal]

This is my first experience with a cyclone and no issues with collapse so far. Perhaps because of the smaller bucket. For the larger bucket, they recommend using 2 buckets pilled together to prevent cave in. My seal seems good but I think I could make it better with silicone. Perhaps I'll make that modification down the line but for now I am satisfied.