Miter Saw Dust Collection SOLVED!

[@NelsonWillis-kt8ck]

I bought this mitre saw in June 2014, and I remodeled my basement with it. It it sturdy and it works great kzbin.infoUgkxKL3MYO42eA2JbKxs7_Q0tmRGZI4Ow4Ar . There's not a lot of extra play in the adjustments and it is definitely well built. It is lighter than higher-end sliding double bevel models, so I can move it myself, which is nice. When I had to cut 2x10 lumber, I had to flip the boards over and cut twice; but since most of my cutting was on smaller dimension lumber, the weight reduction and significantly lower price seemed to be a better trade off for the boards I did have to flip. Late in the project, I was able to borrow a DW718, and the sliding feature does make fast work of 2x10s, but it is a tank, and I stand by my choice of the DW715. I also added a laser guide (one of the arbor replacement style sold on Amazon), which is nice to have, but definitely not needed.

[@rp6732]

I agree. he shows an impressive system. One big improvement to his system would be a disposable bag or flexible material that could either hang underneath or in some other location around that tight area of the miter saw contact section, because (1) for the average DIYer this is pretty damn complicated, and (2) There’s gotta be another way to clean out this system once it gets clogged up rather than dismantling every little part.

[@robertivey3268]

This is the best solution I have seen. Quite a few KZbin channels are making plastic printed units that seem to work well but most of us do not have 3D printers. Once my shop is finished, I am going to do the same as this one. I was so impressed that you have a new subscriber. Very well done.

[@carlpetitt2241]

Great build and glad to see it's yielding good results. One thing to mention -- large DC's like yours move a high volume of air but don't have a lot of suction force (static pressure). You reduce the 4" down to 2.5" and then also split the reduced flow into 2 separate hoses. This will really reduce your overall suction. I would suggest eliminating the reducer and splitting the 4" into two 2.5" hoses. That will improve both suction and flow volume. I went a step further with mine and put a dedicated shop vac underneath the cabinet and hosed up to the back of my Kapex. Shop vacs move less volume but have WAY WAY more suction power than a DC. Just food for thought. All the best!

[@chanel45151]

Really a strong start. As an engineer I was thinking same concept as you tested out vs the big hoods. Small air box keeps up velocity. Nice work.

[@BigTrainBuff]

Maybe the best one I’ve seen for straight cuts. I have a Bosch and do a lot of angle and bevel cuts. I found that the best overall collection method is to use the factory hose connector and attach a flexible cowl at the dust intake to channel the dust. It drags a little over the cut piece as the cut is made, but always stays behind the blade. No changes have to be made when switching from straight cuts. It’s about 95% effective.

[@stevenaranjo8484]

BigTrainBuff: could you send a photo of your setup - I too do a lot of angled miter cuts and need something more flexible. Patriot DIY, great video and idea!

[@jameskirk3]

Check out the one Izzy Swan uses on his Bosch slider

[@davidahart2476]

Great video, I'm disabled and just doing small diy projects ie birdhouses and bird feeders as a hobby. I did inherit some of my dad wood working tools, I like the box you made and I'm going to try to build one to work with my craftsman miter saw. I don't have a large dust collection system just a dust deputy and my dad 6hp shop vac. but I was impressed with your results.

[@bluntforcetraumaproduction4567]

ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS ON THE NET BRO! SERIOUSLY.... IF YOU JUST STROLLED UP TO ANY CEO OF ANY SAW MANUFACTURER, YOU COULD GET PAYED BROTHER!

[@CogentConsult]

Fantastic idea! Millions of us are now going to adopt and apply this idea to our own miter saws. Thank you! One critique: the background music was completely unnecessary and was distracting. Keep up the good work!

[@patrickgleason2503]

I recently built a similar set up for my DeWalt. Totally inspired by this video. Thanks for the inspiration and example! My lungs thank you too!!

[@hortonao]

Great video and solution. I purchased one of these dust shrouds that surrounds the saw but it really doesn’t help direct or collect the dust like I need it to. I cut a lot of MDF so I really need it to work well. I’m going to give this a go. It’s one of the better designs I’ve seen 🏆 Thanks!!

[@cadthunkin]

Can't wait to see Shop Nation add side vacuum to his collectors. Good job on your prototype, made without a 3d printer no less.

[@randymarshall1267]

Very good job. Well thought out and planned. You earned this new sub. I've been a carpenter for almost 40 years and ,man I'm impressed. This is the next project.

[@ronstudd3788]

Exceptionally well done! Elegant, yet simple!

[@wcraft]

Try a couple pieces of flexible rubber to extend each side of the stock dust chute down closer to the blade. You might find that improves overall dust collection while allowing at least some degree of miter/compound miter movement of the saw. Anything is something on these saws, especially in a shop setting. Nice project.

[@danhermann2603]

I can’t wait to start working in mine. Very good job!

[@RXRSawdustStation]

Great job on a mostly perpetual and perplexing problem! Good work!

[@jodywade9089]

Stellar solution for the shops dust demon. I'm making mine today. Thanks for the step by step video.

[@RJSDZNS]

Holy crap! I have that same saw! Different dust collection system but im building a new miter station this weekend. Ill be building a collection box while im at it!! Thank you!!!

[@JoshWrightWoodworking]

Dude, This i genius! I'm definitely gonna make one of these for my miter saw

[@bollera.bolljr2414]

Great idea , well thought out .The only problem is it's only good for 90 degree cuts .I suppose others could be made to accommodate various angles Nice !

[@JLRWoodCreations]

Nice collection box. Like the results! Easy solution. To collect with angle cuts, two more boxes just the same, but with cuts for 45 degrees left and 45 degrees right.

[@deejayblast4me]

This is amazing solution. To make it an "ultimate" dust collection you can even incorporate a down draft part on the miter saw base. Like a pegboard top with suction below. New subscriber! Love your videos. Very clean designs and affordable equipment so its more relatable.

[@patmason7276]

Awesome design that by itself would be worth it.

[@Ted_James]

Brilliant idea! This is going to be my next project.

[@Scritley]

Great tutorial! I can't wait to build my own later today. Thanks!

[@jreed1949]

I made one like it last year but my hose was at a 45. Worked very well. Thanks

[@ken1817]

Thanks for this dust collector project. Works great, collected about 98% of the dust from my saw.

[@jeffsaxvik1294]

I love this video because I have the exact same saw and jigsaw that you have so I am going to attempt to make this. One drawback is that I tried to cut some metal one time helping my son and I broke a little piece off of that initial dust chute so will have to improvise there a bit

[@5Towaways]

Looks like i found the solution to my problem! Excellent work!

[@nathanb3606]

Neat little gadget. I guess this is great if you are only making straight cuts. Misses the point of the angles and bevels of the mitre saw though. Thanks for sharing!

[@ken-e-ken]

I like this clever solution! I suspect it doesn’t work as well if you make sliding/gliding cuts. Also, as mentioned in video, doesn’t work for angled cuts. But for straight up chop cuts, this is ingenious.

[@brettbarager9101]

Great idea. Need to figure out how to make one for a sliding mitre saw.

[@slvice14]

Thanks for posting this. This design gives me hope for my miter saw!

[@danielorr2972]

Great! I am going to make one for my 12" Dewalt compound saw.

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

That is a huge difference great work dude

[@donovancampbell7785]

Every little bit helps. Thanks for the video!

[@richardkuestersteffen3782]

Love it. I'm considering adding a seperate piece that would pivit with the saw that alows the me to keep the zero clearance with infinte angles.

[@RogerVanParys]

Best solution yet! Great job! Thanks!

[@RonHoopes-f6c]

Great idea, I liked your presentation, going to try it myself

[@ericeinsmann5559]

Nice video! Looks like you have a newer version of the miter saw that I have (clean and no rust). I might have to build one of those for my miter saw.. I do have an idea for angle and bevel cuts.. Since the box you built is flush with the metal fence on the saw, why not try a sacrificial fence? If it's a specific cut you do frequently, save it for future use.

[@richardh1764]

I was about to do the big box on the back thing but will definitely give this a go instead

[@tommcdonald1746]

I have watched several videos trying to solve the miter saw dust problem, and this is the best I've seen. One person commented that drilling some holes and or slots in the top plate and sides would improve flow and capture the remaining 0.5% (lol). I think he might be right, but if not, it's a great design. The next step is cutting angles.

[@PatriotDIY]

Yea, I'm working on a solution that would allow the saw to rotate!

[@tommcdonald1746]

I'm working on this, and I hope mine works as well as yours. I have a quick question. Since your box sits really close to the factory dust chute, what's the benefit of attaching the hose to the saw?

[@tommcdonald1746]

After watching the video several more times, I now see why you connected the vac hose to factory dust port. Thxs.

[@MrChewy63]

I would add a flexible rubber shroud from the saw opening to the split in the box. Love your channel👍🍺🇺🇸

[@DOWERONE]

Perfect! I will be adding this method to my miter saw asap. As for angled cuts and blocking off that extra hose, what about a fitting on the wall or behind the saw that the hose "plugs into". The wall or counter will block off the suction.

[@PatriotDIY]

That would definatly work! I ended up just adding a blast gate to it!

[@arthilliker3721]

Great job !! I'm going to make one with my own twist on it so I can make all the angle cuts as well !! Right now there's a mountain of saw dust because I was doing repetitive cuts on a project. I've been thinking about how to address the problem and here you are !! Thanks !!

[@PatriotDIY]

Awesome. Let me know how you change it for angles!!

[@striperseeker]

Great job. I love how you have the everyman tools, like me. No Festool, or other highend stuff and you do quality work. In your design, what happens when you use the slide and pull the blade out?

[@darrellongest7944]

Thanks. Saw the rest of it, so you answered my question.

[@jesssmith7544]

Watched this yesterday and went to the shop and made a similar box for my Dewalt miter saw. It took a little while to figure out how to make it all work, but when finished, it worked beautifully. It captures nearly all of the saw dust. I had to remove the worthless dust collection tube to make room for the box. Thanks for the idea and inspiration.

[@cinderellaslifeadventures7269]

I have a dewalt saw as well, and I'm hoping to put something like this on it. But I'm new to woodworking. So if you have any pics or ideas you can share that would be great.

[@samson2968]

Here's a hint. Use a pc of pvc pipe! Works wonders a d is easily changed out!

[@JohnOutland-v3t]

Great "invention"! Your video appears to do the best at capturing dust that I have seen. Also takes up a minimal amount of space - much better than the "large box contraptions".

[@charleschi843]

@@samson2968 This.

[@mergalinpillay2413]

Great job man. Truly innovative.

[@johnoquinn6740]

Great video! I’ll be making one of these for my chop saw! I have a couple of questions about your dust collection system. I was so thoroughly impressed with your Harbor Freight collector modification, that I made one for my shop. I followed your design as close as my woodworking skills would allow me 😅, and it turned out great, but here’s my questions. 1. I’m noticing that when saws are running, a good bit of dust “bypasses” the bin directly below the cyclone, and goes straight to the 5 gallon bucket under the pleated filter. And when the sawing stops, the dust in the large bin is even carried up to the bucket. 😮 2. When the unit is turned on, a low volume of rushing air can be felt around the outside of the impeller housing. I can’t locate the source, and it’s driving me nuts! Is this normal? Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Keep the great videos coming!!

[@claudeelliott3993]

Great idea and well designed. Congratulations!!

[@globaloperator3198]

Brilliant idea and video... Thank you very much

[@timdoyon1964]

I have the exact same saw. Imagine if you had a 3D printer and designed the same type of box, but with smoother curves and walls. I’d buy one in a heart. If you were able to make them for different saws, I predict you would get rich. Great video…I feel inspired!

[@jellekampen4118]

Very elegant system, good job!

[@billlarrabee9436]

My suggestion is to try to get a hold of the manufacturer and see if they would be willing to work with you on a redesign for vacuuming saw dust.

[@davidduca8421]

Thank you ,it's a real problem.

[@stevenmerritt7220]

Very nice.. best and easiest I’ve seen.

[@danjacobsen7645]

Brilliant build. Thanks for sharing!

[@joshlouw1]

This seems like a good idea but Im wondering how well it works if you are cutting wider stock where you have to move the blade all the way to the front and back again, if that makes sense? Good job on this btw!!

[@dkhallal]

I bet, even if you had to trim off the right back corner of the box, you could swing your saw to the right, away from the hose, to do an angled cut. Nice job, subbed.

[@charlesoliver5834]

Think 100% evacuation in the wooddust. (technically the material being cut, sliced, chipped, ground names the dust. Stone dust, MDF dust, metal dust, woodcuts etc. Unless of course your saw is friable and breaking apart into small bits - then its sawdust!) 100% evacuation from each dust generation zone. As mentioned earlier through the zero clearance throat and then under the table is an ignored area. Ideally a "balanced" push- pull ventilation using secondary air in positive pressure air injection through the dust generation chambers/zones would direct and entrain all particulates. Separation science in industry deals with toxic, noxious, pollution, explosive, combustible, or high value particulates they must control, separate, and collect. That level of science has yet to show itself in our woodworking world. The addition of a custom baffle below the kerf (half pipe with positive pressure air injection on the operator's side creating an airflow towards the back and into a negative pressure outlet behind the blade.) Blade guards should be custom shaped to come down onto the wood. Their contact edges could be foam or bristle sweeps to prevent particulates which come full circle from wood and around to the front from bouncing off the wood or table and escaping the collection system. Again, ideally there should be an established push-pull ventilation within the blade guard [think of it as it's own hazardous material safety hood.] Small air injection ports along the inside of the blade guard would air wash the inner walls of the guard, direct particulates into the desired airflow, increase velocity & CFM within the blade guard airflow path, and entrain outside the guard through the bristle guard. Additional air injection ports could be on the rear mist part of the blade guard forcing an airflow into the custom collection chamber. Particulates can't escape and the push-pull ventilation forces 100% evacuation of the particulate from source to the negative pressure outlet. We DIY makers could use the blower outlet of shopvac to feed a positive pressure manifold to provide air injection through various size piping/hoses to multiple key locations. We could create marvelous custom hoods, shrouds, baffles, and guards employing the push-pull ventilation of source zones. OR manufacturers could wake up and protect our lungs by utilizing more of the current established principles of pneumatic conveyance and separation science. Here's hoping! Want to chat? [e-mail]

[@richmaldo9254]

Hi. How did you hold the box down? I did not see the factory clamp being used. Thank you.

[@offroad6309]

Nice. Radial arm saw users have been doing something similar for many years. Some slots on the face will help. When drilling with a hole saw drill a hole in the inside edge of your circle. This gives the saw dust some place to go instead of clogging the hole saw and burning the work as well as overheating the saw.

[@samholborn]

Greetings from hull uk, defo going do this, awesome vid

[@lynardburt5992]

Very well done… now do a zero clearance on base to assist your cutting and dust 😮

[@joedance14]

Good job! Really impressive!

[@damiendowney5121]

Fantastic idea simple and easy with just some scrap wood bualadh bos

[@kimberlycarter4303]

Okay, think I am going to one up you :) So I ask myself, self "why would I build a square box to fit into a round hole?" i.e rectangular box on a curved swing area (hope that makes sense). I am going to get a 13" bucket and cut it in half top to bottom. The two halves will fit over each other top and bottom. So a half of a bottom on the top and the other half on the bottom. Cut out bottom that will sit on the back of the miter saw. Then use the wood front like you did. Then when the saw moves for miter cuts it just goes around the curve of the bucket pieces and you won't have to remove the dust collection for angle cuts. Mind blown. Okay, now you can tell me what I am not thinking of and why this wouldn't work....but I think it's brilliant. Going to order a bucket to test. Would love your thoughts! I'll take pictures when I get it done.

[@zakmikati]

Really a Great job

[@stevennachlas9596]

Congrats. This works pretty well with a chopping motion. But with a 10” slider like my Makita, dust is a different story.

[@Raul28153]

pretty good and basic enough that you can have different ones for different cuts. I'd offer two alterations. Add some thin material to bring it dead flush to the saw's fence and figure a way to fasten it to the saw properly maybe tapped holes for a couple lengths of 10-32 all thread to hold it down

[@glennfranklin5293]

great job! very impressive.

[@Damon_Barber]

That’s awesome!! Any chance of making an electronic template for the front and side cuts on the Kobalt? Something Kobalt owners could print out and glue on the wood for a template?

[@JayAmatangelo]

This looks great and I will give it a try! One question. How well can you swing the saw to do 45 degree cuts both ways? Does the hose from the box get int he way?

[@PatriotDIY]

Yes it gets in the way. Mine only workes for 90 degree cuts. But I'll be making other versions for common angles

[@richardboothey9674]

You could add a couple of pins to the bottom of the box the add silicone to the back where the bod goes. Join the two together and remove it before it dries and let it dry than put it back Thanks for the idea Rick

[@dannyh.7490]

I like ! Very nice, Thank you for sharing !

[@carykern6079]

Excellent!!

[@markhumphries4327]

I'm so building this!!

[@arthurjackson]

That’s the solution right there! The other really poor dust collection is on band saws. It’s clearly an afterthought to put it down low and on the back. It should be up under the table where the sawdust is made.

[@adrianlouviere7650]

Thanks for sharing.

[@brentjohnson6654]

Another great video. Now you just have to make a movable one for mitre cuts. Haha

[@joedance14]

Would a zero clearance insert help reduce the amount of dust that evades the dust port? The kerf would be much narrower than the mouth on the factory insert. Standard practice is to pull the blade forward and THEN lower it, cutting through the workpiece as the blade is pushed to the rear. I have heard that a scoring cut as the blade is pulled forward greatly reduces the amount of dust that escapes on the return, cutting, stroke.

[@MarkSteele-yn3bl]

good idea but what when you want do angles or miters

[@ironspider5972]

Thanks for this video! I'm going to try something similar. I'm curious though, do you think you even need the stock hose connected? It doesn't look like the stock dust channel would do anything until the saw was almost all the way down? So maybe if all the suction was going to the box it would capture everything? I guess if you wanted to test you could just remove the hose from the stock port and cap the Y adapter on that side and see if you get better collection that way? And I guess you'd know if the stock channel was doing anything because if the box suction wasn't enough there'd be sawdust shooting out the top of the saw :)

[@philliplybrand4239]

What about angle cuts?

[@Trumpet.Of.Yah.]

Outstanding work brother. Is the saw still able to pivot for angle cuts? That would be great to show us. Thank you for the build.

[@PatriotDIY]

I remove the box for bevels and angles and just use the stock dust chute

[@fredbosco6104]

Brilliant

[@thinkcreate5596]

Does it catch the same dust amount when your doing a cut where you have to slide the saw. I’ve seen they all work straight down but when sliding cuts is where it fails.

[@dianetrainer9375]

I really appreciated the speed up when you are just cutting out parts. I hate waiting around when you are not showing anything.

[@fmg-1084]

Great job and I would all that 100%. Since you made that so simple to put in and take out you might be able to make two m😊ore of them. One for cutting 45 degree on left side and another for cutting 45 degree on the right side. Those three boxes would solve the majority of all types of cuts.

[@davidstatham7760]

Brilliant 👏.

[@marclamontagne494]

Good job tank you

[@72...72]

Идеи отличная!! 👍привет из России

[@byfordbarnard2264]

Going to make one, my bosh is horrible on dust

[@vcap7886]

Great stuff! subscribed!

[@RichieRich845]

Try blocking the exit port on the saw and only have one vac hose to the box, add a few more holes to the box will increase vacuum efficiency.👍

[@jimmyturner5589]

Great plan for almost all of the dust, glad to see someone trying to come up with a solution, what is your opinion on the Skil table saw, I have been thinking about one as a backup or mobile.

[@PatriotDIY]

Love it, best saw under $500 in my opinion

[@christopherdekonstrukt444]

My table doesn't butt completely against the wall and dust falls behind there. I've got to do some redesigning of my mitre saw station.

[@kennyg6482]

Works good on 90 degree cuts but do those hoses and fittings move for rotating the saw for angled cuts?

[@PatriotDIY]

No, gotta remove it for angled cuts

[@michaelscotto4724]

Have you tested it with 45’s & 22.5?