Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV - Which of D, B0 or B5 driving modes is most efficient for the city?

[@danielboricean2341]

I'm driving on my daily trips in B0, not using paddles because when press braking pedal will regenerate as much as possible. It's much comfortable in B0 because for short trips in the city very often you don't need to accelerate only to maintain speed (because you know the road and you can anticipate a lot). So your foot will be free and you are going forward without using energy, best way to drive (Outlander PHEV 2019).

[@hakimvlogs6579]

So if I just put on B0 will it automatically regen break when i break? I won’t need to use paddles to break? How much mpg do you get when doing like that? So a mix of petrol and electric

[@danielboricean2341]

B0 is when you don't want to slow down, and also no need to accelerate.. When you go down on a bridge, ore when you are approaching to an intersection and in D speed is decreasing too fast. Now I gained more experience and drive often in D mode. If you wach regeneration bar you see that is better then in B0 when braking. And B0 is good to mentain speed without energy consumption, as I written above.

[@jmgalan24]

Yo habitualmente conduzco en ciudad alternando en B0 para deslizarme el tiempo máximo y reduzco velocidad con la palanca de cambio (B3->B5) y las paletas para volver a B0.

[@evdabbler]

Si. Tambien es mi favorito.

[@Aleksimple]

What is B0 + paddles driving style? I understand B0 is coasting but then the "+ paddles"? DO you have to play with them every time you are braking or what?

[@evdabbler]

Essentially coasting whenever possible but increasing up to B5 regen with the paddles every time braking is required.

[@mikehall6608]

@@evdabbler So basically it's no different than driving in D, coasting as much as possible (modulate accelerator so that the needle sits in the narrow gap between charge and eco), and using the foot brake to gently add additional regenerative braking when necessary - until mechanical braking kicks in. I've just been doing a lot of reading about this because I'm about to purchase a 2019 Outlander PHEV which doesn't come with the paddles installed, hence I'm limited to D, or B1 and B2 (According to the dashboard screen, but these could equate to higher B numbers with paddles). All B0 does is that it allows you to coast by removing your foot from the accelerator, which I agree is practical, but the same effect can be had in any B setting if the accelerator is pressed slightly, so there's no drive to the wheels, but equally no regenerative braking. So my view is, driving in D, modulating the accelerator, and using the foot brake to control the amount of regenerative braking when required might be just as effective, although less practical, as the B0 + paddles style.

[@evdabbler]

@@mikehall6608 I have never found the pedal 'feathering' technique to be that easy. Saying that, if the videos I have put together are anything to go by, the difference between these modes is very small in the end. Hard to see it as a major decision factor in a used car purchase if you intend to drive it for normal, everyday usage!

[@israelandrade4747]

@@evdabbler I find the paddles work best on hills. going downhill, 10 miles with paddles generates 36ev miles for me. and going uphill, on b0, less gas is used.

[@pieterVTX]

Hallo which app did you use to record the battery usage data

[@evdabbler]

@@pieterVTX hi. It's PHEV watchdog

[@Excellent2009able]

Hey Dude, , im looking for some advice on the main differences / pros & cons between a 2014 PHEV vs 2015 PHEV facelift model? I’m looking at a 2014 with 52,000 miles & a 2015 with 100,000 miles at a simular price! Mostly for short runs so would be plugging it in every night! Thanks

[@evdabbler]

The main thing i would check is battery capacity. Ask for a diagnostic or plug an odb dongle

[@Excellent2009able]

@@evdabbler brill thanks, I have one, which app can I use ?

[@evdabbler]

@@Excellent2009able phev watchdog

[@Excellent2009able]

@@evdabbler maybe not available here, I’m in ireland. Know any others? I’m on apple iOS iPhone

[@evdabbler]

@@Excellent2009able this is an Android only app. Worth getting hold of any old android for that.

[@arielnelskyla7231]

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[@evdabbler]

Great! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@TONY-ie3nj]

Very diffivcult to understand what you mean. Me as owner of a 2014 phev drive inside the city always on b5. on the freeway also but in safe position, so when I brake, it always generate. Is that ok?

[@vish481]

Have you had any issues with Battery degradation?

[@evdabbler]

Thanks and good question. Degradation is a hot topic with the outlander. I have decided to ignore the issue of battery management system reducing the available capacity over time. I will try to do a video on this but in short, I think it s not a thing that one should obsess about. If you are happy to get a PHEV you shouldnt treat it as a pure EV.

[@vish481]

@@evdabbler thanks for the quick reply! I'm looking at buying a 68 or 19 plate 4h version, and was getting a bit worried when reading about such things. Hopefully overblown and not a problem in the majority of cases

[@evdabbler]

@@vish481 if buying from a dealer you can ask them to tell you the % state of health available and perform the reset procedure if needed. Mine had a true soh of 88% after 45,000 miles which I decided was acceptable. Because your Ev range is defined by capacity between that number and the 30% mark, i wouldn't want anything below 80% and preferably 85%. The 2019 has more capacity so something to consider too

[@evdabbler]

Check out this new video on battery degradation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2jVdKaFbZ6smpI

[@mikemarillion5221]

Why do you decide to cover most imoportand piece of data every 5 seconds with that fugly white rectangle - it really doesn't need to be that big. Also you should explain the B0+paddles mode IN the video - I (and I assume a lot of people) watch youtube on TV, or a phone. You do not see your comments then. I Came to my PC to rant, and you added it in the description - it should really be in the video. Also - 9 km is waaaay to small driving sample to reach a conclusion when you will obviously have very different driving conditions. I'd suggest much longer sample or use with low traffic and trying to simulate similar conditions. Still - good info - keep up the good work.

[@evdabbler]

Ah ah. You have to love feedback. All fair, sadly I won't do a retest with the outlander anytime soon as I have dropped the car. To note 9km is short but equally you wont do more than 50km at best with that phev. From extensive testing with the Ioniq, a proper EV, it's hard to tell the difference with low / high regen as the car will regen as much as possible either way and there are very little losses of energy with that one