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@DannySolares3 жыл бұрын
Still relevant and concise years later.
@TroyBlackford3 жыл бұрын
Totally. This is one of the first ones I ever watched and now here I am again!
@44numskull10 жыл бұрын
This is quickly becoming my favourite recording channel. My mixes sound cleaner after going through and adjusting the gain on each track. Thanks!
@rickyred0018 жыл бұрын
I've seen lots of tutorial video's on gain staging on youtube, this is by far the best one, explained clearly and simply without being too complicated, another great video from mixbus
@ThePauloman809 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. The biggest thing I've been learning lately are basic fundamentals. I can't believe how long I've been pushing my levels too hard and making more work for myself just like you said. Can't wait to put this particular technique to use.
@BenFortier4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David! Your channel is by far one of the BEST and most INFORMATIVE audio engineering channels on here. This was super helpful. Thank you!!
@mixbustv4 жыл бұрын
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@africanrevolution35513 жыл бұрын
David is just A BEAST!!!!!!!!! Don't know why I'm only seing this!!!!!!
@t.thanatos39442 жыл бұрын
One small thing I will add about what you say at 3:10 regarding running your signal hot. This is totally true if you’re going directly into your AD converter. If you are running through an analog preamp before your AD, there is a trick you can do to get additional saturation from your preamps while still saving as much headroom on your AD converter as you want. Basically you need to put a *passive* attenuator between your preamp and the interface. An example of this would be to put a LittleLabs Redcloud in between your pres and adc. Run the pre’s as hot as you’d like, but reel them in before they hit your converters. Works great to add saturation if you have a good set of preamps. That is all. Great video btw!
@munton51504 жыл бұрын
This is a very important video for me personally. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
@d.m.ebeats9013 Жыл бұрын
This is very important to me I have always made this mistake of not taking proper look into my gain staging making me struggling alot in mixing.thanks so much mixbus tv ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@LyudmilaOsipova3 жыл бұрын
So happy to find your channel, with so generous step by step explanation. Thanks a lot !👍👍👍👍👍
@jaydy718 жыл бұрын
I recently subscribed because your channel is such a treasure trove of great insight. I have been a live front-mixer for many years, and I like to think I was pretty good at it (bands paid good money for pretty large gigs anyway, and some direct-from-desk recordings even ended up being mastered for release). Studio work is quite something else though, and I have so much to learn there... It's really a lot more work as it seems to be all about the sum of well-considered details (the sort of thing you don't have much time for in live situations). Anyway, thanks for the great content you're putting out there.
@CostasCh7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so mutch for this tutorial! This was trouble me for a long time now and the discussions on the internet was confusing me!
@jayc62019 жыл бұрын
This is the 3rd video I've watched, I really like them. In your 'stop the hi pass madness' video, you gave a great demonstration on phase shifting and recommended EQ at the bus (instead of individual tracks) for multi-miked tracks. The SSL plugin seems a little hi-powered for just lowering the track level; is there another reason you choose it instead of the Trim plugin? Do you utilize any other of the SSL plugin functions on the individual tracks?
@RETCHED-METAL3 жыл бұрын
I needed this tutorial thanks David
@sarahtonin46494 жыл бұрын
Great advice. I had to learn this the hard way. Hopefully, I am accomplishing the same thing by selecting the hot wave events on the playing field and pulling the gain down there. There's a gain control built into each clip, at least in Studio One there is. I don't know about other DAWs.
@sarahtonin46494 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Thank you. You are a great explainer. :-)
@DavidMikael8 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Wait, couldn't you also adjust your clip gain?
@SidneyAugustoDaSilva4 жыл бұрын
Man, you are magician. Best lesson ever! Thanks a lot! Cheers from Brazil
@joelpizarro13848 жыл бұрын
ssl collection doesn't clip. It was designed to act exactly as the console by creating saturation on the output stage. Run a sine wave thru it and maximize the output you'll see the harmonics created thru a analyzer.
@Sdbbffsd5 жыл бұрын
joel pizarro is this how people r recording vocals at -18 and having that clean saturation ?
@franny231123DMT5 жыл бұрын
a sine wave at or above - 3db RMS is mathematically guaranteed to clip. that's 0db in dbFo or whatever the other standard is btw. , you can't beat hard science reality hey. don't be that mix engineer 😬👆
@franny231123DMT5 жыл бұрын
also a pure sine wave has no harmonics
@patrickharber1770 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for responding to my comment on your other video. Would you create a rough mix thru the gain staging or should you not worry about balance during gain staging?
@mixbustv Жыл бұрын
I do create the rough mix with/while doing gain staging yes.
@MikeHeebz6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. I've been gain staging in pro tools by setting the clip gain volume -10db on each tracks individual wav. Is what your doing with the SSL E Channel getting the same result as what I'm doing with the clip gain? Is there different artifacts effecting each sound involved with the 2 different processes? Is it hurting anything quality/sonic wise by gain staging with the clip gain? Do you keep the analog setting on for all tracks so you're getting the SSL Analog Sound across the board? Thanks for sharing this crucial information that isn't talked about much in depth.
@ashwin2304924 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is exactly my concern. Most plugins tend to change the tone of the sound even without any parameters turned on which slightly goes against the purpose of gain staging.
@MikeHeebz4 жыл бұрын
@@ashwin230492 That's why I gain stage with Clip Gain or a trim plugin...it doesn't change the character of the original sounds. =)
@fojeba8 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your tutorial. I am wondering if it would be fine as well to lower gain on group tracks and leave individual track with higher volume.
@ziad.elassy9 жыл бұрын
What a great tutorial! I really liked it and i will def do that in my tracks but I have one little question Is there a difference between adjusting the input signal from the SSL's input level and just dragging down the volume fader? I got really frustrated in that part so I hope you can reply as fast as possible As always keep up the good work! Thanks in advance
@ziad.elassy9 жыл бұрын
+MixbusTV How about if I use a limiter (invisible limiter/fabfilter L) and modify the "OUT" parameter to -10/-18 Db. Is that the exact same thing as adjusting the SSL'S input level?
@ziad.elassy9 жыл бұрын
Alright! Thanks
@Leo_Berger8 жыл бұрын
+MixbusTV Jesus Christ. Every f****ng plugin has a gain nob or level control of some sort. Just reduce the damn level with the first insert in the chain. A whole channel strip just to change the gain, that's just ridicules
@vm36995 жыл бұрын
@@Leo_Berger Watch the video full before commenting mate
@Arawashj5 жыл бұрын
That's why I like Reason. All that is included on the mixer. No need to add a channel strip 😎
@santinhoww7 жыл бұрын
With this method, if I start mixing and bringing the faders on, the kick sit in about 0db, the snare +3, guitars +5.. I read about the fader being post-everything, but, why not start the faders about -5 to give more room for mixing and automation? Don't know.. I'm a newbie to this stuff! Been watching your videos, really liking so far, thanks!!
@santinhoww7 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated! Quick answer too, thanks again!
@cerumen9 жыл бұрын
Would it not be better to record relatively hot (but not near clipping) and then lower the initial level of each track ITB with gain plug-ins? So the recordings themselves each have maximum S/N, but then you lower the gain of that strong signal in post, so you are not affecting the S/N of the recording? Doesn't that make more sense?
@MikaKotikoski2 жыл бұрын
How about the following process? When composing/ starting mixing gain staging against pink noise peaking at -6 dB ie gain staging each individual track so it can be just about heard through. According to my understanding that creates a pretty well balanced starting point with ample headroom. From there adding compression by roughly -2 dB on each track another -2dB on each group bus or -4 dB per track if there is no group bus and finally another -2 dB (-4 dB or so at hardest genres) at the Master and naturally gain compensating for the used compression so it bring the tracks to the desired peak level (again roughly against pink noise) per track and further when played together at the master . Finally from there fine tuning with fader automation for final mix to be bounced into a master which gets the final mastering treatment (eq, saturtion & typically another -2 dB compression if still desired).
@regnessem7 жыл бұрын
Very Very good info my man- thanks a bunch- but what I would like to see is a tutorial on gain staging all the way from say the sound card through the DAW- to the monitors (I'm using powered monitors with vol control)--Let me know if you already have one or going to make one-- Thanks in advance
@regnessem7 жыл бұрын
yeah thats what I thought thanks.But what I was referring to is, all the volume knobs like the one on your sound card, the one on Command 8 (Pro-Tools controller) and finally the monitors--how should they be set?...10 o clock, 12 o clock or all the way up
@audioengineproductions5 жыл бұрын
Nice and thorough thank you for clearly explaining this. It was easy to listen to you because of that. Thanks again!
@DMidNyte3 жыл бұрын
Dave, your helping me a lot. Thank you 😊
@mrmorpheus97078 жыл бұрын
funny how avid is now 32 bit floating point ...steinberg been 32 bit float from conception!! lol
@RDYC5 жыл бұрын
PT is always "just a bit" behind ;).
@kevinlentz76042 жыл бұрын
David love your analysis,so simple but right on
@creativedecysions7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that kill your processing power though, SSL across 40 tracks?
@rogeralleyne92573 жыл бұрын
Great lesson!!!🙏🙏🙏
@richardstopford21333 жыл бұрын
great video! But I'm really confused between setting levels to get headroom on the master bus, and off-setting that with trying to hit the sweet spot for insert plugins at 0dbVU. I've callibrated my DAW meter to sit at 0dbVU with -18dBFS (seemingly recommended calibration) and to show the VU and peak levels. On the snare, I'm having to add gain to get it to hit 0dbVU for the sweet spot for insert plugins. But with that added gain, the peak level is clipping on the master...although the VU level is around 0db on the master. So, I'm clipping already! But if I lower the trim on the snare its nowhere near 0dBVU which is recommended for the insert plugins. Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding something but if I gain stage for 0dbVU on individual tracks I have clipping on peak levels. Am I doing something wrong?
@MojosArmy9 жыл бұрын
Is this what the 'gain' plugin in Logic is meant to be used for? I use it to make my 2-bus mono for checking phase issues. I use the Sonimus Satson channel on all my channel strips for the gain staging and for gluing the mix together. Thanks for the great videos!
@PalkoChris4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Often over looked.
@22RecordsInc8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Very simple and helpful. Now that I know this, if I have done a mix (incorrectly) of my own stuff using the faders, if I now go in and insert plug ins to lower the gain the way you describe, am I going to have to redo my whole mix and adjust all the plug in settings? Obviously compression will have to be adjusted, but are there any exceptions, like maybe EQ, where the input signal doesn't really change what the plug in is doing? Also is there an easier way to do this, for example like a pre bus, or a VCA group, where just one fader or plug in is used? Seems like that should be standard on all DAWs... thanks again
@MartinWeeksmw9 жыл бұрын
This video is excellent and I've see this before in Recording Revolution. I use sonakais (spl?) trimmer for just about everything. However, I have a question about using this plugin. In the video you just adjust the level...am I supposed to set it to "pre" or not? I thought (maybe incorrectly) that one wants to set the minus levels to pre to acomplish this gain staging to create more headroom. Am I incorrect? Thanks. And thanks for writing back on previous posted questions too. Peace! Marty
@MartinWeeksmw9 жыл бұрын
In the lower left of the sonakais underneath the meter next to the fader is a setting that says "pre" I thought I was supposed to click that for prefader. Sorry I can't use the snippet to show you but if you look you will see it. Is it necessary to click or not?
@radhakrishnaneskala23887 жыл бұрын
Hello David sir, Excellent videos and best mixing tutorials. I have learned a lot from ur lessons honestly. I need an advice from you for my following query. I am sending all my rhythm kit to rhythm bus where I am using SSL G BUS COMPRESSOR. Again i am routing compressed rhythm bus opt to final master mix bus where I am using ML4000 MULTI BAND DYNAMICS. How far it is fair enough to process twice only Rhythm section. What are all d cautions one must look out and plz advice in this situation. Thanks.
@emiel3332 жыл бұрын
ChannelStrip plus Insert before Post (in Pre fader) a little cut or larger it depends will improve any audio track a lot. It’s cool to do, use it in the DAW and seeing the Master finally going below 0 and even to -6dB to -8dB!
@bunyaadi7 жыл бұрын
I use reference C-weighted pink noise just to start the mix levels before adding any effects or adding gain to each track these days. Seems to work though to a certain extent.
@mirko24817 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for the trim improved my mixes
@antimatter2093 жыл бұрын
simple but very effective
@alwyzDTF Жыл бұрын
Gain staging at first seemed extremely overwhelming and even in doing so it took me a long time because I wasnt very used to navigating around my DAW so it did become a large task I didnt want to do. With time, practice and better habits overtime it becomes a breeze and there is no excuse to avoid it.
@Wouterferdinand6 жыл бұрын
Even though I completely agree with don't overthink it. Usually I bring down the individual levels of each track. I like this approach to do it with a plug in!
@absoluutrecords5 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv What's the difference between using the SSL/Sonalksis plugin and just turning down the fader for each track?
@miguelowls4 жыл бұрын
Great info! But once you get the gain staging part taking care of. Do you start moving faders to get a good static mix???
@mixbustv4 жыл бұрын
No, I do something different, you're a member, you'll have access to the video when is out ;)
@miguelowls4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait 😊
@wrightonrice Жыл бұрын
Hey, Miguel. I became a member a couple days ago (woohoo!). Did this video ever get uploaded for members?
@petemusgrove74227 жыл бұрын
Hi David, This is probably a messy question for which there is no "one size fits all" answer. My research on the web hasn't revealed anything of much use, so here I am asking my go-to guy :-) Nominal input level going into a vst? I'm not asking about guitar sims, compressors, limiters or saturation. If you have a general recommendation for reverb, delay, modulation, etc., I'd love to hear it. I've read online that it doesn't matter as long as the signal's not too hot going in, but other people say that plugins only perform properly when their input signal is "nominal". Thanks, Pete
@petemusgrove74227 жыл бұрын
Many, many thanks for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated David!
@HighFlown8 жыл бұрын
How do you take care of the noise floor when you using analog emulation plugins? I make sure all my tracks are peaking no higher than -18dbfs but at the end of every mix there is always a TON of noise even when I turn off all the analog emulation on the plugins. How do I get rid of this?
@HighFlown8 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah that's what I was saying in my last comment that I DID turn the analog off on all the plugins but I still am getting a noticeable noise floor? Why is this you think?
@HighFlown8 жыл бұрын
I'm a hip hop producer so everything is programmed so no there is no noise in any of my recordings. Also when I do mix vocals for my clients I make sure I remove the background by using an editor that specializes in that. What do you mean hw inserts?
@HighFlown8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh alright. I actually figured out what it was hahah It was my VMR mixbus plugin that was spitting out all that noise. I hit the noise reduction button and BAM all the noise gone lol Thanks for helping me out anyways! Love your tutorials man keep em coming.
@vm36995 жыл бұрын
Hi david . Vaishakh from India here ... I don't know if this is a stupid question or something ... But Why did you use an SSL plugin to trim down everything by 10 db ?. Can we it do by the channel faders itself ?
@EastCoastGhost4109 жыл бұрын
Is this technique as effective or necessary while making beats? Should the new tracks i create be trimmed first also?
@adamlewis40479 жыл бұрын
great video! wondering why i see so many people importing their tracks into new project files - how come you just didnt keep the audio tracks in the project they were recorded in?
@theGuitarTNT7 жыл бұрын
Hi David, great vid as always man! I am in working situation with my own packed song (60-70 tracks) and I didn't do gain staging beforehand. I am near to finish the mix (balances done, fight for every Db, every peak manually editing, lots of plugins inserted already etc). And I did all that without knowledge and with -10Db on MASTER fader. What would you advise to do now? Am I assuming correctly that if I put now on every track simple -10Db Trim / Volume plugin and then hear again my mix with reshaping decisions on how things sound I would be ok? I did quite a lot decisions already on peaks edits, eq, compression etc :( Or will I have to start from the beginning again with every decision made on EQ, compression, saturations, peaks removal etc etc
@theGuitarTNT7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much David! Yes it definitely helped. I was clipping on the master like 4-6 Db, but I have been solving individual peaks after master rendering (EQ or velocities or peaks splits etc) over and over again hitting highest peak each time and now I am on -2, -3 Db on master without clipping - also to prepare crest factor and get louder mix for master (hope this is also good way to do it without losing too much dynamics). But I AM in fact on limiter with some individual tracks before they are going to other buses (because after all processing they were slightly clipping max to +1Db). I will have to do something to them to resign from limiting on this early track stage. Maybe KClip them just slightly to lower output without losing balance (cause other tracks are set already with decisions and sit in the mix)? Anyway.. Thanks to this video and earlier ones also now I know how to save my time and nerves later just by putting volume reduction as you said like -10Db each track when unity gain. Thanks! :)
@briannewman49047 жыл бұрын
This will save you a lot of time! It will make you realize big sound is... a little goes a long way...
@michaelbennett89817 жыл бұрын
Someone already asked a similar question, but why not just lower the faders. That's a lot of SSL's. Okay, so you use the channel strips for comp, eq etc. That is however your preference. Loading the same amount of trim plugins or turning down the input for whichever plugin resides in the first insert slot seems unnecessary. I ask because I'm curious, not because I know it all. Maybe I'm missing something. Thanks for a great video!
@doubleddrummer8 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question, but I am dumb so it's ok.... Why should I use a plug in to lower the gain when the mixer itself has gain controls that I can use right there to lower the peaks of each channel? I am sure theres a reason? Love your videos by the way!
@KoljaBeckmann_music2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you
@mickeydavenport69556 жыл бұрын
What's the difference from lowering the levels in mixer and putting a gain plug in and lowering it in channel strip? I usually highlight all mixer channels and lower uniform.
@nunoandrademusicspace75909 жыл бұрын
cool, simple but very important tip. thanks a lot
@mixxmaster804 жыл бұрын
I like this better than what i paid for!
@mixbustv4 жыл бұрын
You and few others 😄 happy to help
@robertwhite4 жыл бұрын
I am learning a lot from you sir!! Thank you so much!!! I have one question.. would it make a difference i just put one trim plug in on the master bus instead of puting single trim plug ins for every track?
@KENNYCMUSICPRODUCER4 жыл бұрын
MixbusTV How about putting a limiter plugin on the master channel? Would it works? Is this good idea in order to get enough headroom?
@kalilbarry37738 жыл бұрын
Hello just found your channel and I'm addicted to. I from Paris so excuse my english. Can I use the Clip Gain to set the right level? Second, what is the optimal headroom to have on the master track ?
@kalilbarry37738 жыл бұрын
***** Thx for the answer
@israelroy70778 жыл бұрын
If we are to add plugins on the master, (EQ, Kclip, limiter, etc.) don't we want the level that level to be optimal (-18 db) for operating level ? Would you consider trimming the master as well ? Also I have found some youtuber says -18 dB RMS and some other says Peak ! Wich one is it ?
@Hassan_Omer6 жыл бұрын
I just saw some people using pink noise to get a quick mix and setting up the track levels as a starting point. the examples i have seen so far were pretty good. Have you ever tried mixing using pink noise technique and found it useful ?
@Hassan_Omer6 жыл бұрын
hahaha , yes you are right it seems like a thing suitable for less experienced people or maybe if the room acoustics are not great maybe then it can be helpful because eventually they all say that it doesn't give you a proper mix but just an idea to setup the levels of your tracks.
@CostasCh7 жыл бұрын
About the fader plugin, does the Ableton's stock gain utility tool does the same thing?
@gerisyandrayusman2413 жыл бұрын
Thank's Mixbus Tv! How do you calibrate the "meter" for mixing & mastering? like your other videos, trick on Pro tools example -10 for recording session.
@mixbustv3 жыл бұрын
I use PT classic metering for both tracks and master track. But for both mixing and mastering I have my meters on my hardware, AD+ in particular also has a zoom in function for better accuracy so, yeah, hardware metering for me.
@tomswee9356 жыл бұрын
Great Video ! Great Channel! Great explained! now I understand. Only one thing I´m confused over and that´s LUFS. I know that -18 dB is the same as 0 VU, are -23 LUFS also the same? , just Another scale?
@tomswee9356 жыл бұрын
OK now I understand, thank you very much !
@NyakzOTSD8 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro. This worked a charm!
@keimurr16 жыл бұрын
is this a good idea to use trim plugins if you have gain pots in your daw?
@lifeguardlloyd4 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple, thank you. In Cubase the strip allows me to do this without a plugin.
@rapha70074 жыл бұрын
How? I have Cubase 9 Pro. Can you do a YT tutorial on it?
@titmusspaultpaul58 жыл бұрын
hi, great vid (I'm new to recording on a PC, usually i do stand alone DAW's)..... just wondering if you turn the volume down 15 to 18 db, will it effect the actual sound quality.... like cutting some of the frequencies because its too soft? if not at 15 to 18db, when does this happen? i dont want to lose any of the dynamics. ..... thanks again
@titmusspaultpaul58 жыл бұрын
+MixbusTV thanks for the reply, great help. i run my guitar through my Boss br800 at 24bit to record and do the rest in sonar professional (although just working out how to use the pc bassed DAW... so all the info i can get is helpfull)
@parkermiddleton52189 жыл бұрын
One thing that I never understood about gain staging is what level of db's should I aim for post processing of the audio? If I'm trimming all of my channels down to 10 db should i aim for 6 db or even higher post processing? Or should I keep it closer to 10 and let the mastering bring my mix back to a higher volume?
@alicesandberg8560 Жыл бұрын
Hi David, Is the goal with gain staging to hit same volume at the end of the channel strip after all fx as at the start when you added -10?
@mixbustv Жыл бұрын
The goal of gain staging is to have the correct gain structure so you hit everything at the right level, so you have plenty of headroom on each track and group to be able to do automation and same on the 2bus
@brianpatrick61028 жыл бұрын
Great info as always. A few things Im unclear on: Recording should be done w pre fader monitoring, and mixing w post fader monitoring. Correct? Also, with the faders set at unity after proper gain staging, it doesnt seem like there is much room to move the faders UP if you have to. Is this something to consider or am I not understanding something there? Thank you! And, Happy Holidays to you and yours.
@brianpatrick61028 жыл бұрын
+MixbusTV Ummm... haha Im not really sure, thats why I asked. I think I assumed I should monitor my tracking pre fader so I can see what my actual levels are that are coming into protools. Therefore getting the gain staging right from the start. ??? Im not sure I entirely understand pre/post fader monitoring. But yes, what Ive been trying to do is get moderate gain staging levels from the start. Ill have to watch this again. Thanks.
@riczarro68058 жыл бұрын
+brian patrick With Pro Tools pre fade monitoring does let you see the incoming signal, so even if you were to pull down that track fader you wouldn't see the track meter change. To see a change during mixing you have to turn off "Pre fade monitoring" With it on you could have that tracks fader all the way down and still see the incoming signal strength you are recording with. BTW thanks for the great vid.
@brianpatrick61028 жыл бұрын
+Ric Zarro Got it. Thank you.
@producerfuji_official5 жыл бұрын
Question I’ve never seen master fader sent to a mixbus why is that and where would you add your plugins on mixbus or master fader and why please explain thank you
@TheLuis271278 жыл бұрын
great video best so far
@paperodiabolicovideo5 жыл бұрын
10:30 YES!!! THIS!!
@kodibestcustombuilds4338 жыл бұрын
great tip. thank you.
@stevewatkins56598 жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful tutorial many thanks
@adamlewis9769 жыл бұрын
great video... quick question. So what is the recommended levels for RMS/Peak on your master before you start mixing approximately? I am using 24 bit. thank you!!
@adamlewis9769 жыл бұрын
this is true... thx man. what about the peak? is there a level i should make sure my master bus doesnt peak higher than before my mix process?
@adamlewis9769 жыл бұрын
***** thx man, and thanks for all the great videos!
@JuanFelixMusic6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@christopherdunn317Ай бұрын
just curious ? what should the master levels be @ before mastering and mixing like what level ? thank you ! cause it looked like you had it at -12 ? 8:08
@mixbustvАй бұрын
It doesn't matter. The level of your mix is irrelevant and has no bearing on the master or on how loud it can get. *As long* as you don't clip, and don't use a limiter NOT to clip. In short, anywhere between -12 and -1, it's the same. The only thing that factors in how loud a master can get is crest factor and balance.
@jackstanton27712 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@user-ij5rs7xq5y6 жыл бұрын
Hey David, when you lower the gain on one track and drag it onto every other track of the mix, I'm wondering if you also drag that -10db of gain reduction onto the tracks that have already got a low enough gain, or do you leave them out and keep them untouched? Also would you do your gain staging from the loudest track in the mix then copy the plugin to every other track? I assume yes but just for confirmation.Thanks!
@user-ij5rs7xq5y6 жыл бұрын
MixbusTV awesome thanks bro
@MartinWeeksmw7 жыл бұрын
Quick question as I run into a problem often even though I'm already doing this. I use the Sonakis (spl?) trimmer just like you said. But I still have problems balancing the head phone (for vocals and accoustic instruments) in my interface. Trying to make sure the focusrite input level is in the green where it's supposed to be but still hear my voice or the guitar clearly while recording. And when done usually visually the wav form is so tiny that I have to enlarge the actual track view tremendously to actually see how the sound is actually translating into the track. So I still wind up running into gain staging problems later on when, as you said, I start setting up buses, adding compression and EQ and so on. Suggestions? I don't have problems setting up the gain staging, but more in the hearing correctly what is being recorded. And the Scarlett has very very low latency problems when I'm listening directly through it with it's drivers. So as they say on FB. WTF?? Help...
@MartinWeeksmw7 жыл бұрын
Oh well thought I'd ask anyway. Thanks though
@AlessiaandFamily7 жыл бұрын
Why you turn down the input ssl and not just the output ?
@AlessiaandFamily7 жыл бұрын
MixbusTV oh okay..if you use the eq and compression and you turn down the input it affect the effect on eq and compression?
@AlessiaandFamily7 жыл бұрын
MixbusTV ok thx
@robertopistolesi27352 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video David. My question is: would it be the same thing if I lowered the volume direclty from the audio files? I've seen people doing that in the studio, and I'm wondering if thee result is just the same, sonically speaking. Thanks!
@mixbustv2 жыл бұрын
Sonically speaking, yes, but not the workflow
@robertopistolesi27352 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv thanks for the answer!
@arielvinda66248 жыл бұрын
I do my gain stage either directly on the faders or on the audio track itself.... is any wrong doing in it? (Depending the case I also use this method of putting a utility tool like a trim as an insert)
@akagabeee19568 жыл бұрын
quick question what if the beat was all ready mastered and u wanna put vocals on it do you trim the instrumental, or the master bus? please and thank you
@bikesnbeerz6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. This helped a lot. Makes gain staging a lot easier in Cubase 9.5. Andeven with the default settings, the SSL sound could be heard a bit. Great all in one solution I already bought a while back but not thought of using like this, so mega thanks.
@DaMonstaMuzik8 жыл бұрын
Scenario question for you............... Lets say i didnt want to use the whole channel strip for this, but i need to adjust Gain of individual channels. What about using the NLS channels? This would also give you the option to route them into NLS sub groups later too. Also, can you maybe list a few for just gain adjustment that are really low on CPU usage? Im running NI Komplete Ultimate 10, some Waves and Klanghelm stuff
@optpr11195 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid. Can you help me understand something? So the goal is to record everything at a mid level right? Not too hot but not to low as well. Maybe a good db would be -12 or somewhere around there correct? Then from there you may want to lower all your levels for the whole song so that the master fader isn’t clipping and you have room to add plugins. After this, what would you say is the ideal dB level your masterfader should be at before bouncing out to have mastered? And then following this, what db level are mastered tracks at for the final master? I’m trying to wrap my head around this.
@optpr11195 жыл бұрын
MixbusTV ok thanks. So I’ll record everything into the daw at an ideal mid level and keep the faders at unity. But once I start to mix everything I can adjust the faders as needed to taste and also to stop any clipping on the master correct? And then next, what is the ideal master level dB when I have all the faders leveled to taste before bouncing out to go to the master phase? Does is matter or do you want a lot of headroom before sending it off to mastering? Lastly, since I will try to do mastering myself, what is the ideal final dB any given track should be at to be radio ready? Sorry if I’m being a little repetitive.
@hejgoranfesdu2 жыл бұрын
do i use waves mono or stereo ssl e channel to gainstage ? i most work with electronic and loops that always are to loud for the most and in stereo so i convert to mono on them like the kick..i use mixcraft 9 for the moment and it dont have mixbuss as in pro tools for say i can not make output tracks and route and so and so on.. submixes yes.. but is mixbuss same as masdterbuss.. ?
@agauerm4 жыл бұрын
Hi there mate. Is there like a "super precise" level analysis plugin that you would recommend for calibration outboard gear? Mainly when you wanna use gear that only exists in mono and you get a pair of them to run the mix bus, you have to level match left and right precisely to not fuck up the stereo levels.
@mixbustv4 жыл бұрын
Any digital analyzer would do, I like ozone but Paz will do, send a 1k sine signal and take note
@FrederickRincon9 жыл бұрын
Why not just lower all wav/aiff files volume. Saves CPU and headroom..
@Tkivo9 жыл бұрын
+Frederick Alonso Yeah, that was my first thought too.
@DaMonstaMuzik8 жыл бұрын
+Frederick Alonso I know In pro tools you can do that directly from the wave form, other DAW's do it too. Some programs you cant do that though
@dcocharro8 жыл бұрын
+Frederick Alonso yup, clip gain, etc...
@jasperdunn7 жыл бұрын
Can't we just normalize all the tracks to -12 and get it done quick?
@Dunmunll7 жыл бұрын
You could do that too. The point is there are numerous ways to do it, and he just shows you how he likes to do it. Also he stated that he uses the ssl for more than just trimming, its usually the first thing he throws on his chain.
@henryhaze3229 жыл бұрын
quick question how would i go about mixing a 2 track session? Because sometimes the beats my clients get are really loud as if mastered already, do i just lower it or mix my vocal into the beat?
@HotelPools3 жыл бұрын
any thoughts on the Neve MPB?
@mixbustv3 жыл бұрын
Good unit, I went for the Fusion.
@radhakrishnaneskala23887 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your prompt and fast reply. I request you to do video on Mc DSP ML4000. I did not find even in their own website. I wd b very happy if u do the proper tutorial on it. Thnx.
@IIMANIXII8 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this over clip gain ?
@IIMANIXII8 жыл бұрын
I might try it on the next mix i do... i got klanghelms VUs which have a nifty lttle trim knob...thanks be lucky