176 vs 1176 Compressors: Why These Two Are NOTHING Alike!

[@IntheDAW]

I know this is a old video but i love coming back to these just to hear how you describe things. So much more realistic and detailed then others.

[@Perfettoofficial]

Dope video, love the knowledge!!!!

[@mixbustv]

🙏 thank you!

[@danymalsound]

The UAD plugs are really nice. Hopefully, they join the other UA comps via Spark soon. Great stuff, man!

[@JohnMarshall-NI]

I would love to see them get UADx versions. They are my favourite UAD comps, but are pretty DSP heavy.

[@danymalsound]

@@JohnMarshall-NI agreed! I actually use the brown/red one on my drum comp (parallel) a lot now

[@RETCHED-METAL]

I love the analog stuff and your content too cheers mate almost done tracking. 🤘

[@aleksamrkela831]

Hope we get a history video for the Fairchild 660/670! It's an iconic vari-mu.

[@mixbustv]

yes

[@murraywebster1228]

Good explanation!

[@leroygibbsii2559]

Just started using the Retro 176 emulation of my Antelope Zentour. Thanks for this video, has given me further insight. Like it on my vocal group bus.

[@Excellent2009able]

Brilliant video ! 🙏🏻

[@detective4719]

Great video! Was always wondering what the differences are on these units.

[@RonnieLeBlancMusic]

nice!!

[@jenslempke7501]

The 175B on guitar, 176 on bass, LA3A (more transparant) on keys (if any compression on keys) and the DBX (really punchy) on drums together with Pultec Eq = my setup. For extra depth if it fits the mix, the Fairchild on bass/drums UAD is all you need.

[@RETCHED-METAL]

What do you think of using the analog Drawmer 1973 on my drum bus? I'm going to try it in a bit

[@gaudinni]

Thanks David!

[@Six2Nine]

Nice research! Thx

[@firmans12]

David youre awesome. Do you have a full walk through or lesson for setting up space aka delay and reverb in a mix especially vocals. I have trouble listening to it

[@mixbustv]

I have a lot of them, some free most in the members section

[@Reggi_Sample]

Looks like this where waves bb tubes got their GUI?

[@mixbustv]

yep

[@오정재-b3t]

1st thank you!! always~~

[@bobpaker430]

4:04 measure and you get a signal of 0.01s or 2 second it still the same release time after it's a micro bit faster on a 2s signal compress of 30ms around, you can do test with emulation it's the same some micro diff but same in general. I trust more my ears or even pluggin dev like overloud waves, uad than your affirmation, The realease become faster more you push the compression for 1 or 2 db you can get a 200ms, but 10-20db you can get a 100ms release time. Thank so many video on compressor and still not see it seriously

[@mixbustv]

TF are you even talking about 😂

[@johntomanio3374]

David, can you explain the difference between the Retro 176 and the Retro Sta-Level? Isn't the Sta-Level also vari-mu? I have used both and have difficulty hearing the difference between the two...

[@josephforrest3713]

So... That does beg the question, is there actually an 1176 style comp but with a tube amplifier? Do I even mean this lol. Something with the control over the time constants, like an 1176, but with that warm LA2A sound? Can you not just use an LED, rather than a T4 load cell, for instance? Or even a separate transistor circuit that handles gain reduction, combined with a tube amplifier circuit?

[@mixbustv]

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[@spn7594]

UA plugin still discount now, i wish to buy "all around" compressor between farchild or UA 175b & 176, which should i go for ?

[@mixbustv]

175/6 is defintiely not an "all around", and no plugin sound like a 670 but their 670 doesn't sound bad and it would be more versatile for sure.

[@spn7594]

@@mixbustv Thank you Sir

[@wyrlismike]

Just got my retro 176 and that thing has a release that goes 2x faster then an 1176, just saying, the thing slaps, especially in classic mode, it's like a cross between an 1176 and a Fairchild

[@mixbustv]

Yes it's cool comp, we have 5 at the other studio

[@wyrlismike]

damn you guys must be legit! i liked that photo of you with Manson the other day, congratulations on your success david@@mixbustv

[@alexandre7634]

Thanks for the video 💖 by the way, I always asked myself if there is any difference between the 1178 and the 1176, is it just a stereo 1176 or is it completely different sonically ?

[@mixbustv]

Stereo version but of the Revision H which is kind of a shitty revision

[@mixbustv]

The purple is basically a Revision E but done with modern components. It results is probably the brightest of any revision of any brand. I personally find it too bright and brittle, some people love it. (see my video on the history of the 1176 to understand all the revisions) 1178 is a stereo version of the rvev H which as I mentioned above is kind of the ugly child nobody wants, missing the good input and other things

[@mrnelsonius5631]

@@mixbustv I like the Pulsar 1178 plugin a lot but it doesn’t sound like a classic 1176 at all. For me it’s highly specific use cases, like a percussion bus where the elements are panned wide. Like it on overheads too sometimes.

[@BullyMaguire4ever]

According to UA, the attack time of the 176 is 100 microseconds to 1000 microseconds so at its slowest, it’s attack is 1ms. That’s very fast. I would not call that a slow attack time in any sense.

[@mixbustv]

Nobody talked about absolutes. If it's slower it's slower.

[@rBennich]

One goes to 11. 'Nuff said.

[@precisionsoundworksstudio]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@stupendousmusic4190]

Completely different “animals.” Many who use and have used the 175B and 176 say it makes everything sound like a record. Columbia records used to use the 175B/176 on a mix in to Pultechs.

[@mixbustv]

Nothing other than a good mix engineer make everything sounds like a record

[@stupendousmusic4190]

@@mixbustv Yep.

[@sleepisoptional]

obviously the 1176 is “1000” better 🤓