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Mixing 2-Stroke Gas Made Easy

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@rider65
@rider65 Жыл бұрын
I find that increasing the BTUs per pound is better than actually using higher octane gas. I started experimenting in 1992. Using regular pump gas in my race bikes. A mix ratio of about 12% to 15% percent of aromatics; toluene or xylene with a slight bit of methanol or denatured alcohol for stability. Basically I was mixing approximately a half gallon to 4 gallons of gas. The fuel mixture is denser, which burns hotter, creating more BTUs which results in more power and less pre detonation.
@tikka243412
@tikka243412 Жыл бұрын
Another great video from Jay! The formula for mixing gas to get an octane number is: ( [ % Fuel A ] x [ Octane of Fuel A ] ) + ( [ % Fuel B ] x [ Octane of Fuel B ] ) = Octane of Mixture Here’s an example. Let’s say you mix 3 gallons of 110 with 2 gallons of 100 and you want to know the octane of the resulting 5 gallon mixture. The percentage of 110 in the mix is 3/5 = 0.60 (60%). The percentage of the 100 octane fuel in the mix is 2/5 = 0.40 ( 40%). Plugging the information into the equation: (0.60 x 110) + (0.40 x 100) = 66 + 40 = 106 A good number I like to shoot for is 93 octane. It’s important if available to use ethanol free gas as ethanol has less energy per volume. 89 ethanol free mixed with a 110 leaded fuel like Sunoco standard or C12 is a good every day riding mixture. Works in the 125 RM and a high compression 250f. More isn’t always better. In addition to increasing octane the selected C12 “race” gas has a specific gravity. That plays a role in jetting for carbureted bikes. It effects how the fuel gets picked up through the jets. Specific gravity also plays a role in burn rate. 2 strokes can benefit from a lower specific gravity number for high burn rate and complete combustion. There are different additives to get octane. Additives such as lead or MMT contribute to increasing octane as well as higher refinement of base petroleum. This is my limited knowledge on fuels and just my 2 pennies. Oxygenated fuels are another topic altogether.
@jetdr
@jetdr Жыл бұрын
Depends on how hard you ride as well, if you are a track star on the pipe, you can run a high flash point pre mix like R50. if you do more trail riding, I would run a Maxima K2 or AMSOIL Dominator which has a much lower flash point. When I run track I use Klotx 110 with Castor 927, when I run single track I run half non ethanol pump and 110 mixed with K2. I have an 09 yz250 with almost zero internal engine wear.
@paulgriffin7273
@paulgriffin7273 Жыл бұрын
Best advice here. Way better than using no gloves and putting your hand in it!
@ryanshout8652
@ryanshout8652 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! best I can get gas wise where I am is 91 no ethanol. What oil would you mix with that for track riding? yz125
@jetdr
@jetdr 11 ай бұрын
@@ryanshout8652 Castor 927, or Klotz Super techniplate.
@diyjeff1838
@diyjeff1838 Жыл бұрын
I have those gas tanks. They make some cheap tube benders that keep the clear tube bent making filling your bike, or anything for that matter, much easier!!
@erichildreth7562
@erichildreth7562 Жыл бұрын
Yea these are great, I got one from Iron Pony and they really make a difference!! :)
@human1513
@human1513 Күн бұрын
In a 2022 KTM 300 XC I run 91 Octane Ethanol free. I recently verified the factory measurements on red plastic gas cans and found the labelling to be way off by more than 1 litre, 1 U.S. quart and more. I used 2 different measuring cups and a specific volume from 1 gas pump at a gas station. All 3 matched but noi gas can matched so I used a majic marker to mark the red gas cans I have. I keep the various volumes of gas : oil ratios on my phone for quick access. Or use a free premix app.
@mikebrown41182
@mikebrown41182 Жыл бұрын
Makes me excited that VP is working on something new for the two strokes 👌🏼. Love these segments Clark. 👍🏼
@Bcalhoun4423
@Bcalhoun4423 Жыл бұрын
C12 and klotz smells awesome 💨
@spencerclark2269
@spencerclark2269 Жыл бұрын
2-Strokes rule. Epic video
@noControl556
@noControl556 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a gallon sized jug that is marked and mix my gas 1 gal at a time vs. trusting the marking on the fuel jug, plus I'm always adding fuel to a jug that already has fuel in it. A lot easier than having to break out the calculator and guestimate on the decimal portion. Measure the gas, measure the oil in the ratio rite, then pour gas in the raio rite and pour back into the gas measure jug, then dump the whole thing in the gas can. Every bike gets is own can, and the only gas that gets put into the 2 stroke's can is pre-mixed so no chance of forgetting to add the oil.
@Davido50
@Davido50 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. 1 gas can per bike esp if use different ratios etc. Always did that in Ole days. Ratio Rite mixing cups are quite exact. Use fresh fuel. If fuel gets old put in a vehicle to burn it/or lawnmower. -Ohio
@bradmiller8361
@bradmiller8361 Жыл бұрын
I run 2- 5 gallon metal gas cans. At home I dump a half gallon of klotz hitrate octane booster in each. Next i put in my Amsoil dominator at 44:1. I then drive to the store and put in 4.5 gallons of 91 non-ethanol, "premium rec. gas" here in MN. I use the pump to tell me I put in the right amount of gas in each can. Now I have decent quality 100 octane at a fair price to go in my stock 21' yz250x. In the metal cans it lasts longer. I always out of habit shake the can before I pour gas in my bike. If I had a higher performance bike or motor I would probably run vp.
@no-namecrown5510
@no-namecrown5510 4 ай бұрын
In Australia we have 98 octane from Shell service stations. That's the only fuel I'll use.
@Davido50
@Davido50 4 ай бұрын
Nice. Highest we have here in Ohio 🇺🇸 is 93. I buy 5gal cans Sunoco Optima 100 octane unleaded & mix w/pump 93. Use that in both 2-stroke Suzuki RMs & 2 Yamaha sport quads. Also in my '24 Ranger Raptor 😉
@no-namecrown5510
@no-namecrown5510 4 ай бұрын
@@Davido50 the higher octane is also higher density so it has more legs
@mx5811
@mx5811 6 ай бұрын
I ran the recommended 30:1 on my 2022 YZ250 and fouled a lot of plugs. I think I will be mixing 40:1 from now on, thanks! 30:1 would probably be good if I was racing my bike on a track running the engine hard.
@westadam8890
@westadam8890 4 ай бұрын
Plug fouling and excess oil out of the exhaust is mostly related to poor jetting.
@AdventureAndy208
@AdventureAndy208 6 ай бұрын
Other points to add are the flash point of the oil for lower engine temp trail riding and certain natural oils like Castor 927 will separate with AvGas.
@stevenlocke5445
@stevenlocke5445 10 ай бұрын
For 30 some years I have went with 128 oz to a gallon so divide 128 and your ratio 128 divide 32 equals 4 so 4 oz to every gallon 128 divide by 40 equals 3.2 oz to a gallon etc.etc
@ios6605
@ios6605 6 ай бұрын
Try putting the flashlight in the top of the jug
@ht8628
@ht8628 Жыл бұрын
Good idea to change your float to copper or brass,puts tiny holes 🕳️ n plastic float
@twomuchskll
@twomuchskll Жыл бұрын
Love this channel ! Keep it going !
@a_drewski
@a_drewski Жыл бұрын
Wear some gloves guys, the amount of lead in avgas and c12 is insane.
@miatika
@miatika 9 ай бұрын
Didn’t you hear, gloves are for Nancy’s
@a_drewski
@a_drewski 9 ай бұрын
@@BooZoo24 that’s an L take buddy. I run leaded fuel in all of my bikes but I’m not going to intentionally soak my hands in cancer causing chemicals.
@camerononeel8887
@camerononeel8887 6 ай бұрын
I drink that shit daily
@chad3601
@chad3601 6 ай бұрын
Maybe just not wear your purse
@jessarellanes6648
@jessarellanes6648 5 ай бұрын
Okay
@billsynder9896
@billsynder9896 9 ай бұрын
The best way to mix 2 stroke fuel is to have a common mix for all your bikes . A pint of oil to 4 gallons of gas gives you 32 to 1 which works well for all bikes. If I am mixing bean oil for alchohol motors I mix two pints to five gallons for 20to one . If you have a lot of bikes or if you do long race weekends, the just having a can for the weekend works better than mixing two cans at a time. Also steel cans are much better for gas than plastic. I would only use plastic for alchohll.
@yzrippin
@yzrippin 7 ай бұрын
Pro tip a 12 oz gatorade bottle filled to the brim gives you a perfect 50 to 1 into 5 gallons of gas it's been 25 years I own a landscaping business I've never blown anything up
@TheCarlejoseph
@TheCarlejoseph Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips 👍
@1187titanium
@1187titanium 9 ай бұрын
It's even easier if you use metric system.10 liters is 10000 milliliters, 10000 divided by 32 is 312.5 so add about 310-315 milliliters of oil to the 10 liters of gas. I use a dollar store measure cup. Simple
@chihuahuaverde425
@chihuahuaverde425 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@jpesicka999
@jpesicka999 Жыл бұрын
Use T2. Best switch I've ever made. Instant 2 HP upgrade. No more mixing.
@a_drewski
@a_drewski Жыл бұрын
Not enough octane for a full mod.
@jpesicka999
@jpesicka999 Жыл бұрын
@@a_drewski 105 octane isn't enough? Horsecrap. I have a heavily ported engine (former Team ECC race bike). Bud racing head. Full fmf..
@a_drewski
@a_drewski Жыл бұрын
@@jpesicka999 run whatever you wanna run. My engine builder recommended c12 with a compression ratio of 13.5:1 and timing advanced a few degrees.
@jpesicka999
@jpesicka999 Жыл бұрын
@@a_drewski the reason he recommended C12 isn't just because it's more octane. It has something in it that gives the engine a cooling effect compared to a VP110. He's right tho C12 is really good stuff. I just like T2 because it's premixed and it's 5% oxygenated so it gives it a noticeable boost in performance.
@ianmotomess4767
@ianmotomess4767 Жыл бұрын
Love the content man love the two stroke content especially I got a 01 yz 250 and I love it. Keep up the good work and it would be awesome to see some of your riding footage
@Jay19299
@Jay19299 Жыл бұрын
Hey jay, can you do a video talking about avgas? I have watched your videos for a while, and hear you say “avgas” every once in a while. I recently found out what it means, and I have an airport that sells 100LL avgas. I’m considering using it straight in our YZ’s or maybe 50/50? If you could do a video explaining some benefits to using this fuel that would be much appreciated! Thank you
@bigshnitzeljesse
@bigshnitzeljesse 9 ай бұрын
Clear/white cans show premixed oil color. My 2 stroke oils have plenty of coloring
@kerryyeroyan8212
@kerryyeroyan8212 8 ай бұрын
Both gas and oil composition’s have changed since 1980; and I imagine that has effected the oil recommendation’s of the day. What would be the recommended for oil to be run in a freshly rebuild Yamaha MX175?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 8 ай бұрын
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@Factory928AC
@Factory928AC Жыл бұрын
I have a Yamaha that I’ve been running the same carb settings same spark plug same 50:1 ratio same gas same oil for a year and she’s tan krispyyyyy. Out of no where I fouled a plug. By fould I mean the plug is rich rich. I installed a new plug and fouled 3rd ride. I removed carb and cleaned throughly and even jetted down and inspected reeds. Ran good for a day then back to the same symptom of fouling. I’ve gone back to the ORIGINAL plug and cleaned it and it’s the only one that won’t foul? What gives? I even went back to the same setting I had when it ran krispy. Now she sounds fouled all the time. Compression is at 220 .
@moto3463
@moto3463 8 ай бұрын
50:1 too much need to run 32:1
@aquactrl1484
@aquactrl1484 9 ай бұрын
Im lucky I get leaded cam2 at the pump and use amsoil dominator from ace. Makes a nice cherry purple
@user-wd2xj5gm6c
@user-wd2xj5gm6c 6 ай бұрын
Great simple explanation on the mixing I always add just a bit more oil for 32:1 It never hurts never fouled a plug as long as you stay in the pipe but I always carry an extra and wrench in small back pack if my son and I are riding trails What do you guys recommend for a good break in procedure on a fresh 2stroke 85 or 112 ?? I use 16:1 mix for break in Do you heat cycle, half throttle etc?? Btw that 250 sounds like a rrriiiipppeerrrr
@justinsane7128
@justinsane7128 Жыл бұрын
Always smoke a camel no filter when you're pouring gas, safety last, old school stuff 😉
@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget an ice cold longneck too 🍺
@saraclark8966
@saraclark8966 Жыл бұрын
Nice tips -thanks!
@seanwahl1000
@seanwahl1000 Жыл бұрын
More important question, how the hell did you pour from the VP can without spilling it? I wish they had vents like sunoco cans. VP's quick spout is about as stiff as a board, which doesn't make it much easier.
@SpeedDemonExpress
@SpeedDemonExpress Жыл бұрын
Ratios are not by engine size, it's by factory specs. Check your owners manual if you don't know. And if you want to be a smart guy and decide you want more oil thinking it will lube the engine better, you better realize that means leaner fuel and you'll need to run bigger jets to do so.
@westadam8890
@westadam8890 4 ай бұрын
Pick your favorite oil pick your desired ratio use the highest octane fuel you can get out of the pump, jet your bike to that specific ratio and you'll have no problems.
@HP-hm3pn
@HP-hm3pn Жыл бұрын
Man that thing sounds good!
@NightWalkBestWalks
@NightWalkBestWalks Ай бұрын
I have a question about oil what would be better semi synthetic or fully synthetic or does it matter
@todayweride4779
@todayweride4779 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the ratio you use on the KTM 300 pls. Never used Klotz but interested
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
All depends. Email Jay direct for more tech
@OtisFlint
@OtisFlint 8 ай бұрын
60:1 and dont use that trash Klotz oil unless it's MX only.
@MotorBlazers
@MotorBlazers 15 күн бұрын
How much gas and oil do you need to run a 60 to 1 ratio on my KTM 65?
@RocksNRuts4
@RocksNRuts4 Жыл бұрын
ive nvr seen that brown/red oil always seen bluish
@squirrelcovers6340
@squirrelcovers6340 Жыл бұрын
Divide fuel volume by the ratio you need. EZPZ.
@2StrokeSmoke701
@2StrokeSmoke701 Жыл бұрын
I been doing trail riding on my KTM 125 SX 2022 and I been using pump gas 91 and mix at 40:1 with motorex oil should I change the ratio or keep it the same because in the manual said to mix at 40:1 and I been using that since I started riding my bike ?
@kylelangworthy9641
@kylelangworthy9641 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jay I have a off topic question for you. I have a 2004 RMZ 250 with a Athena 270 Big Bore a Carrillo forged high-compression piston and Rod and a pro circuit 496 exhaust. I was wanting to get hotcams for it. I was wondering what would be a better choice for my riding I ride trails and a lot of sand pits with big hill climbs. And is it possible to just buy either intake or exhaust instead of both to save money. And if I can use just one which one would give me a better power gain intake or exhaust. Any information will be greatly appreciated
@19Jharris
@19Jharris 6 ай бұрын
What would you do for a 2002 CR 250R - I’m in Canada I usually use 94 octane which is the highest quality gas. If I’m on the track what would you use
@riccoronado430
@riccoronado430 2 ай бұрын
I give mine 3 shakes any more is considered that your playing with it
@soxh8ter
@soxh8ter 7 ай бұрын
I never have run VP race gas in a bike but always run 91/92 now days. Is this a problem? I'm not fast by any means and started riding in 84. Never had a problem and have been 32:1 the entire time. I see a lot of these videos championing race gas, which is twice as expensive as the high octane pump gas. Now with that said I just got my kid a 2022 YZ125. Am I still good to run the high end pump gas in that thing or did I just buy a money pit?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 7 ай бұрын
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@DH-mf2lv
@DH-mf2lv 4 ай бұрын
Does it damage a 2-stroke engine to shut off the fuel and run it til the engine stops?
@jonatanperez8037
@jonatanperez8037 Ай бұрын
Why does one need to do this? Could someone pls explain me
@lorenzogioia4546
@lorenzogioia4546 Жыл бұрын
Should the mix ratio change when switching from pump gas to race gas? If so, by how much? For 250 & 300 2 strokes…
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@xxshiftlockxx
@xxshiftlockxx 4 ай бұрын
So what about 91 ethanol free with Stabil added? says it should be good for at least 6 months.
@milwaukeemike3557
@milwaukeemike3557 3 ай бұрын
Can I add additives in my gas mix like b12, seafood, tuneup in a bottle?
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc Жыл бұрын
Is avgas oxygenated requiring different jetting like people say
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
Great info Jay. I’ve been using VP110 and ethanol free super unleaded in a 50/50 mix @ 60:1 with 6 gallons and Bel Ray MC1 in my 97 YZ285 big bore kit for years. After rides I put the mixed fuel into an empty VP metal gas can. My local farm feed store has ethanol free and VP110 at the pump. What’s the difference between 110 and C12 ?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@cadenuyttendaele
@cadenuyttendaele Жыл бұрын
Im getting a 2006 ktm 65 sx and it says it uses a 1:60 fuel ratio but i feel like thats realy low
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@byronromero2344
@byronromero2344 2 ай бұрын
If i ride on the street what should be my ratio? Inride 85lw and 125 need some help
@Andrewrod25
@Andrewrod25 8 ай бұрын
I have a 2024 ktm 250 sx. What gas and mixture should I run? Thank u
@jessegray4819
@jessegray4819 6 ай бұрын
The dealer told me to run 32:1 on my new yz250, any reason why you guys run it leaner?
@JAMTOAM
@JAMTOAM Жыл бұрын
what ratio should i run on a 1971 ke 125 2 stroke with carb and should gas line have a fuel filter on it or no cause doesnt oil get caught in gas line filter i re building this bike
@toddginter3111
@toddginter3111 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. Amsoil says to mix there Dominator oil at 50:1 what are your thoughts? I have always been a race gas 32:1.
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@nicktobin2840
@nicktobin2840 Жыл бұрын
I want to run race gas on my 250 4 stroke what should I be looking for?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@garywalther7939
@garywalther7939 Жыл бұрын
question I live in Pennsylvania we can still buy 89 octane ethanol free at the pump. Can you get that in California? Or would it be better for me to use VP fuel for my 2 Stroke bike.
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@RUSTY-A-L
@RUSTY-A-L 4 ай бұрын
Have you ever used the VP T2 premix? Results?
@hencetirta7633
@hencetirta7633 Жыл бұрын
C12 vs t2 what better .for two stroke
@a_drewski
@a_drewski Жыл бұрын
T2 for a stockish motor. C12 for a full mod.
@2kballout242
@2kballout242 4 ай бұрын
Can I use the same vp fuel your using for my ktm 150 sx
@majorlee1
@majorlee1 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people mix the race gas with pump gas? To bring the octane down a bit? I always just run straight VP110
@viciouscycles88
@viciouscycles88 Жыл бұрын
Bc if you don’t have a high compression motor your just wasting your money on race gas. Only purpose for it in a stock bike is it’s ethanol free and better quality.
@dorianrodriguez7591
@dorianrodriguez7591 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 yz85 and I run my gf bike on 40:1 mixed half half with 93 pump and sunoco 110 leaded race fuel is this a ok mix ? We started mixing it 35:1 but is this ok to mix these two fuels ?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
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@pumkineater69__
@pumkineater69__ Жыл бұрын
I have a 08 ktm 65 sx and i rev it up now and then what ratio should i use
@MotorBlazers
@MotorBlazers 26 күн бұрын
Can I run 32 to one on my KTM 85
@mikebarnato7632
@mikebarnato7632 Жыл бұрын
Mixing gas and hauling ass 🤪✅💙🤙👨🏼‍🦳💪
@ejm122287
@ejm122287 4 ай бұрын
Can you run 40.1 on a yz125?!?
@user-uf6lt6yv8u
@user-uf6lt6yv8u 4 ай бұрын
1-50 2% good for yz250 ?
@johntaylor8582
@johntaylor8582 Жыл бұрын
What about non ethanol?
@RocksNRuts4
@RocksNRuts4 Жыл бұрын
this was ez??? lol my kx80 was 32-1 does that sound right?
@christianwasyliw502
@christianwasyliw502 4 ай бұрын
Ok first tip I need …..how the hell do I stop spilling it?….i get more in my toilet bowl waking up drunk on a Saturday morning !!!
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone have different ratios for different brands?
@eliriley6179
@eliriley6179 Жыл бұрын
Just like cars, different brand different engine. The correct gas to oil ratio is different for all engines.
@NOTaboykisserbtw
@NOTaboykisserbtw 9 ай бұрын
What does a yz85 use??
@timothykelly5588
@timothykelly5588 Жыл бұрын
how many thousands of times have I done that
@bouldernelsonbigfoot
@bouldernelsonbigfoot 11 ай бұрын
Wash ur hand man. Good video.
@kingkong81icloud
@kingkong81icloud Жыл бұрын
Just put 150 ml an 5 litres of petrol
@bobjones6468
@bobjones6468 Жыл бұрын
Benzene on the skin
@terryfonz4603
@terryfonz4603 Жыл бұрын
Man that’s bad advise you’ve done a video on KTM and how the call for 60:1. Why would you say any 125 at 32:1? KTM bikes will run like crap with those high oil ratios. Most of them are 60:1 Run you manufacturers suggest oil ratio people and yes I’ve seen National level kids hold that bike wide open at 60:1 that’s what it’s meant to do!
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 2 ай бұрын
First of all buddy yiur mixture is way off the right mixture for your cr is 32.to 1 your way is way off start over a at 32to 1 this us why your red and blue cr is bogging bad
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 2 ай бұрын
And this is exactly why the other guy had bad bogging issues to wrong fuel mixture 32 to 1 is factory stick with this mixture it will fly agsin
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 2 ай бұрын
It's a track bike not a bush bike fuel mixture must be set at factory mixture
@rsanchez5676
@rsanchez5676 7 ай бұрын
So the ratio rite cup figures it all out for you. You made it so confusing with math formulas and theories. Wth
@Rickwaldron1960
@Rickwaldron1960 2 ай бұрын
No one cares about b.t.u factory settig is 32.to 1 end of story
@garyvause2475
@garyvause2475 9 ай бұрын
You talk to much
@user-il3bf4su8r
@user-il3bf4su8r Жыл бұрын
I have a 0.8L gas tank can someone tell me how much petrol and 2 stroke gas I should use? (I’m using a kxd01 pro upgraded dirt bike)
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