Mixing Rates. Are you doing it wrong?

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[@progressionspod]

Love this dude! We need more people talking about rates in this industry. So many people keep their rates a "secret" to their peers and I have no idea why. It helps us all if we help each other get better at the business.

[@panorama_mastering]

Thanks man! It's such a "dirty" topic!

[@CypiXmusic]

That was honestly such a good video. Not just for mixing rates. But every creative freelance work!

[@Leoguerrero86]

This year everything has been positivly changing in my studio since i take your advice, from the technical point and your perspective on things like this. Thanks is not enoght !

[@panorama_mastering]

I'm super happy to hear! Don't be a stranger ping me an email I'd love to hear some of the stuff you've been working on!

[@Leoguerrero86]

@@panorama_mastering For sure 🙌🙌🙌

[@natejohnson91]

13:23 That's a GOLD NUGGET of wisdom right there my friend!! 🙌

[@panorama_mastering]

Thanks man!

[@Rolanoid]

Albums: 50% upfront and 25% half way through is a smart move. Maybe they only get mp3's until the final 25% is paid.

[@panorama_mastering]

Spot on.

[@DaftyBoi412]

I was a student studying a bunch of music tech related things in the early 00's, and one of the side courses was music business, but they just don't teach what's in this vid (or at least didn't). They talk about lables and record deals yada yada ... but nothing about how you as engineer are actually going to make your own money running your own business selling your services direct to a client! It's all things you had to work out yourself when you actually start needing to ask people to give you money. It's some very useful info that I'm sure will not only be highly valuble to many just getting into mixing, but probably to quite a few people that have been doing it for some time as well (or into any business or trade at all really)!

[@progressionspod]

It is a sad truth to education that the core skills of business and finances are left out so often. I had the same experience you did in music school. Thank god for the internet though!

[@Notinserviceij]

​@progressionspod it's because while the lecturers may be awesome at what they do they weren't successful doing the business side of things Most likely sometime you get the odd few that are successful but are teaching purely cause they enjoy Anyway, they weren't successful at the business side, so do you think they are gonna teach you about heat rates and when to charge different rates and so on ?

[@DaftyBoi412]

@@Notinserviceij Teachers follow a curriculum set out by the school/college/university. They don't wing it and make it up as they go (at least they shouldn't be, I'm sure some still do going by some of my highschool teatchers lol).

[@panorama_mastering]

Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym

[@DaftyBoi412]

@@panorama_mastering I also have a gym instructor cert. 😅 I did it for myself though, and never planned to teach it (other than to friends or family if they needed help with it). 😜

[@studiovinden]

Thank you for this, it was a really good exercise to assess my own place in the mixing world. The difficult thing is to try and bypass the market rates around and charge what you think you're worth, I'm at the point where I charge solely on the basis of having enough clients to keep busy. I've been pondering charging more but I am a bit worried that I won't have enough clients. At my level (not my day job, doing indie music, 25 years experience), people still expect the mix to be dirt cheap. I wonder if charging more would actually send a message that gets me more serious clients (i.e. clients that appreciate the value of a mix more) or if I'm shooting myself in the foot. 😊

[@sionnachs_workshop]

This was fantastic info, thanks! 🙏💯

[@JazzyFizzleDrummers]

I always have a hard time pricing myself as an engineer because I also have 3 music performance degrees including a masters in jazz and contemporary music. I also understand some EE and coding. I'm not exactly a beginning mixer because I've been working on my own projects and projects for friends since high-school but I don't necessarily have a lot of places to point to for "results" because I haven't saved most of it, but I also need to feed myself and pay rent. I haven't been making as much as a performer or recording artist since 2020 so I'm in a tight spot. I've been charging 90 usd a track for unlimited revisions but it's not sustainable. I have a studio as well. Should I switch to hourly, or is my cumulative experience, ear, and access to equipment and software worth charging more?

[@thevaultrecordingstudio]

You say you have the skills. find the people that will give you great songs and then create those results you are capable of. Now that you have 3-5 Solid songs, set your rates at least 180-225 USD. At least! This gives you at least a little breathing room to properly prep, and offer all the extra deliverables at the end. create a good preset message you can modify that includes the process and the value you deliver that many artists may not consider in the early stages. Bless best of luck!

[@Emare100489]

I needed this thanks, even in 10 years time

[@panorama_mastering]

No worries! My pleasure!

[@Mickey.Nox.]

This was great :D

[@SHAMESOUNDS]

Where can I ask more questions on this video, i have to come back to it

[@gh0stransist0r]

good stuff

[@shanegrush]

Man, this is great advice. 👏🏻

[@panorama_mastering]

Appreciate it!

[@iljakorjukin]

Chasing money is such a pain in the ass. I personally like getting everything upfront, but sometimes it’s not an option. At the end of the project turns out, that client cannot pay me back unless they make any money from that project I worked on. It is completely ridiculous, this stops my business from progression. Cannot pay my bill with the work I have done for people. Waiting 4-7 months to be paid is so stupid... It’s time to make changes, Ive really done it all wrong…

[@panorama_mastering]

No money no honey.

[@benjamin3248]

Would you charge a label more for a mix than you would for an independent artist?

[@panorama_mastering]

No, I don't.

[@SuperFake777]

You gotta check out METRIC HALO MIXHEAD

[@bakerlefdaoui6801]

Dope !

[@americatunedright1211]

Great stuff🎉. Right now I’m a $2 whore for reviews, once I let go of my ankles I’ll revisit this video.😊

[@benwaveproducer]

nice advices, thank you.

[@PeterPan-lu7cw]

I still don’t get the shirt 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

There is a brand called, Anti Social Social Club. This is an audio pun replica.

[@Studio22mix]

I don’t watch “you’re doing it wrong” 😑

[@southernman2]

If you commented you clicked on the video

[@Studio22mix]

@@southernman2 clicked but didn’t watch 😉

[@mrdub7777]

Looking for who asked.

[@panorama_mastering]

Check it now buddy ;)

[@Studio22mix]

@@panorama_masteringThat’s really nice of you, thank you 😊

[@Shuhredded]

great videos love the channel ... also sent you a message

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

Invaluable info: thank you sir for sharing your journey and all that it entails! 🫡

[@panorama_mastering]

My pleasure!

[@tillkaefert]