Mixing up GEM - The Best Race Fuel you Haven't Heard of yet.

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Uncle Scott

Uncle Scott

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@bbcnova56
@bbcnova56 5 ай бұрын
Now we need gemn!!
@christart8461
@christart8461 4 ай бұрын
@@bbcnova56 gas ethanol methanol nitro ??
@phydiux
@phydiux 3 ай бұрын
I run M5 as my Methanol component... It has a splash of than N you're talking about :)
@shaunwerning4975
@shaunwerning4975 Жыл бұрын
Have absolutely bothered you asking questions about GEM in the recent past... very much appreciate this video and probably won't have reason to bother you over it in the future. Ha!
@christart8461
@christart8461 5 ай бұрын
I cannot get him to reply to me.. how much more power is this fuel making?
@shaunwerning4975
@shaunwerning4975 5 ай бұрын
@@christart8461 that's a question without a definite answer. GEM will probably not directly convey additional power like nitro or other oxygenated fuels but it may allow the engine to be tuned differently than when on pump gas or E85 which could then yield more power. More timing, more air density and so on. Just depends...
@suprcandy
@suprcandy Жыл бұрын
Nice video Sir. Have you tried pre-mixing fuel and store it for some time? Does it separate or go bad in any way?
@phydiux
@phydiux Жыл бұрын
The point of adding the Ethanol in GEM is to prevent separation. I've had fuel sit over the winter and used it the next season without any problems.
@Colt_10R80
@Colt_10R80 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this, such a clever idea
@trtrevenen
@trtrevenen Жыл бұрын
show us the dyno sheets when you get them
@thastinger345
@thastinger345 Ай бұрын
Damn, this is an even bigger pita than driving 50 miles each way to get to an e85 pump that puts out e90.
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 6 ай бұрын
However, there is a KZbin video that the US military did a test that showed that Methanol did more damage than ethanol. eg that there were more metal particles in the oil. this test was probably done in the 70s, so a long time ago
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 6 ай бұрын
Toluene or Xylene Does Raise the octane in MON more than alcohol-based fuels? But the disadvantage is that these are strong solvents. But on the other hand, apparently, for example, ethanol has stronger knock resistance than what the octane level says. Certainly more oxygen too
@JoeWrenches
@JoeWrenches Жыл бұрын
Uncle Scoooooooooott, what the specific gravity of this GEM mixture?
@phydiux
@phydiux Жыл бұрын
Theoretically? .788. Can I borrow your Hydrometer?
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 6 ай бұрын
In Sweden, there should be no Methanol in regular E85 In addition to ethanol and gasoline, E85 in Sweden also contains the denaturants MTBE/ETBE and isobutanol
@918sonicsupra
@918sonicsupra 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any data to see if this fuel will help with high iat’s with it being 45% methanol? I’m thinking about mixing my own and running it versus running e98
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 6 ай бұрын
Surely there should be equipment that can tell exactly what octane content is in the petrol? .Or that can show ethanol content. There are cars that can show the octane content on a screen
@frankgonzalez9302
@frankgonzalez9302 11 ай бұрын
Hello there I was just curious once you mix the fuel what is the shelflife?
@byronboost
@byronboost 3 ай бұрын
Can you use hydrous ethanol
@Robertrogers-p2y
@Robertrogers-p2y 4 ай бұрын
How does this react in a e85 tester
@Andersljungberg
@Andersljungberg 6 ай бұрын
If you are a regular mischievous driver, it may not matter that much if it is 100 octane or 102 octane ?
@julianmoore6318
@julianmoore6318 3 ай бұрын
Im curious, if the goal is to make the same values as E85, why add the E85 at all? I feel like once you have mixed the methanol and race gas any amount of ethanol from 0 gallons to 100 gallons would make the same stoic value? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@phydiux
@phydiux 3 ай бұрын
Gasoline is not inherently miscible with Methanol. Just mixing the two, the Gas/Methanol will separate and you'll have a bad time with that as your AFR swings from somewhere around 6.5 all the way up to 14.7. The Ethanol in GEM binds it all together, ensuring nothing separates. I have a paper somewhere about this where they tested it, the value was around a minimum 8-10%, but it's fuzzy and it's been a long time since I read it so I might be off on that value. But with the amount of Ethanol I use in this mix, I have not experienced any sort of separation.
@julianmoore6318
@julianmoore6318 3 ай бұрын
@@phydiux unfortunately... pump E may not be the answer to mixing, I didn't test it but I'm wondering if I was around 76/78% E in company to 98% in other ethanol based fuels. Long story short it seperated and I burnt up my motor 🤦🏽 tune was on, fueling was on, timing was safe. Some plugs read like M1 plugs, others read like race gas plugs. Learning experience for sure.
@byronboost
@byronboost 3 ай бұрын
Can you mix with c16?
@christart8461
@christart8461 9 ай бұрын
How much more power are you making off of this stuff compared to pump 93 when your AFR is right?
@christart8461
@christart8461 6 ай бұрын
How much more power over pump gas ?
@Jason_Bacon
@Jason_Bacon Жыл бұрын
One for that Al Gore rhythm machine.
@gapu263
@gapu263 11 ай бұрын
What lambda do you target on this mixture compared to E85/E98? Did you get a chance to test it on the dyno?
@phydiux
@phydiux 6 ай бұрын
It's the same air:fuel ratio as E85.
@colt2x45
@colt2x45 Жыл бұрын
Are you intercooled?
@christart8461
@christart8461 5 ай бұрын
Are you doing this for emissions or more power ??
@user-ki8zf1rp1e
@user-ki8zf1rp1e 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure with the presence of meth, it'd probably have a slight edge over race ethanol due to the latent heat of evaporative properties of meth. If anything, this is more for quantity purposes, race gas is 30% more expensive than ethanol and meth is nearly 20% cheaper than ethanol. Undiluted meth is corrosive and lacks the energy density of ethanol and gasoline. It's a fuel that CANNOT sit in the tank and HAS TO be flushed out after every use with gasoline or you'll risk damaging fuel components, especially injectors. Assuming you had one pale of gas, one pale of ethanol, and two meth pales, you'd have nearly enough to make five pales if mixed to stoichiometric like in the video. Anybody jumping through these hoops for emissions has been misled, you'd be better off running gasoline and slightly leaning out the map on low load cruising scenarios.
@Jamal-fz7pn
@Jamal-fz7pn 6 ай бұрын
Why not use 100% meth ?
@phydiux
@phydiux 6 ай бұрын
Fuel pump, injector and class requirements. Also, with this fuel I have no change in the tune between street and track tunes, as it is a drop in replacement for e85.
@a_common_weeb
@a_common_weeb Жыл бұрын
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