Power Gains on a Stock NA K24 || Gasoline vs E85 vs E85 + Nitro

[@wrighty338]

Good power starts with good fuel and good spark. You should totally have done a rip on just Nitro, for science of course

[@realstreetperformance]

Agreed. For science of course.

[@jameslowry3208]

For science!!!

[@Roakt]

Science is important come on !!!

[@CypronieNelson]

Can the nitro be mixed with the 93 in the same ratio​@@realstreetperformance

[@billybobbob3003]

@@realstreetperformance this engine isnt stock you arent using the stock intake and you dont go into specifics what model k24 this is either.

[@judewoods9939]

I would love to see the fully stock k24 on full 50/50 or even higher nitro!!!

[@realstreetperformance]

Yes!! Same here

[@LordMustangGT93]

@judewoods9939 pfi speed had one on there dyno couple years back now. Made 600whp+ NA! 100% nitro I believe.

[@HioSSilver1999]

That fuel is a power adder at that point

[@jordanleng204]

Just saw your TRC video in La Fea! Awesome stuff, great to see you at Real St

[@SPTuning]

Thanks dude!

[@kennyhyde309]

Such a badass simple video! I love this type of content!

[@realstreetperformance]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@hondaguy2532]

Just ordered few more thingsfrom ya,man this some bad ass content!!!

[@realstreetperformance]

We appreciate the support!! Thank you

[@AshLongie]

You guys are amazing doing this for us thank you for taking the time much love from UK

[@awdboosted]

Cool video! I would love to see a comparison between pump E85 vs canned E85. It would be cool to see if the gains are worth the additional costs.

[@zeroyon9]

That was great, the pace of the information is spot on.

[@dreednlb]

Love what you've been doing lately. Keep it up.

[@ProjectAjax]

Awesome. Love this type of testing content!

[@thatfordguy2268]

This was interesting, it's all in the spark timing. Engine Masters did this same experiment with a stock ls1 and did not tune the ecu. The different types of fuel made minimal differences in hp and torque.🤔👍

[@ocean8930]

very interesting content !

[@realstreetperformance]

Thank you!

[@daveyt4802]

Probably why they run 2 spark plugs per cylinder and 44 amp ignition in TF. If one fails, another can try to ignite all that fuel. If not, BOOM!

[@Bacongrease00]

Yes crazy cylinder pressure makes it really hard for it to jump.

[@sheheensumad]

Amazing video!!! 😎

[@sparda1123]

Plesae do more content on this fuel. There's not really a ton of info out on how amazing this fuel is! I just picked up 10 gallons today from you guys for my upcoming dyno day.

[@matthewvarnam4302]

I seen a video a while back someone used a 50/50 mix on a stock LS 5.3 i think it made a extra 200hp just from adding 50/50 and timing it was pretty cool. If I'm not mistaken I think the video was from Cleetus Mcfarland channel on KZbin.

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

It was Cleeter

[@Fk8td]

Nitro fuel is crazy. You can make way more with extra ignition timing on both one R and nitro blend.

[@Jeromy247]

Full nitro test will Be awesomely

[@SPTuning]

Very cool stuff!

[@shadleybam3140]

Nice test 👌

[@highpsiguy4085]

You should've tested C85 as well. I see something like 5%-7% MORE power than e85 (with boost). I run c85 in my DSM. Its about $55/5 gallons local at a VP Fuels distributor. I use it during track days. And pump e85 to run around on the street

[@RolanTHUNDER]

What were the ignition numbers prior to and then during the ethanol run?

[@superconscious.]

🔥

[@LordMustangGT93]

E85 is not big in my state unless you buy by the drum only. Race gas is still the thing here, and i still get the same mileage to which is nice. And i dont drive these car much so e85 would be all sorts of problems for me.

[@realstreetperformance]

Alot of our customers who only occasionally run their ethanol cars will pickle gasoline into the system before the car sits to prevent problems. Thanks for watching!

[@LordMustangGT93]

@realstreetperformance yeah, this is just super unconvenient af. Thanks for the vid!

[@ummduhgmail]

I run pump e85 and it sits around a lot. In fact it sits full all winter with no more forethought than filling up the tank. This summer I've only run through 2 tanks so far.... No issues. I do have an ethanol specific fuel filter and ptfe fuel lines, but nothing special beyond that.

[@barnes4g63]

Great video I would love to see a higher nitro percentage on a stockish K24❤

[@daveyt4802]

NICE! Just wondering about oil and fuel contamination since you need so much more of the anol fuels.

[@realstreetperformance]

On race engines that run these types of fuels for a long period of time, they typically see oil washed with fuel after some time racing, but since we only did a short test we didnt see much if any fuel present in our oil.

[@foxxrider250r]

@@realstreetperformancehow does fuel get into the oil?

[@Racecarhuey]

Enjoy these stock motor data videos

[@KesterJohnson]

love it love it love it....

[@Neukom720]

My vote highest power on stock unopened k24a2 on pure nitro or highest ratio possible, I know pure nitro even on small motors take a huge fuel system because the amounts that must be sprayed but I really wanna see how much power could be made! I bet it would be impressive!

[@LPFM28]

Nice! Like to see same fuels on high compression NA engine

[@poubs_entertainment]

plz try same but with spark plug colder one and play with the gap also put a k20 rsx oil pump in it we whant some rev also you can monitor temps with different fuel

[@ziggybmw]

Great comparison, but would LOVE to see how advancing the timing to fully take advantage of the fuel change would affect the results. That's the whole reason for changing to a "better" fuel right?

[@LMBC6Brian]

Nothing will change at all if you arent seeing any knock and not adding any timing. Period. If you are seeing knock on a lower octane fuel, then a higher octane will help eliminate that knock and you will make the power you were tuned to make at whatever spark advance was setup.

[@Rodman8500]

It would be nice to see some rounds with various stage 2 cams.

[@COMotorsports]

So no ignitionn changes at all? Just fuel, crazy.

[@WatcherOfTube]

Would love to see the difference of each with tuning added

[@FaithLyo]

why didn't you do a 50/50 test added to the gasoline as well? would have like to see the change it made

[@christart8461]

with that inline 4 cylinder motor how much advanced timing did you run with the 12.5% nitro mix .. I have E98 methanol & nitro here .. I dont want to damage my engine ,, Thx I relly hope to here back ..I have a ZX10 R ninja I would love to try this with

[@deanwilliamson1373]

I think it would’ve been better if timing was optimized as well. Nobody is going to use those fuels without going to the trouble of adjusting timing as well.

[@kenny240]

I wonder how well this would work combining the nitro/meth mix with 93 octane instead of E85. And how much it might affect the knock threshold of an engine. I know a few applications where this might be more cost effective than using C16 or some other pure race fuel as a means to pickle a fuel system. Applications where compression is on the extreme end (14:1+)

[@dTheHammerb]

HONDA POWER!!!

[@realstreetperformance]

Woowooo

[@khemrajhsamaroo3671]

What's the difference in afr between the 3 fuels ?

[@daveyt4802]

I think 9.8 to 1 for Ethanol and WAY more for the 50/50, like 2 to 1 ....

[@daveyt4802]

Cheap methanol? HEET yellow. Well, not really. Ha!

[@realstreetperformance]

We kept the lambda target the same between all three fuels, so very little (if any) lambda difference between runs. Thanks for watching!

[@daveyt4802]

@@dillon_r_hansen Looks like 4.05 to 1 for the 50/50 would be best.

[@h2r_a]

Do you recommend any additional additives such as Vp Racing M2 UPPER CYLINDER LUBRICANT - SCENTED? I am going to use my car with flexible gasoline and I want to take care of my engine. I also use it from time to time with m1

[@hectorperez1528]

What size of injectors and pump is on that k24? Is it still a returnless fuel system?

[@stephbarbershop2518]

Why not pump E85?

[@AshLongie]

Any timing changes ? I always thought you have to increase timing as normal fuel is knock limited ?

[@SpeedstarM]

What calculations are you referring to and which changes are being made to the ecu for the fuel change ?

[@2jzhx60]

Did you tune for more ignition advance on E85 or wasnt the engine knock limited on gasoline?

[@triplethreatzxandzedd6746]

If I'm only planning for 250-275hp NA is it really as 50° vtc, intake swap, premium gas & a tune?

[@edwardaloftis6705]

What ever happened to regular 104 octane pump gas. That's what it was when I was a teenager and now I'm almost 70.

[@amirst110]

Can you add for the test just octane booster?

[@AdinSLaboy]

That's while Pablo like to see those numbers of difrents awsome I migh try that 50 50 on my Da and see what happen

[@tab686]

Do you have this segment in a boosted application?

[@carllourenznaidoo2470]

What’s the downsides of nitro and e85? Will you not destroy the fuel lines and cylinders bores over time?

[@jefferymarley43]

What brand and size fuel rail is that?

[@CamoSnowman]

I'm surprised the ethanol made more power all things being the same and just switching fuel. Obviously the dyno doesn't lie but neither does physics. Ethanol is less power dense than gas. So, theoretically, it with exact same timing and stoichiometric fuel ratios. I believe ethanol should make less power? From my understanding ethanol has a higher octane rating and cooling effect so you can put more timing to it and have more air density thus creating more power than gas. Any other ideas on this I'd love to know.

[@Ochumvru]

Is this actually a full stock (RBB) K24? Stock VTC and stock oil pump?

[@realstreetperformance]

In this video, yes.

[@steveyoutube1709]

what coolant temp?

[@elmoz122]

Where did Jay go

[@matheusrgomes]

What gas can be used on NA car/bike to make more power with stock O2 ECU?

[@hectorperez1528]

Where all fuels tests with the same tune?

[@j3boii]

Should test Only 50% on that stock 24

[@Spudstrodamus]

Keep upping the nitro to see what percent sends a rod out of the block lol

[@BulliKid]

Was timing changed at all during those 3 different fuels?

[@GTRliffe]

what a shame-missed opportunity! play with timing mam! show us the data like operating temps or exhaust temps, maybe tell us why the fuel is better??

[@sanjeevramsaran8851]

We want back Jay

[@theniceneighbor]

Stock k24 with 248?🤔 I see the skunk header but this doesn't smell right. K24a2 is like 210 stock

[@davetysdal5442]

$190 for a 5G of VP Nitro. All that fuel. Some make it into the oil?

[@justRD1]

you should have put disclaimers in here about not mixing nitro with gasoline.

[@foxxrider250r]

Ah shit, at first I misread and thought it was KA24

[@HioSSilver1999]

Those fuels are power adders

[@deweberis2709]

I have my restrictions to these stand alone fuel comparisons 🤔 [1] People use fancy fuels to increase the pre-detonation treshold and its kind of useless unless a turbo engine with optimized tunning is used to make the most of it. Otherwise its a waste of money to get those small gains. Old factory stock ECU won't provide the tunning amplitude w/ spark intensity and fuel flow adjustments. [2] Pre-mixing fuels 'by-hand' doesn't guarantee an homogeneous mixture at a molecular level. Some fuel might be predominant at the botton of the tank. [3] Also don't forget street pump gas also has some Ethanol in it at an undisclosed and variable percentage.

[@dreamchaser407]

I’m calling my tuner right now 😂

[@ICTPerformance268]

🇦🇬 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. 🙇🏾‍♂️

[@Jroc860]

Next video throw the whole can of 50 at it we wanna see a party 🎉

[@SaffordSpeedSolutions]

Run that thing on nitro 👀

[@m0sad]

A stock 2j runs will be nice.. (;

[@realstreetperformance]

Lets do a stock NA 2JZ plus Nitro...

[@m0sad]

@realstreetperformance you just want to blow something.....

[@TheShamiester]

Soooo… Let’s dump that 50/50 straight in there 😭

[@realstreetperformance]

I want to!

[@daveyt4802]

Dangerous! Hydro lock and bent rods? HUGE injectors and fuel pump too.

[@TheShamiester]

@@daveyt4802 “it’ll be fine” Famous last words xD

[@TheShamiester]

@@realstreetperformance for science 🗿

[@pr0n5tar]

Frist

[@Stroked302Mustang]

Just run M1

[@V8Lenny]

If E85 made more power than gasoline there was not enough timing for gasoline.

[@K24_Rizo]

😶

[@ziggybmw]

No, the opposite. E85 has a higher octane rating than typical pump gas, which means you can advance the timing more vs gasoline due to the higher threshold for knock. That's where the increase in power on E85 comes from. Granted, not all setups on all engines will see a big increase, but it "tends" to. It also has a better latent heat of evaporation, which helps "pull" more heat out of the incoming air, therefore lowering the incoming air temps, increasing power still. This is all why boosted engines LOVE e85.

[@K24_Rizo]

@@ziggybmw not to mention this is race blend ethanol vs pump gasoline..

[@V8Lenny]

@@ziggybmw E85 ignites and burns faster, less timing.

[@stephbarbershop2518]

Not really "stock" more like stage 1