Eh I don't think so. For example if you brighten it up on the master and one element becomes to bright, go back to the mix and adjust it, don't try to fix it in the master.
@IAmDek5 ай бұрын
Its more about moment when you work with master and fixing some mixing stuff, this is still mastering
@darzebmusic19845 ай бұрын
If you have to do that is because the mixing stage is not finished yet
@tubeo943 ай бұрын
Eh something wrong with your mix
@randonnelson73553 ай бұрын
@@tubeo94 that’s exactly what I was saying in my example haha thanks
@thisisgoga5 ай бұрын
man do what ever works for you you guys just make people overthink sh!T
@Scorpiondaily5 ай бұрын
For beginners tips: I would advise to master in the same session because normally you will want to change the mix when you start to master it
@louie2g4 ай бұрын
@@Scorpiondaily I think it's best to save the mix session, Master in a new session and endure Trial & Error. That way you get repetitions of mastering properly in and can train your ear and progress. Fastest way to become advanced because it forces you to compartmentalise your workflow and make decisions based on which part of the process you're at. and then finally, reflect and see references, take notes and repeat. also mastering in the same session may end up very resource heavy
@mr-ladi6175 ай бұрын
I agree with the last part. "try to not master in mixing but in exported file audio". In my experience, i agree! But the most important is: "Try to master in mixing "
@Sixorwave4 ай бұрын
Please don’t overthink this ESPECIALLY if you make EDM. These mixing rules confused the fck out of me for the longest time until I stopped caring about these rules and started mixing with feeling. Obviously it’s important to understand these rules, but please don’t confine yourself to them.
@justinkeess2 ай бұрын
Exactly my experience!
@MichaelJohn-xl9zn5 ай бұрын
quickest way to master, open a lufs meter & maximus turn up the gain knob until it hits your target of lufs add 3.0 saturation, pull the ceiling down on maximus to trim off the peaks and ur done. remember mastering is just loudness and colouring ur sound so if you aren't happy with the project Mastering won't help.
@itswhzly5 ай бұрын
If you make edm/heavy bass music we all know you mix and master as you go, cause the master usually just has a clipper. Every genre is different :)
@bluebird19545 ай бұрын
Fr 😳🤔
@tubeo945 ай бұрын
Not me and a lot of people dude. We might turn the mastering chain on as we produce and mixing. But we do turn it off and print to stereo for master
@itswhzly5 ай бұрын
interesting, there are no rules! ignorant of me to say "we all know" @@tubeo94
@SUB-WFR4 ай бұрын
@@tubeo94 nah i just make everything sound nice as I go.
@PneumanaBreathwork5 ай бұрын
What I’m learning is that some of these mastering bus plugins use up a lot of cpu, so the bounce lets you make use of over sampling on the master bus depending on how powerful your system is.
@Cimerforthesound5 ай бұрын
first time I will disagree with you mate, because for so many reason you can't tell what is good or not on a session, of course it's "better" to export, but not nowadays with computers who will run project with hundreds of tracks with no problem Just a question of preferences for me I guess ;) But the advice for the fresh ears is 100 legit tho ;)
@calvingudu92375 ай бұрын
This is not true for all people. You have to approach this music thing as making music, not some science. I have always been disappointed with other people mastering my work. So I am one of those who think about what a track sounds like and consider if it captures the audience. In conclusion, I honk that mastering for most cases is way over rated and kept as some sort of mystery. So the answer is YES you can mix and master your own work. Just get the right tools and don’t over think it and complicate it.
@recordingriot34506 ай бұрын
Yep exactly, I just like light comp and get those volume levels comparative but master in a different project trust this man!!!
@charlespookman3805 ай бұрын
Yeah...I always focus on a static mix before I ever even think about mastering
@carlos-pratspratsonthebeat11455 ай бұрын
Is about the Result , If you know what you are doing there you go . Is posible to do it
@samplesol5 ай бұрын
Well I made a masterchain which i always use while mixing somehow 😅
@tasenova27173 ай бұрын
I say you make groundrules for yourself. if it's an album, then be organized. get the template organized in the way you work fast, lay the foundation. turn up the daw master volume and get the headroom you need. if you know how to get those peaks down, and keep percieved dynamics, then you will barely have to master. just figure out your targets. aim and fire.
@1554nd6 ай бұрын
I think this goes for a lot of music makers when i say it but dont even bother mastering your songs if you are either young or a beginner. Just make as much shit as u can, trust me, yyou willnt regret it.
@SanMario955 ай бұрын
This is probably a better thing to worry about. If you get good enough, you probably won’t be the one mastering your tracks anymore anyways lol
@1554nd5 ай бұрын
@@SanMario95But wheres the fun and meaning in letting other people master ur tracks
@YuriesMix5 ай бұрын
yes you can !
@naelbeno62495 ай бұрын
A good mix doesn‘t Need much Mastering, Maybe a bit width and clipping for Loudness!
@aark695 ай бұрын
Limiter in the master track. Done ✔️
@JohnnyPbitch5 ай бұрын
ew
@highsoundsprod5 ай бұрын
👌🏼👌🏼
@marsospeaks5 ай бұрын
Facts mix into a limiter or soft clipper and then bounce the drum stems, vocal stems, and whatever other stems as a wav so that you still have some control in your master session!
@maximusfrank28355 ай бұрын
In Deadmau masterclass he says mastering is cutting out 30hz, and putting a limiter on it. Haha I meannnn
@epicterry67065 ай бұрын
He does more than that but doesn't explain bc it comes so easy to him
@DalesBadBug5 ай бұрын
I always mix first, then export is as a .wav file, then Mastering.
@etcot82205 ай бұрын
Very good advices, I don’t think you need too long of a break, just do another one forget about the previous one, listen to other music, listen to what’s new, what you like..
@SoulAzzahidi4 ай бұрын
Of course you can. What if you need to adjust something in the mix while you’re mastering.
@heddshot873 ай бұрын
Mastering is a science of 🇵🇱 Polishing
@highsoundsprod5 ай бұрын
Hmm... I dont know.. But I undurstand Your point
@marcioegomes5 ай бұрын
Nice tip man. It seems that humanity has forgotten this
@deadislander6 ай бұрын
I mix into a limiter, compressor, multiband compressor and saturator. then I just add one final limiter once Im done mixing to push the loudness. mix revisions are all done with the master chain on. weird workflow but works like crazy
@recordingriot34506 ай бұрын
Yeah this is known as top down mixing, works I agree. But it feels limited compared to just mixing for me and then mastering later
@kucklowmusic91845 ай бұрын
Me who does both together as I produce along the way like an idiot
@AdMBandLeader5 ай бұрын
You're not an idiot. Many people mix and master in the same session, myself included. it has to be approached musically, not too scientifically. At the end of the day, all that matters is how good, healthy and clean your track sounds with all musical elements across the frequency spectrum. Never over think while making music.
@kucklowmusic91845 ай бұрын
@@AdMBandLeader thanks man , thats a really good advice 🔥🔥
@AdMBandLeader5 ай бұрын
@@kucklowmusic9184 Always welcome, brother.
@frankcoronabeats5 ай бұрын
Glue Compressor and a Clipper 😂 Trust me Guys ive sold tracks with only those two on the Master 💯
@themoseseze3 ай бұрын
LOL, so when your client has 3 reviews after mastering???
@maniaceddy55155 ай бұрын
Why shouldn't i master in my mix? I have debated with myself about this a lot before. I tried it, stopped now am back at doing it. I feel if your CPU can handle it, it's "sorta" easier to master in the mix cause then you get fix stuff as you finish your track. But mostly, i make sure i am confident that i have a super clean mix before starting to put plugins on the master etc.
@Shkodo5 ай бұрын
U can do whatever you want i will have to check how u got the project running without latency with all those synths and vsti on busses and master channels after u stoppednthenproduction phase. If it doesnt need much ok, but usually the production stage-gainstaging mixong stage- mastering stem mastering stage takes up a lot of cpu for different plugins and tools. U should seperate it at least so u domt mix or master a unprinted laggy track
@aspirativemusicproduction21355 ай бұрын
I think mixing is most of the work. If the mix is wacky the mastering will be very limited in what it can do without making things weird. Yesterday I was listening to the radio after a long time not listening to the radio. It sounded bad to me. But compeditive...
@chopshop5235 ай бұрын
It’s not that serious and yes you can mix and master. These people be putting out false information like they know it all. If anyone knows a thing or two about mixing and mastering they will find that you don’t always get it right the first time and have to go back and make several adjustments. Secondly music is subjective. So what sounds good to you might not sound good to someone else. Smfh!!
@epicterry67065 ай бұрын
Many studio people do both
@anothershitday5 ай бұрын
but there is a fact mixing into Limiter. Or even producing into limiter because at least you will guess what the finished product will sound like
@djcook5 ай бұрын
what mic is that
@Dremth5 ай бұрын
If mastering was a science, we wouldn't have remasters.
@kriss12loverap5 ай бұрын
Lol it is a science, who said it has to be a fixed way. Like our seasons change, but strawberries don’t really grow in wintertime in Norway. But we can grow strawberries in summers. The reason people remaster songs is because of new standards.
@schqrr5 ай бұрын
@@kriss12loverapagree
@schqrr5 ай бұрын
It is lol
@francobuzzetti94246 ай бұрын
what if you copy your master chain to the master on the mix? isn't it the same?
@alessandropetacca5 ай бұрын
Yep
@MichaelJohn-xl9zn4 ай бұрын
I like daws but it's really bad for editing best mastering inside a proper audio editing software.
@ryujinayato16235 ай бұрын
in none the wiser words of Warren Huart: "Make sure everything is loud *enough* by the time it hits the master bus, that way you don't have to limit and clip the shit out of it; we don't need another Death Magnetic situation"
@itzBlaqxhine5 ай бұрын
I have done both before 😂😂 afrobeats is crazy 😂😂
@Durkhead5 ай бұрын
I like to master the unfinished mix before i start mixing the finished master 🙃
@aviozstudio4 ай бұрын
I already tried it , and i am tired from it . I prefer mix and master in same session.
@ThiCityProductions6 ай бұрын
Hmm .. I would have thought it was the opposite like color correction then color grade. Wouldn’t you want to make the audio sound right to begin with then add effects etc?
@npcdisease5 ай бұрын
Theres no rules
@deantiquisetnovis5 ай бұрын
Mastering no, but mixing under mastering conditions yes! Put that Limiter on the output chain, and make sure the output level Is -14 LUFS. When doing the mixing under these conditions then you are less likely to get unpleasant surprises after the real mastering has been done. And before sending the track to mastering, take the Limiter out and send the track with -24LUFS to the mastering engineer.
@nobodyspecialmusic4 ай бұрын
No, just no lol your average competitive master is hitting between -6 and -9 lufs. There is no reason to send a mastering engineer a song at a level where they've gotta push it up more than a few db from the research I've gathered and most of that has come from Grammy winning mix and mastering engineers
@53fps555 ай бұрын
Cool 😮😮 What software do you use?
@w4dZ0o5 ай бұрын
The competitive comment is where we go wrong. It's why, like cars all look the same. Music all sounds the same. Everyone chasing someone else's tone.
@nobodyspecialmusic4 ай бұрын
Not about the tone but loudness. No one wants a noticeable volume difference between an industry master and their own
@user-xj8yl2dh4p5 ай бұрын
Most producers nowadays are already trying to master before the mix is finished . One guy i know has a weiss mastering maximizer as default on his channels 😂
@chefdusse4 ай бұрын
someone’s never heard of stem mastering.most engineers these days mix into a mix bus chain… is that mastering?
@ndemy-lambolendemy25025 ай бұрын
Man 👍🏿🫡
@RyanGoslingIndia4 ай бұрын
i do
@big-smoke-rc5 ай бұрын
Competitive? 😂 why should music sound competitive?
@Zackyyyyyu5 ай бұрын
Competitive just means to the same standard as popular music
@dussonthephanter66985 ай бұрын
Reason why you need to export and not master inside mixing session?😂
@JanEkbom5 ай бұрын
What I've understood is that when you master you are consistent. Especially if you have several tracks that you want to master in a certain style. And if you just have one song that you master within in the mix, you might be tempted to adjust something on the mix level and you might ruin something you already accomplished. Mastering is "just" polishing.
@npcdisease5 ай бұрын
Elistist
@INTERNETMOWGLI5 ай бұрын
Try and stop me
@mvxworthy54245 ай бұрын
The music in the background 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@northkaskazini7215 ай бұрын
Ask Mike Dean.
@epicterry67065 ай бұрын
Mike dean isn't even great at mastering that's how hard it is
@antxoncarbonero4 ай бұрын
Sadly, mastering nowadays is making the song as loud as possible.
@JGramWilliamChicago4 ай бұрын
This is not true, got a lot of my songs mix and master at the same time
@apostleofozu60055 ай бұрын
Mastering isn't a science.
@nirvanacobain0015 ай бұрын
Only a master engineer can do mastering tho. All you do on your track, including slaaping a waves limiter on the master is still considered mixing. Yep. Mastering requires a specific room with specific gear that none of yall have access to. Doing your own thing isnt bad per se, but its not called mastering.
@nobodyspecialmusic4 ай бұрын
You're so wrong on that one. That's like saying you're not recording because you're not in an isolated booth with a U87, or you're not playing basketball unless you're in the NBA. You don't have to specialize or have everything at a professional level to do things. This is gatekeeper talk and it's hurting the community more than helping
@nobodyspecialmusic4 ай бұрын
Mastering is a process. A Mastering engineer is a person, and gear/acoustics are no more than that. If you do the process of mastering, it's mastering lol
@this_is_jmdub5 ай бұрын
Trash
@carlosmohia75695 ай бұрын
Not going to say you can or can’t, but everyone has their own techniques and there is no rule to making music, some people might achieve it ..others won’t
@tasenova27173 ай бұрын
I say you make groundrules for yourself. if it's an album, then be organized. get the template organized in the way you work fast, lay the foundation. turn up the daw master volume and get the headroom you need. if you know how to get those peaks down, and keep percieved dynamics, then you will barely have to master. just figure out your targets. aim and fire.