Mizuno JPX921 Hot Metal Irons VS JPX921 Hot Metal Pro Irons

[@stevefroggett6924]

The King of Compare. Just what I was after this, Mike. Great vid. Cheers

[@jasonlewis995]

great review Mike! I just got a set of these. i played Ping Ie1 and while i love them, they don't offer the same level of forgiveness i need. Youre spot on with the look- i want help but not a shovel on the end , hence this review helped me look at and get fit for these irons!

[@guyhall6592]

Thank you, Michael. I'm leaning towards the Hogan PTx Pro irons, but you have once again got me thinking.

[@mizunogolf1906]

As much as anything - we're happy with those landing angles. Nice video. Thanks.

[@vincelaleau9308]

How can I order these clubs online? I'm not seeing the option to purchase on your website.

[@myopenmind527]

Vince Laleau better to get fitted. Buying off the shelf is not ideal. Check out the mizuno website for the fitter nearest to where you live.

[@lildvl10]

Will a 40-45° descent angle stop in the green?

[@davidtasker6663]

Hi, I ordered a full set 4-LW hot metal two weeks ago on a 30 day lead time but have since been told it could take until mid January 2021 until I get them at the earliest making it a total 3 month wait. Is there any chance this lead time could come in and I could get my hands on my set sooner? lol I’m so wanting them now

[@myopenmind527]

@@lildvl10 45 degrees is what you should be looking for. That should be easily achievable with the JPX range since Mizuno will not strengthen a club if they can’t get you to hold the green. I suggest you got hit a few with trackman or Foresight in your local fitting centre and confirm this yourself. 👍

[@wnfakind9197]

Bought the 921 HMP , look and feel great , minimal offset which is to my liking , forgiving but not overly forgiving where you’re getting rewarded for a bad shot . Great irons .

[@jasonkennedy5477]

Great video always great information. I would like to see the comparison between the jpx 921 forged vs. MP 20 mmc

[@joewilson1295]

Great video Michael. Took the plunge today and ordered 921 HM 5 and 6 irons and HMP in 7 iron to Gap Wedge. Club pro gave me a great price. However with everything going on it could be late Feb 2021 at least before they are here. Keep the great videos coming please.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Nice work!

[@evoviiiyou831]

Hot Metal Pro and the Forged are the hero’s along with the SEL for lefties. Love this new line and the reviews Mike. Nice work

[@Munards]

What’s more forgiving the pro or forged

[@torbenhansen3470]

what a lovely smooth swing..very nice...love the irons too...

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@markfitzpatrick360]

Great unbiased review. Nice brand new Mizuno shoes btw 😁😉

[@qqt414]

Is there much difference in forgiveness between the hot metal vs hot metal pro?

[@JM-bt1uy]

They are both beautiful !!!

[@GDJ1957]

Is the hot metal smaller than the g425?

[@edgamblejr]

Mizuno shoes for a Mizuno review?

[@DouglasB65]

What would say is the major difference between the HM Pro and the forged? The softer feel of the forged ? Appears to be about the same in size. Thx

[@ChefMane]

Is the only difference the look of the club? Is there a ton of difference in the forgiveness?

[@mikes659]

Would love to see the comparison between the hot metal and the Callaway B21 irons. Thanks

[@billsinclair313]

The JPX921 Hot Metal Pro is awesome with the less offset and smaller size. I have a set on order and am patiently waiting. The consistency on distance and dispersion was very good.

[@714Octor]

They’re great I can’t wait to complete my set, mine have the black shaft and they’re awesome Hot Metal Pros in my bag are my most used clubs. Mizuno Gt200x driver is great as well I love it

[@georgedemos2775]

@@714Octor has

[@richardking8879]

Hi, what's the difference please between the HOT METAL and the HOT METAL PROS. I play off 16 handicap and want ro purchase this set of 921s. Just don't know whether to get the HOT metals or the pro. Is it just the pros are slightly less forgiving and more slimmer profile. Any advice would be appreciated thank you

[@billsinclair313]

@@richardking8879 I think the Hot Metal Pro is just as forgiving as the Hot Metal. The Pro is shorter on the blade length and has less offset. Here is a link, mizunogolf.com/us/golf-clubs/jpx921-series/jpx921-hot-metal/, scroll down the page and you can see the offset differences. Otherwise the are pretty much the same. My preference is less offset, it pleases my eye better. I am older and needed help with distance, the hot metal’s do not disappoint and have a great feel.

[@billsinclair313]

Oh, I would go for a fitting and hit both.

[@wolfgangwolf5816]

Thx, great insights!

[@dalewedan8749]

If I was going to consider a combo set, would a 4/5 iron work in the standard and 6-PW work? I know the cut over is usually starting with the 8... just curious... thanks for the good review.

[@mrchineseable]

any chance for a comparison vs. 919 hot metals?

[@6daymember]

That would be ideal

[@JDSFLA]

See that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5m1fX-JZ9yNprM

[@leeyarbrough9636]

Does these jpx 921 lie angle sit flatter compared to the g425 ping was going to get me a set , I use black dot standard in ping was wondering if I need to go up a degree on the toe. Thanks.

[@leospaceman2976]

Miz typically flatter than others including Ping by as much as 1°

[@CKGolfer]

The Pros look a little bloated on the back vs the 919's. Was that just the camera?

[@Bleda2002]

Ive compared the 2 in person, the 921 pro is just a bit smaller than the 919

[@shanemaurer2775]

What shafts were used on these?

[@rdzsantiago]

Which would you recommend for a 18 handicap? HM or HMPro

[@anthonythomas9276]

Waiting on the Srixon ZX7 and ZX5 reviews! :)

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Coming soon!

[@davidredegren7001]

Michael Newton Golf Lovely!

[@ryanu3708]

I'm not hearing a buttery feel to these. Anyone game them?

[@revilo9725]

I did for a month or so before chopping In for the forged. Much better feel and control 👍🏼

[@u10722u]

Can I ask if they do a gap wedge in the HM Pro?

[@lildvl10]

Yes, they do. I just ordered the 921 hmp with a gap wedge (49° loft)

[@Zuffa13]

I’m coming around to the idea of adding the 4 HMP into a combo with the forged 921 7-5 and maybe the PW-8 in the MP-20 MCC. Is that crazy?

[@wallstreetoneil]

I play the 919 Hot Metal Pros, bent mostly 2 degrees weaker (PW,9,8,7,6,5) @ (47,42,37,32,28,24), with the DG 120 S300 shaft - and I'm a 5 handicap. After playing with them a lot, it began to bug me that I could see the back of the Hot Metal Pro 5 iron - grew up playing cavity blades so it just bugged me. I ended up ordering an MP-20 HMB 5 iron (can't see the back) and I actually like the thinner sole for ground interaction. I have demoed the MMCs and LOVED them. From a gapping perspective, my last iron is the 24-degree HMB 5 iron - I then goto 21&16 degree hybrids - 21 is the traditional loft of a bladed 3 iron and 24 is a 4 iron (which my HMB 5 iron is 24 degrees). After watching all the KZbin videos on the 921 Forged - that seems to be the club that I would be looking at this time as a comparison to the MMCs which I loved (these came out after I bought my 919 Hot Metal Pros). I think I would be tempted to form a set of MMCs (PW-6 iron), where 6 iron is 28 degrees (exactly how I play my current set), and then look at the 24 degree Forged 5 iron or the 22 degree Hot Metal Pro 5 iron (I would bend to 23) or the 25 degree HMB #5 (which I would bend to 24 - like I have done with my current set).

[@Zuffa13]

Paul O'Neil Interesting thank you. Perhaps I’m over complicating it and a combo with the forged and HMP is enough. I’m used to using blades when I was younger and game AP2s but age is catching up with me.... As a side note have you ever considered a 7 wood at 21 or 22 degree? I’m also considering dropping the 3 & 5 wood and going for a 4 & 7 combo. Ive never really figured out how to consistently hit hybrids and I like the higher spin of the 7 wood.....and 3 wood off the deck is, well, a 3 wood off the deck. Might also test the utilities on the market as an extra club to swap for 7 wood for those days where I need a lower ball flight

[@wallstreetoneil]

​@@Zuffa13 Given you are playing AP2s, I played the very original year of them before buying the 919 Hot Metal Pros, and you are looking for more help, and likely running out of clubhead speed at the top of the bag to hit an iron off the deck high enough that has a traditional 24 degree 4 iron blade loft (now modern 5 iron non bade loft), I would either stop your iron set at 5 iron or even at a 27 degree 6 iron (traditional 5 iron) - and then go into a 24/25 hybrid and then the 21/22 degree 7 wood. The #6 Big Bertha Hybrid with an F2 or F3 (Senior or Regular flex) Recoil Graphite Shaft would be a great choice for the Hybrid - I bought my partner one and it is easy to hit high and is adjustable down 1 or up 2 degrees in loft for gapping - she then jumps to the same Big Bertha Hybrid #4 which is 21 degrees, also adjustable, and then straight to driver. I have done tremendous testing of clubs at the top end of my bag to get the right heights and controllable shot shapes (that was key for me) and I did experiment with different hybrids and 5-woods all in the 23-16 degree loft ranges to fit my bag. Because they have further strengthened the lofts of the Forged and the Hot Metal, and they have vastly improved the Forged in terms of forgiveness/launch and distance, I would order the Forged PW-6 or PW-5, and I would order them 1 degree weaker in the PW-6 leaving the 5 at 24 degrees. The Forged specs are (PW,9,8,7,6,5) @ (45,40,35,31,27,24) - this would give you (46,41,36,32,28,24) when weakened 1 degree. I hit my current #6 28-degree Hot Metal Pro 185 yards carry and my 24-degree #5 HMB with a lighter graphite shaft 197 carry. I then go to a Taylormade Gapr #4 22-degree that has been opened to 21 degrees, re-shafted with a heavier 110-gram Graphite i110 SteelFiber Shaft shortened 3/4" to 39.25". I love the GapR High as it is small and compact. It produces a mid/high flight and I can draw and fade it - but it has a stock 7-yard draw built into it which I prefer for that club. For me, that next club was the challenge to find one I could actually game - not just range hit - and also fit my bag from wanting to be able to hit certain shots - both a controllable and repeatable shot shape into the green but also off the tee on tight Par 4s. I have a Callaway Sub Zero 18 degree 5wood, which is amazing at the range, but I find that I don't trust it into greens because it can Draw too much. I ended up using a Callaway Epic (1st generation) #2 Hybrid 18 degree with a 90-gram F4 flex Recoil shaft, played open to 17 degrees (and shortened 1/2"), and this would produce a leaking and repeatable fade which was perfect - teed up I could concentrate and produce a small draw - but it was great to have that fade built it. I just replaced that club, I still love it but the sweet spot is not large, with a Mizuno 2020 CLK #2 16-degree Hybrid. I like this hybrid a lot because it is very good low in the face off tight lies. I think I maybe should have ordered the #3 19-degree and opened it to 18 as that would have made the club straight/fade biassed - as it is, the sock shot seems to be a 5-7 yard draw - if I play it opened to 15 degrees it is dead neutral - but I lose the height. I ordered the club with the 94 gram Tensei White in TX flex, and 1/2" short, and it is an amazing combo the flight is more predictable and repeatable than the 18-degree Callaway #5wood - and it acts like a very easy to hit driving iron that I can use off tees - just like my Epic #2 hybrid - just wish it 'naturally' faded. In summary, order to Forged PW-6, maybe 5, get that 7 wood - and maybe also look at some of the larger, easier to launch hybrids for that 24/25 degree club (the old traditional #4 blade)

[@Zuffa13]

Paul O'Neil Cheers for the extensive reply. It’s funny because when I was younger I played off 3 but never had any custom fitting or any fancy clubs. The blades were a hand me down from the club pro who used them himself. Slazengers actually! I had a decent Ping Answer and splashed out on a Big Bertha but otherwise nothing special. And here I am 20 odd years later looking at spending my yearly salary back then on a new custom set up now 😂 It’s clear though I need to spend some time getting the numbers right and testing testing and testing. The last hybrids I hit were 10 years ago so maybe these days its a different story also. Thanks again and plenty of food for thought here

[@wallstreetoneil]

@@Zuffa13 I live down the street in Toronto from the TXG guys and have had my clubs gapped by them. Here is a video they did with an older customer who was looking for a 7 wood. Might give you some ideas. If you don't know their KZbin Channel - they are considered by many as one of the best club fitters you can go to. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIKQiZRsqbajetU&ab_channel=TXGTourExperienceGolf. They have other videos on Hybrid you should look at.

[@matthew-t1980]

Is there a big drop off in forgiveness between the 921 forged and the 921 hot metal pro?

[@dj_all_day_66]

I’ve hit both. The answer is yes.

[@2010LeeG]

Can't find anywhere for a fitting at the moment. Any advice anyone?

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

where are you based?

[@2010LeeG]

@@MichaelNewtonGolf Thanks for the reply. I am in the North West (Bolton), I have looked at the Mizuno page for local fitting centres but no luck so far.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Not sure off the top of my head who's local to you that fits Mizuno. Obviously we have the full fitting kit here at Penrith Golf Hub which would be approx 1 hour 15 drive for you. I can fit you. Drop me an email if that's of [e-mail]

[@2010LeeG]

@@MichaelNewtonGolf Thanks Michael, I have just sent you an email.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Thanks, I'll reply later today if that's ok, just going out with the kids now. Mike

[@clayearth8287]

Michael you mention 1/2" longer than clubs standard length. Are you 6'1...more or less?? I had to add only 1/4 to the Speedzones and I'm 6'1. Of course Cobra is leading the way in delofting irons and club length being pretty much 1/4 to 1/2 longer. I was confused for awhile because many makers have diff versions of so called "standard length"

[@crispyduck1706]

pretty sure Michael is 6’5

[@clayearth8287]

@@crispyduck1706 at 6'5 he is playing with short irons than at half inch longer. Wht change shafts also. Use the standard factory shaft as most do at purchase for every brand

[@GDJ1957]

Michael, do you think the pro is a better club than the G425s? Does it have a softer feel?

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Yes I would say they have a softer over the G425

[@GDJ1957]

@@MichaelNewtonGolf Thanks

[@stephenmowforth3055]

Great review as always i have purchased the HMP IRONS and had them a few weeks now i ordered them in the ns pro neo 950gh in stiff and they arrived in the ns pro 950gh stiff shafts. I wanted a higher launching shaft as I tend to hit the ball low. When I contacted the retailer I was told there is no difference between the shafts in your honest opinion is this true

[@greggiffin]

Neo has a slightly higher launch… stiffer tip. Someone is covering up.

[@trumpnation623]

What is the point of all of these combo sets?? Really doesn’t make any sense. Can someone explain this?? Thanks

[@HamuelTheGrey]

People want forgiveness for low irons and deliberate feel for high irons…. Hot metal pro are more forgiving than the mizuno 921 tour that has more feel .

[@CKGolfer]

ARE THOSE MIZUNO GOLF SHOES? CAN I GET IN AMERICA????

[@mizunogolf1906]

Yes - but not available through Mizuno US just yet.

[@jpbernie72]

Great review, why does everyone over the pond have such a difficult time saying chromoly? “Crowe” like the bird, “Molly” like the girl.

[@DANIAC262]

Al you mini um

[@Mj-CWO4]

What is it with the chunky comments, you guys kill me with this comment

[@garthfairfield8043]

Hitting your 5 iron well mate

[@eddiegunz3551]

It's a 7 iron mate..

[@garthfairfield8043]

@@eddiegunz3551 7 iron has 34 or 35 degrees of loft otherwise you just bullshitting yourself

[@gregstepney5629]

@@garthfairfield8043 i'd say height and descent angle are more important than loft. If it goes as high and lands as steeply as a 7 iron, then i'm not worried about loft. Stopping power is the measure of which iron it is. Loft is an arbitrary number.

[@philipchan1856]

Defo not as soft as forged iron.

[@vincentfickweiler4590]

Why do you say sod off every 10 seconds, sort of?? I’m offended. 😜

[@termides]

You guys with the English accent drive me crazy because you talk like a machine gun and you like to talk a lot but you can never get around to comparing two different golf clubs. You go on and on about the looks about the sound about everything until it gets to the point I forget which club you're trying out.

[@Gatorgolfusa]

Bought the pro version and with your review I thought I would of preferred the Regular but so similar it wouldn't of mattered! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇲👍