MK6 Golf GTI Multifunction Steering wheel retrofit in a MK5 Golf GTI

This was a MK6 Golf GTI Multifunction Steering wheel retrofit in a MK5 Golf GTI for the purpose of being able to interact with all the menu options in the previously retrofitted MK6 Golf R instrument cluster and radio.
All buttons do work. I was demonstrating the functionality but didn't realize that copyrighted content was being played in the background through the radio, so that had to be censored near the end of the video.

[@DoomerDan]

This video was more informational than any of the forums I’ve read so far! Can’t wait to swap my mk6 GTI wheel onto my MK5 Rabbit

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The 2010 Jetta bezel keeps it looking OEM

[@Cboiyee]

That’s awesome that you did the cluster from a mk6 as well! I’m currently thinking about getting the mk6 wheel on my mk5 gti because I just got the same touch screen radio and I also have a polar fis data monitor so the issue I have is my arrow keys control my music and my data monitor so the new wheel will have more buttons to hopefully fix that!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, what you are looking at is a MK6 Golf-R instrument cluster, but it has the 2010 MK5 Jetta bezel so it fits in the MK5 Golf dashboard for an OEM look (and can actually be mounted to the dashboard). Yes, The MK6 wheel with more buttons will operate the Polar FIS menu items (I use the Kufatec model). You meed to ensure you have the correct Revision "C" clockspring, and also steering wheel control module that supports both MK5 (DDP) and MK6 (BAP) protocols along with the matching steering angle sensor configuration. You will also need a VAG tool like OBDeleven ,VCDS, VCP, ODIS, Autel MS908 Pro (or higher) to do the coding the way you want to make all the buttons work. All 12 buttons on my wheel works. You get the real benefit from the steering wheel swap when you also do the cluster as well (althougth that to immobilizer work involved as well.

[@frgamingx9602]

Hey! I have a question I hope you can help me. I have a 2005 DSG golf GTI, I am looking to retrofit a mk5 paddleshift wheel but O camt fond any info what module I will need! Any help would be appreciated 😎

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Please post the part number for the existing module you have currently, and I'll tell you which one you need to get. You also need a revision C clock spring as well. You get the module part number electronically using g OBDELEVEN, VCDS or ODIS if you dont want to take the column apart.

[@dennyandrea]

wonderful work I would like to ask you for information: I have mounted a discover media on my golf 5 R32 DSG but no information is coming to the multifunction display There is a solution? Thx

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The problem is that the head unit would the newer BAP ( or even newer) protocol. Your MK5 stock instrument cluster would use the older DDP protocol. You would need to retrofit a matching variant of the instrument to be able to see the display.

[@dennyandrea]

@@MatthewTaylor3 ok thanks. before installing the discover media i changed the gateway from 1k to 5k. what else do i need to install ? thank you

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@dennyandrea you would need to also install an instrument cluster. The issue is that it will NOT fit your dashboard (physically).

[@dennyandrea]

@@MatthewTaylor3 sorry why do you say it doesn't fit physically? do you also have a Mk6 cluster on mk5?🤔

[@lewisrene7589]

Brilliant.. Iv fitted all the components except from the cambus.. haven’t got round to the coding however the airbag doesn’t work though? any ideas what you think this may be?

[@lewisrene7589]

Matthew Taylor thanks for the speedy reply..do u think it could be that I used my original non MFSW airbag & cable with the new MFSW?... & Should I have used the same cables and airbag I got with the new wheel?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@lewisrene7589 Personally, I feel you should be using the SAME cables that cables that came with the airbag and new wheel as they would come with the "additional" wires and pins that are needed. A non-MFSW wheel, clock-spring and steering-wheel control module has LESS pins / wires as there are less components (such as buttons). You can however, use a Revision-C clock spring with both (the non-MFSW just won't use all pins, and that's fine). If after all that, the airbag still gives a unclearable fault-code, check the grounding again, and ensure that none of the pins in the steering wheel control module are broken, missing, or bent (so as not to make proper contact).

[@lewisrene7589]

eM ok I will take the wheel off and refit with original harness and airbag from scirocco and try that. Will get back to you with an update ASAP. And could you check the video I have posted on my page upload please.

[@lewisrene7589]

eM please take a look @ this and tell me what you think kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXK7aoCpoMxoqdk

[@RepairableUK]

Hello, fantastic video... I had a question. I have a 2005 MK5 GOLF and want to change the steering wheel to an MK6 (exactly like yours). Does the MK6 steering wheel have to have an MK6 control module or can I get an MK5? Thanks.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You have to get a MK5 (not MK6) module that does BOTH the MK5 DDP and MK6 BAP protocol. The specific one that you get is dependent on the specific module that you have in your car currently. This matters if your car is manual or DSG and has the steering angle sensor in the steering rack or steering column. If you give me your part number, I can look it up on the Ross-Tech wiki page and tell you the part number to get.

[@RepairableUK]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Hey, I haven't attempted to remove the module yet as it is my first time doing it. Is there any other way to find out?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@RepairableUK yes you can use VCDS, OBDeleven, VCP, or ODIS to go to module #16, there will see the part number and software version.

[@VwDaD1988]

Hey does your gti have a steering angle sensor behind the clock spring? I’m doing this retrofit on my mkv Jetta with a wheel from a mkv tdi and I already have the mfd+ with a high line module but I’m also upgrading to the module with CD like you did. Will I be able to perform the steering assist and have no angle sensor codes if the car I pulled this from didn’t have a steering angle sensor?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

My highline GTI originally came with the steering angle sensor in the steering rack, but the rack died as was replaced with another model that did not have one. With the CD variant retrofit years later I selected "0" in adaptation channel "9" for module "44" to use only the steering angle sensor in the steering column itself.

[@VwDaD1988]

@@MatthewTaylor3 awesome. Will I be able to use this in VCDS as well by switching to 0 in the adaptation Chanel 9? I just want to make sure that I will not have a red or yellow steering wheel light on the dash and what not. I ask because my steering angle sensor is behind the clock spring and plugs into the control module. I currently have the control module that ends in BK which was a high line model with software 0100/0101 LIN 1.3. You think I can retrofit to my existing high line BK module or will I need to use the CD one indefinitely? I see the CD also uses LIN 1.3 but software 0111. So I just want to know if VCDS will be able to code my retrofit properly. Thanks for the replies!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@VwDaD1988 Yes, in the case of VCDS, you would "untick" a checkbox. OBDeleven shows it as zeroes (unticked) and ones (ticked). You can also do this in ODIS as well.. According to the Ross-Tech wiki: Your hardware seems supported with the compatible hardware, so you shouldn't need to buy any thing else. Any questions, feel free to ask. wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions Since you have VCDS like me, the process is easy for you. Ask any questions. The yellow light will remain until you do the test drive after coding.

[@VwDaD1988]

@@MatthewTaylor3 hey man I have one other question. The clock spring or slip wheel. Will The one I grabbed with the new steering wheel be compatible with the high line control module as well? Should be right?

[@VwDaD1988]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I only ask about the clock spring because I know the newer models have a different airbag connector than the version on mine. So I need to switch them out so the new airbag can connect to It. But with VCDS and high line module I should be good right?

[@marcelao3649]

Goodnight friend. My name is MARCELO, I'm from BRAZIL. I have a jetta 2.5L 2009 mk5 and bought the multifunction steering wheel of the golf mk7 like this, however, with gearshift tabs, I also bought the 1k0 953 549 ch module, but I'm not getting it to work, looking on the internet I found your video , and I really wish you could help me with how to set it up. I thank you for your attention. Sincerely, Marcelo.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Hello, You have the correct 1K0-953-549-CH module. The issue is that you bought a MK7 steering wheel that uses a completely new protocol. The MK5 Golf/Jetta uses DDP The MK6 Golf/Jetta uses BAP The 1K0-953-549-CH supports both of these protocols The MK7 wheel uses a different protocol. You will have to mix & match several MK7 modules to make this work. It will seem like it isn't worth the hassle, or it is easier to sell / exchange your MK7 steering wheel for a MK6 one. Give me a day to read through some forums. I recall seeing a MK5 forum (based in the United Kingdom ) in which someone retrofitted a MK7 steering wheel in a MK5 chassis, but no all the buttons worked (including the horn).

[@marcelao3649]

Good morning, thank you very much for your attention and help. Yes, I look forward to your return. And I already thank you very much. Sincerely, Marcelo.

[@cristiantedd]

Any news about retrofiting a mk7 steering wheel on a mk5/6 my09? I am looking desperatly for a video step by step.

[@marcelao3649]

@@cristiantedd Good afternoon. Next, I started putting it to work, but with the simplest steering wheel with gear shifting

[@coaster0537]

Hey just wondering do I need to get all the other stuff you get for the steering wheel to work or can I just use all the old parts on my mk5 golf I don’t really care if the buttons on the steering wheel work maybe only the paddle shifts but I’m just wondering if I can just swap the steering wheel and that’s it .

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You need what I listed or else the HORN and paddle shifter won't work. The MK5 uses the older DDP protocol. The MK6 uses the newer BAP protocol. The correct steering wheel control module speaks both protocols. You need to have a working horn for safety and road legal reasons. Importantly, you NEED to KNOW that the airbag WILL also deploy in the event of an accident.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You theoretically could buy a lowline MK6 steering wheel without the MFSW buttons, and a matching Steering wheel control module that has the correct steering angle sensor configuration, but is it really worth it to risk to cheap with a retrofit like this (unless you already had a lowline trim level vehicle already)?

[@coaster0537]

@@MatthewTaylor3 okay thank you so I will just need to buy the steering module with the wheel it’s for a mk5 rabbit I just have one more question after doing this will I need to do anything else after it’s done like can I just plug everything in and it will all work ? Or no.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@coaster0537 You will need to get the Revision-C clockspring if you don't have that already. You will finally need an appropriate VAG tool like OBDeleven, VCDS, ODIS, VCP, Autel MS908 Pro (or equivalent in that category) to code the new module (at address #16) to be similar to your old one and match the steering angle sensor configuration in the steering rack (J500/module 44).

[@gjorgjijovanoski4485]

HELP :) I put new Steering control module 1K0-953-549-AQ (old one 1K0-953-549-AF). I check the slip ring it type 2 1K0-959-653-C. I code the Steering control module in my case 0003022. I run the car. Steering wheel buttons work perfect but ESP , and power steering dot want to turn off. I try to calibrate angle sensor with wheel rotating full left, right and beck to center but nothing happens. I get VCDS error I clear them but they are coming back.. 1) 02546 - Steering Limit Stop 005 - No or incorrect Basic Setting/ Adaptation 2) 00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 005 - No or incorrect Basic Setting/ Adaptation 3) Abauth ESP I dont scan it I dont know the error

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'll respond to you shortly as I'm just seeing this message

[@LR52VUU]

Howdy, I would like to do the same. Please where do I start. I have a VW mk 5.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You need a coding tool like ODIS, OBDeleven, VCDS, AVDI, Autel, TopDon to change the options. You need the steering wheel and module to match your desired trim level of your vehicle.

[@DJ_KAYZ_SA]

Hi how do u disconnect the power steering lugs

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'm not sure which "lugs " you are referring to. Please describe it another way

[@Ueldalija]

What is The part number of The new revision clock spring?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

It's the one that ends with "C". I'll post it in a few minutes

[@MatthewTaylor3]

1K0 959 653 C

[@Ueldalija]

@@MatthewTaylor3 thank you very much, fantastic job youre doing with your channel!

[@dizelas8890]

Hello i have clock spring with c code,module with AG code and i put steering wheel from mk 6 but my comands dont work error no signal/comunication any sugestion ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

What version steering wheel control module did you have before the swap?

[@dizelas8890]

@@MatthewTaylor3 lowline model but i swap for highline

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@dizelas8890 Can you provide the part number just the same? I want to cross reference it with the Ross-Tech Wiki compatibility chart. If you have the lowline model (originally), you also need the "Revision-L" gateway.

[@dizelas8890]

@@MatthewTaylor3 now i have steering wheel with comands but from mk5 that suport,is it same mk6 and passat 7 steering wheel i mean is there diferent beetwen mk6&passat 7

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@dizelas8890 Passat 7 Steering wheel should be the same as the MK6 Golf/Jetta. Can you please state the original part number for the steering wheel control module in your MK5 so I can look it up in the compatibility chart?

[@dlier-a9473]

The parts under steering wheel u got it from mk6 gti?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Correct. I just ensured that I searched for a Highline variant.

[@xkyzik]

i currently have a tsi mk6 and want to get a steering wheel with buttons, will it just be plug and play or will i need to change a module or anything?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

If your steering wheel currently has NO buttons on it, then it means you have the LOWLINE steering wheel control module as well. You would need to buy the HIGHLINE steering wheel control module to make the replacement steering wheel work. You would select the appropriate one once you know if the your car has the steering angle sensor in the rack itself or the column. You would then need to recode the steering wheel control module in case there is somethng different about your car than the donor vehicle you get the steering wheel control module from.

[@evaldaskatilius5747]

Hello, nice setup! I have a question: what are the steps to retrofit the cluster?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I have an earlier video on that. This requires you to KNOW the PIN on both clusters. You will need to pair a new key (transponder) as your existing one will then become invalid.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Please look through my older videos to see the process. If you got a key with the replacement clock it is then easy. ... however you still need to copy the PIN, MAC, CS and Power Class from your existing ECU or cluster to the replacement. Do NOT delete any keys from the cluster, until you get the car started. I used a copy of AVDI to place both clusters in Service Mode and so the immobiliser swap and pairing of three new key

[@pm6911]

wassup buddy, I have the golf mk6 highline which has this steering wheel with the paddle shifters, but I noticed that the right side buttons + right shifter are not working ( they do not light red at all ) while the other side is working perfect (left steering buttons + left shifter), do you have any idea what could be the problem? I just don't know where the paddles are connected to, is it to the multifunction buttons or the module under the steering wheel?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Your clock spring would be the FIRST thing I'd replace, as they are known to fail.

[@pm6911]

@@MatthewTaylor3 do you know where I can get the exact clock spring number? Incase some other mk6 doesn't have the shift paddles

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@pm6911 I'll post a link to an online service manual that will give you the exact part for your VIN. If you asked for the one for a MK5, it would be the part number that ends with "C".

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@pm6911 partsouq.com/en/catalog/genuine/locate?c=VW1394 Apologies, I totally forgot to respond to you earlier. Please enter your VIN on this page, and you can find all the latest part numbers for your car.

[@pm6911]

@@MatthewTaylor3 thanks bud😚

[@LordAnubis]

Do mk6 parts fit on a regular mk5 ? Like the spedometar or steering wheel

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, in my videos, I've successfully swapped over both. For the steering wheel, you need to get the correct caliber steering wheel control module if you want the buttons on the steering wheel to work

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You also need the 2010 Jetta bezel to fit the MK6 cluster in the MK5 with an OEM finish, and be ready to do some immobilizer work, and buy a new transponder pill for your key blade.

[@shawnstaroscik5045]

where can i get the mk6 steering wheel?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I bought mine in nearly mint condition from eBay from an individual.

[@MegaPatricklee]

Where did you get climate controls ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The climatronic controls were from a MK6 GTI, and the bezel that surrounds it came from a 2010 Jetta. Only the 2010 Jetta has that bezel to fit the MK5 Golf dashboard and fit the climatronic controls (to give it the OEM look from factory).

[@marwanfarahat8003]

DO you have Instagram ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Spicy_FPV_Jamaica

[@jayv5641]

@Spicy_FPV_Jamaica You didn't have to do any coding? would you know what parts are needed for a MK5 Jetta to swap in the golf R wheel? I found this but not sure if this would be correct. PN: 5K0419091ARASZ ---------- Golf R MultiFunction Steering Wheel (Without Paddles) PN: 1K0953549CH ---------------- GTI/Golf R MultiFunction Steering Wheel Control Module (SCCM - Highline Version) PN: 5K0971584C ---------------- GTI/Golf R Airbag Harness

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Coding is NEEDED. The specific coding is dependednt on the steering wheel control module (#16) you have installed, and you select the appropriate one BASED on the steering rack (module #44) you have installed (based on whether or not it has the steering angle sensor built in). You also need to have the "Revision-C" clockspring if you don't have it already in a 2007+ vehicle. Your steering wheel part number doesn't matter, but it would be nice to have the paddles if you have the DSG. The part number you identified is fine. The airbag harness looks good too. As it relates to the SCCM, I'll post the Ross-Tech Wiki list for you to look at. You FIRST need to know what SCCM you have in the car now to advise you which compatible MK6 SCCM to buy.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions Read this FIRST before buying the wrong module. Note your existing module via visual or electronic means, then select the compatinble MK6 one that does both 1.3 and 2.0 protocol communication (1.3 MK5, 2.0 MK6), steering angle sensor location. The hack I used to make the chart easier to read is to copy and paste it into Excel, then applied a filter to get the Highline MK6 module that matched my MK5 one.

[@jayv5641]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Thanks for the quick reply. This sounds very confusing and a headache. That link is confusing.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@jayv5641 The FIRST thing you need to do is to identify the SCCM you have in your car now. You can use a VAG scan tool to idenify it, or physically tear your steering column apart. If you PM me your VIN, I can look it up in a part catalog, and tell you which one from the list to buy.

[@jayv5641]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Where can I PM you? I don't see that option on youtube anymore.