MK6 Golf R instrument cluster retrofitted in a MK5 GTI

I had recently retrofitted a MK6 Golf R instrument cluster into my MK5 Golf GTI. Acquiring the indiidual miscellaneous parts and tools took months as I reside in Jamaica, and the immobilizer tools and the wiring harness (adapter) came from a remote country such as China or Taiwan. I learnt quite a bit during the process as I got my hands dirty in the process and saved myself some money by not having to take it to "professionals" who would charge me more to do the same sort of things I did in the video.
The video is indeed unnecessarily long as ranted through the explanation process, but didn't feel like editing it out.

[@zimke1984]

Thanks for making the video, it was very interesting.

[@Righteouness]

Congrats. You’re a smart man. I’m beginning to gather the items to make this work in my MK5 Jetta.

[@slparallax2357]

hey man did you end up doing this, I own a mk6 jetta and I want to do this aswell

[@Righteouness]

@@slparallax2357 too complex unfortunately although not impossible. Find a VAG shop (mechanic)

[@kissmyaskew9844]

I second was @jesus saves said, you the man. You sent me the link to this from my question about the process on GolfMKV from about an hour ago. Appreciate it, and i subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@Hfz9ly]

Nice swap, big upgrade! I wanna change my needles/leds to get the same blue needles. Will something happen if I unplug the cluster, do the work and plug it back again? Do I need some coding/activation after replugging?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

No. There will be NO issue unplugging and replugging the same instrument cluster in your car. The time/clock and trip information will reset in the same manner as a dead battery.

[@carlosparedes2935]

Have you made the speedometer work? What about abs? Did you get rid of the abs light? The "ding ding ding" sound... where is it?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The speedometer worked without needing any coding as it gets the reading from the ABS (not the transmission). The ABS and steering wheel just needed a test drive to clear. Whenever you change your ECU or instrument cluster,y your ABS unit will factory reset itself as the vehicle's VIN is stored in it (but is lost when you change an immobilizer related component). I had my previous coding backed up in VCDS and OBDeleven, so I restored it manually, and then did a 5-minute test drive which cleared all errors. If you are referring to the alternate speed such as from miles to Kilometers, then I enabled a feature called "alternate speed display". which shows this digitally

[@carlosparedes2935]

Could you share the software and tools needed for doing the immobilizer stuff? -or the link where you ordered that. Thanks in advance from Mexico.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I used a cloned copy of AVDI by Abrites called SVDI / FVDI which does the same thing for placing both clusters into Service Mode and pairing keys. I bought it from AliExpress. I bought the "2018" variant, but the "2020" variant is what is current.

[@vilzani]

Hello, did you just change the front cover ( Plastic ) and installed the Cluster, or did you need to remove all the past and transfer them to the other cluster ? Because i have the same cluster for Jetta mk5 2010 but its in Mileages and i want to change in Kilometers, so i need to find a cluster with KM maybe from a Golf Mk6 or Passat b7 and just swap the front cover, but i don't know if it fits ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Once you have a MK5 Golf or Jetta, then you need to get one from a 2010 Jetta just for the front plastic cover and mounting points so it bolts up and looks factory. You discard the rest. You then place that on your MK6 instrument cluster. If you ONLY need to change the units of measure, you would just buy the thin plastic backing behind the needles that have the units you want. You would then use a EEPROM tool like VDOeditor to scale it appropriately so it works correctly. You are on the correct path.

[@anthonyg87]

Nice job! Did you change 0x13a0 - 0X1450 FF for the immo/safe data to not show from standaard cluster backup file? Want to do a swap in a caddy 2009 with 2012 type cluster. So should be same way i think. Dont have svci/fvdi but autel im608 that should be able to read immo data etc

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I did "FF" a range of addresses, but I can't tell you if it is the same range as you indicated. Some clusters are different, but the process is the same. Your Autel tool can and will do it. It will even automate the process for you sp you don't have to be too involved in the nerdy bits. I wished I had a IM608, as I'd be providing that service on a daily basis, as I see the use case for it. The unit would basically pay for itself. You are already familiar with the correct set of steps. Please make a BACKUP of both EEPROMs for peace of mind before having fun with the process.

[@anthonyg87]

@@MatthewTaylor3 yeah i can read immo data with autel im608 also pincode and cs code from old cluster and also for new one. Never done this retrofit. Normal use autel for key cloning and key learning and some basic diagnose. Want to have smok uhds also, read that that also can make full backup from eeprom. For what i have found that range of adress should disable the immo active message but never done it. So this wil hé the first try🤣 also have odis, vcds and vcp normal in the coding business active.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@anthonyg87 Can you please give me the part number for the instrument cluser you are swapping TO I also use a tool called VDO editor to adjust the analog guages, and the feayures like "cluster sweep" and the various backlight settings.

[@anthonyg87]

@@MatthewTaylor3 i also have a sort like tool/software to activate needle sweep. Needles to light up etc. So thats not needed. Its a cluster of a 2011 caddy 2K0 swap in a 2009 caddy but need to seen the car first. Its a customer of mine

[@carlosparedes2935]

Is it possible going from a 2010 Magnetti Marelli white led with an existing key, to a 2010 VDO 24c32 white led with no existing key? I've already done everything before the erasing keys procedure (I did not make new keys for the VDO, I just copied the original Magnetti KeyID numbers on the VDO but no avail... "Immobilizer Active") -I was expecting my existent keys will work, but no avail... Why is necessary making new keys? How do I match / sync the VDO Immobilizer to car ECU? -I'm doing all this stuff on a bench, and yes, I am able to read, write and verify EEPROM of VDO 24c32 with a programmer with no faults for entering into service mode. Hope you can help. I don't want to do Immo Off... Forgot to say that copying existing Magnetti KeyID numbers on the VDO, the VDO recognizes keys, but not the Immobilizer. VDO shows only "Immobilizer Active", not "No Key" message. Thanks in advance.

[@carlosparedes2935]

(Car won't start with the VDO, but it does with Magnetti)

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I feel honored that you of all folks asked this question. I'm not an expert on the matter. I just did this retrofit to modernize my MK5 Golf GTI's dashboard. I too, thought I could just copy & paste the KeyID from one cluster to another (but the car won't start and stay running for longer than the 1.8 seconds). What I then learnt after doing some reading online (from a Russian site that I forgot to bookmark) is that the immobiliser pill inside the physical key fob also gets unique information written from the instrument cluster itself as well. This then appears to create a mismatch even though you copied the original KeyID. I assume you already know that the transponder is one of those can only be written to once, then it is "locked". This is the reason why you have to get and pair a new key (board or transponder chip) for each instrument cluster you are trying to pair. If I arrive at a working solution otherwise, I'll respond and tag you here.

[@Kacerac1]

Where can i contact you, have few questions regarding this swap ?

[@ht2130]

Hey bro, you're video's are very helpfull, respect for that! I have A question: I'm going to swap my mk5 cluster to A scirocco 3 color cluster. I ordered the harness adaptor, and AVDI 2020 and ID48 pills. I only don't know what I have to do to get the immo working. Can you please make A vid about it? Or help me in writing? I will much apreciate it🙏

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I will make a video over the weekend when I have the time to do so. Getting the existing PIN for your current vehicle is easy with AVDI/FVCD. Getting the PIN from the the donor instrument cluster is an "All keys lost" situation where you have to first READ the EEPROM data and save it to your hard drive by disassembling the instrument cluster, and connecting directly to the 24C32 or 24C64 EEPROM. You would then "blank" the immobilizer address portion, and WRITE that file to the EEPROM. Temporarily connect to car with the harness and use AVDI to enter Service Mode via OBD. Using the stock file that you would have backed up, you can then see the PIN and all the juicy details in the donor cluster. From there, you can manually pair with your car, then add keys. Do NOT delete any stock keys until after you have completed the pairing of the new one. Edit: I don't know if you saw this site which also shows a similar method. www.auto-diagnosis.org/fvdi-2018-change-golf-6-dash/

[@SHtatkus]

I don’t know how it was for everyone else, but the hardest part for me was fitting cluster to the dashboard. The space is so tight, also the adapter takes some space, so cluster didn’t want to slide all the way in. Somehow it went in. Another surprise was my BG steering wheel control module works just fine with mk6 cluster and mk5 mfsw steering wheel. Didn’t need upgrade to CH or CD. To my knowledge BG is highline off course, but 1.3 LIN only. Am I missing something? Controling stereo is also not an issue, I got aftermarket radio and mfsw buttons do the job. Maybe that would be an issue if I upgrade to RCD330? Any input appreciated, thanks

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You answered the question when you mentioned the use of the aftermarket radio. Let me check the Ross-Tech wiki to see what the BG supports.

[@SHtatkus]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I’ve been checking that list on Ross-Tech website so many times, almost memorized it already 😁 By the way, as I recall the next video shows you got the CD one, but what was your original one?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@SHtatkus My original one is was an AQ unit. This has an older software version than your BG module. The issue I had (years ago) was that my steering rack caught fire while driving, so I had it replaced with a random one from a junk yard (with a different part number). This replacement had a different steering angle sensor arrangement (but with VCDS/OBDeleven coding it worked). I then selected the CD module (years later) for the steering wheel retrofit to match THAT replacement steering rack. ALL 12 buttons work in my car with the steering wheel.

[@jahndolo]

Great video. Need some help. Getting stabilization control activated, red steering light on though steering is ok, and brake servo defective. Any guidance?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Has ANYTHING been physically replaced on that vehicle ?

[@jahndolo]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Sorry, probably should add more context. This errors occured after swapping to the Golf 6r cluster. My previous cluster from an R32 had no issues - even when i return it back, those errors disappear.

[@golflive1863]

wher i can get a capol

[@Steeeewie]

I’m in the process of doing the same swap right now. But I can’t get the newer NEC cluster in to service mode. And every video I’ve been looking at for help has the cluster taken apart for some janky modification internally to the circuit board. Did you have to do this mod as well? I have SVCI 2019 and new transponders. I appreciate any help :-)

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes. I have the SVCI 2018, and the janky modification you see online is the method that you would have to use to get the process "started". I used a "clip" to connect directly to the 8 pins of the 24C64 chip so as not to have to desolder anything. You HAVE TO pull the instrument cluster apart to read the contents of the EEPROM to your PC. Save a backup on your hard drive. Then you would simply "delete" the storage blocks that contain the immobilizer info, then flash that modified state to your cluster. You can then put the cluster together, and reinstall it in the car (I suggest leaving it disassembled until you verify all is working and the car starts and runs) with the 32-pin pigtail harness. You would then actually use SVCI at this point to electronically place the cluster in Service Mode to do the actual process you see in those videos. When you load the original BIN file that you would have backed up, you would see the donor PIN and all that information in which you would selectively overwrite, then finish the process by adding the new key(s)/transponder pills. Exit Service Mode, and the cluster boots as normal. Once all works and the car starts and stays running, you can then put the cluster back together and pat yourself on the back. Edit: I will be doing a video on how to do the initial process (using the clip) in a bit when I get another cluster to pull apart shortly.

[@Steeeewie]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Thank you so much for that elaborate and very kind answer! I appreciate it. You don’t realize how much this helps. I found this video about a year ago when I started thinking about doing this swap for my EOS and ordered the SVCI because if it. Most people wouldn’t go through such lengths to help strangers online. Kudos to you! I googled this clip and found, with the help of my brother, that it’s pretty much the same thing as doing a modification on computer graphics card and motherboards, which means that my local electronic warehouse should have something like it. You make it easy to understand what’s needed. Looking forward to the video! With regards from a cold Sweden, Thank you!!

[@bobtomica9614]

How to swap with Golf GTI to MK3?

[@roybamford8698]

Hi mate I have a question for you I have a mk5 golf gti I have bought some scirocco mk3 2.0 tsi clocks - cluster it’s from a 2016 model I have been told because it as geko write on one of the tags on the back of the clock that it won’t work on the mk5 have you come across this great content and any help would be great 😊

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'm currently doing some alternator work on my car at the moment. I'll respond to you later today. The process for the scirocco TSI clock is exactly the same. Once the 32pins are the same, then the process is the same. Can you please place the part number of the MK3 clock you have, so I can look it up online when I get to a PC? I'm currently using my phone at the moment.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'm still waiting on your part number

[@MrSavageJedi]

I want to change my needle LEDs do I need to solder them?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

If you need to change the actual bulbs, you would have to de-solder the OEM ones and solder the replacement ones. If you just want to change the actual needles from Blue to Red (or vice versa), you would just swap the needles themselves and not trouble the already White LEDs. If you need BLUE needles, you can get them from the Golf-R or VR6 R32 models. If you need Red needles, you would get those from the GTI.

[@VwDaD1988]

Hey eM have you had any luck programming keys for the mkv’s without spending crazy money? I bought rfid chips from Amazon but I was unsuccessful getting them to program in the transponder box tool. Do you know any websites that sell rfid chips for th mkv’s that aren’t junk and work other than having to go to the dealer?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, I used a cloned copy of AVDI to do it. I had bought the 433MHz Megamos ID48 pill for $8 on eBay. I'll look for a link to it.

[@VwDaD1988]

@@MatthewTaylor3 ok so I found the svdi on AliExpress but does It matter if It ships from Poland or China? Did you get yours from the U.S? Just wanna make sure I buy one that’s gonna work.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@VwDaD1988 I didn't get mine from the United States. I realized mine came from China. It shouldn't matter where it came from, once it is at least the "2018" version. Since you are looking at this in 2021, you might as well buy the 2019 model (for whatever new features and being able to do favours for friends with newer models). It surprisingly didn't take a long time to ship to Florida. The device will pay for itself if you use it to help out your friends or potential customers for a decent fee. I reset a failed module on 2 BMWs that wouldn't start and made back my money.

[@SHtatkus]

I believe you are the same guy who posted some info on obdeleven forums regarding mk5 needle sweep some time ago. Long story short - I’ve installed 2005 gti cluster on my 2009 2.5 jetta, immo data was easy with avdi/fvdi chinese clone, but I’m not able to write edited eeprom using the software to achieve needle sweep. It goes back to original after writing and reseting the cluster. Everything was done through obd port in car, not on bench. Still waiting for the usb clip programmer to try writing directly to the chip, do you think it will work this way? Maybe 24c32 is just not programmable? Any input is appreciated, thanks

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'm the same person from the OBDeleven forum. You WILL need to use the USB clip programmer in your case to get it to work. ALL VAG 24c32 and 24c64 clusters support it. If you didn't want to use the programmer, you would have to use a tool called VDOeditor to help you out. If you send me the BIN file for your existing cluster, I can see if my paid copy of VDOeditor can help you

[@SHtatkus]

Thanks for quick reply, I’ll wait for the programmer and see what happens. Heard about VDOeditor, isn’t it only for newer white/color clusters?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@SHtatkus You are correct about the VDOeditor being for the newer white/color clusters. You shouldn't need the programmer since you have the chinese FVDI clone (assuming you backed up your BIN file. Did you use that famous Russian Excel spreadsheet that states what addresses to edit for your cluster? You would only need the programmer to restore the backup if something when wrong.

[@SHtatkus]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I’ve checked that spreadsheet, edited my BIN file, tried to write it to my cluster using FVDI and after reading eeprom again it stays as original one. That’s why I’m thinking to use clip and programmer directly on the chip

[@davtsik1]

Blue dashboard cannot needle sweep.

[@jsull5393]

I can’t seem to read the immo in my caddy. I want to fit touran cluster and I have managed to boot read the immo on that by reading the eeprom dump file with Carprog and writing a dump file with svci 2020 then writing back with Carprog. It just won’t boot my original caddy cluster.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I've noticed the same thing with the "lowline" clusters in the Golf and Polo series as well. The Caddy is also considered a lowline model as well. You can tell just by looking at the fonts on the MFD I don't have a solution for your case at the moment. I'll try to get a donor vehicle and cluster tomorrow to experiment with

[@mrlakay3074]

My cluster was stolen out of my G5 GTi I now bought another cluster but my car model is 2009 and the cluster is from a 2007, will the cluster work on my car or not?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, the cluster will work just the same.

[@CTPGarage]

Hi. Do u have video retrofiting your radio unit?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I don't, but I should be able to record one this weekend, and reply to you with the link.

[@CTPGarage]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Thanks a lot sir. That video will help alot off people.

[@cjdoc77]

Can you get all the immobilizer info from the car? I’m looking to pickup an extra ecu for a a motor swap. Do you IG?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, using a cloned copy of AVDI, I can get the immobilizer information from the existing instrument cluster (which would match that of the existing ECU that is in the car. The new cluster would have to be placed into Service Mode to enter the original immobilizer information to it. If you are doing an ECU swap (and not an instrument swap) then you don't need a new key. If you are just swapping a new ECU for another engine to the car, you would need to know the PIN, MAC, CS, Power Class, and VIN from the donor vehicle. This is easy to get if the donor vehicle is still in one piece (via a tool like AVDI). If the ECU was already removed, then you will need to do this "on the bench" where you would dump the EEPROM contents to a file to be read by suitable software. I've never gotten the immobilizer delete feature to work in AVDI. I don't have an instagram account, but I'll be creating one to post here. The MED9 and MED9.1 ECUs dump easily on the bench, but MED17.x.x needs to be placed in BOOT mode before you can access the tricore memory. This requires opening the metal casing of the ECU, and temporarily attaching some resistors.

[@kelvincheong9234]

Hello sir, I have a Scirocco cluster, but lost all keys. My understanding is I need SVCI to get those data before remove the old cluster, and then restore after install the new cluster? Can you explain more how to do this? And how to re pair my existing keys? Thanks!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'll respond to you shortly. If you lost your keys, you don't need a new cluster. You only need AVDI or the tool you mentioned to place your cluster in SERVICE MODE, so you can add a new key to it. If you were actually changing your cluster, then you would go with the full set of steps you mentioned. I'll respond shortly after you clarify.

[@kelvincheong9234]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I am going to upgrade the cluster.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@kelvincheong9234 You are going to need to use the tool you mentioned to READ the PIN, MAC, CS, and power level from your existing cluster or ECU (as they currently match) by placing it is Service Mode). This is initiated by taking your stock one apart (since you have no keys) and reading the EEPROM chip using a programmer, saving this as a BIN file to your computer. You would then use an editor to clear the immobilizer info, then WRITE/FLASH that file back to your stock cluster. You would then partially asemble and attach to your car. You would then use SVCI/AVDI to place the cluser in Service Mode in order to note the items to be transferred to you new cluster (since you say you don't have your keys). You would do the above steps with the replacement cluster, but this time you would WRITE the 4 above mentoned fields to the new one. Before exiting Service Mode, you would simply ADD a new key so you can start the car. Your old keys would be invalid as they are paired with your stock cluster, and can only be written to once.

[@nicholasmosupi2313]

Is it possible to fit golf 5 gti cluster onto mk6 gti dash, want to attempt to fit golf 5 gti engine BWA onto my golf 6,but mechanic said it would be easier to move the engine with its ECU and cluster

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The short answer is YES, once you move over the factory wiring harness (that is going to be a tedious process). What is going to be an issue is the MK6 steering wheel control buttons will no longer control the MK5 GTI instrument cluster as it would use the newer BAP protocol, while the MK5 cluster uses the older DDP protocol. What may also be an issue is the MK6 ABS unit would lose its coding, so you would have to back that up first using something like VCDS, OBDeleven, etc. Also note that the BWA ECU does not measure and display BOOST pressure or Oil temperature for display in the instrument cluster or Radio if you use something like P3 Car, PolarFIS, or Kufatec, for displaying current engine data. Since you are going through all this trouble, it means you are trying to move from a stock 1.4L engine to the 2.0T for performance. Don't forget to upgrade both brakes and suspension to match this increase. You might as well change the timing belt on the BWA now that you have it out of the car, and the cam follower, as well as the thermostat under the intake manifold since this is the time you have easy access. To do this hassle, means you want a race car, so you might as well upgrade the fuel pressure relief valve to a higher bar rating, and do at least Audi S3 injectors, and the Autotech fuel pump upgrade for more smiles. At this point, the car is ready for a tune after you have broken your wallet on a K04-0064 turbocharger upgrade 🤣 Please take photos and videos of your swap when done.

[@nicholasmosupi2313]

Thank you very much for the information, I have a golf 6 GTi CCZ and the engine has been very terrible, I have given up on it, I managed to buy a crashed golf 5 gti, thank you, I have changed the Timing chain, timing belt and tensioner, water pump, thermostat and housing, as well as the cam follower, just waiting to do the engine swap I will give update when complete

[@frijus100]

can you tell me what info you from old cluster and put innew cluster.i try but program still notwork.i program chip to clester but when i put in car immo active cant start car

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Read immobilizer information (from your original cluster), and write ONLY the VIN, PIN ,CS, MAC and Power class

[@MatthewTaylor3]

It is very important that you also understand that pairing the new instrument cluster requires you to pair a VIRGIN key (blank transponder pill) if you are using the ID-48. The physical key (transponder chip) is bound to the cluster that it was originally bound to. If you are putting a MK6 cluster in your MK5 car (for example), your MK5 key is no longer valid, and a new one (blank Megamos ID-48 pill/chip) would have to be paired to the MK6 cluster so that it now works in your MK5 car. At NO time, should you delete any (old) keys until you can get the car started and running like normal.

[@frijus100]

@@MatthewTaylor3 MAC need take from cluster or ecu i see is different

[@frijus100]

@@MatthewTaylor3 eeprom no need write back original

[@frijus100]

@@MatthewTaylor3 how to be paired chip?add one more key

[@jaredneedell7006]

I have a mk5 2009 jetta and bought the svci 2019 software which is still coming in the mail. I ordered a tiguan cluster to have a working case. I saw you mentioned recommending a passat cluster instead of a golf r/gti one. Do you have a part number that would be the best to purchase, I'd want MPH.

[@jaredneedell7006]

Also I'm curious does your mk5 gti have cruise control? these newer mfds show speed set with cruise on. What behavior are you seeing with that?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The cluster case/housing I had recommended was the MK6 Jetta one as the bolt up is the same as my MK5 Golf. For the MK6 series, the Jetta and Golf have 2 different dashboards. Since I have a 2008 Golf GTI, I'd need the physical parts from a MK6 Jetta to have them bolt up natively (although I'd be using the MK6 Golf-R/Golf GTI internal electronics for the cluster. Now what I said about the Passat cluster was that I would have bought that instead for the colored display in the middle if I had to do it all over again, and I realized that the process for swapping everything was so easy. The Tiguan cluster is also really nice too. You can buy the faceplate by itself so you only see MPH. Let me look at those part numbers and get back to you in short order.

[@jaredneedell7006]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Thanks, so it turns out the tiguan cluster wont work since it has electronic parking brake and uses different fuel sensors. I actually just cancelled that order. I decided to order the SCIROCCO MK3 2.0 Petrol cluster which seems to be the closest match. I'm also curious do you get cruise control data on your screen like the newer VW? Like what speed you have your cruise control set to? ps - I Sent you a message via google chat using the email you have listed in the about section if it's easier to chat there.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@jaredneedell7006 Yes, I did retrofit cruise control in my MK5 GTI years ago. Mine doesn't show the speed that is set. It only shows the fact that the cruise control is working, and the current vehicle speed digitally. It doesn't show what the cruise control is actually SET at. For me, I just mentally remember the digital speed readout when I activate the cruise control. I then know that it will add or subtract 5km/h for every second I keep the PLUS or MINUS button held on the cruise control stalk and it would give me updated SET speed. My car responds quickly, so I just look at the current vehicle speed most of the time to know what the SET speed actually is.

[@jaredneedell7006]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Did you ever swap to the SCIROCCO cluster as you mentioned in the video or still using the Golf GTI/R cluster?

[@ErNisLT_TO]

Hey so tried also to change mine old mk5 cluster to new one from golf 6. I copied all information from my old one cluster to new one except power class idk why i was not able to change it. I added new key with new id48 chip but nothing. I can't start my car, because cluster shows immo active. Any ideas what can be wrong here? I used older fvdi 2014. Also it show wrong outside temperature🤷‍♂️

[@MatthewTaylor3]

You need to copy, POWER CLASS, MAC, PIN, VIN. When you save this from your MK5 cluster to the MK6 one, you would need to ADD A NEW KEY (and burn a new transponder). Your original MK5 key (transponder pill) will no longer work, as it belongs to your old cluster. You need to buy a new ID48 Megamos transponder, and pair it. You already have the right FVDI to do this task.

[@ErNisLT_TO]

@@MatthewTaylor3 i copied VIN, CS, MAC, SERIAL. But it not let me to change power class. I have new id48, i added them to my new cluster but when i try to turn on ignition it show immo active.

[@ErNisLT_TO]

@@MatthewTaylor3 maybe the problem is that i can't change my power class?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@ErNisLT_TO you need to also be able to charge the Power Class as well. You would need to borrow a newer copy of the software and cable to try this again

[@ErNisLT_TO]

@@MatthewTaylor3 oh so that can be my problem. Idk who can have it.. maybe it is posibble to change power class in another way?

[@kalebmorris7775]

Hey buddy! Anyway I can contact you?

[@taulantlelaj6431]

Hello. i did the same 3d color job. the problem I have is that the nivelo fuel warning light comes on before it goes into reserve. can you give me some advice how to fix this problem? thanks

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I used a tool called VDOeditor to fix this via EEPROM. I just used it to large-scale the fuel gauge for a 52 litre tank

[@MatthewTaylor3]

If you send me your BIN file, I can edit it and send it to you if you tell me the size tank that is actually in your car.

[@taulantlelaj6431]

@@MatthewTaylor3 the car and there golf 6 2.0 tdi 110hp i think it is 53litres. x the file I have to ask a friend who gave me a hand

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@taulantlelaj6431 You have a 55 Liter tank. Your stock gauge can only read up to 52 Liters as the additional 3 liters is in the neck of the tank. You would need to provide the part number for your stock instrument cluster and the new one when sending the BIN file. VDOeditor makes an easy job of resolving the issue.

[@zouhairvw9929]

@@MatthewTaylor3 hello . Please I wanna do same thing and I wanna know where can I find that cluster cable ..? Thank you .

[@tayfun.mehmed]

Hello, if i change the cluster directly and just copy the immo settings from the old one will it work without problems? I think my abs is okay because the car is 2007model. Please help me i cant find someone to do this job in my country.. :((

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Hello. Your ABS unit WILL reset itselt and lose all coding whenever you connect another ECU or instrument cluster, so make a note of your existing coding to restore later as it WILL be lost. You can’t just copy the raw immo settings to the new cluster as they are different EEPROM and software version. You would transfer the information like the: MAC, Power Class, CS, and VIN. The serial number being a string of zeroes isn't an issue, and can be left that way. You will need a new key fob/transponder pill/ ID-48 pill as your existing one is permenently "married" to your stock instrument cluster. If you got a donor key that came with your new cluster, that can work too. You would just need to swap the key blade to work in your ignition, glove box and driver door.

[@tayfun.mehmed]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Thanks for the help! How can i transfer the MAC, Power Class, CS and VIN to the new one? I think to go local car-key service for the immo but can they do the same job with their equipment im not sure. :/

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@tayfun.mehmed I used a ph0ny copy of AVDI to do it. You should be able to do it with tools like ODIS. The most trickly part is just getting the new cluster into service mode. I need to redo the video, so the process is more clear.

[@tayfun.mehmed]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Okay. thanks for the help man, there is a lot of things to do i even dont have enough time, ill be search a good car-electronics service again i hope to find one..

[@tayfun.mehmed]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Hello again, i find a guy on car-key service and he said they can do it. Just i need help with some questions, is all the clusters works or i need to find with a specific part number? And this 36 to 32pin cable is same like from the passat or not because i only find for passat b6.

[@dizelas8890]

Hello can you tell me name of software you use ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

It is a copy of AVDI called "SVCI 2018"

[@dizelas8890]

@@MatthewTaylor3 but work normaly no problem ?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@dizelas8890 yes, it works perfectly with no issues.

[@dizelas8890]

@@MatthewTaylor3 ok thanks

[@sebhall9269]

Which function of the SVCI did you use to program the new transponders?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

After opening the application and selecting either AUDI,VW,SEAT,Skoda, etc: I selected "Special Functions", then "CAN instruments". Once connected to the car, it should automatically identify the instrument cluster type (so you wouldn't have to make a selection here). You would then click "Load config dump" and select the original EEPROM that you backed up from the donor cluster. You then click "Enter Service Mode by EEPROM dump". The cluster reboots and may show a blank screen this is normal. You then click "READ Conf Data", "Read Mileage",Read Immo data". You can then update the information that you have noted before. SAVE that to the cluster (but do NOT reboot). You can then add the transponder at this point, and reboot (exit service mode) to start the car. Note these steps require you to have made a backup of the cluster, and have another file of the same donor cluster with the immobilizer portion "FF'd" out.

[@sebhall9269]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Did you ever have an issue where Abrites would say 'Can't connect to immobiliser' when it was connected to the car via OBD2? My version doesn't connect to my car or recognise anything

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@sebhall9269 no. I had no issues. The version of the software I used was the 2018 model. Did you do the initial READ and edit of the immobiliser outside of the vehicle?

[@sebhall9269]

@@MatthewTaylor3 mines the 2019 version. It initially worked when I read my immo data from current Mk5 cluster in the car. But when I tried it again it wouldn't connect and won't connect to new cluster either. I did do the modification to EEPROM and wrote it back to cluster. Will try reinstalling Abrites software tomorrow.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@sebhall9269 Your suggestion to fully uninstall, and reinstall the software would have been my next suggestion. My recommendation is to install this on a burner laptop with NO antiviral tool installed and with BOTH Windows Defender and the Firewall disabled. The software will be flagged as malware, and as such files will be blocked or deleted at random. I have an old HP Stream netbook that I use for this reason.

[@sofianemeryoul8128]

How to turn on the instrument Mk6 with power supply, what pin I should be use to turn the instrument ON ✅

[@MatthewTaylor3]

I'll post a link to the diagram I've been using shortly

[@MatthewTaylor3]

mhhauto.com/Thread-need-pinout-cluster-MK6-golf This page should help you.

[@sofianemeryoul8128]

Thank you so much my friend ☺️

[@sofianemeryoul8128]

My friend do you know how to turn on the Needles staging of the instrument cluster Mk6 2010 "5K0 920 870 F " eeprom 2432, please can you help me with that?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@sofianemeryoul8128 if you can email me your EEPROM, I can do it with VDOeditor, then email it back to you

[@sebhall9269]

Did you need new transponders in your keys?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Yes, a new transponder was needed. You CAN'T rewrite the existing ones.

[@sebhall9269]

@@MatthewTaylor3 At the start of the video you say you already deleted the old immo data from the Mk6 cluster, did you have a key for the used cluster you installed? Or can you access service mode on the cluster without it?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@sebhall9269 I did not have a donor key for the cluster I installed. I had disassembled the cluster, and used a "clip" to read the contents of the EEPROM with a programmer to my laptop, remove the immobiliser portion from the specific address, then write the modified version back to the EEPROM chip. I could then place the cluster in the car, and use AVDI or a similar tool to place it in Service Mode to transfer over the OLD data and add a new key/blank transponder pill. To the best of my knowledge, you can't enter Service Mode without doing some trickery to the EEPROM first since in our case, the ECU and donor instrument cluster weren't initially paired together. If one had a paired donor key with the cluster then entering service mode would be easy at the click of a button.

[@sebhall9269]

@@MatthewTaylor3 I'm going to have to do the same procedure then. I've bought a Scirocco cluster with no key to put into my Mk5. I'm aware of the clip you used to read the EEPROM so I'll just do that and buy a copy of FVDI.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@sebhall9269 Yes, you will have to do the same process. Are you able to post the part number for your cluster so I can determine if I want to swap to that one as well ?

[@okan-34]

Hey bro can I get your info

[@MatthewTaylor3]

kougar89 gmail com

[@DevFTW]

How much did it cost?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

The Golf-R clock costed me $US 230. and the 2010 Jetta clock costed me $US 40. If I had to do it all over again, I would have bought a colored B7/B8 Passat clock, and placed it in the MK6 Jetta faceplate, so that it bolts seamlessly to the MK5 dashboard.

[@MatthewTaylor3]

As for the cloned copy of AVDI, this was about $280 on eBay, then I just needed to buy a ID-48 immobilizer pill/transponder for $5

[@DevFTW]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Honestly, I'd love to learn what these parts do exactly(purpose of them) and what can be the cheapest price to get such upgrade?

[@DevFTW]

@@MatthewTaylor3 Could you post the links of the items?

[@MatthewTaylor3]

@@DevFTW I'll post in short order

[@jessicacastelo716]

In the start of video you showed the GTI CLUSTER, and in the final of video you was installing other.... Pufff

[@MatthewTaylor3]

What happened is that it is the same MK6 Golf R cluster as shown in the beginning if the video. The MK5 dashboard requires a MK6 Jetta cluster faceplate for them to mate together and have an OEM look.

[@rusav81]

Better the old instruments

[@edgargonzalez5771]

Creo que no te salió bien traes muchos testigos prendidos, y aparte no enseñaste lo importante la programación.. Mal video

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Agradezco tu comentario. Lo interesante es que dos personas completaron la programación con éxito después de ver mi video.