MK7 Golf R with APR Stage 2 hits the dyno

[@COMotorsports]

We're back on track and we have lots of neat content coming. Until then we're adding this one to the library to share the data.

[@zacshipp9402]

Good Stuff. Would love to see a Mk7 R IE Stg 2 on the dyno.

[@OhBoyPantz]

I'm so excited to see that 2.5 turbo run on the dyno

[@Elmospiece]

Couldn’t agree more. Putting together a fully built 07K right now and been waiting to see this car hit the dyno.

[@OhBoyPantz]

@@Elmospiece I have an 07k in my golf too, and I've been contemplating turboing it, but I know that gets pretty expensive

[@sebfullick5011]

I'm not a VAG fan but the content on this channel is good and I love the zero BS approach

[@COMotorsports]

Much appreciated. 👍

[@dorkultra]

this never gets old, love seeing mk7 Rs hit the dyno

[@johnwjeromejr]

Very interesting as I have a MK7 Golf R, APR Stage 2 (installed in 2017 before Stage 2 was discontinued) with supporting mods including APR intercooler, tuned for 93 octane gas. Per the APR website, WHP is 354 and WTQ is 379. Crank HP is 387 and crank TQ is 409. These numbers are consistent with the dyno results shown by another channel. APR is known for its reliability of its advertised numbers.

[@COMotorsports]

We've been an APR dealer for 15+ years. Pretty much always the claimed numbers are backed in the real world testing we've done.

[@joshntech]

I swear the moment I start research, you guys come out with a video 😆

[@COMotorsports]

Yaay!

[@MisterWannabee]

Subscribed! Thanks for another good video. Yeah, we're at the end of the stage 2 era unfortunately. I'm APR stage 1 right now and although many tuners still offer Stage 2 software and downpipes, having to deal with emissions complications doesn't seem worth it. So, I am waiting eagerly for more info and data and reviews of the new APR DTR6054 and will also consider something like EQT's standard vortex with proper fueling. My car is a manual and I typically drive one gear "too low" so I'm thinking some loss of low end might not hurt me. Hungry for more info!

[@silentvalue]

Been on apr software on my mk7 gti since june 2017. Car has been fbo stg 2 (with apr intercooler) for a few years with zero issues. Threw the sb stg 3 clutch in and it's good. I have the garrett 2260 waiting to go in, and will be switching to ie out of necessity. Should be a good jump, but i've been pretty satisfied with apr.

[@COMotorsports]

I have no doubt. APR makes a great product. Infact some of the best period. The are a bit on the side of caution when it comes to tuning but their numbers typically always produce what they claim which says a lot compared to a lot of other companies.

[@8gti9]

Yes! More mk7's!

[@IBOO57]

I just stumbled across your channel and love your straight to the point approach. What would you expect for a 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile for a stage 2 R?

[@COMotorsports]

I have no data so no clue sorry.

[@jeanfrancoismenard705]

do you guys know what happened about APR tune for Golf R mk6 stg2 + and stg3 with turbo upgraded. it was discontinued, and then couple time ago you see those tune are available outside of USA. So are APR dealer can put thoses tune here in Canada in R mk6 ? I heard yes then no then IDK. Could you give us an answer please. i want little bit more than IE stg2 pro on my R mk6, i run the intake manifold on 94 octane fuel with all th bolt on and it work prety nicely but you know more power is better right !!!

[@COMotorsports]

Yes anywhere outside of USA you can get APR stage 2.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

I second the request for IE tuned content. Probably going with them as a tuner and would love your input.

[@dillonlarose3971]

Cobb accesport, then order a eqt tune

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@@dillonlarose3971 after Cobb's recent stunt, not interested in supporting them. Also, as CO Motorsports here just mentioned, they all make similar power. Once IE releases their flextune for the 19+ IS38 it's a no brainer. Probably will make 400WHP with a single flash.

[@Gosbecol123]

@@MeltingRubberZ28 not making 400whp on these cars without other modifications

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

@@Gosbecol123 IS38, E85, Intercooler, Intake, Downpipe, Clutch

[@Gosbecol123]

you edited your comment to include IS38 afterwards nice try though

[@frias2287]

🔥🔥🔥

[@David8k8]

When you say front mount IC do you mean an upgraded stock location IC, or a true fmic?

[@COMotorsports]

They're all in front. lol. However we typically always use stock location versions for a couple reasons. 1 they're typically rated for more power, 2 they fit great and doesn't require hacking the bumper.

[@lmh2695]

can you do more mk6 jetta videos

[@rudolfopadilla535]

There was apr stage 2 low torque and high torque tunes so would that be a difference.

[@COMotorsports]

You are correct, and I forgot to look at what this was. I'll ask next time I'm talking to the owner. (as we didn't do the work or flash this one)

[@ryanzinck8056]

High torque tune had to get the stage 3 clutch as well they recommended it

[@rudolfopadilla535]

@@ryanzinck8056 no disrespect brother, it's just information that should be shared that's all.

[@Health_fueled]

would love to see a MK7 or mk7.5 R with integrated engineering.

[@slc-ya3534]

Was this high torque or low torque file?

[@Mrnikkisicks]

Love your content! Working on getting my mk1 TT quattro up to par. Stage 2 APR K04-001. Front mount, intake, down pipe, .4 bar fpr. Still has issues in high boost under wot. Any ideas. No boost leaks, but flutteres at wot. Have not changed map sensor, could that be an issue?

[@COMotorsports]

"issues" can be a lot of things. Maybe be more specific of what the issue is.

[@Mrnikkisicks]

I can boost fine 1st-3rd, then 4th and 5th in full boost, it feels like the turbos stops boosting and backs off, then boosts again

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

So, another question. With APRs 6054 release, we've seen their dyno results show that GTIs with the same mods make more power (I want to say on 93 the GTI make right around 400WHP and the R made around 375WHP and that being due to drivetrain loss...my understanding is they now actually have the ability to dyno the R in AWD mode now which is why we're seeing the differences in numbers between the cars). Now, because you unplugged the Haldex and dyno'd this R as FWD only....are those numbers actually inflated compared to if these runs were actually completed on an AWD dyno with the rear wheels driving as well? Thanks!

[@COMotorsports]

The car on the road is driving around in fwd. So put that same car on a linked AWD dyno (which replicates the road) and the same thing applies...the front wheels are the only ones turning the drum....so it would be minimal IMO.

[@moderngamer4]

Are you guys located in canada?

[@COMotorsports]

Correct

[@jrca379]

i want to see a b6 passat fsi on either unitronic stage 2+ or on stage 2 ie tune would be great thoughts?

[@COMotorsports]

Doesn't need to be a Passat, the engine came in a lot of more common vehicles you can easily compare to.

[@pudermcgavin4462]

Does r not have a dyno mode that it can be set in or was mk8r

[@COMotorsports]

Yes it does, but it is not worth trusting as it can engage. You will find plenty who've had issues solely relying on that... not pleasant.

[@jasybur7151]

Mine did 406 bhp stage 1 in UK got it stage 2 but the dyno was broke

[@COMotorsports]

BHP is different then WHP.

[@jasybur7151]

@@COMotorsports didn't realise that's the way you were measuring it just seen the numbers and thought that's not great had a few beers you see.. have an audi a3 3.2 quattro can't wait to see your r32 build to get some tips your very informative much love from the old country 😀 👍

[@COMotorsports]

@@jasybur7151 appreciate you following along

[@Glipglop886]

APR … in this this economy?

[@zcksswrld]

I’m so confused I thought the r was awd

[@COMotorsports]

This is a magical one

[@underdogproject9373]

I blown 2 1.8tsi with apr stage 3 is20 , craked piston and bend rods ... 😂

[@COMotorsports]

I've seen them fail from pretty much all providers honestly. Not specific to the tuner, from my experience it's related to how the cars driven. Abuse fine, lugging on the engine with that crazy long geared transmission can cause excessive knock which is generally the culprit. Beat on it all day it's fine, drive it up a hill in a high gear, low rpm and it won't be happy.

[@underdogproject9373]

I dont blame the tune i drive the car pretty hard and it pull hard and im 6 speed swap from a mk7 gti...

[@COMotorsports]

@@underdogproject9373 when did they fail?

[@underdogproject9373]

@@COMotorsports both at medium trottle in the highway on a hot days

[@COMotorsports]

@@underdogproject9373 the bent rod is interesting

[@Mackie17]

Is the new turbo designed to work with stock internals?

[@COMotorsports]

Not sure I follow.

[@Mackie17]

@@COMotorsports At the beginning of the video you mentioned apr is ditching stage 2 because theres a new turbo that can make 500 hp. But you also have a video of an engine completely shattering at 550hp lol, so I'm wondering if the power level of the new turbo you mentioned is safe for the stock internals of the mk7r? I'm just trying to figure out what I want to do with mine, and I was thinking stage 2, but I guess that's not going to happen now lol

[@COMotorsports]

@@Mackie17 your not taking in all the info. The one that shattered was due to a sensor problem and likely an operator problem... Which we discuss. There are tons of these making 500whp on stock engine, however with that said APRs turbo won't make that much power.

[@Mackie17]

@@COMotorsports Ah ok, I get you. Thanks I appreciate the reply!

[@COMotorsports]

@@Mackie17 no problem. Good luck with your project.

[@rskyosho]

Ol

[@Symphvfx]

Apr is dog water

[@COMotorsports]

If you see everything we see, you will quickly realize your statement is false.