MKLEO RECLAIMS THE THRONE | Tweek Talks Episode 43

[@fob_ssbu]

スマバトについて話してる部分を翻訳してみました 42:04 - 44:05 Charles: 日本の大会についても話そうか KENが俺たちが弱いって言ってた長い剣を持った男、セフィロスで大活躍してた 何か弁明する事はあるかいTweek？ Pink Fresh: ははは Hazmatt: 責任は全部Tweekにあるから Charles: 俺とTweekでセフィロスは弱いって合意した動画を出したのに全部Tweekのせいにしてるの面白いw トッププレイヤーさん、何か弁明はありますか？ Tweek: 俺が配信をつけた時はソニック使ってた Hazmatt: 笑笑 Charles: なるほどね Pink Fresh: やば、確かに1セットだけソニック使ってたけど Tweek: ちょうどGFやってるときに寝ちゃって、ぎりぎりセフィロス見逃しちゃったw Hazmatt: 朝の5時くらいだったもんね Tweek: ああ、というかなんでそもそも起きてたんだろ まあえーっと 面白い組み合わせだと思った、それと聞いたところセフィロスに結構熱心に取り組んでたらしいからそれも面白いなと思った KENは日本の一大勢力の一人で、トナメによっては手が付けられない これだけ長い間日本で猛威を振るってるのホントすごい キャラに関係なくね、ソニックでもその大会で使ってたセフィロスでも とにかくKEN優勝おめでとう 俺見てたよ、ローカル大会(しのスマ?)とその大会確か両方同時に見てたんだけど、それとサブ配信も見てたよ、Nietonoの試合見てたし、とても活躍してたサムス使いの試合も見てたし、Shutonもとても良いプレイしてたし、DIOのスネークがWFにいて、とてもとても見ていて楽しいスネークだった、とても計算的でとても冷静で、すごいテクニックをたくさん使ってた 見るのが楽しい大会だった あとちなみにこの大会の結果を踏まえてもセフィロスが弱い事には何ら変わりはないから 44:34 - 47:08 Pink Fresh: 全部リアルタイムでは見れなくてアーカイブも少ししか見てないんだけど、KENが新キャラ- 少なくとも俺たちにとっては新しいキャラを大会で使ってるのを見れたのはとても面白かった、俺が覚えてる限りもうずっとスマforの頃からソニック単だったのに それとShutonの安定感にも称賛を送りたい Tweek: ああ Pink Fresh: 彼は何があろうと大会のTop 8〜GFに必ず入ってる めちゃめちゃ層が厚い大会、篝火とかだともしかしたら逃しちゃうかもしれないけど Charles: 一番低くて9位 彼は最低でも9位を取るようなプレイヤー Pink Fresh: 最低でも9位 彼は本当に本当に素晴らしい選手で、俺彼がプレイするのを見るのが大好き ホムヒカが上手く行ってて本当に良かった、最初皆「お前オリマー使いじゃん、なんでホムヒカなんか使ってるの？」って感じだったと思うんだけど、今では「ホムヒカ使いなのに何でオリマー使ってるの？」って感じだからさ笑笑 (周りの反応が)ひっくり返って、彼が安定し続けるのを見れたのは良かった KENはセフィロス試してるみたいだけど、そのまま使い続けるのかどうか見たいね それと何でセフィロス使う事にしたんだろう、セフィロス出してたカードほとんどどれもソニックでも勝てたと思うから− Tweek: ああ Pink Fresh: −何故セフィロスを使う事にしたのか結構気になる、でもセフィロス使ってるの見れて良かった、セフィロス人気なキャラだし それとNietono、彼が大会に出てるのを見るのはいつ見ても楽しい、Nietono Top 5取っててめっちゃ良かった Charles: ああ、俺たち皆Nietono推しだから Hazmatt: ラジオ開始前にNietonoの事話してたんだけど、皆Nietono最高って言ってた、俺たち皆Nietonoの大ファン Tweek: ああ Pink Fresh: 大ファン Hazmatt: 本当に格別の選手 Charles: Xのレジェンドプレイヤー、そして現在でも- Tweek: 俺Shutonのオリマーについて話したかった 俺大会の中でも外でもDabuzやMyranとたくさん対戦してるから対オリマーの経験がかなりある だから俺オリマーを自分で使わずとも、しゅーとんのプレイを見てて(他のオリマー使いとの)判断/選択とかの違いに気付けるくらいオリマーの経験があると思ってる そして対オリマーの経験を積めば積むほど、よりオリマーを使うのに必要なスキルやオリマーがやってる特殊な事とかの凄さに観戦してて気付ける気がする なんというか、俺Shutonのプレイ見るとめっちゃ感動する 俺が戦い慣れてるアメリカのトップオリマー使いたちと違う とにかくShutonがプレイするの見るの楽しかった、とても洗練されてた

[@aa-ix3xk]

いつもありがとうございます

[@シャンシャラ]

ホント助かります。ありがとうございます！

[@ンゴ-m1b]

毎回お疲れ様です！ためになるので助かります！

[@いかぱんだ-e2b]

感謝です！！

[@MrHoneNorm]

いつもありがとう！しかしあんま強くないって評価なの驚きだなぁ

[@char1194]

If MKLeo is the final boss of ultimate, then corrin is a whole new health bar after players finally learnt how to beat his byleth. Man just never runs out of new boss phases goddamn

[@1Yooter]

The moment you celebrate too soon after killing Nameless King's dragon.

[@light_skit]

I’ve watched literally every episode how could I ever forget the heavy lifestyle

[@xand9554]

What episode was that?

[@watasyou3901]

Actually KEN's got inspired by Rizeasu's sephi in Kagaribi and started his own sephi's practice. Also he picks sephi for pac-man played by anyone since he thinks it hard matchup for sonic, and every players he can't beat consistently. In fact this was the first time that Ken beats Nietono in a tourament since ssbu was released.

[@PinkFreshhh]

oh wow thank you for that information

[@Kenzoah]

Charles is unrecognizable lmaooo

[@HiFive99]

Lmao fr dude looks like a whole different person. Who knew he was hiding his chad underneath

[@CarbonMalite]

He's no longer Charles, he is now Carl

[@tpgthe2ndhg608]

plz get the beard back

[@echospace7347]

Omg ew lol he isss why did he shave

[@yuhaye6978]

looks so much better shaved imo

[@Greedude]

Thanks for this Podcast Tweek, helps me focus during schoolwork. Really appreciate it, man. I've been running a business and I find it challenging but manageable, but when it comes to schoolwork I really struggle to focus. This podcast has gotten me through plenty of nights, and I hope you know you're making an impact on a lot of people. Appreciate you, man.

[@awsomesusgus8197]

Yooo Maister replaced Charles for this episode !! You should invite him more !

[@ElChicoBush]

Lmao

[@konflicted1729]

Yoooo lmfao

[@meeermelada2848]

nice to see they got CHUCK NASTY for this episode!

[@adamquenano8563]

“If Leo brings back MetaKnight it’s over”Pink Fresh 2022

[@echospace7347]

I agree

[@sagen06]

I hope not ew

[@sohn7767]

That would be disgusting

[@light_skit]

Leo’s said his one goal was to stop Sparg0

[@Bladieblah]

Where did he say that?

[@No_One_76654]

@@Bladieblahlast episode of Tweek Talks where leo was a guest

[@alexterieur8813]

Yeah he said Spargo better watchout when he's in staircases...

[@Pepsimanv2]

@@alexterieur8813 literally spit out laughing after reading this

[@alexterieur8813]

@@Pepsimanv2😂

[@CopyNPasteComments]

The Heavy Lifestyle episode was incredible, highly recommend to watch if you haven’t

[@Jimbo_Karate]

Literally the ESPN of smash bros.

[@SMABSYSTEMS]

MkLeo: Wins with my 'True Soul Main' Corrin... Me: *Jealousy has entered the chat*

[@sebastiangutierrez7094]

"Tweek or Gavin" is always funny

[@DarkThomy]

First of all, man, really appreciate the QUALITY of the show now ! Very nice to have the vod while they're talking and seeing it. Having the title of the current topic, etc. ...Then, LET'S GO KEN'S SEPHIROTH !!!

[@theimpersonator7086]

Honestly Fox dittos in Ult are among the jankiest things I have ever played personally. Fox falls so fast that he causes weird interactions against himself lmao Anyway, Genesis 8 is going to be super hype. You have: -Leo seeking to nab his 4th Genesis, and becoming the Smash player with the most Genesis wins under his belt -Sparg0 seeking to fulfill his dream and win Genesis -Light trying to settle his “feud” with Mexico -Marss likely busting out the Joker

[@LuisTorres-zs4ki]

Marss lived long enough to see himself become the villain tho lol, he hated Joker so much when Leo used him back then

[@lordtt3984]

Always been a believer in Mars Joker but I don't think it's ready yet. Still looking forward to seeing how he's gonna do though

[@theimpersonator7086]

@@lordtt3984 Eh, even if it not ready, Marss probably should want to get actual bracket experience with the char. Bracket is way different from grind sessions and Friendlies

[@fupalover]

When did he say he was using Joker?

[@theimpersonator7086]

@@fupalover Marss practiced and grinded his Joker a lot during Summit by all accounts. He has been pretty open on it in his stream

[@Chaos-aequilibratum]

at 40:04 the translation is below leo is: "did you really think that you would see me bleed?"

[@tropicalmonix1038]

Awesome podcast! Thank you all for the work and time you put in to doing these. You are appreciated 🙏

[@metalona1216]

I feel like we have M2K to thank for the nurturing of these two prodigies, ontop of his others. He is a top tier coach and im curious how things would have gone differently if he didnt teach Leo and Spargo

[@trevorlorah4992]

And Zero to in smash wii u

[@houstonwelch4253]

@@trevorlorah4992 *Brawl.

[@trevorlorah4992]

@@houstonwelch4253 Uh no. Idk if he played in brawl. But he was dominant in 4

[@houstonwelch4253]

@@trevorlorah4992 that’s what I’m saying. Zero started dominating in Brawl. Then ran the Smash 4 scene until “retirement.” M2K started coaching him back then. They played together/against one another, but he still coached him.

[@MP-qf5gg]

@@trevorlorah4992 Zero played Brawl and he was one of the top players at one point.

[@ADumbKangaroo]

love to see this getting posted right when i check youtube

[@Jero1020]

Im so hyped Tweek is motivated. And at the same time no matter what still my fav player. Genesis gonna be incredible

[@jjtjp2469]

Got to give it to Yei's Meta Knight (& Lucina to an extent). Been enjoying watching him play and I think he'll go far in the future

[@aaronalexanderortizsantos3585]

I think he can’t travel to the US yet, but just wait for whenever he’s able to go to US American tournaments

[@theabner880]

The one thing I would like to mention about MKLeo and his Corrin is that I think everyone can see that he still has a ways to go before he reaches her true potential. You can see mistakes he makes or missed opportunities or less than optimal punish and set ups with the character. It reminds me when he first picked up Joker and he hadn't reached max power levels. I can't wait to see how far he goes with this character. I think at some point in the future we will see the return of Marth though.

[@nickmonks826]

Nice ep. The pink analysis for corrin was great

[@Cashanator]

Charles looking nice in the season 2 merch and the clean up 😳

[@echospace7347]

Hard pass I don’t agree with the shave lmao

[@gagelankin8817]

Title should’ve involved beardless Charles in some way

[@darkinsanity98473]

Sparg0 is so fun to watch. Definitely my favorite player, helps that Cloud is my favorite too and to see someone peform so well with him is amazing lol.

[@alexgarcia6700]

Looooooove! It!!! I was waiting for this. Thanks for making my lunch great!!!! Keep up the good work!!

[@Oetam]

Sephirothken has returned

[@frankcastle5737]

Leo never let the throne. The man still holds the stats that made him GOAT that no other player has even touched!

[@7uxedomask]

Villager ditto’s are actually a blast because villager can pocket basically every single villager move.

[@Qbular]

I just wanna say that Falco dittos are SUPER fun! And if you’re doing free for all’s with everyone falco it’s crazy af

[@alexterieur8813]

So impressive how leo can perform with that many characters

[@emoryfrutos78]

This was literally uploaded during my watching of ep.42

[@morgydee]

Can I get a document on dash shield speed for most characters

[@TheRealLiamHugh]

My gosh charles those cheek bones are chiseled af .

[@Royges]

38 minutes inb and not a single mention of Meme (he didn'tdo that well) , I was so happy to see him back and I believe he was a little rusty, I hope he starts going to tournaments again.

[@richieh7476]

Ganondorf definitely fits the true heavy lifestyle at this point imo, dude gets edgeguarded for free, both his own recovery moves can kill him/lose him the game, also he kills at 40%

[@phenomenonnarutokun]

Reclaims the throne? Man’s never lost it

[@jonteguy]

I know Nairo doesn't compete anymore but I saw somewhere that he released a MU for Sephiroth and it didn't look that bad.

[@booskidoo9169]

He believes in the character more than most top players.

[@fupalover]

He overrates Sephiroth like everyone else

[@Sancnea]

@@fupalover Unlike most other people, he actually plays the character.

[@thekingbradable]

Idc what his matchup chart is, Sephiroth isn’t good lol.

[@ahgottemggs438]

I think it looked pretty bad. The characters that beat him are ones you're bound to run into in bracket

[@gianz2066]

30:11 Yeah but that's not really how her nair works though, I mean I guess you could Say that her oos options are a bit better in the front. But nair definitely does not only start at the front. At the start it also has a hitbox behind her, maybe it won't hit all small characters but she certainly doesn't need to wait for the front hitbox to move to the back

[@flowgix6427]

I recently saw you controller guide and was wondering if L jump was better than using R? I personally been using R as jump since the game came out, is it worth investing time to adjust myself at using L or its pretty much useless ? Thank you for taking the time to read this if you did, and to anyone that can help ! :)

[@mukinabahtx338]

the concept of the heavy lifestyle transcends to all aspects of life tbh

[@Yardo]

Great talk! But around the 32:05 mark when you guys are talking about needing another top player to play Corrin to see if they’re good, Cosmos already had been playing Corrin and didn’t really do well at all. I honestly think Corrin is like on the lower level of mid tier but just fits Leo’s play style really well.

[@maurice7002]

leo is just good at playing any character bro is crazy

[@ThatSneakman]

Nah, I think that's way too low

[@lokks2130]

Yall are so insistent on downplaying whatever character Leo plays to the ends of the earth. Low MID tier? What?

[@Yardo]

@@ThatSneakman has your opinion on the character changed because of the recent success of the character? Or have you always thought they were better than low mid tier?

[@fromjahwluv]

cosmos playing corrin after the buffs was strictly online. not a good metric of measure at all. as far as i can remember, he only pulled the corrin out offline once against dabuz.

[@Dragonball-sk9qw]

I luv the break down on Leo’s corrin 💯🔥🔥🔥

[@andrebaxter4023]

As a Sephiroth enthusiast since his release, I just want to see a video of Ken's Sephiroth. Can't find it on KZbin. At least not yet.

[@SmashLibrarian]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3O1mYeDeLSfnLc grand finals around the 8:11:08 mark

[@Marhathor]

Here's your KEN's Sephiroth: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJvMl2aentmkbdE 第25回スマバトSP SST｜Shuton (ホムラ/ヒカリ) VS SBI|KEN(セフィロス,ソニック) GF -スマブラSP大阪大会

[@andrebaxter4023]

@@Marhathor , thanks!

[@bonni4493]

I also wish Tweek would stop saying Seph sucks though. It's ok to be frustrated with the character, but to say he sucks is a bit much. Seph doesn't suck at all. He went from crying when Seph got announced, to hating and not playing him anymore. Very frustrating!

[@andrebaxter4023]

@@bonni4493 , bro. I wouldn't worry about it. Every person isn't going to believe in the same character, and that's fine. Watch someone win a major with Sephiroth next. 😉

[@spazemonkey]

Tweek Talk’s host’s a tournament called Tweek TO’s???

[@ohjonny95]

I can't wait for Genesis. So many players are getting close to their absolute peak performance, it'll be insane

[@BOBSUSHI32]

tweek talks tournament would be hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sSynclare]

13:05 i actually agree with this. i play falcon as my hard secondary every game and smash 4 dittos were amazing but ultimate falcon dittos feels just cheesy af tbh lmao. incin dittos are hella fun tho

[@LiorRonen]

Just another episode of Chuck being Nasty

[@washingmashine921]

oh God...smooth Charles

[@IcebergSSBU]

"What the heck" - Hazmatt

[@rjt2335]

charles is now a bigger chad

[@Lerkero]

31:10 - leggo void

[@fna5360]

Void is the dude that stares at the mirror like that all the time

[@kaotic_9718]

Bro lets goo, i was waiting for this I just went on break

[@smugaladdin8372]

Saw Charles without the beard and thought, "who's the guest"

[@Kenzoah]

Wow watching that incin death off the stage hurt my heart for skyjay 😭 just lose in 3 interactions

[@kyurei4478]

Where the heck is Leo going to find a place to put this enormous dolphin tho ?

[@sSynclare]

charles before shaving: looks 32 charles after shaving: looks 17

[@gordonschmidt7309]

PT dittos are uncommon but they're always really fun

[@igotthemunchies7292]

When did he lose it? Nobody is on his level

[@austinroccaro2219]

Facts.

[@whaloob]

The Diddy ditto is the best ditto highkey tho

[@bretrawlings6294]

Wednesdays going from least fav day of the week to top 2 free

[@finsfan13929]

Sounds like the Heavy life style is a heavy weight *grappler*

[@michaelcarli]

God I love the pod

[@fna5360]

Daddy? Wait... I mean.... Charles? Charles kinda cute Charles kinda clean Charles lookin like the man of my dreams

[@Lerkero]

Did charles and hazmat switch facial hair? Something aint right

[@SyCaustik]

Sheik dittos go crazy

[@weesumm]

3:12 jummpscare here

[@Felstory]

Seeing Mexico's region growth reminds me of how the Middle East suddenly popped up in the Tekken scene after Korea had been dominating

[@ausp5078]

Charles went Handsome Squidward on us for no reason

[@slukass9631]

Is that a good thing?

[@djestoussaint8968]

CHAD CHARLS

[@ASN_JAY]

No beard and no mustache Charles has to be the weirdest thing I’ve seen

[@Rockleefan3]

What does tweek say there? 15:20

[@calebw8189]

MKLeo never "lost the throne". He got 3rd and 4th playing at his very worst in two consecutive tournaments back to back. There was no time to adapt and learn.

[@bobmarley9181]

Game and watch dittos are fun

[@jcmm99]

Charles doesn't look like Charles without the beard omg

[@CG-Gravy]

Chuck Nasty over here looking good with a beard or with a clean shave.

[@echospace7347]

14:50 the way tweek said “Steve dittos 🥸” and everyone was like stfu😂

[@Happymoron11]

Charles looks great

[@zake64]

36:24 I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Mexico's GDP per capita has been steadily increasing since the Sm4sh days (save for 2020 ofc). This may have helped Mexicans' ability to fund, host, advertise, and attend tournaments.

[@thelocs5935]

41:25 you guys need to get tweek as a guest

[@Holeinshoo]

The DDDitto is my favorite

[@SuperJeremy40]

Inceniroar with a little more mobility? Top20

[@jorgefeliciano8183]

why dafuq is charles looking soo good?!

[@DemonTwink69]

Shaved Charles is a CHAD

[@10cesc4.]

Charles might need an OnlyFans now with that clean look. But in all seriousness, it was great to see Leo shock everyone with a character all the corrin mains neglected.

[@SoapChill]

To the surprise of no one 🤣

[@lucasargandona4658]

Korean looks like a completely different person 🤣

[@jankounchained4211]

Great points on Wario

[@zoerosedunk4548]

Corrin enjoyers rise up

[@JB_CY]

The corn dog came out

[@light_skit]

Charles face is throwing me off big time

[@diiamond7861]

The reason ganon doesnt fit the lifestyle is because he will always be a falcon clone. Every other heavy has a signature playstyle, ganon does not.

[@DurzoGuile]

Personally I think ultimate set him more apart from being just a Falcon clone, but you do have a very good point

[@Bladieblah]

If you think Ganon has the same playstyle as Falcon you don't get the game. That has been the case since his first iteration but especially from Brawl onward

[@2000Doriyas]

He literally can’t play like Falcon, his moves serve different functions

[@nemil238]

Charles looks great recently

[@ChiefBeef999]

No beard Charles go dummy!!

[@dubonkies]

I was NOT prepared for beardless Chuck

[@Millyviews]

Chad Charles