MLM2PRO vs. R10 vs. SC4: Which is the BEST Budget Golf Simulator?

[@npdevito1]

Watched a bunch of your videos this weekend to upgrade my Optishot (which I have loved) . Thanks for the thorough comments and honesty. Well done!

[@dub-golf]

Awesome content! The technology is getting so good so fast. My channel started out doing OptiShot 2 reviews because there basically were none on KZbin and now the technology has exploded. Thank you for such great, informative videos. When buying one of these at home sims I always like to do my research and your channel helps!

[@breakingeighty]

Yeah the Optishot 2 was the very first sim I ever reviewed back in like 2014. Crazy how far things have come!

[@drewk9566]

Love it, thanks for putting this out there. Really makes me want to buy the R10

[@CapnBud15]

Best golf tech reviews on KZbin!! Took your advice and got a Precision Pro NX10 rangefinder last year and I’ve had nothing but good things to say about it. Now I’m interested in launch monitor and knew exactly where to come!

[@breakingeighty]

Yeah! Glad to hear you've liked it. Let me know which way youre leaning with the launch monitor!

[@Golf101inc]

Love to go with one of these but space just won’t allow it! I’m going to have to go with the BLP or skytrak.

[@timd1373]

Great video. Is there any future video coming for the optishot galaxy overhead simulator? Would love to hear your opinion.

[@Jakes2hot]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention 3rd party software. To my understanding, for certain devices, they dramatically improve the results and performance of the device. Great comparison though. I’ve been hard up on R10 but since these other two have come out, I’m a bit unsure. This review helped me hone in on what matters for me. R10 it is. Thanks. 👍🏽

[@Mizuno9ab]

Leaning r10 or wave…-I returned the mevo+. I trust that carry is good enough. Mainly wondering if accuracy of spin, aoa, face/ club angle data. Any sense of relative accuracy ? Close enough?

[@terryd89]

I'm using outdoor use only, which is more accurate and won't miss shots since I'll not have special balls? Thanks!

[@jodyschmidt1615]

Ok help me out, space is not an issue for me. I want one to start with one to be able help me inside and out and including to be able to see ball flight. I would like to be able to start learning how to shape shots and dial in on my distances. Knowing this will not be my forever monitor I want to start with something to start learning shot data.

[@tonyabbott-zr3xu]

Solid comparison Sean. There really is no one “best” device and this is a helpful summary of strengths and weaknesses. Thanks.

[@breakingeighty]

Agreed!

[@jackloganbill605]

Launch monitor, or simulator? I am looking for a device (budget) that connects to a projector to serve as a simulator with golf courses....ideas?

[@cookrichardc]

Does using the Titleist RCT balls help with the spin data on the Garmin R10?

[@earlblevins1284]

good stuff

[@dcscimone11]

I am waiting for your review of the Skytrak +. Hopefully you get your hands on one soon.

[@breakingeighty]

Just published written review yesterday! Video should go up in next couple weeks. breakingeighty.com/skytrak-plus-review

[@dcscimone11]

@@breakingeighty Awesome, I will check it out!

[@northseahub]

is e6 free when you buy a rapsodo

[@mako1134]

When are you testing sky track plus That’s the only one I’m waiting for

[@breakingeighty]

Got written review up yesterday! Video to come in a couple weeks: breakingeighty.com/skytrak-plus-review

[@shawnlewis9656]

Hey Sean, loved the video. I have been watching the Rapsodo MLM2Pro for a while now and was considering investing in one, however, I have seen quite a number of review comments regarding problems with connectivity and and the connection being frequently dropped while in use. Did you experienced this, with any of the launch monitors in this video, during your testing?

[@kyleleskiw5644]

Gotta do direct connect with Android, most issues are wifi and iOS related

[@shawnlewis9656]

Thanks Kyle. That doesn't seem too serious then. The Rapsodo can stay on my shortlist.

[@TomStack83]

I have the MLM2PRO with an iPad/iPhone. The issues with connectivity were all fixed after they released the most recent firmware update, atleast for me. I’ve had it since the beginning and getting from then to now, the unit is solid! I use it outdoors as well indoors for my garage sim setup.

[@shawnlewis9656]

Thanks Tom. All feedback is welcome when deciding which product to buy. It's reassuring to hear that you're having success with your MLM2Pro. I'm presuming that it isn't "Geo-locked" like the more expensive Bushnell Launch Pro and the rest of the "Foresight" brands? It seems that outside of the country where you buy a Foresight Launch monitor, the unit won't work due to being "Geo-locked", so no good if your going abroad for a golf holiday!! Foresight told me that it is to do with product support and if you want to travel abroad, they will unlock it for that particular destination - For a Fee!! as if it wasn't expensive enough as it is, plus, if it is working at home, why would you need technical support when you are travelling with it. I don't expect this to be the case with the MLM2PRO but if you happen to know for sure, please drop me a message. I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent here! Thanks again Tom

[@danrasmussen4658]

Great video how is customer support between these simulators

[@breakingeighty]

To be honest, I haven't had enough experience with customer support with any of these companies to be able to give an accurate opinion.

[@garysiegberg1574]

I use a chrome book. Is the MLM2PRO compatible?

[@Power5]

Good high level info for each. I was looking at the garmin. You mention no subscription needed which I like. The rapsodo cutting features without a subscription is criminal. Why do I need a subscription to have the data ported into my computer for e6 golf sim? But back to the garmin. You mention that spin is a bit iffy. I do not really care about the numbers as much as I care about it showing correct ball flights. I have no idea how these interact with e6 golf sim, but if the spin is not accurate, how does e6 translate that into correct ball flights? How does it know draw and slice amount? How can it know the face angle at impact if it is placed behind the golfer. Inside out swing with a closed face will hook way more than an open face with inside out swing.

[@mehdikhaku8521]

@breakingeighty does the SC4 provide any sort of shot shape data? Draw/fade/pull/slice etc?

[@breakingeighty]

Yes, it does!

[@mehdikhaku8521]

​​​@@breakingeighty I'm seeing allot of reviews saying that it doesn't have spin axis so it can't give shot shape? Is this incorrect or has there been a recent update? Also if it does, is it visible on the app? Or only on the e6 software? On the SC app it looks like just straight lines down the range. I don't see any curves etc. Thanks for the quick response! Your videos are great and you just earned another subscriber!

[@ribasenric]

I was going to ask the same thing, since I have read that as well @@mehdikhaku8521

[@garrettgiusto6233]

Does the SC4 provide lateral data, ie.. slice/fade or hook/draw?

[@kamtroxell7898]

It does not currently. I was told they had to choose between calculating backspin or side spin and went with backspin for distance accuracy. I was told by Optishot (they have a deal with SC on their Orion product )support that they are looking into adding side spin in the future

[@nobrien1]

One space consideration that you didn't address was, when hitting indoors, how far from your net do you need to be?

[@RushVoorhisOutdoors]

3:26 he talks about this issue

[@briand6250]

Which is the best one to play sim golf? Or does it all depend on the software?

[@breakingeighty]

The software will definitely provide a different experience regardless. But the MLM2Pro using RPT balls will be the most accurate out of these 3 for simulator use.

[@JeanEstevez]

So the rapsoto can be used outside ? From what i heard is not very accurate if you not using the balls with the dots !! Is this correct

[@Groovethumper69]

@Breakingeighty Have you ever tested the R10 with the Titleist RCT golf balls? I know my spin numbers changed a good bit once I got some, but I'd love to see someone compare the actual spin measured between the R10 and your Bushnell.

[@breakingeighty]

I haven't tested yet, but hope to soon!

[@Groovethumper69]

@@breakingeighty awesome brother! Love the content, can’t wait.😎

[@bogerton5624]

I think the SC300i is the best Budget launch monitor IMO.

[@breakingeighty]

I'd disagree. The SC4 is more accurate, has a better display, and is more versatile and you can get it for only $100 more. Even despite my critiques of the app, if you just use it for metrics and data using the screen, it's a better product.

[@MrHayhor]

Can the sc4 be used with E6 connect?

[@breakingeighty]

Yep! Only downside is that it only has 1 course included for free.

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

Why don’t you show more of the simulation. Not all slow like other videos. But why not edit in shots using the product. ??

[@08scionxd]

Where is the coupon code for the SC4?

[@breakingeighty]

Ah, thanks for asking! Totally forgot to include it. it's b80-SC450

[@08scionxd]

@@breakingeighty thank you!

[@gregharback7698]

Garmin can be found for 450.00 now.

[@everardogolf]

Why not consider the Mevo with these?

[@breakingeighty]

The Mevo is great, but with this one was specifically looking at products that have Simulator capabilities.

[@everardogolf]

@@breakingeighty For curiousity sake then and not caring about sim capabilities, how would it stack up? I mainly use a device outdoors or on a range.

[@breakingeighty]

@@everardogolf I think the Mevo is excellent, and I trust it's accuracy more than some of these as well. The big downsides are that the app feels dated in comparison to Rapsodo/R10, but more importantly is that it doesn't have any lateral data. So you can't tell if you're hitting it straight, slicing etc. But if what you care about most is portability, accuracy and carry - then the Mevo is a great one to consider. I also love the Apple Watch integration, as it makes using it way more convenient.

[@themastermagicians2745]

R10 BEST BANG FOR THE $$$$$

[@fatputtsgolf]

Lol, Mark Cossfield said the app was clean and professional.

[@Jakes2hot]

Which app? He’s reviewed them all.

[@fatputtsgolf]

@@Jakes2hot the swing caddy app. You said it sucks. He said it was very clean, professional and user friendly. IDK, maybe he got paid to say that.

[@candidaprout8441]

The Rapsodo isn't good, the support is terrible.

[@Malikot911]

My Garmin R10 misses so many shots. I noticed whenever I swing too fast, the R10 seems to not capture it. Now, I have to swing slower which is still fun most of the time.

[@GrumpyGolf4]

Subscriptions are a deal breaker to me and probably should be to everyone IMO. Subs charge you money in perpetuity for something that the companies offering them have already developed and are not cost centers for them; in other words, they are A) Residual income/profit centers, and B) a massive re-distribution of wealth from the middle and lower class to the rich. If you want to preserve your wealth, take that $200/ year and put it towards an agressive stock mutual fund that you contribute to every paycheck. In 2 decades you will be retired and laughing your ass off at the Rapsodo/Garmin/SC companies from a golf course in Scotland as you're enjoying the rest of your life of leisure.

[@yannrobert8546]

Yep that s why i will never buy the mln2pro

[@bradyanderson2250]

@GrumpyGolf4 Lol I don’t think you’re qualified to be giving financial advice. You’re also just giving savings advice on a video unrelated. Let’s say someone invested $200 / year for 20 years (none of these products will last 20 years but that’s besides the point), and you averaged 10% returns, that is only ~$9k in profit in 20 years. You’re not retiring and living a life of wealth on 10k bubs lol

[@GrumpyGolf4]

I'll trust the advice of Benjamin Graham (who advocated Dollar Cost Averaging) over you. So piss up a rope

[@drewmill821]

Rapsodo is to be Avoided, the Rapsodo tech support team is a joke. They will ignore you and the many many problems with the product. I strongly advise anyone to not buy this!